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LPAV WC2024 / current results without top-10

Postby pronossstat » Thu May 11, 2023 1:14 pm

UPD: 2024 year's competition results, without final top-10.

top-50:
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Newbies: Vitoria Beatriz (top-10), Kaitlyn Katsaros (#16), Nuria Millan (#30), Lady Ana (#38)
Biggest progress: Alexxa Vice (+77), Yessica Bunny (+87), Julia North (+75), Mih Ninfetinha (+67), Isabella Clark (+34), Eden Ivy (+34), Nela Decker (+27), Natasha Rios (+23), Vicky Sol (+20)
Out from top-10: Brittany Bardot, Jolee Love, Nicole Black
Biggest fall: Silvia Dellai (-16), Linda Sweet (-16), Syren De Mer (-14), Monika Wild (-14), Charlotte Sartre (-13), Alicia Trece (-12)

top-100:
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Newbies: Vivian Lola (#56), Little Chloe (#64), Qweensg (#92)
Biggest progress: Kyra Sex (+142), Kitty Li (+106), Helen Star (+88), Lara De Santis (+62), Larissa Leite (+30)
Out from top-50: Lydia Black, May Thai, Elen Million, Nataly Gold, Crystal Greenvelle, July Sun, Tabitha Poison, NiciXdream, Gabriella Lati, Megan Venturi, Tina Kay, Emily Belle (out from-100 also)

outside top-100:
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Here is a description of what we will have.

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RESULTS OF THE FIRST LP/AV CHAMPIONSHIP

Hi there!
1st of all, sorry for my disappearance, there were some reasons, one of them I was exhausted by the end of the tournament and lost almost all courage. But now I'm back and finally it's time to give some results.
I think, first three rounds (quals, top-100 and top-50) were great, top-10 was not so well planned and next rounds like semis and final were unnecessary in my opinion, because Anna was obvious winner from previous rounds and the community were tired of polls too. I'll try to keep this in mind for the future tournaments (yes, there're plans for them ;) )

So, here we are.
Anna de Ville is a confident winner, Veronica is second, Rebel is 3rd with great chances to improve it in the future, while Brittany and Francys will probably go down in some time.
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WC2023 top-10

A lot of girls from the rest top-50 are retired or on a long break, so I'm sure the results would have been different if the tournament had been held now, not six months ago.
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WC2023 11-50 places

For ranking girls from 51 to 100 places were taken into account not only votes from top-100 round but also from Quals. Votes from top-100 round were multiplied by 2, votes from Quals were multiplied by 1,3 if a group had 3 options for voting, also the "strength" of the group from top-100 round was taken into account – how successful were top-3 girls from this group in the top-50 round. If a girl was seeded for top-100 round (didn't participate in Quals), her top-100 results were multiplied by 3, not 2.
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WC2023 51-100 places

I also pointed out the base rank (from april/may 2023) for each girl - the rank from my so called base rating that I took into account in seeding and grouping.

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Hi all, I’m glad to announce the biggest and deepest LP/AV World Championship in history!

About three years ago I got an idea, inspired by dap-addict DAP record thread, to count scenes and main acts (like Gangbangs / Orgies / DAP/DP/DVP, Piss etc) for each of most popular and productive girls to make some kind of “LP Rating”. And very soon faced the problem with incorrect and unreliable tags. So I decided to review each of these scenes myself: I watched trailers and put information into a Google Sheet, separately for each girl, not only for a scene (for example 6on2 scene has two records in my sheet - for each girl). And since I did this manually I expand the list of acts – like 0% Pussy, Rough, Gagging, different cumshots etc etc (more than 50 of them), even the number of swallowed loads.
I gave each act a score: from biggest ones like DAP/TAP/Piss Drink etc to small ones like just Cum in Mouth or, for example, Face Fuck. It makes a base score for a scene.

Important: in this rating only LP/AV scenes are included. For example PornWorld / BangBros / Private didn't count, as well as many amateur or personal studios (like Brittany Bardot Club or, for example, Eden does, despite they could have great scenes)

But we all know that quantity doesn’t mean everything, and DAP from Anna can cost dozens of DAPs from, for example, many of Russian newbies. And what is more important, DAP from Angel Smalls, the girl who had only a few scenes, worth a lot. And not only DAP, there’re plenty of performer’s traits that could and must influence on the rating. So I evaluated each girl on several parameters - gave them a score from 1 to 7 where 1 is awful, 7 is unique (both are very rare), 2 - bad, 3 - ok, 4 - good, 5 - very good, 6 - excellent.
Some examples: Enthusiasm (Veronica Leal has 7), Active Sex (like twerking sex, Daniela Ortiz has 7), DAP performance (Anna - 7, Angel Smalls - 6, Veronica - 4), Deepthroat, Gagging (Anna - both are 6), Cum Attitude (Selvaggia, Charlotte Sarte - 7), Piss Attitude (Charlotte, Rebel Rhyder - 7, Anna - 6, Veronica - 4), Squirting skills (Brittany - 7), Submissive (Rebel and Kaitlyn Katsaros - 7) etc.

I don't want to bore you with the details - it's just for you to have an idea what is about.

And then to make this rating less subjective, I included a "popularity" aspect – if scene is from all time/year/month list of bestseller, it adds some point - the higher is a scene, the more is contributions.
Bestsellers lists are: all time top-500, each year (2013-2022) - top-100, each month - from top-10 in early years to current top-40.
* Note: I decided to exclude current Russian's studios (mostly NRX) from these lists and make separate list just for them with lesser bonus points, same for American's studios.

After some arithmetic operations I get final score for each girl, what roughly consist of: 50% - performed acts, 25% - girl's performance, 25% - scene popularity.
And that's it - I have an LP Rating.

Sorry for very long description, but it is just the beginning :D :D
This rating would be the basis for the World Championship we are talking about.
The structure of the tournament will be that.
- Total of 200 girls compete
- Top-50 girls from my rating are already in the "Top-100 Round", the other 50 from 150 girls will be chosen by you (this round called "Qualifications")
- pool of 150 girls will be divided into 15 groups with 10 girls in each (the poll's capacity maximum)
- grouping principles: region/country, if there're 20+ girls from one country (Russian, Czech) I tried to group girls by their age / preferred studios / years of activity
- qualification places vary from 1 to 4 for each group, these numbers based on how "strong" are these groups considering my rating

So we will have 15 qualification polls => 50 girls go through and join 50 girls already there

- 10 girls from this hundred are already in the next round.
Not all of them are from my rating's top-10, but from top-15, and they obviously would win their groups (more detailed below, examples are Anna, Veronica, Jolee Love, Arwen etc). I made it to reduce the number of polls and to make them more balanced
- 90 girls divided into 9 groups with the same regional principles of division, but regions are bigger: 2 Czech (active/retired), 2 Russian (active/retired), East Europe, West Europe, South Europe, Latin, USA
- qualification places will vary from 1 to 5
- 30 girls from these groups go to the next "Top-40 Round" where they join 10 girls who are already there
- 4 groups in "Top-40": Czech, Russian, Europe, New World
- two best from each group + 2 best third places go to Final Round of top-10 girls
- maybe I'll make classic final of two girls but I'm not sure there's a sense

So we will have 29-30 polls in total.
The difference from previous polls is a scope, well-defined structure, complex rating as a base and additional statistics I'll give for each girl in each poll.
My rating, which I wrote about above, sets the framework, but who will win is up to you!
Thus we will find not only the winner (I think all of us could predict at least top-2 if not a winner), but many of consecutive "tops" - top-200, top-100, top-40, top-10 - and "regional/country" winners like best Czech or Queen of Europe :D
Personally for me these results are much more interesting than just a final champion. There will never be an easy choice, I promise :D
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Re: !Upcoming LP/AV World Championship! 200 girls, 30 polls

Postby dap-addict » Thu May 11, 2023 5:18 pm

Wow, what a post and what a project! :D :cool:

What to say?
For me it's a bit difficult to vote for Goldie and/or Henessy because they were not DAP-able at all and never even tried to do it. :( :confused: I think at least 1 DAP in 1 position or at least 1 DAPattempt in 2 failed positions is the minimum entry of a porn poll today.
1 DAP in my definition is minimum both dickheads inside for minimum 1min. 1 DAPattempt is both dickheads trying to enter the girls ass, but popping out for various reasons, they try at least in 2 positions for a reasonable time adding up to 30-60 or more seconds.
Anyway, on the other at their time Goldie and Henessy were very popular, thats true. ;)
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Re: !Upcoming LP/AV World Championship! 200 girls, 30 polls

Postby pronossstat » Fri May 12, 2023 12:55 am

dap-addict wrote:Wow, what a post and what a project! :D :cool:

What to say?
For me it's a bit difficult to vote for Goldie and/or Henessy because they were not DAP-able at all and never even tried to do it. :( :confused: I think at least 1 DAP in 1 position or at least 1 DAPattempt in 2 failed positions is the minimum entry of a porn poll today.
1 DAP in my definition is minimum both dickheads inside for minimum 1min. 1 DAPattempt is both dickheads trying to enter the girls ass, but popping out for various reasons, they try at least in 2 positions for a reasonable time adding up to 30-60 or more seconds.
Anyway, on the other at their time Goldie and Henessy were very popular, thats true. ;)

That's why I made Qualify round :D For example, only 13 girls from 40 Russians will pass qualification, so you will definitely find your candidates ;)

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Re: !Upcoming LP/AV World Championship! 200 girls, 30 polls

Postby justinwarren41 » Sun May 14, 2023 4:10 pm

Great idea! So glad you are doing this.

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Re: !Upcoming LP/AV World Championship! 200 girls, 30 polls

Postby Ass_To_Mouth_Repeat » Sun May 14, 2023 5:45 pm

An interesting project! A break-down of how the marks are awarded is essential.

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Re: !Upcoming LP/AV World Championship! 200 girls, 30 polls

Postby GA2 » Sun May 21, 2023 7:19 am

Wow, very impressive project! It might have taken a long time to compile all this information. I just finished voting in all the current polls. I'm curious to see who wins.

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Thu May 25, 2023 3:17 pm

Guys, a couple of news.
First of all, great new for Latina lovers :D I made some correction of mistakes, changed a bit a scheme of next top-100 Round, and get 1 extra place for Latina Region. So I decided to give it to the best between 4th Brazil and 2nd Colombia.
The situation for this place right now is:

Valentina Milan - 16
Larissa Leite - 14
Mih Ninfetinha - 14
Candy Crush - 13
Daniela Garcia - 13


Second, sad news for Belarussian lovers, because that place obviously didn't come out of nowhere. 3rd place from post-Soviet Region is now only in play-offs with 4th from East Europe:

Misha Cross - 19
Freya Dee - 17
Chloe Lamour - 16
Cherry Kiss - 15
Julia Maze - 15


Misha seems like confident winner here, but there's still a time.

And now couple of things we will have after Qualification.
To be honest I worried a bit because of large number of polls and topics - I wasn't sure that it won't be like a I'm spaming forum with unwanted polls or something... But as I can see, people are interested and taking part with pleasure. So, in addition to the top-100 round we will have... a Relegation top-200 Play-offs! :D Because maybe, and surely, some of the girls I take into Qualifying are less popular than the rest ones. My choice was motivated by the regional aspect, to make polls more logical, but for the final top-200 we could depart a bit from this principle.

So we will have 5 Relegation groups with 5 girls with weakest results + 5 girls who were out of Qualification Round in each group.
By now my list of top-200 contenders is:

1. Kira Roller, Stasia Si, Kendra Star, Hot Pearl, Jasmine Waterfall
2. Karolina Geiman, Vivian Grace, Eva Barbie, Sofa Weber, Sasha Paige
3. Nikky Dream, Bambi Bella, Adelle Sabelle, Samantha Joons, Angel Piaff
4. Mila Milan, Anita Bellini, Simony Diamond, Inga Devil, Nomi Melone
5. Lyna Cypher, Alba Lala, Lady Ana, Linda del Sol, Mell Blanco

You can suggest your candidates, but I hasten to say I wouldn't consider girls with less than 10 LP scenes.
Girls from QR who will have to compete for their places in top-200 are obviously not clear now, but I sure each girl with less than 7-8 points will be there. And there will be definitely 7 weakest girls from Russian Group 4 despite their results (they will complete groups 1-2 from the list above).
I think it will be very interesting too, and we will have a chance to vote for girls we couldn't vote earlier :)

P.S. All of this was just for starters. I have a big big surprise for you in what we will have after top-100 round :D First, I expand it to top-50 instead of top-40, but that's not what I'm talking about. This will require a significant increase in the number of polls but it's worth it, I promise, there will be what we probably never had ;) So be patient, the most interesting things are ahead :D

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Wed May 31, 2023 2:28 am

Qualification Round is over, so it's time to sum up the results.

Czech Region

Group 1 winners: Florane Russell, Alexis Crystal, Lady Gang, Vinna Reed (Krystal Kaytlin)
Group 2 winners: Sandra Soul, Nicole Love, Kaira Love, Tabitha Poison
Play-Off (Best 5th): Nela Decker

Relegation top-200 play-off: Claudia Mac, Sandra Zee, Barbie Esm

East Europe Region

Ukraine Group winners: Nikki Hill, Lina Arian, Anita Blanche, Alisia
Alisia won her ticket in the last moment! She scored same votes as Anna Rey, but she's active and higher in base rating.
Post-Soviet Group winners: Gabriella Lati, Venera Maxima
East Europe Group winners: Rebecca Volpetti, Amirah Adara, Cathy Heaven
Play-Off: Freya Dee
Freya won against Sindy Rose, Misha Cross, Julia Maze

Relegation top-200 play-off: Lara Frost, Goldie Baby (both from Russian groups), Lola Bulgari, Madison Lush, Jessi Empera

Russian Region

Group 1 winners: Nataly Gold, Isabella Clark, Sofi Goldfinger
Group 2 winners: Elen Million, Angie Moon, Lola Taylor
Group 3 winners: Crystal Greenvelle, Evelina Darling, Sweetie Plum, Alita Angel
Group 4 winners: Kitty Doll
Play-Off (best two from other places): Francesca DiCaprio, Henessy
Sofi Goldfinger made the most impressive comeback and direct ticket to the top-100 ahead of Henessy. But Henessy took her course in Play-Off, so it's Alexa Flexy and Julia Red who lost from this Sofi's comeback.

Relegation top-200 play-off: Kiara Gold, Bella Grey, Cyber Shot, Anastasia Mistress, Baby Bamby, Loren Strawberry, Lia Lin, Lola Shine, Lara Onyx, Vanessa Vaughn
Many girls from Group 4 weren't obvious candidates, so the will fight for their places in top-200 with others decent contenders.

West an South Europe

Italy Group winners: Moona Snake, Silvia Soprano, Giada Sgh, Jessy Jey
South Europe Group winners: Vicky Sol, Ginebra Bellucci
West Europe Group winners: July Sun, Tina Kay, NiciXdream, Emily Belle
Play-Off: Luna Rival
Luna Rival won against Julie Skyhigh and Polly Pons

Relegation top-200 play-off: Sarah Slave, Bianka Blue

America Region:

USA Group winners: Lauren Phillips, Avery Jane
Brazil Group winners: Natasha Rios, Cris Bathory, Kelly Oliveira
Colombia Group winners: Isabella Uzcategui
Play-Off (4th Brazil vs. 2nd Colombia): Valentina Milan

Relegation top-200 play-off: Luana Honey, Eva Perez, Kyra Sex, Zoe Sparks, Kyaa Chimera

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby justinwarren41 » Fri Jun 02, 2023 2:11 am

Well done sir. And appreciate your flexibility based on feedback too.

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby BobbyC » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:00 am

Wow!! Amazing. Rebel Rhyder seems like a must, I cant remember seeing her in your list. Ill get back to this. Great work thanks, a labour of love?

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Fri Jun 02, 2023 9:47 am

justinwarren41 wrote:Well done sir. And appreciate your flexibility based on feedback too.

When does the next round start up?

Thanks! I hope today we will start top-100 :)

BobbyC wrote:Wow!! Amazing. Rebel Rhyder seems like a must, I cant remember seeing her in your list. Ill get back to this. Great work thanks, a labour of love?

Don't worry, Rebel is coming with top-100 round :)

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Sun Jun 25, 2023 2:57 pm

Thanks to all user for bumping tournament's topics! Let's make quick subtotals here.

5 days left for Top-100 Round

Advance to the Top-50 from Czech and East Europe groups together:

Linda Sweet - 41
Cindy Shine - 38
Rebecca Sharon - 36

Belle Claire - 35
Susan Ayn - 31
Timea Bella - 29
(as best 4th place)
Tabitha Poison - 26
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Florane Russell - 24
Alexis Crystal - 23

Vicky Sol - 22
Kaira Love - 22
Nela Decker - 20
(+2 scenes since voting has started)

Pretty clear and predictable picture here. Four retired legends from one group + 2 top-performers from another group + 1 unclear place, where Tabitha Poison is now taking a lead. Interestingly, Tabitha lost to almost each of her's current opponents in her Qualification group - she was behind Nicole Love, Kaira Love, Sandra Soul and well behind Florane Russel (last two were in another group, but still), and now she's quite confidently ahead all of them, and it looks like only Florane (and maybe Alexis Crystal) can impose a fight on her.
The only one from this two groups who is not from "Czecho-Slovakia" and is somewhere near the top is Vicky Sol.

Advance to the Top-50 from Russian "Young" and "Mature" groups together:

Crystal Greenvelle - 38
Selvaggia - 34
Monika Wild - 30

Stacy Bloom - 28 (+3 positions since last subtotals)
Elen Million - 27
Monika Fox - 26 (+3 positions)
Nataly Gold - 26 (as best 4th place, -3 positions)
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Evelina Darling - 25 (-1 position)
Alita Angel - 25 (-1 position)
Isabella Clark - 24 (+2 positions)
Henessy - 23
Angie Moon - 22 (-2 positions)
Francesca DiCaprio - 22

Well, there're some significant changes and probably the most intriguing race!
Nataly Gold who was leading her group quite confidently, now is 3 positions down and advancing only as best 4th place. Monika Fox, on the contrary, is 3 positions up, as well as Stacy Bloom (for whom this tournament can apparently become a swan song according the last news :( :( :( ). Teens Evelina Darling and Alita Angel are going in sync, Isabella Clark is also in the game.
Here is the tie order (based on base rating):
- Stacy Bloom
- Monika Fox
- Elen Million
- Nataly Gold
- Isabella Clark
- Evelina Darling
- Angie Moon
- Francesca DiCaprio
- Alita Angel
- Henessy

Advance to the Top-50 from Latin group:

Emily Pink - 41 (+2 scenes since voting has started)
Natasha Teen - 35
Polly Petrova - 32 (+1 scene)
Alicia Trece - 24 (+1 scene)
Daniela Ortiz - 24 (+1 scene)
Natasha Rios - 23 (+2 scenes)
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Cris Bathory - 13

From the most interesting to the most clear group, 10 points between the last advancing place and the first pursuer.
But it's important to remember that the future "South" group in next round will be formed from these 6 girls, Veronica Leal and Francys Belle, and top Asians Jureka del Mar and May Thai who also are going to advance from their group.

Advance to the Top-50 from Italy, "Continental West Europe"* and Post-Soviet** groups together:
* without British and Canadian girls
** without Asian girls

Mina - 45 (+1 scene since voting has started)
Sara Bell - 43
Eveline Dellai - 36 (+2 scenes)
Silvia Dellai - 32 (+2 scenes)
NiciXdream - 32 (+1 scene)
Megan Venturi - 27
Gabriella Lati - 27

Adeline Lafouine - 26
July Sun - 26

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Moona Snake - 24
Jessy Jey - 23
Silvia Soprano - 22
Rebecca Volpetti - 22

Venera Maxima - 22
Lina Arian - 21


Watching the heartbreaking battle between Megan Venturi and Gabriella Lati I decided to make a significant change in advancing rules. Now I combined three groups together and best 9 from all of them (without Brits, Canadian and Asians) will go to the top-50 round. What does it mean? Well, now we have 3 girls with some advantage from each group - perfectly balanced. It made me sad for the Italians but, hand on heart, we have four girls veeeery close to each other (Moona Snake, Jessy Jey, Silvia Soprano, Rebecca Volpetti), and maybe it's right to have a girl from another region instead, if she's confidently ahead. But! If one of these Italians gains equal or, of course, more votes than Megan/Gabriela, she will be higher.
Tie order (based on base rating and "group preferences"):
- Adeline Lafouine
- July Sun (both are higher than others in base rating)
- Moona Snake
- Silvia Soprano
- Jessy Jey
- Rebecca Volpetti
- Megan Venturi
- Gabriella Lati (Italy group > Post-Soviet group, then base rating decides between each other)

Advance to the Top-50 from USA and "British" groups together:

Rebel Rhyder - 40 (+3 scenes since voting has started)
Tina Kay - 31
Angel Smalls - 29
Syren De Mer - 28
Charlotte Sartre - 27

Baby Kxtten - 27 (+2 scenes)
Emily Belle - 23 (+2 positions)
Lydia Black - 22 (+2 positions, +2 scenes)
Barbie Sins - 21 (+2 positions)
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Veronica Avluv - 21 (-3 positions)
Lauren Phillips - 20 (-3 positions)
Eden Ivy - 18 (+1 scene)

And here is similar situation: I just combined USA, GBR and CAN girls in one devision, best 9 will advance and join Anna de Ville in next round. Now we have 4 Americans, 4 Brits and 1 Canadian, but the race is very close and could change from each vote.
Tie order (based on base rating):
- Barbie Sins
- Eden Ivy (yep, she doesn't do DAP, but she's great in everything else and her scenes are quite popular)
- Lydia Black
- Veronica Avluv
- Lauren Phillips
- Emily Belle

:eek: :eek: :eek: How the top-50 groups look like 5 days before the end of voting :eek: :eek: :eek:

CZECH: Brittany Bardot, Kristy Black, Ria Sunn, Linda Sweet, Cindy Shine, Rebecca Sharon, Belle Claire, Susan Ayn, Timea Bella, Tabitha Poison

RUSSIAN: Nicole Black, Kira Thorn, Arwen Gold, Crystal Greenvelle, Selvaggia, Monika Wild, Stacy Bloom, Elen Million, Monika Fox, Nataly Gold

EUROPE: Jolee Love, Mina, Sara Bell, Eveline Dellai, Silvia Dellai, NiciXdream, Megan Venturi, Gabriella Lati, Adeline Lafouine, July Sun

ATLANTIC: Anna de Ville, Rebel Rhyder, Tina Kay, Angel Smalls, Syren De Mer, Charlotte Sartre, Baby Kxtten, Emily Belle, Lydia Black, Barbie Sins

SOUTH: Veronica Leal, Francys Belle, Emily Pink, Natasha Teen, Polly Petrova, Jureka Del Mar, May Thai, Alicia Trece, Daniela Ortiz, Natasha Rios

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Sun Jun 25, 2023 3:36 pm

pronossstat wrote:Advance to the Top-50 from Czech and East Europe groups together:


Oh man, wrong link to the Czech group :(
Fixed here.

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Sat Jul 01, 2023 12:50 am

Round of TOP-100 is over

We have a couple of breathtaking races last day, but favorites won, even without additional criteria.
The results of polls you can see by follow the links from previous post,
and here are final groups of Top-50 round:

CZECH: Brittany Bardot, Kristy Black, Ria Sunn, Linda Sweet (44), Rebecca Sharon (40), Cindy Shine (40), Belle Claire (38), Susan Ayn (33), Timea Bella (31), Tabitha Poison (28)

RUSSIA: Nicole Black, Kira Thorn, Arwen Gold, Crystal Greenvelle (43), Selvaggia (36), Monika Wild (34), Elen Million (33), Stacy Bloom (31), Monika Fox (31), Nataly Gold (30)

EUROPE: Jolee Love, Mina (47), Sara Bell (46), Eveline Dellai (39), NiciXdream (37), Silvia Dellai (35), July Sun (30), Megan Venturi (29), Adeline Lafouine (28), Gabriella Lati (28)

ATLANTIC: Anna de Ville, Rebel Rhyder (42), Tina Kay (33), Syren De Mer (32), Angel Smalls (32), Baby Kxtten (30), Charlotte Sartre (29), Emily Belle (26), Lydia Black (25), Barbie Sins (24)

SOUTH: Veronica Leal, Francys Belle, Emily Pink (44), Natasha Teen (36), Polly Petrova (34), Jureka Del Mar (32), May Thai (31), Alicia Trece (27), Daniela Ortiz (25), Natasha Rios (24)

Girls who were just in a couple of votes from advance:
Isabella Clark, Evelina Darling, Florane Russell, Veronica Avluv, Lauren Phillips

TOP-50 Round will be completely different

Finally all the stars are joining the game, but the most important thing is that there won't be just one poll for each group...
First of all, we will have 4 polls for each group:
1. Attractiveness (x2) - means not only "plain" face/body appearance, but also sexiness, oomph, allure, charming, cuteness etc
2. LP/AV Career (x3) - all about quantity: number of scenes, active years, different genres etc
3. Anal Performance (x3) - not so much quantity as quality
4. Perversions: piss, cum play, puke etc (x2) - not so much quantity as quality

for Attractiveness and Anal polls all of girls will be available for voting, but from Career and Perversions polls I've excluded some girls who are obviously losing to their opponents, just to prevent from "support my favorite no matter what" (f.e. my favorite Angel Smalls doesn't have great career here in comparison with many others, and also didn't do many dirty stuff, so she won't be there).
Each vote will be multiplied by the number in brackets: so it means that one vote from Career and Anal polls will give 3 points, from Attractiveness and Perversions - 2 points.

And moreover, we will have another 5 polls for other aspects of performance: Passion (enthusiasm, active sex etc), Gape, Oral Performance (deepthroat/rimming), Vaginal Skills (DVP/TVP/Vaginal fisting), Squirting
These polls won't be for each group, no, just 10 girls selected from all groups for each poll. Selection is on my opinion, I will pick girls with some exceptional performance in these aspects, but I think you will agree with most of them ;) And of course some girls won't be in any of these additional polls, unfortunately...
Votes from these polls won't be multiplied - just one point for each vote.

As a result, we sum up all (multiplied) votes from all polls for each model.
For example, Model A got 20 votes in Attractiveness, 30 votes in LP/AV Career, 25 votes in Anal Performance, 10 votes in Perversions and she also was in Passion and Squirt polls and got there 23 and 7 votes respectively
20x2 + 30x3 + 25x3 + 10x2 + 23 + 7 = 255 points her final result

Group winners advance to the final, another five girls will be the girls with better results from all groups except winners. It means, from one group it could be only one finalist, from other it could be three or even four, but most likely there will be two from most groups.
And thus we will have our Final 10.

Maybe we will have also a classic two-persons final, maybe with classic semifinals, after Top-10, I haven't decided yet, will see.
Let's survive Top-50 first :D

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby dap-addict » Sat Jul 01, 2023 5:53 am

What a great and very elaborated poll! :) :cool:



pronossstat wrote:And moreover, we will have another 5 polls for other aspects of performance: Passion (enthusiasm, active sex etc), Gape, Oral Performance (deepthroat/rimming), Vaginal Skills (DVP/TVP/Vaginal fisting), Squirting
These polls won't be for each group, no, just 10 girls selected from all groups for each poll. Selection is on my opinion, I will pick girls with some exceptional performance in these aspects

Will there be one of these 5 group selections for each TOP50 girls?
Because if not, then you would actually favorite some girls with your picks, ie. give them a bigger chance to win more points. Or do I maybe not understand the concept? :confused:

Btw, no need to vote on vaginal porn skills imho! ;)
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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Sat Jul 01, 2023 10:42 am

dap-addict wrote:What a great and very elaborated poll! :) :cool:


Thanks! :)

dap-addict wrote:
pronossstat wrote:And moreover, we will have another 5 polls for other aspects of performance: Passion (enthusiasm, active sex etc), Gape, Oral Performance (deepthroat/rimming), Vaginal Skills (DVP/TVP/Vaginal fisting), Squirting
These polls won't be for each group, no, just 10 girls selected from all groups for each poll. Selection is on my opinion, I will pick girls with some exceptional performance in these aspects

Will there be one of these 5 group selections for each TOP50 girls?
Because if not, then you would actually favorite some girls with your picks, ie. give them a bigger chance to win more points. Or do I maybe not understand the concept? :confused:


I'm afraid you understand it right :) I would be happy to include more girls in these polls, but they are restricted to 10 options and we already have 25 polls for this round only, so... That' why I balanced it by multiplying points in main polls. Besides, here is the same logic as with LP Career poll, f.e, where I also exclude some girls. Speaking of that, not being in the main polls hits the odds much more seriously...
But maybe I will make two polls for "Passion", because this is the most subjective category and there're more than 10 very strong candidates.

Right now maximum number of additional polls for one girl is 3, and some of them won't get much votes in Attractiveness, I'm sure, and some of them are the main favorites, so I don't think it will be crucial. Just to pay tribute to the most exceptional skills.

dap-addict wrote:Btw, no need to vote on vaginal porn skills imho! ;)

Man, it's just one poll without votes multiplying :D :D Speaking seriously, DVP/TVP porn has developed very well last year, so I just can't ignore it, it would be unfair for some performers. For example, NiciXDream took 1st place in very competitive group, and her main skill, no doubts, is DVP/TVP. And she won't be in some main polls, so left a group winner without her main skill would be unfair. And this is only one example :)

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby dap-addict » Mon Jul 03, 2023 1:01 pm

pronossstat wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Will there be one of these 5 group selections for each TOP50 girls?
Because if not, then you would actually favorite some girls with your picks, ie. give them a bigger chance to win more points. Or do I maybe not understand the concept? :confused:


I'm afraid you understand it right :) I would be happy to include more girls in these polls, but they are restricted to 10 options

Why cant you group the TOP50 girls in 5 categories according to their TOP competence and/or talent?
Because in that way every of those TOP50 girls would get a chance to win some additional points.
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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Tue Jul 04, 2023 9:31 pm

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pronossstat wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Will there be one of these 5 group selections for each TOP50 girls?
Because if not, then you would actually favorite some girls with your picks, ie. give them a bigger chance to win more points. Or do I maybe not understand the concept? :confused:


I'm afraid you understand it right :) I would be happy to include more girls in these polls, but they are restricted to 10 options

Why cant you group the TOP50 girls in 5 categories according to their TOP competence and/or talent?
Because in that way every of those TOP50 girls would get a chance to win some additional points.

First of all, because that is not what this competition about. We rated 200 girls in two rounds "in general" and now should only by one side, why? It's not about one talent but about different sides of each model. Every model from this top-50 has their top talents, but it doesn't mean there is only one talent per model. And some models has more different talents, some less, but they could be at top in their one or two - it's okay. And just imagine Anna de Ville only in one poll and say that this is "more fair" situation :D

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! 200+ girls, 50+ polls

Postby pronossstat » Tue Jul 04, 2023 10:02 pm

dap-addict wrote:
pronossstat wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Will there be one of these 5 group selections for each TOP50 girls?
Because if not, then you would actually favorite some girls with your picks, ie. give them a bigger chance to win more points. Or do I maybe not understand the concept? :confused:


I'm afraid you understand it right :) I would be happy to include more girls in these polls, but they are restricted to 10 options

Why cant you group the TOP50 girls in 5 categories according to their TOP competence and/or talent?
Because in that way every of those TOP50 girls would get a chance to win some additional points.

And just one thing that makes your suggestion totally unfair. Okay, we've sorted girls like you said. Group "Anal", Anna should be there, right? That's all, other girls in this group with very strong anal/DAP skills now doesn't have any chance to advance just because they have to face the greatest one while the others doesn't. And I simply don't know what other groups must be about. "Piss group"? Okay, but it is without Anna, she's already in "Anal" group, which makes it just ridiculous. Then what, "Cum"? Alright, then maybe "Passion". Now I select 20 girls and it was very hard, and here I must pick 10 girls. What else, maybe "Fisting"? Okay. 5 groups. Where must be, for example, Timea Bella or Emily Belle or NiciXDream or Gabriella Lati, etc? See, there is no chance to form adequate groups on this principle. Making simple polls like we have in previous rounds would be much more appropriate. But I decided to make some different things, so just wait for one-two days, I'm finishing the preparation ;)

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! Top-100 round is over

Postby pronossstat » Wed Jul 05, 2023 12:58 am

dap-addict wrote:Why cant you group the TOP50 girls in 5 categories according to their TOP competence and/or talent?
Because in that way every of those TOP50 girls would get a chance to win some additional points.

Sorry, now I think I get you totally wrong, and you meant additional polls. :o You can ignore everything I wrote above))
Well, that makes sense, but the problem is the same: some girls just doesn't have some special talents besides Attractiveness or Anal or Piss. That was one of the reason why I will increase the weight of vote in these polls. For now there're 9 girls I couldn't made up some strong additional talent:
Crystal Greenvelle
Cindy Shine
Susan Ayn
Timea Bella
May Thai
Emily Belle
July Sun
Megan Venturi
Gabriella Lati

and I suspect, most of them will gain many votes in Attractiveness and some decent points in Career, Anal and Perversions.

Only 5 girls have 3 additional talents, with Brittany Bardot, Veronica Leal and Anna de Ville among them. This is still a draft, something could change while I'm preparing, but still: three absolutely legends will have a bit more chances to advance, fair enough, no?
And 10 girls have 2 talents, more than a half are MILFs or matures who, I suspect, won't gain much in Attractiveness poll. So I don't see here problems too.

Sorry again for the previous misunderstanding

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! Top-100 round is over

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jul 05, 2023 6:44 am

It's okay, prono, its your poll.
I just think with these additional polls based on your own subjective choices and with not every girl having a chance to earn additional points the end result becomes less objective.
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Postby pronossstat » Thu Jul 06, 2023 7:58 pm

dap-addict wrote:It's okay, prono, its your poll.
I just think with these additional polls based on your own subjective choices and with not every girl having a chance to earn additional points the end result becomes less objective.

You have all rights and reasons to think that way, but I post the list of girls for whom I couldn't find any "special" talents (strong enough to be in or near top-10 of a talent). If you can name some I would be grateful. Oh, I decided to make "Fisting" poll, and Susan Ayn will be there, so minus one.
And still I don't think that the situation where Anna or Vero or Brittany has more chances to win than f.e. Gabriella Lati less objective. For me it is more objective, to be honest ;)

But it's okay if you think other way, I just hope you will like the process anyway. I'm on the finish line now, just have been searching gifs for each girl and each act, fuck... :D :D :D

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! Top-100 round is over

Postby pronossstat » Mon Jul 17, 2023 10:51 pm

I'm very sad to speak about that but it should be done.
About my suspicion (because I don't have and can not have any direct proof) of voting fraud for NiciXDream

First of all, a little story from previous round. A couple of days before the end of voting there was a very small activity, most of fans have already voted. I updated data in my google sheet in the afternoon, then after a couple of hours refreshed the page and what did I see? Nici had 32 votes, near her was 2-3 models. And now she has 37 votes! Other models (from other groups too, I mean other 89 models) didn't get any (or maybe a couple in competitive groups) in these three hours, and Nici got 5! How could it be? I don't know.

I wanted to write about it straightaway but washed my hands - it didn't affect the main result anyway.

And now we have:
- Nici is leading in every poll she participating (even Anna and Veronica could only dream about such a result)
- Nici is leading Attractiveness poll by 7, Anal poll by 6 and Perversions poll by 8. There are only two another results with 6+ advantage in main polls: Nicole is by 9 in Russian LP-Career and Arwen is by 6 in Russian Anal.
- Nici doesn't drink piss, has a weakest "perversions" statistics (she is only one who doesn't have green cells in the picture below, July Sunn and Gabriela Lati were already excluded from this poll)
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- Nici has not the weakest, but far from strong statistics in Anal.
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- Maybe she has some exceptional anal performance like Angel Smalls, f.e.? Or has something special in her appearance, like many girls from NRX? Well, it all must be reflected in sells and/or comments at least.
Lets see:
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Zero trophies. Quite a small number of comments (July Sun, f.e., has more by 100)
And with all that:
- 1st place in her group, even without participating in the most valuable poll.
- 5th place in all top-50, only Anna, Rebel, Veronica and Brittany are higher (each of them are in 7-8 polls, Nici has 4). Mina is below, Nicole is below, all other Latinas and all Russians are below.
Seems like a true, right, nothing suspicious at all.

Want more?
If we count average votes in 4 main polls, Anna will have 23, Rebel - 22, Brittany and Veronica - 20, Nicole - 24, Arwen - 22, and Nici?... 26! First fucking place. It means, if I include her in Career poll, she could be a winner of all top-50 round! Just 10 votes in Career - and she's above Brittany.

Okay, to DVP poll. She's first with a giant advantage, and I have no problem, she's a queen here, no doubts.
But lets look at the numbers: she has 43 votes. No one else has gotten that many votes anywhere. Was she the obvious favorite in this poll? Of course, no doubt about it. Was it the only one poll with such a strong favorite? I don't think so.
F.e. Gape poll. Rebel and Anna are favorites, right? We have 5 votes, most of voters must voted for them, right? Rebel - 31, Anna - 26. Strong favorites.
Veronica is leading in passion and enthusiasm polls. With 24 and 27 votes.
Rebel is leading in Fisting poll with 24 votes.
And Nici - with 43. Nothing suspicious again.

You know what is also funny? 10 girls were seeded in this round, they didn't participate in previous rounds just because it was obvious they would advance. If we exclude Nici, 8 of this 10 girls are in top-10 right now. Only Kira Thorn and Ria Sunn aren't, but they have another two seeds in their groups above them, so someone has to be outside. Rebel Rhyder and Mina are instead of them.
Here is top-20 for now with rankings from my base rating I'm was talking about in previous rounds, in the second column:
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Only three serious discrepancies:
Rebel Rhyder on the 2nd place while she's outside top-20 in the ranking, but it's easy to explain: she is one of the most skilled performer, participated in 7 polls (all 4 main + 3 additional) and has a weak competition in her weakest side - Career.
Adeline Lafouine on 17th place, while she is №44: she is also in 4+3 polls (and she is the lower one who had 7+ polls), and she's on 17th, not 5th place.
NiciXDream on 5th place, with #64 in rating and only 3+1 polls.

I hope I was able to convey my position.
I have no problem with unexpected results. Some disappoints me a bit, some I don't care, it's up to you anyway. But I have problem with an obvious fraud.
I can explain why Nicole Black took the lead in Perversion poll while she obviously didn't deserve it. Yes, she's very popular. This is what I mean by "popular":
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And I exclude her after first day from that poll, and what? No one told me I was wrong, on the contrary, someone agreed with this decision.
Now we have much more reasons to do such thing, because we don't have nay reasonable explanation of such Nici's success. It's not about just "unfair" or "unscrupulous" voting. It's about literal fraud.

43 votes for her in DVP, 31 - best other result in all other polls, so I think, for now we have at least 10-15 fake votes for Nici in every poll.
I'm not sure what exactly to do with this. Should I totally ban her, or cut this 10-15 votes, or just remove her from Perversion poll like I did with Nicole (because I include both of them last moment, they shouldn't be there in first place)?
I haven't decide yet, but obviously she won't be in the Final-10, I appreciate my work here too much to be okay with such spam.

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! Top-100 round is over

Postby pronossstat » Mon Jul 17, 2023 11:25 pm

Yes, and I forget to remind you about NiciXDream's Qualification results.
Here we are, 3rd place after Tina Kay and July Sun and only 2 votes above Emily Belle. Looks like a strong favorite for the whole tournament, right? :D :D

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Lets compare with them now:

Tina Kay (31 votes in Quals): 32 votes in 4 polls
Emily Belle (24): 16 votes in 2 polls
July Sun (31): 26 votes in 2 polls (in Nici's group)
NiciXDream (26): 79 votes in 3 polls (or 50 votes in two "July Sun's" polls)

Quals were two months ago. What happened? Did Nici something extraordinary? Or some brave fan just missed quals and noticed this tournament by the end of the top-100 round, when he gave Nici 5 votes in a couple hours? :rolleyes: :D

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby pronossstat » Tue Jul 18, 2023 1:19 am

Something has changed while I was making a review, now we have three girls from Czech group and only one from Latin, but it doesn't really matter right now, 1 vote could change everything in every moment.
Here is our results. Pink are 1st places, blue - other best 5.

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Re: !LP/AV World Championship! Top-100 round is over

Postby dap-addict » Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:06 pm

pronossstat wrote:43 votes for her in DVP, 31 - best other result in all other polls, so I think, for now we have at least 10-15 fake votes for Nici in every poll.
I'm not sure what exactly to do with this. Should I totally ban her, or cut this 10-15 votes, or just remove her from Perversion poll like I did with Nicole (because I include both of them last moment, they shouldn't be there in first place)?
I haven't decide yet, but obviously she won't be in the Final-10, I appreciate my work here too much to be okay with such spam.

I dont quote all, but I adore all this your post here.
For me in my feeling it was clear from the start that something with NiciXDreams entry result was wrong already, especially her being ahead of Emily Belle so much, but as a nostalgic Renee Pornero fan I thought its nice to have an Austrian porn girl in the poll.

Now what could have happened?
I think either 2-3 of her fans have many parallel accounts here. Or some insider linked in some way to the forum is pushing her. The latter seems less likely to me.
But if you'd ask me, I'd not deduct 10-15 votes, but just ban her.
Sorry, too bad, but sorry! :mad:
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Postby dap-addict » Tue Jul 18, 2023 6:12 pm

Btw, all in all, at this moment Rebecca Sharon seems a bit too high up to me.
But here I cant find any explanation at all because she hasnt any kind of lobby within forum talkers as far as I could see over last few years.
Just keep a close eye on her!

I like her, she's an undervalued actress also by producers, that's no question, but she cant end TOP10 really in such a poll. :confused: Lest she collects really a lot of those 5 additional poll votes! ;)
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Postby pronossstat » Tue Jul 18, 2023 8:26 pm

dap-addict wrote:I dont quote all, but I adore all this your post here.

Thanks, mate! :cool:

dap-addict wrote:But if you'd ask me, I'd not deduct 10-15 votes, but just ban her.
Sorry, too bad, but sorry! :mad:

I'm still considering options, no need to rush :) Unfortunately, I can't remove her from polls because all votes would disappear, but her results there doesn't really matter, of course I won't let her be in top-10 or somewhere near. If she will be in the second half after restrictions - may it be so.

dap-addict wrote:Btw, all in all, at this moment Rebecca Sharon seems a bit too high up to me.
But here I cant find any explanation at all because she hasnt any kind of lobby within forum talkers as far as I could see over last few years.
Just keep a close eye on her!

I like her, she's an undervalued actress also by producers, that's no question, but she cant end TOP10 really in such a poll. :confused: Lest she collects really a lot of those 5 additional poll votes! ;)

Well, I think it is an effect from splitting poll to many categories ;) She is a great performer with a great career and large statistics, and honest voters give her a credit. I think popularity is best reflected in Attractiveness poll and there's no crime at all for now :D Now she's on 10th place, but just one vote for Ria or Francys - and she's out of top-10.
It's too early now, I think all girls from 5th to 15th and maybe even to 20th place are able to end both in and out of top-10.

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby backflipman » Tue Jul 18, 2023 9:09 pm

What makes it even more suspicious is the fact that each user could vote for multiple models in each thread. So the exceptional models would most likely get a vote from the most users while other votes may be more spread around all models, but I think it would turn out to have the top model maybe have 5-7 more votes than second place and the weakest model 5-7 less than second last place. I hope you understand what I mean, several votes from each user just means that things should be more balanced out in total, unless there are just a lot of users thinking they only have 1 vote and just decided for Nici.
Sad that for a fun community interactive competition there seems to be cheating. I liked the whole idea and appreciate the work you put into that pronossstat thanks alot!

As for Rebecca Sharon I have to say she really is underrated, she started with 18 is kinda cute, has impressive anal skills a big gape and is active for 8 years already. Maybe there was too much studio swapping, scene where she somehow couldn't really shine often, because co-stars, males, make-up, setup or action was lackluster.
For example she never did a Gonzo or SOS scene with Charlie Mac, who I still believe was a sales booster. She didn't have Gonzo scenes with popular females active in that time like Arwen Gold, Ria Sunn (who debuted the same year), Blanche Bradburry.
She was more the base performer alongside newcomers or other models that in a solo scene wouldn't sell well enough. I think in every thread she was present i gave her a vote, because she is either exceptional at the topic or competition wasn't strong enough. I hope she just finally got the appreciation she deserves.

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby pronossstat » Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:15 am

backflipman wrote:As for Rebecca Sharon I have to say she really is underrated, she started with 18 is kinda cute, has impressive anal skills a big gape and is active for 8 years already. Maybe there was too much studio swapping, scene where she somehow couldn't really shine often, because co-stars, males, make-up, setup or action was lackluster.
For example she never did a Gonzo or SOS scene with Charlie Mac, who I still believe was a sales booster. She didn't have Gonzo scenes with popular females active in that time like Arwen Gold, Ria Sunn (who debuted the same year), Blanche Bradburry.
She was more the base performer alongside newcomers or other models that in a solo scene wouldn't sell well enough. I think in every thread she was present i gave her a vote, because she is either exceptional at the topic or competition wasn't strong enough. I hope she just finally got the appreciation she deserves.

Yes, I got you and agree with you both on voting and Rebecca. I checked now and am a bit surprised that I voted for her even in Attractiveness poll :) She's maybe not the prettiest girl, but she's smily, charming and at the same time sexy one, which is quite rare combination (Veronica is a great example of it). Her attractiveness is revealed in the video, not on the photos.

backflipman wrote:I liked the whole idea and appreciate the work you put into that pronossstat thanks alot!

You are welcome, thanks for these words! Despite a couple of not very pleasant moments I like the way it goes and feel myself somewhat like a scientist who is doing an experiment and whose hypothesis is confirmed :D

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby House MD » Wed Jul 19, 2023 12:43 am

Yeah like the Dellai sisters or July Sun (who historically has made very sparse videos these last couple years could not have been over-voted by duplicate accounts
This poll is a laugh... typical of 'democratic' soviet polls so why doesn't such practice not surprise me here

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby pronossstat » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:13 am

House MD wrote:Yeah like the Dellai sisters or July Sun (who historically has made very sparse videos these last couple years could not have been over-voted by duplicate accounts
This poll is a laugh... typical of 'democratic' soviet polls so why doesn't such practice not surprise me here

Oh yeah, I lived in Russia almost all of my life and I know everything about electoral fraud :D :D :D Thing you've done here calls in Russia "carousel voting" - when the same person, or, most often, a group of persons, are able to vote several times in different places. And watching how desperate you (and only you) passing the buck to other girls (who aren't even in top-15 and July is #8 from the end) reminds me another Russian idiom: "на воре и шапка горит", which means, a guilty conscience gives itself away. ;) By the way, this is a typical take from russian government: "everyone does it, why can't I???"

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby pronossstat » Wed Jul 19, 2023 2:03 am

Well, I've had enough of this circus for today :D let's do a quick update:

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Francys Belle did great this day and is up by 4 positions.
Arwen Gold is in danger, Kristy Black and Jolee Love also can't relax.

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jul 19, 2023 9:35 am

backflipman wrote:As for Rebecca Sharon... (...)
She was more the base performer alongside newcomers or other models that in a solo scene wouldn't sell well enough. I think in every thread she was present i gave her a vote, because she is either exceptional at the topic or competition wasn't strong enough. I hope she just finally got the appreciation she deserves.

I do hope the same for her!
Still I think she's an example of either prono giving her sort of a forfeit by putting her in all or most additional polls or by something strange going on.
Rebecca Sharon is a very strong performer, but she was always a bit of a stopgap booked locally when other models flaked etc. No studio ever even tried to turn her into a carrying model.
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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby pronossstat » Wed Jul 19, 2023 1:44 pm

dap-addict wrote:As for Rebecca Sharon... (...)
I do hope the same for her!
Still I think she's an example of either prono giving her sort of a forfeit by putting her in all or most additional polls or by something strange going on.

She's in only one additional poll and has there only 9 votes, so no, that's not the reason :D

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Wed Jul 19, 2023 5:34 pm

pronossstat wrote:Well, I've had enough of this circus for today :D let's do a quick update:

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Francys Belle did great this day and is up by 4 positions.
Arwen Gold is in danger, Kristy Black and Jolee Love also can't relax.


I am so impressed by your statistical, technical, and computer skills...

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby House MD » Wed Jul 19, 2023 7:00 pm

pronossstat wrote:Well, I've had enough of this circus for today :D let's do a quick update:

Screen Shot 2023-07-19 at 03.57.17.jpg

Francys Belle did great this day and is up by 4 positions.
Arwen Gold is in danger, Kristy Black and Jolee Love also can't relax.


Well I'm afraid you're gonna have to gulp another generous helping of circus crap today
For starters, judging by the soviet way your censored and unpublished it, you obviously seem more butthurt than anything else to see NiciXDream's real numbers as captured by the polling tracker
How come an actress performing to the pinnacle of her capacity while having the "misfortune" of showcasing out-of-the-ordinary VAGINAL prowess still manages to outperform your load of analpiss, play, waka rubbish? I take this is an anally vicious reality check for you and those with their head stuck neck deep inside Giorgio's shithole

Secondly, the form and approach itself is utterly unprofessional and wrong for in the process you are indirectly blaming NiciXDream and actually penalizing her as if she had anything to do with your phony, unproven accusations. How inconsiderate vis-à-vis the performer but hey... SOOOVIET RUUUSIAAAAAAA

Thirdly, there is nothing more 'statistically' retarded than tossing statements as fallacious as 'Nici doesn't drink piss, has a weakest "perversions" statistics'
Garbage assumptions in inevitably leads to garbage results out
Try stretching your pussy halfway NiciXDream's gape then call me in the morning to let us know how it fared... more like perversion for the weak bladders and needle-dicks

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby pronossstat » Thu Jul 20, 2023 8:49 am

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am so impressed by your statistical, technical, and computer skills...

Thanks mate, I appreciate it ;)

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Meanwhile, Rebecca Sharon is entering top-10, and not instead of Arwen Gold, but instead of her direct opponent Kristy Black!
Kristy didn't get any points last day, while Rebecca got +12 and Arwen +14.
But the most impressive run was made by Polly Petrova: +23 points and she's only 2 points away from top-10 now! Yet another strong candidate for the Finals.
Also can't be ignored the progress made by Sara Bell: +20 points and 3 positions, she was at the same level with twins and Adeline all the time, and now finally someone from this quartet managed to make breakthrough. She came over Ria Sunn (0 points last day), so lets see how she and Kristy will answer, as well as Emily Pink (+11 points but still quite behind top-10).

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby plajvaz » Thu Jul 20, 2023 10:37 pm

@pronossstat: I want to give you kudos one more time. These polls are great and very interesting.

I must say it is really dissapointing to see this cheating with NiciXDream votes. Nici is very good performer with best vaginal skills (I have also voted for her in few polls). But, considering number of votes in all polls with NiciXDream and the way how these votes progressed over time, it is obvious there was voting fraud. Unfortunatelly, this didn't bring any good to NiciXDream and I also think that Nici's score is not valid and she should be disqualified from the competition.

I have a suggestion, in order to avoid a similar cheaing in the last round:

Instead of creating one poll (or more polls) with top 10 girls, in which members will anonymously vote by checking one or more checkboxes (and each vote will be calculated as one point), you can organize voting like EuroSong voting system:

1. Select first 20 or 25 top ranked girls

2. Create just one standard topic (without creating poll) and list all these girls.

3. Each forum member can vote by giving points for exactly 10 girls in his post.
Points can be distributed like in EuroSong voting (12 - 10 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1) or you can use some other distribution system (for example, 15 - 12 - 10 - 8 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1).

With this approach, you will achieve two things:
1. You will eliminate fraud/cheating. Voting is transparent and you can ignore the votes from forum members that don't have at least 5 or 10 posts and/or from forum members that are registered just few days ago.
2. You will give forum members the possibility to rank their favorites. For example, in the Europe/Anal poll, I voted for five girls (so I gave each of them 1 point). But, the situation would be much closer to reality if I could assign a different number of points to each of these 5 girls. For example, in that case, I would give 5 points to Adeline Lafouine , 4 points to Sara Bell, 3 points to July Sun, etc... That would reflect my opinion much better.

What do you think about this idea?

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Re: LP/AV World Champ! Top-50 review. Fraud for NiciXDream

Postby pronossstat » Thu Jul 20, 2023 11:39 pm

plajvaz wrote:@pronossstat: I want to give you kudos one more time. These polls are great and very interesting.

I must say it is really dissapointing to see this cheating with NiciXDream votes. Nici is very good performer with best vaginal skills (I have also voted for her in few polls). But, considering number of votes in all polls with NiciXDream and the way how these votes progressed over time, it is obvious there was voting fraud. Unfortunatelly, this didn't bring any good to NiciXDream and I also think that Nici's score is not valid and she should be disqualified from the competition.


First, thank you so much, it's very important for me to hear such opinion from a person who actually voted for Nici. I feel sorry for you and for her, that's why I still don't want to remove her completely. After I cut 15 votes from Attractiveness and Anal, all votes from Perv and 10 votes from DVP, she got 90 points and #41 - pretty adequate imho.

plajvaz wrote:I have a suggestion, in order to avoid a similar cheaing in the last round:

Instead of creating one poll (or more polls) with top 10 girls, in which members will anonymously vote by checking one or more checkboxes (and each vote will be calculated as one point), you can organize voting like EuroSong voting system:

1. Select first 20 or 25 top ranked girls

2. Create just one standard topic (without creating poll) and list all these girls.

3. Each forum member can vote by giving points for exactly 10 girls in his post.
Points can be distributed like in EuroSong voting (12 - 10 - 8 - 7 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1) or you can use some other distribution system (for example, 15 - 12 - 10 - 8 - 6 - 5 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1).

With this approach, you will achieve two things:
1. You will eliminate fraud/cheating. Voting is transparent and you can ignore the votes from forum members that don't have at least 5 or 10 posts and/or from forum members that are registered just few days ago.
2. You will give forum members the possibility to rank their favorites. For example, in the Europe/Anal poll, I voted for five girls (so I gave each of them 1 point). But, the situation would be much closer to reality if I could assign a different number of points to each of these 5 girls. For example, in that case, I would give 5 points to Adeline Lafouine , 4 points to Sara Bell, 3 points to July Sun, etc... That would reflect my opinion much better.

What do you think about this idea?


You know, this is a very interesting suggestion! I also missed the possibility to give girls different points in these polls, that's why I created something that makes it itself ;) But your system is simpler (in a good way) and definitely is better protected from fraud. On the other hand, in top-10 Final I can't imagine such fraud like we have now, there will be only the legends :) And also I'm not sure how many people are not too lazy to write instead of just vote.

You know what, maybe we can do both? ;) Top-10 + semis + classic final with the rules from this round (6 polls for top-10 + 4 for semis + 2 for the final) and top-25 from this round with your system in just one thread. It will be interesting to compare the results :D And we will also get another competition for the place in a top-half.

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