Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[sumacs3]

1. Can anyone explain why in the Wendy (Muller) casting scene, Wendy asks his female translator to leave when Wendy begins to strip? Do other models do this? Is that a common thing? Or is this evidence she knows the whole plot? This was a pivotal moment.

2. Wendy is from Latvia, and so why is it filmed in Moscow? That would mean a special trip for her to a different country, just to do some fashion work? This seems odd. Do all the girls come from agencies, or might she have been vacationing in Russia and he invited her to his place? But a stranger? Most people did not have smartphones back then (2008).

3. In the later WUNF scene with her, PW thanks her at one point saying how he loves Russian girls! Is that a mistake on PW's part, or do you think she is Russian? I was a subscriber to Mia Mayblack at OF, who was also with PW, and she said that "Wendy" was from Latvia, as Mia was.

4. People speak of a hidden camera. But it looks like he zooms it in and out during the interview. Would she not detect this? Another mysterious thing.

5. She has her period and he does anal and things are all fine-looking!

I would like real evidence about what is fake!
Like a previous pattern.
Not simply some bold unproven statements.
Thanks.

[Panorama]

1. Can anyone explain why in the Wendy (Muller) casting scene, Wendy asks his female translator to leave when Wendy begins to strip? Do other models do this? Is that a common thing? Or is this evidence she knows the whole plot? This was a pivotal moment.
2. Wendy is from Latvia, and so why is it filmed in Moscow? That would mean a special trip for her to a different country, just to do some fashion work? This seems odd. Do all the girls come from agencies, or might she have been vacationing in Russia and he invited her to his place? But a stranger? Most people did not have smartphones back then (2008).
3. In the later WUNF scene with her, PW thanks her at one point saying how he loves Russian girls! Is that a mistake on PW's part, or do you think she is Russian? I was a subscriber to Mia Mayblack at OF, who was also with PW, and she said that "Wendy" was from Latvia, as Mia was.
4. People speak of a hidden camera. But it looks like he zooms it in and out during the interview. Would she not detect this? Another mysterious thing.
5. She has her period and he does anal and things are all fine-looking!

I would like real evidence about what is fake!
Like a previous pattern.
Not simply some bold unproven statements.
Thanks.

Hi Sumacs,
Ok so firstly, nobody can give you "real evidence". Nobody (as far as I know) on this forum has ever worked with Woodman, so your request can only be speculated.
However, watching the movies carefully, using simple common sense and perhaps talking to those (models) who have worked with Woodman can you get a good idea about what goes off in those "initiations".

I watched a load of woodman's castings but I've never seen your Wendy's casting. So this afternoon I spent just over an hour watching it. Now as you know the vast majority of women I've spoken to over the last year have point blank refused to talk about Woodman and I've put this down to the fact that they were coerced, tricked, and manipulated, into doing things they didn't want to do.
But as you might know, I recently was able to talk to a model who appeared in one of Woodman's movies (supposedly) and she gave me invaluable information about what happened to her. Some of the information made much of what I thought about Woodman completely wrong, but what I found was that although it cleared him of some of the worst of the allegations about his conduct with women, it actually made him look worse by his claims on those women and lies he's telling to his members.
So, in summary, I'm going to answer your questions using that new information the best I can. Again, these are my views I might be right, I might be wrong (I'm sure someone will tell me!)

In answer to question (1) I'm afraid Wendy isn't all she appears to be. Agencies don't send "Fashion" models to porn directors, period. When a model (porn) is sent for casting, she is told EVERYTHING that the producer (Woodman) wants to do with her by her agency. She can accept that job, or she can turn it down. If she accepts the offer, when she turns up to the shoot she signs the release BEFORE the shoot/casting not AFTER. If she turns up and doesn't complete what she has agreed to the producer can claim money back from her because she hasn't honoured her part of the agreement. The main part of this is that the model knows and agrees BEFORE the shoot. All this crap about Woodman trying to get models to sign a release AFTER they've been "secretly" filmed is bullshit, no model does this.
In answer to the second part of that in which " Wendy asks his female translator to leave" Ask yourself, do women find getting undressed in front of other women more or less uncomfortable than doing it in front of a man?? Doesn't make sense, does it? That's right because it's part of Pierre's story of getting the translator out of the room. Part of the plot something she was WELL aware of.

(2) Moscow, Latvia, Egypt, Thailand..... It could have been filmed absolutely anywhere. The camera never moves out of the room so you only have Pierre's word about where it's shot, and we know how much Woodman's words are worth. And yes all the girls come from agencies.

(3) Yes, she probably is Russian. This question probably goes hand in hand with answer (2) above. **Freudian slip** on Woodman's part.

(4) I noticed in some of Woodman's newer movies where he invited models back to talk about their careers if a scene contained a moment where the model would ingratiate Woodman he would zoom in just BEFORE she said the actual sentence.
Make of that what you will.

(5) Taking the rule of answer (1) She would have not gone for that interview knowing that she was on period. Again this is worked into the plot to make it LOOK like it's spontaneous. Also, I don't know if you have ever performed anal sex on a woman..... I have. You HAVE to have at least an anal douche before you try it because if you go any more than finger deep the results can be a real turn-off. Yes, you might get away with it, it's very, very doubtful. The last thing most people (well myself at least) want to see is a brown nugget popping out!! Don't forget this model was supposed to be nervous, her guts would have been like water (if it was genuine) So that again leads me to think that this was all planned WELL in advance and Wendy was "prepared" and had agreed to everything beforehand. (signed the release)

The deception here is to the Woodman faithful. They have been suckered for YEARS by this guy. All his claims about having sex with a model behind her boyfriend's back, it's all garbage. He would have been killed or at least ended up in hospital by now by some deranged lover. Think about it. The boyfriends either don't exist, or they know in advance what their girlfriends are doing.
The unseen castings? These are castings that either simply DO NOT EXIST, (Woodman pays the model to let him circulate the story of said casting) or Woodman pulled a stunt that wasn't in the RELEASE THAT THE MODEL SIGNED and so can't be shown..... But he'll tell the members he will show it SOON. Like Valencia says, the women go to Woodman because he pays over the odds and he's only got a small, soft willy. He's probably not even any good at sex (something I gave him credit for!) he's just another well-paid "job". All the images, all the text messages, all the "We are good friends" bullshit is just that.... Paid for Bullshit. That's also why he no longer gets invited to anything anymore because not only has the "hidden camera" thing been done to death already, but it's also lies and exaggerations. Nobody likes a liar.

You, me, and everyone else ESPECIALLY his followers have all been duped into believing his castings are real when in actual fact they are not. Every moan, scream, and orgasm is a well-paid fake.

This is the real reason why so many models would not talk to me about Woodman, not because of their trauma but because they were PAID to keep quiet!!

Sorry to burst your "genuine" bubble about Wendy sumacs, but what I've found out over the last few weeks, has made the scam artist that is Pierre Woodman become much easier to see when you look at the whole "casting" scene logically.

[BlueShadow]

[sumacs3]

You, me, and everyone else ESPECIALLY his followers have all been duped into believing his castings are real when in actual fact they are not. Every moan, scream, and orgasm is a well-paid fake.

This is the real reason why so many models would not talk to me about Woodman, not because of their trauma but because they were PAID to keep quiet!!

Sorry to burst your "genuine" bubble about Wendy sumacs, but what I've found out over the last few weeks, has made the scam artist that is Pierre Woodman become much easier to see when you look at the whole "casting" scene logically.

Thank you so much, Panorama, for taking the time to view the Wendy casting and for providing such a reasonable assessment of things. I did list 5 points in the hope that someone would organize their thoughts along those lines, which you have masterfully done.

I have tended to think of each casting as involving a naive girl that PW picks up off the street and then quickly seduces (or tries to seduce), although of course I also know that cannot really be so, especially when we think more about the logistics of having clean anal every time, and the girl often having perfect makeup, etc.

In short, I have ignored the Background because I was overwhelmed by the Foreground.

The fact that girls come from agencies that cater specifically to erotic models is something I had not considered, and then the fact that the girls already know what is expected of them is certainly, as you say, a bubble burster!

The idea that PW zooms in just before a girl says something complimentary is an interesting observation, although that needs more research.

Since he claims to have been with thousands of girls, and with his videos for all to see, you are right that it is surprising no vengeful boyfriend (or maybe even a parent!) has taken physical action against him, unless of course the girl has already agreed in writing to being with him.

I do believe Wendy is a natural at acting and also at enjoying sex, which makes her a great performer.

I think she is a good improviser, too. As Roxie at straponcum (defunct in the past month) the webmaster said in the blog that she choreographed a few of her scenes! This was after her two Woodman scenes had been made.

And here is the one thing that I should have evaluated further: It is called Woodman CASTING.

He states that he is a casting director, and so . . .

He is interviewing girls to PERFORM IN A MOVIE. It is sumacs' problem if I see it as real, and not PW's problem.

The thing is that whether it is real or staged, the overall effect for me is much the same: Very Enjoyable.

The girls have signed to perform, and the site is not called Woodman SEDUCTION.

It is true of course that PW plays it all to the hilt, but I think we should continue to be more concerned with how the girls are treated with regard to smearing "reputations" than with the reality of the scenes themselves.

Your reply has helped me see this more clearly.

Thanks again.

[dap-addict]

In short, I have ignored the Background because I was overwhelmed by the Foreground.

The fact that girls come from agencies that cater specifically to erotic models is something I had not considered, and then the fact that the girls already know what is expected of them is certainly, as you say, a bubble burster!

Ignorance and user naivety is the bliss of that biz!
But problem is some agencies dont inform the girls what exactly to expect at a PW casting or pre-casting dinner. They tell them what a casting is and which sex acts and side fetishes can be expected, but every so often PW tries to pressure for more and/or plays other psycho games on naive rookie girls.
In fact many girls are as naive as some of PW Casting fans are!


I'd also add a small country of origin info for sumacs3 5-pt-plan: Baltic countries, especially Latvia, are often used to disguise Russian girls, same with Finland btw. Also Russia/Ukraine/Belarus and sometimes also Poland is used interchangeable by agents, studios, girls themselves. Sad fact is that especially in Russia, but also in Ukraine, Belarus and Poland societies are still so conservative and nationalists even pressure on porn girls to leave their career option. Thus girls have all reasons to disguise. In case of Wendy she could actually have asked PW for this little lie.
Please always remember, porn girls security must come absolutely first!

[sumacs3]

Thank you for these informative updates, dap-addict and BlueShadow. Thngs make more sense now.

[ValenciaCF]

This one made my day

But another one too! He didn't know Marsianna amoon was a tornado on legs .He never do his research. Lolololol

[sumacs3]

Got to confess that I never developed a leggy tornado fetish.

[dap-addict]

He didn't know Marsianna amoon was a tornado on legs .He never do his research. Lolololol

LOL! He seems to be convinced his house agent gives him girls first, which actually might be the case, problem is just that many girls start their EU porn tours not in Bp anymore because much more work is elsewhere nowadays. But the lier APE ofc still lives in his best Private times end1990! LOL!

[Panorama]

No problem sumacs. Just remember everything you SEE in a woodman "Casting" has been previously discussed, by models, agencies, and Woodman himself. EVERYTHING has been agreed and NOTHING is spontaneous.
All the stories of getting models to sign AFTER a "secret" filming is a lie, that's NOT how things work. END OF STORY.

[Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p]

No problem sumacs. Just remember everything you SEE in a woodman "Casting" has been previously discussed, by models, agencies, and Woodman himself. EVERYTHING has been agreed and NOTHING is spontaneous.
All the stories of getting models to sign AFTER a "secret" filming is a lie, that's NOT how things work. END OF STORY.

Well, isn't that a turn of events...so, what now, topic closed since all is legit and everything has been agreed beforehand between gerbier and the models?
I'm pretty sure Ricardo, Robin Reid, Dan Leal, Lana Rhoades, Juliana Grandi, Rocco Siffredi, Josephine Jackson, Serenity Haze and many many others could educate you a little bit more than what you already should have known being active in this topic for so long now, on how pierre andre nicolas gerbier operates during the pre-shooting e-mail/phone/social media/dinner phase and on set.....
viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&p=637347#p637347
The bottomline and almost sole existence of this topic is that what you said is exactly NOT the way gerbier tends to handle. This has been discussed ad infinitum. So either your account has been hacked or I'm lost as to what in earth you're talking about.

[BlueShadow]

No problem sumacs. Just remember everything you SEE in a woodman "Casting" has been previously discussed, by models, agencies, and Woodman himself. EVERYTHING has been agreed and NOTHING is spontaneous.
All the stories of getting models to sign AFTER a "secret" filming is a lie, that's NOT how things work. END OF STORY.

Well, isn't that a turn of events...so, what now, topic closed since all is legit and everything has been agreed beforehand between gerbier and the models?
I'm pretty sure Ricardo, Robin Reid, Dan Leal, Lana Rhoades, Juliana Grandi, Rocco Siffredi, Josephine Jackson, Serenity Haze and many many others could educate you a little bit more than what you already should have known being active in this topic for so long now, on how pierre andre nicolas gerbier operates during the pre-shooting e-mail/phone/social media/dinner phase and on set.....
viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&p=637347#p637347
The bottomline and almost sole existence of this topic is that what you said is exactly NOT the way gerbier tends to handle. This has been discussed ad infinitum. So either your account has been hacked or I'm lost as to what in earth you're talking about.

The fact is that some ''casting'' takes place according to the rules, EVERYTHING is agreed before, is staged, in others instead push in sneaky way the girls to do more...often with the most naive and exposed...and who then keep quiet. (He is very good at this and at muddying the waters, with complicit agents.)
Others don't realize it until later, like Josephine Jackson where she says it was a bad experience with PW and she didn't know she could say no to certain things. (psychological pressures).

And surely Stacy Bloom will also have her reasons for saying she wants nothing more to do with that man.
http://imgur.com/a/MUMkBOD

[Santorum sundae]

so did he end up posting any clips from the 25 scenes?

[robin_reid]

And surely Stacy Bloom will also have her reasons for saying she wants nothing more to do with that man.
http://imgur.com/a/MUMkBOD

Who knows what this bastard did to her. Like 99% of models, she doesn't want to see him anymore in her life, and the other 1% wants to see him just for the extra money he pays, dinners at expensive restaurants and prostitution.

[Panorama]

Well, isn't that a turn of events...so, what now, topic closed since all is legit and everything has been agreed beforehand between gerbier and the models?
I'm pretty sure Ricardo, Robin Reid, Dan Leal, Lana Rhoades, Juliana Grandi, Rocco Siffredi, Josephine Jackson, Serenity Haze and many many others could educate you a little bit more than what you already should have known being active in this topic for so long now, on how pierre andre nicolas gerbier operates during the pre-shooting e-mail/phone/social media/dinner phase and on set.....
viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&p=637347#p637347
The bottomline and almost sole existence of this topic is that what you said is exactly NOT the way gerbier tends to handle. This has been discussed ad infinitum. So either your account has been hacked or I'm lost as to what in earth you're talking about.

What I'm saying Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p is that my original view of Woodman was based on what I saw with my own eyes and from what I heard from other people. I've spent the last year and a half trying to get a model who has actually BEEN to visit Woodman to tell me honestly what she experienced with him. Up until a few weeks ago, I had absolutely '0' success with this. Although I've always had my assumptions about him there have always been sticking points for me about some of the "castings". Such as why have so many women refused to sign the release forms? Why have so many not let Woodman show their initiations? Why does Woodman appear to have ESP by zooming in on a model just at the right time? Why do so many models with boyfriends suddenly want to fuck a fat, ugly, Frenchman behind their boyfriend's backs? Why have none of those boyfriends kicked the living shit out of Woodman? Why do so many "first-time" models who hate sperm suddenly love Woodmans?? The list goes on and on.
Well, speaking to this model and one she put me in touch with (who he still hasn't shown any clips for by the way) over a period of several days has opened my eyes to what actually goes off at one of his "castings". I applied everything she said to me to some of the questions posed above, and you know what, it all made sense.

Don't get me wrong, Woodman is as bad as everyone makes out, even I've seen his Serenity Haze video where he tries to show how innocent he is, but instead proves the opposite when she tells him to STOP but he just keeps on going.
His bigoted remarks about gays and black people, and of course not forgetting his admiration for Vladimir Putin. I'm sure there are many other instances where Woodman has actually broken the law, and I know that's why he cannot travel to certain countries. But I'm here as an outsider. I'm not in the industry and none of my thoughts or views are polarized by professional jealousy and contempt which I think is quite evident here. Many of the accusations placed at Woodman's doors have NEVER been acted upon by anyone (in the industry) here suggesting that they cannot actually prove anything. Even today on his site he's claiming victory AGAIN over WGCZ (or whoever) Suggesting that the vast majority of what is said ON BOTH FORUMS is inter-business mud-slinging.

All the accusations about models being held against their will, blackmailed, drugged, etc have never gone to court, and Woodman has never been charged. Woodman lives in EUROPE, he could be tried in any European court for all the crimes he has been accused of but has he? No. I'm sure Woodman will immediately post that on his site as another clear victory for himself but he really shouldn't because he wouldn't want his loyal followers to know what I now know about their "Master".
Woodman is a con artist. He's been hiring models for years paying big money to get them to do his castings. They know EVERYTHING about what's going off because it's all in the agreement they sign BEFORE the casting. The models who "refused to sign" the release? It's bullshit, the castings never took place, in the first place, Woodman PAYS THEM to allow him to say that they were "initiated" by him and to keep their mouths shut when talking to guys like me. Even his glorious sister Gabriella, the initiation that she won't allow to be shown because it was a "private thing" between her and Woodman, never happened. You are ALL being lied to Woodman members! You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a very attractive 18-year-old woman is not going to want a nearly 60-year-old, out-of-shape fat guy sweating all over her no matter how good he is at sodomy unless you are being paid BIG MONEY!

So I've changed my tune? Yes, I believed Woodman was an ass-hole for one set of reasons, and now I believe he's an ass-hole for another set because I've found a whole bunch of missing pieces in my puzzle. Does it make him better? No. because he's still a liar, a cheat, and he's been smearing models' good names by implying that he's done things to them that he most certainly HAS NOT. I'm also sure that he has been pressuring and manipulating models for years into doing things that they didn't necessarily want to do. But I'm now more willing to believe that most of the models who I believed were victimized by Woodman were actually more complicit than we were all led to believe.

[Panorama]

so did he end up posting any clips from the 25 scenes?

........ And no he didn't Santorum. But are we surprised?

[BlueShadow]

Well, isn't that a turn of events...so, what now, topic closed since all is legit and everything has been agreed beforehand between gerbier and the models?
I'm pretty sure Ricardo, Robin Reid, Dan Leal, Lana Rhoades, Juliana Grandi, Rocco Siffredi, Josephine Jackson, Serenity Haze and many many others could educate you a little bit more than what you already should have known being active in this topic for so long now, on how pierre andre nicolas gerbier operates during the pre-shooting e-mail/phone/social media/dinner phase and on set.....
viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&p=637347#p637347
The bottomline and almost sole existence of this topic is that what you said is exactly NOT the way gerbier tends to handle. This has been discussed ad infinitum. So either your account has been hacked or I'm lost as to what in earth you're talking about.

What I'm saying Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p is that my original view of Woodman was based on what I saw with my own eyes and from what I heard from other people. I've spent the last year and a half trying to get a model who has actually BEEN to visit Woodman to tell me honestly what she experienced with him. Up until a few weeks ago, I had absolutely '0' success with this. Although I've always had my assumptions about him there have always been sticking points for me about some of the "castings". Such as why have so many women refused to sign the release forms? Why have so many not let Woodman show their initiations? Why does Woodman appear to have ESP by zooming in on a model just at the right time? Why do so many models with boyfriends suddenly want to fuck a fat, ugly, Frenchman behind their boyfriend's backs? Why have none of those boyfriends kicked the living shit out of Woodman? Why do so many "first-time" models who hate sperm suddenly love Woodmans?? The list goes on and on.
Well, speaking to this model and one she put me in touch with (who he still hasn't shown any clips for by the way) over a period of several days has opened my eyes to what actually goes off at one of his "castings". I applied everything she said to me to some of the questions posed above, and you know what, it all made sense.

Don't get me wrong, Woodman is as bad as everyone makes out, even I've seen his Serenity Haze video where he tries to show how innocent he is, but instead proves the opposite when she tells him to STOP but he just keeps on going.
His bigoted remarks about gays and black people, and of course not forgetting his admiration for Vladimir Putin. I'm sure there are many other instances where Woodman has actually broken the law, and I know that's why he cannot travel to certain countries. But I'm here as an outsider. I'm not in the industry and none of my thoughts or views are polarized by professional jealousy and contempt which I think is quite evident here. Many of the accusations placed at Woodman's doors have NEVER been acted upon by anyone (in the industry) here suggesting that they cannot actually prove anything. Even today on his site he's claiming victory AGAIN over WGCZ (or whoever) Suggesting that the vast majority of what is said ON BOTH FORUMS is inter-business mud-slinging.

All the accusations about models being held against their will, blackmailed, drugged, etc have never gone to court, and Woodman has never been charged. Woodman lives in EUROPE, he could be tried in any European court for all the crimes he has been accused of but has he? No. I'm sure Woodman will immediately post that on his site as another clear victory for himself but he really shouldn't because he wouldn't want his loyal followers to know what I now know about their "Master".
Woodman is a con artist. He's been hiring models for years paying big money to get them to do his castings. They know EVERYTHING about what's going off because it's all in the agreement they sign BEFORE the casting. The models who "refused to sign" the release? It's bullshit, the castings never took place, in the first place, Woodman PAYS THEM to allow him to say that they were "initiated" by him and to keep their mouths shut when talking to guys like me. Even his glorious sister Gabriella, the initiation that she won't allow to be shown because it was a "private thing" between her and Woodman, never happened. You are ALL being lied to Woodman members! You don't have to be a rocket scientist to know that a very attractive 18-year-old woman is not going to want a nearly 60-year-old, out-of-shape fat guy sweating all over her no matter how good he is at sodomy unless you are being paid BIG MONEY!

So I've changed my tune? Yes, I believed Woodman was an ass-hole for one set of reasons, and now I believe he's an ass-hole for another set because I've found a whole bunch of missing pieces in my puzzle. Does it make him better? No. because he's still a liar, a cheat, and he's been smearing models' good names by implying that he's done things to them that he most certainly HAS NOT. I'm also sure that he has been pressuring and manipulating models for years into doing things that they didn't necessarily want to do. But I'm now more willing to believe that most of the models who I believed were victimized by Woodman were actually more complicit than we were all led to believe.

I repeat...I don't think all the models who has sent there already know what they have to do...the agency plays right on that.
There are cases then where the agency just says interview, but PW giving a damn about professionalism and ''touches'' them anyway...
(Not to mention then how bash girls who do not accept to work for him etc etc. already shown.)

Ruby Sims herself says she did things she shouldn't have done in the beginning and now regrets it.


You say casting is staged and everything is agreed BEFORE, you are right!
But if you say that EVERY casting is like that, you are wrong.
(And you should focus on those ''girls'', but they will never talk, w'll always say that everything was agreed before, or don't talk. Then they are taught well...and brainwashed good. You see with Irina cage...first she answered that it is normal that she want to do the first anal with her boyfriend...and then after the ''casting'' was released she says something else...they play his game.)

The point is also not only what happens before ... (we only focus on that...) but also the brainwashing that happens AFTER... (as says @DAP-ADDICT) with hours and hours of psychological pressure and putting it into the girls' heads not to do any more anal for other productions...without them being offered an exclusive contract, thus FRAUDING them. All to his advantage.
She confirms this.
(all things that show exactly the brainwashing process of months. She talks like him In fact he said he was in contact with her for months, of course he didn't stopped at the first no... but she don't realize that the only one that gain for what she did it's him and only him...without a contract.)

[BlueShadow]

so did he end up posting any clips from the 25 scenes?

........ And no he didn't Santorum. But are we surprised?

Yep, he released a scene of a model who already had a scene there, a more of the same LOL
For those promised scenes they can keep waiting...

[BlueShadow]

And surely Stacy Bloom will also have her reasons for saying she wants nothing more to do with that man.
http://imgur.com/a/MUMkBOD

Who knows what this bastard did to her. Like 99% of models, she doesn't want to see him anymore in her life, and the other 1% wants to see him just for the extra money he pays, dinners at expensive restaurants and prostitution.

I knew it, that's the problem when you show what the models really think of him... he immediately starts bothering them (don't give your personal number to this control freak, WTF!)

Then... "people sent me this"...suuure, like he didn't see it and get it from here!








Psychopathic why? 'Cause she ask for more money once she saw that he was making much more money from the girl's performance?
Doesn't it get into his head that it's all a job and they are there to make money, as HE HIMSELF makes money from it?
Then am I wrong or does he book the girls if they are successful on the site? And complains when a girl doesn't sell as hoped? Hypocrite as always.


Now an adult model is PSYCHOPATHIC because she wants to make money doing her work:porn LOL

[BlueShadow]

He should think about giving an exclusive contract if he doesn't want models to work with other productions in anal. Since brainwashing doesn't work with everyone!

[BlueShadow]

obviously the usual hysterical wall text after the girl ended the conversation (and she spoke about respect of the privacy...and... he post a private conversation on a public forum... ). There, speaking alone.

PS
Also here he talks about work teeth, because every time we talk about PW and the models there is a work teeth in the middle...hahah always the same modus operandi to buy the models and then hold it against them (be careful, typical of toxic narcissists, they do favors on purpose to blackmail you afterwards and to have the reason)...then he talks about psychopaths...

[ValenciaCF]

Well now he has added another girl to his never ending shit talk list now he have problem with Stacy Bloom.

At first she is nice girl full of kindness according to him it's his words, but now he say she have a brain problem because he want to be her daddy and she won't let him. someone should buy him some tissue for all his tears.

[ValenciaCF]

I like how he pretend he don't know what bad he does. This just proves what kind of person he is. So all this stories about blackmail and causing trouble with girls is true. What gives him right to put the girls real name on the internet without permission??? When things go sour, he wants to go cry on his forum. Be a man. When a girl don't want work for him or anyone who have different opinion on him, he start to write bad things instead take a look at himself.

I think something wrong with his brain and he don't understand. When a girl say she don't want to work with him, it's bot even am insult, just a personal choice but he start to get butthurt and can't accept this news because his ego can't take it, aleays think he can get every girl he want lolololol the level of Ego and narcissism is off the charts!!! it's actually funny to see him get uoset about something thst borml people should not even be upset about.

[ValenciaCF]

Pierre you remember that time you asked why girls come to you first for anal??? I think we need to remind you. Here is proof and the reason!!! You are not the best. You are not even good. You have money! Thats all! You have a small dick! The girls find it easy! Now go cry some more.

[BlueShadow]

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[dap-addict]

Blue and Valencia, our PW thread scriptors reporting every AVLP girls lier APE attacks because she has her own head and her own will, just ask yourself this question for once please: Would it maybe have been enough to leave it with Robins hint and not feed lier APE's EGO by all your posts? Does repeating such blatant lies not also help that lier APE a bit? The more as you repeat even the girls alleged real name? - I know we wage a battle against this sad low-life, I know we have to warn rookie girls not to get entwined into the lier spider web. But please dont feed his EGO all the time, ignore HIM from time to time! Just an idea.

[Panorama]

Would it maybe have been enough to leave it with Robins hint and not feed lier APE's EGO by all your posts?

I think in the old days (in which Woodman is still firmly entrenched) "Any publicity was good publicity". And while there will always be sick individuals who will feed his ego and get off on Woodman's discrimination and complete lack of sympathy toward models which was "ok" in the 80s and 90s', most people today are repulsed by it. However. Woodman's constant inability to remain professional and keep his views about models to himself is slow eroding what little, if any credibility he has left.

[sumacs3]

I was chatting with a guy who was driving a low-powered Porsche and I asked him how fast it could go.

He replied, "It's all about Image."

In 1987 the Porsche 944 was available with a 160 hp engine.

[Panorama]

As we know sumacs, image is everything. Unfortunately for Woodman, his image is one of a man who constantly manoeuvres around promises and buries sensitive subjects in the threads. For 25 years people have been waiting for his old vintage casings and the poor suckers don't even realize that the castings they so desperately want, don't exist.
Notice how he never produced the 25 clips (including the model who said she never worked for him) OR the Liz Rainbow film that would have proved he wasn't a liar?
Yes, Porsche managed to move with the times and still makes cracking good cars that are up to date, fast and reliable. Woodman?........ Well, he's still the old Woodman.

[dap-addict]

Blue or Panorama, do you have an actual list of lier APE fake accounts of his forum?
Forum users he is hiding behind.
Some are easily detectible from language, but some are more difficult, better mimicry so to say.
If its too many to name vulgos A to L would be enough for me.
Thanks!

[Panorama]

Blue or Panorama, do you have an actual list of lier APE fake accounts of his forum?
Forum users he is hiding behind.
Some are easily detectible from language, but some are more difficult, better mimicry so to say.
If its too many to name vulgos A to L would be enough for me.
Thanks!

Hi Dap,
I find that most of the members who have double-digit posts tend to be Woodman pseudonyms particularly when they make reference to this forum. He'll see a post on here and rather than just answering it himself he'll wheel out one of these alter-egos to answer the post that's got on his nerves. The idiot makes it so bloody obvious you can tell a mile away he's talking to himself!
Anyway, I'm sure Blue can reel off a load of them but the ones I'm pretty much 100% confident are Woodman, are, "Isuckdaddy" (why he uses this one god only knows!) "xmanx" "JDR" "Alexquerax" "martin Bunty" "Nicky2021" "Leslie Kaws" "Ian" "PinUpLover". I also have my doubts about "Jean" but that character doesn't report everything that goes off here so I hold judgment on that one..... But if it's not Woodman he's got his nose right up his arse.
Some of those accounts will be Woodman's inner circle I guess (employees) as their terminology and inflexions can be different. Funnily enough, if you get rid of those obvious interlopers absolutely nobody comments about what we're saying over here and just goes to prove that the only person that really gets wound up about us is Woodman himself.

You can shut people up on your own forum Woodman, but you can't stop the truth coming out over here.

That's my list Dap, don't know if anyone has any more to add.

[BlueShadow]

Yes of course, called her after he saw her on LP/AV. Sure, busy doing her anal and DP with GG.
But when she goes to Budapest in September, he can always write sweet angel, tornado with leg...look how she enjoining anal for the first time and bullshit like that.

PS
Save this post.

[poldijk]

I was chatting with a guy who was driving a low-powered Porsche and I asked him how fast it could go.

He replied, "It's all about Image."

In 1987 the Porsche 944 was available with a 160 hp engine.

Hi Sumacs, I like your comparison with the "low-powered Porsche" image, we're surrounded by those guys

out of topic: you didn't reply to the changes I did for you in the UAS (number of hearts).
Do you wnat to give up the erotocutie project? if yes, i'm ok, just tell me

[Panorama]

Yes of course, called her after he saw her on LP/AV. Sure, busy doing her anal and DP with GG.
But when she goes to Budapest in September, he can always write sweet angel, tornado with leg...look how she enjoining anal for the first time and bullshit like that.

PS
Save this post.

Don't worry Blue, I don't think he's going to get his dirty hands on this one.

[BlueShadow]

Yes of course, called her after he saw her on LP/AV. Sure, busy doing her anal and DP with GG.
But when she goes to Budapest in September, he can always write sweet angel, tornado with leg...look how she enjoining anal for the first time and bullshit like that.

PS
Save this post.

Don't worry Blue, I don't think he's going to get his dirty hands on this one.

I don't worry at all, they can do whatever they want. Work is work. At least he can't say the usual crap about LP and brag about first this first that.

[dap-addict]

Yes of course, called her after he saw her on LP/AV.

Impossible! Liar APE sure called Emily Belle long before and sure she also granted her 1st anal to him without payment, just for fun, probably, or at least she didnt do it for the money, no fee had been fixed before, she just really wanted HIM to be first, also because of his secret chinese technique. And: Should she refuse to meet again and still be active on social media, HE will do all to get some of them blocked, IG at least. She'd not be the first victim of such VIP treatment by HIM the biggest EGO under the sun, HIM nobody shall criticize.

[dap-addict]

edit:
Oh, sorry, and the teeth, I forgot the teeth. LOL!
Ofc he gave her his best dentist and payed for her new tweet, at least some of them. And even if not, he proposed that to her and lier APE doenst expect anything in return, just kind words, loyalty, friendship, stay a nice girl.

[sumacs3]

It's Teeth Time!
So here is PW's assessment of Wendy Muller's teeth, with which I agree.
Also the first sentence kind of sums up other aspects of things.
And followed by a pic (not a WaterPik) of Wendy, and her virginal teeth.

Wendy, with her virginal teeth on display

[BlueShadow]

Yes, in the meantime keep the subscription. I almost like how he tease and milk this stupid

[Panorama]

.....That's because some models have different ideas from you Woodman, and yes you should respect her decision....Although judging by the way you've been pestering her that's not going to happen is it?

Utter garbage sumacs. A reputable fashion agency isn't going to send one of their models to see a porn director/producer/actor just on a one off. Wendy would have been with a porn agency and she would have been made aware of what Woodman was wanting to do with her BEFORE she turned up. He (contrary to what he says) DID know what she was there for because he requested her! And the sex turned out great because that's what she was there for and paid to do.

Meanwhile on planet "doxxx"

OK, so let's go through this just one more time for you doxxx.
You're not going to see your precious BTS scenes because Woodman cant show them, either the way they were obtained was questionable in the first place or he never did what he said he did with the models, so there IS nothing to show.
All this "She refused to sign the release" is crap. As mentioned the models sign the release BEFORE they have sex with him. If Woodman has filmed models without signing a release he can be thrown in jail faster than you can say "you lying bastard" He either has releases for the scenes, in which he can freely show them and NOT risk losing members. Or, he doesn't have signed releases and all his stories about what he did with this model and that model are all LIES because they never signed anything to have sex with him.

In summery. All your moaning and complaining is going to fall on deaf ears for another 25 years.

As Blue says.

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