Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sumacs3 » Sun May 15, 2022 2:13 pm

In conclusion, using Wendy Muller as the evidence, and answering the question of whether he breaks the will of girls, I say in her case he really wasn't, and gave her the time of her life. I also have no less respect for either of the participants because of their activities. Bravo to both!
Again, ironically, we could say, "Then he is a liar, because he did not break Wendy's will."
He is no hero to me. He is in no way my idol. But . . .
A not-so-great man can sometimes do great things.
Let's enjoy those things.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Panorama » Sun May 15, 2022 2:47 pm

sumacs3 wrote:A not-so-great man can sometimes do great things.


Again I totally agree with you sumacs, but unfortunately his "great things" are FAR surpassed by his very "bad things" which this thread is all about. And that is why (speaking personally) I cannot enjoy those things. I feel that as well as all the young models he's manipulated and deceived into performing acts that they otherwise wouldn't have done... and are now ashamed of doing, he also let down those people (like myself) who would have loved the opportunity to admire the man.

It appears (to me) however, that Woodman was always going to end up this way, sexually abused children usually end up abusing others in later life. And believe me, although he apparently didn't abuse Wendy he most certainly HAS abused most of his clients and that's why most of the models he's cast will not allow him to show their scenes, and why nobody in the adult industry wants to know him. Normally I would feel sorry for someone who has been abused, but Woodman has been told of his wrong actions for years by others but has done nothing to curb his appalling behaviour, in fact, all he has done is move to a country that will simply tolerate it.

So, although I can totally understand you wanting to simply enjoy his "great" scenes, my sense of empathy and moral standing as a human being will just not support ANYTHING that Woodman has done for the good because it is easily outweighed by the things that he has done that are bad.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sumacs3 » Sun May 15, 2022 2:49 pm

Panorama wrote:. . . I don't think you'll get many others here to agree with you (I have been wrong before!) but yes I'll go ahead and agree with you that he DOES have models that like working with him.

Thanks. And I think one DOES need to "watch the evidence" first!
Someone who definitely was a hero to me was the 1800's American naturalist, writer and philosopher Henry David Thoreau. Emerson wrote of him, "No opposition or ridicule had any weight with him. He coldly and fully stated his opinion without affecting to believe that it was the opinion of the company. It was of no consequence if every one present held the opposite opinion."

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Panorama » Sun May 15, 2022 2:55 pm

Ha, you are right there!
I can't say I've ever heard of David Thoreau (not being a very philosophical person) but I'm sure he was somebody much more worthy of admiration than Pierre Woodman!!

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sumacs3 » Sun May 15, 2022 3:16 pm

Panorama wrote:So, although I can totally understand you wanting to simply enjoy his "great" scenes, my sense of empathy and moral standing as a human being will just not support ANYTHING that Woodman has done for the good because it is easily outweighed by the things that he has done that are bad.

Thanks. I understand your way of thinking and respect you for that. It is a very reasonable way of dealing with Woodman's nastiness.
For me, what I liked was not that one day I got introduced to Woodman, but that one glorious day when Woodman allowing me to be introduced to Wendy.
I think we just have two different thinking styles. There is this dichotomy also when porn fans talk about fapping to the scenes of a deceased pornstar. I am all for it, if she was proud of the work she did and I like the scene. Others sign off immediately upon her death. I often see porn as an art form, even if a very crude one. And I do not see it as disposable, the way many do. In fact, the scenes become even more valuable to me once a pornstar dies. We will never see her or hear her voice again.
I prefer myself to preserve the good amidst the bad, like saving a park from being paved over by its surrounding urbanization.
One somewhat relevant thing is that serial killer Ted Bundy actually worked at a Suicide hotline and is said to have saved lives. He may have had some nasty motives behind it, but in some way, there may be some people who secretly have to admit that someone named Ted Bundy, THE Ted Bundy, actually saved their life or the life of someone they knew. And may even be grateful he existed.
But again, I respect your view of things, too. PW may have staying power, but your approach is to wash away his Staining Power!

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Panorama » Sun May 15, 2022 4:30 pm

I think that we all see things from different points of view and have different views on them. With regards to deceased porn stars, I can't really comment on how I would view their death in sexual terms as the only porn stars I admire are fortunately still with us. What does affect me though is how they were treated in the industry and if it played a significant part in their passing. For years there have been porn stars who have committed suicide as a direct result of their participation in the "adult world". Like PTSD suffered by servicemen in the war, it's only today that we realize and understand the damage that the human brain can suffer unseen. To an extent, I think (maybe someone can correct me?) this is still allowed in the adult industry and still results in needless deaths because nobody simply asked them if they were ok or didn't know when to stop pushing.

I was speaking with a model who had worked with Pierre Woodman and when I asked her whether he pushed her to do things she didn't want to do she didn't want to speak of him individually rather she said: "producers get you to do more and more extreme things". That to me says that she at least was "persuaded" to do things she didn't want to do. Admittedly she didn't SAY, Woodman specifically and sites the industry as a whole, but I also know of other models who have been a "guest" of his for up to 15 hours at a time. They could have left at any time and in many cases I blame the models equally for allowing themselves to be manipulated by him. But the truth is that they shouldn't have been put IN that situation in the first place.

Pierre Woodman has been a producer/actor/director/site owner for well over 30 years. He claims to "know" women. Yet he has "cast" models who have expressed ON CAMERA that they have either some sort of psychological or emotional problems at the time and he has still pushed on with his "initiation". At least 2 of the women appearing with Woodman have since committed suicide. Now other factors have to be taken into account (boyfriends, family life etc) but the fact remains that someone, as experienced as Pierre Woodman, should know better and that his actions can have a significant impact on their lives. Unfortunately, as far as he is concerned (and he's admitted this on camera too) he doesn't care, as long as they're 18 they can make up their own minds what they want to do. That kind of thinking will fortunately NEVER see Woodman working again in western Europe or the United States, but unfortunately won't see him stop working in Hungary.

Although I would never compare Woodman with someone as evil as Ted Bundy (without evidence) I do believe that his type of porn production belongs in the history books, and he should be brought to justice for all the wrongs that he has committed in his career. So yes, given the chance I would wash away every last vestige of this man's memory because he really doesn't deserve to be remembered.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Panorama » Sun May 15, 2022 4:58 pm

Ah, I have your attention again Mr Woodman, I am flattered!

However, I'm afraid I'm going to have to disappoint you. "OKCTwister" has always been an admirer of yours as you'll already know and he's well within his rights to say whatever he wants on this board(even if it is in the wrong thread) And although I said that I would "like to" admire you I can assure you I certainly don't. But as your members will see, my posts are always honest and I give credit where credit is due.

As for the other girls who weren't allowed to post on this forum I spoke with one before she met with you, a lovely lady who was very nice to talk to. I then requested and gave her the opportunity to tell me whether she indeed try to post on this site as I would do it for her, but she didn't know what I was talking about! Why do you think that was Pierre? And just to be straight, she also told me that she had "no plans to appear on your site again". ! ! !

You see, models feel they can talk to me (to a certain degree) because I not only tell the truth, but I'm also honest. So please, before you claim that I tell lies make sure your own house is in order first?

Oh, and while I have your attention. How about meeting me in Cairo this Autumn? I can show you that I don't hide behind a keyboard and you can prove to your members that you can travel ANYWHERE in the world! Come on Pierre, how's about it??
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sumacs3 » Sun May 15, 2022 6:42 pm

Holy Lively Thread, Panorama! Just saw PW's comment(s),too!
Panorama wrote:. . . she said: "producers get you to do more and more extreme things". That to me says that she at least was "persuaded" to do things she didn't want to do. . . At least 2 of the women appearing with Woodman have since committed suicide. Now other factors have to be taken into account (boyfriends, family life etc) but the fact remains that someone, as experienced as Pierre Woodman, should know better and that his actions can have a significant impact on their lives. Unfortunately, as far as he is concerned (and he's admitted this on camera too) he doesn't care, as long as they're 18 they can make up their own minds what they want to do.

Thanks, lots of good points in your post. By the way, I have been waiting years to talk about this stuff. So I am just unbottling things! It is not my life's purpose or anything,

The producer/director tyrant thing has been around a long time. Obviously not applicable to every one of them, nor necessarily each one of them all the time, either. To me, and again Wendy is atypical, but Wendy was more in charge of the scenes than he was at times! Like PW is saying to himself, "This girl knows how to work it. Keep having a good time, dear!" "Do what you like!" I respected that attitude he had, especially in the beautiful second scene. She carried her own take-charge attitude over to some of her 14 scenes as "Roxie" at straponcum.com. At the site, "Karbo," who I think was the webmaster, said in the blog how "Roxie" would choreograph her own scenes. This was about 2010.

Here is a real surprise related to her at straponcum. I recently subscribed to the OF of Mia Mayblack, admittedly to maybe learn more about "Roxie." Mia worked with "Roxie" at straponcum. She said the girls were paid $30 per scene! And not only that, she said they were happy at the time to get it. She agreed that the camerawork was top-notch, too. The site, which I was a member of 4 times, offered videos at 50 fps, (around 2010) and the increased resolution of the new scenes from 540p to 720p coincided with the debut of "Roxie" at that site! (again around 2010) So a Win/Win.

But maybe it wasn't a coincidence after all. I think "Roxie" brings Beauty with her wherever she goes, even if she is starring in Beauty And The Beast! (twice!) She is quite tall, around 5'10", and has "presence." I see this especially in her Breakfast With Strap-on Maids scene at straponcum. Both she and Mia are the two models on the site's introductory trailer (still true today).

I do believe Mia was telling the truth about the money, because she referred to "Roxie" by the same name "Wendy" used when first being interviewed for the PW casting. That name was not "Wendy" nor "Roxie."

Thanks to "Wendy" being set free to be herself on that infamous couch, we eventually had 14 beautiful scenes with "Roxie," and an even greater number of beautiful scenes than that at 18onlygirls.com, where she was "Monica."

That all being said, it would have been nice if "Wendy" had been set free in a less-dramatic way, and by a less-controversial figure. But maybe only a PW would take the chances he did with her that allowed her to be herself. But she, too, as you indicated for other models, later wanted her casting scene removed.

I think an interesting question is whether, if I agreed not to watch the "Wendy" scenes because of PW, I should also not watch any of her subsequent other scenes, because they ultimately derived from the PW scenes, no matter how uncontroversial she herself and subsequent producers/directors might have been.

I am sorry that PW did not turn out to be a man to admire for you. There is this idea that each of us should try to be our own hero, even if it sounds arrogant. I watched his material to meet the girls, and not to meet him, to enjoy the girls, and not to enjoy him. I fully agree of course that anything coerced should not be viewed or supported in any way. I have only purchased the two Wendy scenes at his site. But I would still gladly have paid three times as much as I actually did.

I would like to give a contemporary example of some tricks used by some porn directors. I am an OF subscriber to a well-established pornstar who has been in the business since about 2003. She has more that 1000 paying subs, as best I can determine. She tells me things that are more personal than is typical, as we have corresponded for some time now.

I even bought the yellow dress she wore in one of my favorite recent scenes of hers! Just as a souvenir, and I was the one who made the suggestion. I asked her to add a touch of her favorite perfume, which she did. Kind of neat to have that connection when I open the bag I keep her dress in! Yes. I do crazy things at times.

She has said that if she did not have kids, she would be happy to kill herself. She also had two recent incidents of producers/directors telling her she had to do some "extra" things. Apparently a star can get blacklisted otherwise. She got really angry and in one instance, told me all about it right after she got a phone call from one of those guys. This would be like two days before the scheduled scene.

At the same time, there was another director she says she hates, but she likes the money, and yet tells me about how bad he is. She kept going back, even though (pre-covid) she could easily get work elsewhere. Maybe she at least knows what to expect, something unpleasant being better than something unknown.
She also said that her mother never told her that she loved her.
Her father was living under a bridge.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Sun May 15, 2022 7:16 pm

Is wellknow that Woodman sometimes send the videos to the home and the school of the models (check Timea Bella history) He do it as a revenge or to try to keep the scenes of certains models as exclusives by causing they quit porn because of the trouble it cause with family. And this disgusting action can cause even the suicide of the affected model.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Sun May 15, 2022 9:12 pm

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Panorama » Sun May 15, 2022 10:02 pm

I haven't seen Wendy's casting so commenting on her actions during it would be pointless for me, but if you said that she wanted the "scene removed" I would find it very strange. It's not a matter of whether you should watch Wendy's scenes, if you're happy watching them then knock yourself out nobody is going to chastise you for that. I was talking to another of his members on another forum a few months ago and he like you was very amiable and rational and said that although he understood what I was saying, he didn't care if the models were mistreated, misled, or deceived, they weren't related to him. I know that I'm not going to appeal to everyone. But to those who DO care about someone else's daughter who is/has been manipulated by Woodman, I hope to plant a seed of doubt in their minds that will grow into the thought that "you know what, I think I'll take my money elsewhere".

What Woodman has done in the past is done. None of the ruined careers or lives of those he's destroyed is going to be un-destroyed, so watching them (from tube sites) isn't doing more harm to them. But being a PAYING member of his sit IS. Those paying members are not only giving Pierre justification and validation for what he has done to them, but they are also supporting him to continue to ruin young women's lives. (see: Virginy Lovely) Even one model is one model too many.

Thankfully as you have pointed out, many models are turning to ONLY FANS in order to cut out the middle man and make money for themselves and I applaud them for that. They can do whatever they want to do and you can be happy in the knowledge that whatever they are doing they are doing because they WANT to do it and are not being manipulated by dinosaurs like Pierre Woodman. Although I've never used Only Fans I did once get the opportunity to contact a model I admired (one that turned down Woodman thank god!) and she was the most wonderful and kind person. She gave me autographed pictures of herself and signed my car too!! These women are real human beings, with real feelings, and a sense of self-worth. It's real flesh and blood women like this who we (as men) need to cherish and honour, not allow to fall into the clutches of animals like Pierre Woodman who only care about what they can TAKE from them.

I know the owners of this site will probably not agree with my Only Fans view, but thankfully unlike some forums you are allowed to speak your mind here, and that's why I use this forum to try and convince Woodman members that their admiration for him is very misguided, and their continued support of him is harmful and dangerous.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby sumacs3 » Sun May 15, 2022 11:07 pm

Panorama wrote:"Although I've never used Only Fans I did once get the opportunity to contact a model I admired (one that turned down Woodman thank god!) and she was the most wonderful and kind person. She gave me autographed pictures of herself and signed my car too!! These women are real human beings, with real feelings, and a sense of self-worth. It's real flesh and blood women like this who we (as men) need to cherish and honour, not allow to fall into the clutches of animals like Pierre Woodman who only care about what they can TAKE from them."

Thanks, Panorama.

Good points again. I believe the reason she wanted the video removed was that she was getting married. Also apparently there was an incident where someone sent the video to her husband just to be nasty. I would have to do more research on the dates, but I made a note of this somewhere on paper. I just find her a fascinating person overall, not just the sex part. She has also been a dancer, a pianist, etc. She seems so classy, even when she goes wild.

I agree that if the nasty things said about PW are true, and there seems to be no shortage, we should not support his "career." But I don't regret, as I said, my two purchases (about 5 years ago). I guess Wendy was a glorious outlier, and I clearly needed a bigger sample size!

Regarding OF, the woman I mentioned who first became a pornstar around 2003 is very much like the sweet model you encountered. When she sent me the yellow dress, she also sent me 5 autographed pages of herself, with sweet notes on them. She said I was her Number One fan, which was actually true at the time, because OF has mentioned things like the top fan or top 1% of fans for the month. She also wrote that I was a friend to her. We have talked about family, computers, news items, shared jokes, and given bits of advice to each other. As I live alone, it is nice to chat once in a while, and she never asks for tips, although I will tip $5 or so now and then.

Another cool thing about OF and similar sites is that because I have a face fetish, a certain look can drive me crazy. Maybe 1 in 2000 or 3000 girls. Wendy was exceptional to me for other things: her basic spontaneity and enthusiasm. I remember before the Internet how I wished at high-school graduation there was a yearbook of all the graduating girls in the world, a "universal yearbook" you might say, and in many ways these relatively new types of sites offer this. It is a dream come true. I love ordering customs from girls with the look I love.

Critics often laugh and call us simps, but if you are enjoying yourself, if she is enjoying herself, and you have a bit of extra spending money, why not? Just watch your budget.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Mon May 16, 2022 11:13 am

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wanted to make her happy? How would coercing her into doing more of what she was supposed to do have made her happy? All that umblemished paladin talk, so patetic... (as if seriously a pathological narcissist really can cares about others people) when the girl clearly said she didn't have a great time and REGRETS what she did...make HAPPY what? Who?... The only one he wanted to make happy is himself exploting another girl and to earn money by milking those stupid members...ah yes, money is not the first motivation... if the girls don't care about money and neither does he, since he's a good hearth that only care about making these girls ''happy'', if that's the case then why he doesn't release the ''scene'' for free? LOL




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:D :D What he's talking about? Documentary of what? A girl doing escort service in an hotel room?
In the interview she says she doesn't want to show the upper part of her body, but doesn't have a problem showing more on her IG as well? :D
Then here while showing how happy she is...showing the money she earned from PW after that staged interview. Is all in her highlighted stories, so
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Sure money never has anything to do. Without money is zero.


Here another one not interested in money.
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Here the words of Zaawaadi, that know very well the drill... :D
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It's a business and he pay the girls for acting in his scenes, just stop with this non-sense narcissistic thing...WTF :D :D
he pays them later, he pays them earlier...what's the difference? It just shows the mental issues he has LOL And more the, few, members that, still, believe his fairytales that agency do charity and don't send girls there for the money, girls are not there for the money but for get used without expecting nothing. :rolleyes:
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Postby BlueShadow » Mon May 16, 2022 11:34 am

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How many of these who are at this table he has not paid (or have never been on his payroll?) None.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby ValenciaCF » Mon May 16, 2022 2:54 pm

They are so much his friends and yet he can't even recognize his friend Bruno SX wife is actually Tiffany Doll. I don't known where he see Tiffany Gold :D :D :D
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Postby sumacs3 » Mon May 16, 2022 3:35 pm

ValenciaCF wrote:They are so much his friends and yet he can't even recognize his friend Bruno SX wife is actually Tiffany Doll. I don't known where he see Tiffany Gold :D :D :D

Thanks.
I checked iafd.com. Tiffany Doll has 574 Performer Credits. Tiffany Gold has just 1.
It is true that Tiffany Doll has a page of pics and videos at the site PenthouseGold.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Panorama » Mon May 16, 2022 9:45 pm

Looks like Pierre has had to wheel out one of his alter-egos again to try and convince his members that we only tell lies over here. (Notice the grand total of posts!!) What Pierre needs to know is that we're just telling people how it is. You have the Woodman version, then you have the actual version and that is what we tell you here because nobody is going to delete our posts or cancel our membership for speaking the truth.

Speaking of which.

I don't know if Pierre is trying to admit another strange family confession again with his forum name "isuckdaddy" ??? But he has a few facts that are wrong. Apart from the lies, he claimed that are told here he also says that 90% of the models who have been to him claim that he is a great guy. Well considering that at least that percentage has refused to let him show their castings his figures HAVE to be off. In fact. Just think about that for a moment. Out of ALL the women that Woodman has sodomized over the years, the VAST majority have REFUSED to sign a release to allow him to show their scenes. This is despite being offered HUGE amounts of money by Woodman. How bad must they think he is to do that? Work it out, people.
Models have turned down ridiculous amounts of MONEY for ONE scene. I have spoken to 83 models who have been to see Woodman, 62 of them would not talk about Pierre Woodman AT ALL, 8 of them said they enjoyed working with him, (credit where credit is due) But all of those women were post 2017 strangely enough. 5 implied that "the industry as a whole was bad. The other 8 I never heard back from. The fact that 62 women WOULD NOT speak about Woodman says a lot about how pleased they were working with him. Oh, and all of those women have refused to sign his release, and not one of them ever mentioned Woodman (as far as I have seen) in their careers. (actually 3 of them I don't know if they signed, but their castings have never been seen, so guess for yourself.) That should tell you A LOT about what kind of man he is.

The one thing that has warmed my heart during my quest to stop models from seeing this guy, is the fact that he'll NEVER be able to show the vast majority of his collection, EVER.
And what about you guys? You, the loyal members, paying your subscriptions in the hope of seeing that pre-2017 model who eventually became famous DESPITE seeing Woodman? Well, keep dreaming because that's all they'll be. Also remember, there are a huge amount of women out there that could have had incredible careers but because they visited this man they left the industry never to return and we never got to see their full potential because of him.

He's also claiming that 2 or 3 members of this forum cannot impact his business. Well, a little birdie has told me recently that Pierre's membership is down from this time last year. Pierre himself has had to make what members he has left pay twice (Sylvia Buntarka fiasco for example) to see material their membership should have already paid for on his site! I think his falling membership figures are a direct result of this forum winning the hearts and minds of the few that care about THE MODELS, not Woodman.

So just remember Woodman members, just because Pierre tells you that all is well and you are valued by him, you are only valued because you are giving him money. . . . Most likely for models you are never going to see.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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Postby Panorama » Tue May 17, 2022 11:35 pm

Yes, Pierre, she looks absolutely over the moon. :rolleyes:
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby ValenciaCF » Wed May 18, 2022 10:24 am

Panorama wrote:Yes, Pierre, she looks absolutely over the moon. :rolleyes:

Who the fuck is this guy? :D :D :D lolololo is he serious?
The best place he says. He's living in lalaland.

Anyways he's too late pornbox already has her ass before him. What's he talking about bwahahaha. What a fool.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby ValenciaCF » Wed May 18, 2022 12:22 pm

"She wanted to make a try only" :D :D :)

Bwahahahaha. It's fucking escort business. What bullshit he write. Just another one timer
Who disappear like the rest of his escorts.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Wed May 18, 2022 4:58 pm

ValenciaCF wrote:
Panorama wrote:Yes, Pierre, she looks absolutely over the moon. :rolleyes:

Who the fuck is this guy? :D :D :D lolololo is he serious?
The best place he says. He's living in lalaland.

Anyways he's too late pornbox already has her ass before him. What's he talking about bwahahaha. What a fool.

This model was scout and introduced to business by an italian guy actor, and debuted at gg studio. Brillbabes (as same all other hungarian agencies) did nothing. In any case Pierre would say “thanks brillbabes to informing the call time and address to the model”, because that’s the only thing they did and nothing else. The important job in scouting (which at the end caused that he can shoot her) was made by someone from this platform while he tries everytime to brainwash models telling them bullshits about this platform. I know it very well from models I’ve scout in the past. Bastard and hypocrite.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Wed May 18, 2022 7:59 pm

ValenciaCF wrote:
Panorama wrote:Yes, Pierre, she looks absolutely over the moon. :rolleyes:

Who the fuck is this guy? :D :D :D lolololo is he serious?
The best place he says. He's living in lalaland.

Anyways he's too late pornbox already has her ass before him. What's he talking about bwahahaha. What a fool.

Yes in the best place.
Humility made flesh. :D
I'm pretty sure there's some other good production in Budapest, some other good place that a dark hotel room.

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Good that he keep book models that did and do LP/AV. Continues to deny the fact that for him LP is not a good reference and if LP is on a model's CV for production is ''no way''. :rolleyes:
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p » Wed May 18, 2022 8:10 pm

robin_reid wrote:The important job in scouting (which at the end caused that he can shoot her) was made by someone from this platform while he tries everytime to brainwash models telling them bullshits about this platform. I know it very well from models I’ve scout in the past. Bastard and hypocrite.


By the way, not only models, he also seems to be on a personal vendetta to destroy you with dirty games!
Lots of threats/intimidation by pierre andre nicolas gerbier towards people here when I just checked his shitty forum looking for other information!

PIERRE ANDRE NICOLAS GERBIER....NOT SO "CLEAN" EITHER.
Always accusing others of things he does himself. Biggest snake in the porn business.

Oh, nooooo, pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) aka hercule poirot on the hunt!!!! :D

Too funny!

Inspector gadget is trying to find dirt on Robin Reid and is wondering why he hasn't heard anything from the Spanish autorities regarding the info he send them...
It's time for Robin Reid to send some inside information to the French/Hungaria authorities to get this guy behind bars.

This lobotomized micro brain cockroach with the name pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) has got a brain meltdown once again!
Using his fake troll account JEAN to ask a question and then answering it with his main account PIERRE WOODMAN.

100% schizophrenic!!!


But what can you expect from a guy who's grandfather showed him all about the (Chinese) anal sex tactic when little pierre andre nicolas gerbier was only 7 years old!!!! Depending on HOW he showed little pierre andre nicolas, you will get locked up for pedophelia for things like that!

I wonder if he will also teach his little son about the pleasures of anal sex when he turns 7 years old???!!! You got to learn the new generation wonderful stuff like that right??
What would wifey Szofi would say about that?! If she has a brain, she would call the cops to get handcuffs on this motherfucker and help to put him behind bars if that happens!! Or what would Pierre andre nicolas gerbier say when he finds out that the papa of Szofi or his own papa would have this little bugger on grandpa's lap and tell him/show him about the screts of anal sex at 7 years old???? Is that okay with you Pierre?????

What a lobotomized fool!

Fill out the term "clean" on his site and the ONLY guys who uses the word "clean" when NOT talking about hygiene is.... you guessed it right, JEAN AND PIERRE WOODMAN.

This schizophrenic guy is simply hilarious that he keeps thinking: "when I deny the allegations of me using duplicate toll accounts then it doesn't exist!!!!" :D :D Sooooo predictable that it becomes laughable!!:D :D

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p » Wed May 18, 2022 9:56 pm

This lobotomized part-time father is SOOOOOO predictable on his schizophrenic forum with millions of fake troll accounts operated by pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) HIMSELF!

CLASSIC Pierre andre nicolas gerbier modus operandi.

Opening a topic with a fake troll account to destoy/intimidate/bully an enemy/competitor because he does not have the balls to do it with his main account pierre woodman. 100% pussy bitch!

This time opening a topic about his former partner in crime juliana grandi/juls agency. After she broke the friendship because SHE got tired of his TOXIC narcisstic behavior he is on a personal vendetta to destroy her any way he can.

This time he can't help himself to gloat at the fact that juliana grandi allegedly was arrested. She is partying on her [spam] with lots of real friends all these weeks, so not sure if it's slander again by pierre andre nicolas gerbier (he didn't show proof!)

He used a fake troll account to make a big drama topic called:
"Juliana Grandi arrested for drug possession"
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It's almost with 100% certainty that pierre andre nicolas gerbier opened that topic with his fake account and while writing that message he was laughing all the way through like beavis:
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Then, as always, he is the first to respond to the topic starter with his main account pierre woodman, ACTING all innoncence and "defending" the one he humiliated/bullied/intimidated with his fake account.

What a scarry little bitch snake!

Another well know tactic of pierre andre nicolas gerbier:
Miraculously, there is ALWAYS "someone", some good samaritan, who "magically" SENDS him an e-mail with some kind of slander that he can use to go after his enemies/competitors that keeps his sick lobotomized melted brain occupied at that point....

MAGICALLY. Because as we learned, IT SIMPLY ISN'T POSSIBLE as pierre andre nicolas gerbier does NOT have any real friends in this world who would CARE enough to help him deal with HIS fights against HIS enemies/competitors. FANS SIMPLY DO NOT CARE. THEY ONLY CARE ABOUT PORN. And even for porn they will be let down millions of times with fake promises to upload, All in the fake name of his fight against pirates. As his alter ego JEAN said. The real reason for the cut and non-uploading of hundreds of castings is because that way he can find a potential buyer for his total body of work and get 20 million euros knowing that the buyer will still have years of material to upload LOL. DREAM ON. Nobody is going to pay explosive stuff that can potentially put them behind bars for non-consent /#metoo issues.

Anyway, you wanna know pierre andre nicolas gerbier's vile opinion about his enemies like Juliana grandi???? Search for his fake avatars!! Simple as that!!!

Look up the message where the main account says "someone" send him something.....

And of course, this "bradpyth" name he used for his fake troll account TYPICALLY shows us how pierre andre nicolas gerbier sees himself when he looks in the mirror. THAT'S 100% in line with his narcisstic personality!!

Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) about juliana grandi using his fake troll account "bradpyth":

Click on the posts to read the vile text about juliana grandi by pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman)....and then this toxic snake wonder why everybody quits their "friendship" indefinitely:
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Wed May 18, 2022 9:58 pm

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Is this the same what happened to a Finnish girl that was scouted by you and who did her first scene for you?
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She went to pierre andre nicolas gerbier (artist name: pierre woodman) crappy hotel room and he invited her to dinner and then "all of a sudden" her career pretty much stopped.
I just read on the front page of pierre andre nicolas gerbier's forum that she is back in porn. Does she not speak with you any longer to make scenes for LP after that dinner with Gerbier?

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Take in mind that when I scouted and shot this model in Spain in 2018 I was not working for LP. Then she went to PW thru some agency I think, and her career as it usually happens when models go to Woodman, was interrumped and blocked.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby ValenciaCF » Thu May 19, 2022 4:14 pm

I thought he said LP was a bad reference for him??? So please tell us Woodman, why you taking girls like Crystal Ruchi, Moona Snake, Baby Kitten etc who already got slammed in their ass at LP??? Looks like your business is too stale of you keep taking leftovers from LP and cam't find your own models. Then bluffing everyone you get new ones when you do escort with them amd they disappear :D :D :D

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby ValenciaCF » Thu May 19, 2022 5:57 pm

I think this pretty much sums up Woodman in a nutshell.... He is so jealous and full of hatred for his competitors and ex friends, that he can't stop but show how mad he actually is.

So this was in Kai Taylors thread. Pretending he was a top friends with Kai and throwing shade at Rocco, who recently did an interview with Xbiz and was the first to find out about Kai. Just imagine Woodman is so jealous, he even have to talk shit about Rocco for doing an interview about Kai.

Well Woodman, if Kai was such a top friend, then why the fuck didn't you do an interview yourself????? Because I tell you why. You are irrelevant in this business and nobody care about you. You just want attention that nobody want to give you. Thats why you don't even go to awards ceremonies. Nobody likes you or wants you there lolololol..So you try make yourself feel important.

Now about Rocco, he was Kai's mentor!!! Kai entered the business because of Rocco and you literally can't stand it in your blood :D :D :D it makes me happy to see you cringe about this . Poor daddy is sad because Kai didn't look up to him but Rocco instead. I think Kai had problems with many people but more importantly he amd Rocco were cool and even gave him the lead role in Roccos movie. So don't be jealous and talk rubbish about Rocco. Because you are the biggest snake of all pretending you have friends when you don't. You bitching on your forum about Rocco just shows that you have no class. Rocco doesn't talk about you but you nees to talk about him to make yourself feel special. Yoi don't even belong in the same sentence as Rocco.


You can get mad all you want but everybody knows you act like a white knight who do no wrong but you are the biggest instigator in the whole of porn industry ,causing trouble with everyone. Don't pretend that other people only do the bad things. You forget all the bad things you did with Julsmodels and how sneaky and pathetic you really are. So don't talk bullshit on your forum. Grow up you fool!
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Thu May 19, 2022 8:02 pm

Even when people dies this monster is not able to shut up and stop telling lies and bullshits about others over and over… non stop...

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu May 19, 2022 8:47 pm

ValenciaCF wrote:I think this pretty much sums up Woodman in a nutshell.... He is so jealous and full of hatred for his competitors and ex friends, that he can't stop but show how mad he actually is.

So this was in Kai Taylors thread. Pretending he was a top friends with Kai and throwing shade at Rocco, who recently did an interview with Xbiz and was the first to find out about Kai. Just imagine Woodman is so jealous, he even have to talk shit about Rocco for doing an interview about Kai.

Well Woodman, if Kai was such a top friend, then why the fuck didn't you do an interview yourself????? Because I tell you why. You are irrelevant in this business and nobody care about you. You just want attention that nobody want to give you. Thats why you don't even go to awards ceremonies. Nobody likes you or wants you there lolololol..So you try make yourself feel important.

Now about Rocco, he was Kai's mentor!!! Kai entered the business because of Rocco and you literally can't stand it in your blood :D :D :D it makes me happy to see you cringe about this . Poor daddy is sad because Kai didn't look up to him but Rocco instead. I think Kai had problems with many people but more importantly he amd Rocco were cool and even gave him the lead role in Roccos movie. So don't be jealous and talk rubbish about Rocco. Because you are the biggest snake of all pretending you have friends when you don't. You bitching on your forum about Rocco just shows that you have no class. Rocco doesn't talk about you but you nees to talk about him to make yourself feel special. Yoi don't even belong in the same sentence as Rocco.


You can get mad all you want but everybody knows you act like a white knight who do no wrong but you are the biggest instigator in the whole of porn industry ,causing trouble with everyone. Don't pretend that other people only do the bad things. You forget all the bad things you did with Julsmodels and how sneaky and pathetic you really are. So don't talk bullshit on your forum. Grow up you fool!

He didn't say anything wrong, then he says he had a difficult character but a good heart, then of course if you have known a person for so many years you feel sad about his death. But PW is such a narcissistic fool that he has to speak bad of those who are superior to him. The only one who fakes emotions (a pathological narcist cannot feel real feelings) and takes advantage of any situation to elevate himself above others is PW, believe me.
Obviously saying those things now that the person is gone...
And by the way it is known that PW did not speak well of Kai Taylor long ago.... (as he always does...so he better shut up, but he can't...better that way after all....)
But let's end it here.


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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu May 19, 2022 8:48 pm

robin_reid wrote:Even when people dies this monster is not able to shut up and stop telling lies and bullshits about others over and over… non stop...

just a sneaky person, we know. Himself say this, so...
In front of Rocco he can't.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Thu May 19, 2022 11:52 pm

Yes sure, she discovered something new in sex...
and by the way, I see that he's booking a lot of models who have already done Legalporno/Analvids (Miriam More, Miss Olivia, Moona Snake, Cristal Richi, not to mention the ones from other months :rolleyes: a lot of ''''first times'''' it seems :D ) which is not a "good reference for him." :D :D
But in the meantime seems they are the ones that are most requested in Brillbabes. I follow their profiles and they works almost every day,some even several scenes in one day. Strange for girls who have on their CV LP= no way, huh? :rolleyes:
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby Panorama » Fri May 20, 2022 12:03 am

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Blue, the best thing about this post by "Sasik Pur" (Pierre Woodman) is the fact that he accuses me of not having a nice word to say about Kai Taylor. I didn't even know who the man was! As I've said, god knows how many times before I'M NOT IN THE PORN INDUSTRY! My question was about a mis-spelling of this person's name and a query as to whether the two named people were the same. There was absolutely nothing disrespectful about my comment.
However, if Pierre would like to compare insensitivities his quote about his "friend"
" his last words at the end was : " I LOVE YOU PIERRE " Bye Bye ...

This was extremely insensitive, as this remark was made by Woodman in order to make him look good for his members and was NOT a true reflection on his relationship with his supposed "friend". If Kai was indeed such a good and valued friend of Woodman he would have kept this last communication between himself and the deceased respectfully to himself.

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Fri May 20, 2022 12:15 am

Panorama wrote:" his last words at the end was : " I LOVE YOU PIERRE " Bye Bye ...

This is a big bullshit and it means a lot about how huge is his level of psychopathy and a total disrespect to Kay

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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby BlueShadow » Fri May 20, 2022 12:54 am

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This was extremely insensitive, as this remark was made by Woodman in order to make him look good for his members and was NOT a true reflection on his relationship with his supposed "friend". If Kai was indeed such a good and valued friend of Woodman he would have kept this last communication between himself and the deceased respectfully to himself.

I said it, as a pathological narcissist person cannot have real feelings for anyone but himself.
He said he was great friends with Rocco, Juliana Grandi etc. as well, but that didn't stop him from saying bad things about them and making accusations publicly on the forum, while they don't talk about him. Only a blind man does not see the reality of the situation, please...
There is nothing to add. Also about Kai Taylor let's end it here, there is no need to continue.
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Re: Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

Postby robin_reid » Fri May 20, 2022 3:02 am

Panorama wrote:Pierre himself has had to make what members he has left pay twice (Sylvia Buntarka fiasco for example) to see material their membership should have already paid for on his site!

The whole Buntarka story smelled bad from the start...

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