Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[Panorama]

Yes dap, I've never been here before and have absolutely nothing to do with the industry. I'm not actually interested in PW either. I was charting the career of Eufrat Mai and noticed that she had a casting with him in 2006. I contacted him on another forum that I can remember the name of now and asked him about her work with him, he seemed like a really nice guy especially when he said he was "really good friends with her". Anyway, I joined his site to find out more about her work there and the other models that were in the cast of Xcalibur. While I did so some things started not adding up about what went off that evening/morning while she was there. Against my better judgement, I watched a whole heap of movies (casting isn't my genre) to see if he was as bad as people had been saying (on his own forum) and found that although he appears very nice, he isn't actually the guy I thought he was. I try to see the best in everyone but the more I saw and read, the more I didn't like.

[BlueShadow]

I agree with you to some extent Eloise. As I said back in my introduction back on page 32, some of the name-calling and unproven evidence not only here but on other forums doesn't do anything to harm PW it just makes threads like this unbelievable, which is not what the guys here are trying to achieve I'm sure. Like I said back in my aforementioned introduction, I don't think PW is a rapist or has done anything (as far as I know) illegal. But he's certainly not what he makes out to be, and he's certainly not a nice guy. From my very short investigation into him that I've done, I was able to establish that he's not a nice guy, as I'm sure others can do so also. The thread needs someone who has worked with him or has strong evidence that can stand up and say he does this, or he does that. The only hard evidence that I've found in either his own words which cannot be denied or actions are :
1) He refers to black people as N###ers. Not a great standpoint from someone who says's they aren't racist. (Melissa A video)
2) He gives very rough hard sex including anal to Virgins (if they are indeed virgins)
3) He swears at girls in French when he knows they can't understand him.
4) He coerces women into cheating on their boyfriends/husbands.
5) The "Jitka" story - just the whole thing is wrong.
All the above mentioned I can stand behind, and tell me to a greater extent this is not a nice guy. But I think his "sister" Gabrielle Techeken is just as much to blame and nowhere near as chastised because she's been the beauty hiding in front of the beast and helping to pull girls into his web.
Finally, the girls themselves must take responsibility for their own actions, they can just leave as I think Bijou did and a few others, but most don't. But yes, I agree with you, this thread so far - from an outsiders point of view makes the notoriety of PW more attractive than any "real" evidence that is found here.

Just my thought.

No one says he's a rapist (even if also psychological pressure is a violence) or whatever. But we show the kind of toxic character he is...simply, as you also said, showing words that HE HIMSELF says as evidence, then everyone can have their own opinion.
His behaviors with the models, the agencies, his borderline way of working (in USA he could never work with this method (if not with some of his friend that has several accounts of sexual abuse, trafficking, and employment standards violations (Derek Hay), here he knows he is protected by some agencies that allow him to behave like he is the boss of porn and foment the character, they know he is toxic and egocentric, they accept this for his money. The agencies are the ones who give to him the freedom to do this. The most ridiculous thing (and shows how theyare greedy) is that one of his best partners (Brilldogs) is the one that most of all complained about his work methods a few years ago XD is all provable when you want ...) the narcissist, cheap manipulator and paranoid that he is seems clear to me.

I have shown over and over again how he has no qualms about exposing girls and/or hitting them if they don't accept his methods. I have shown over and over again how he foments hatred towards his competitors on the propaganda forum (and says that it is the others who foment hatred, when he is no better...)
Here is an example of his professionalism and how he behave with them and respects agencies and models: (and if these things are not calculated do not complain ... the only thing they can say is: we are on page 33 ... and who gives a fuck?) XD

https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=104&t=30469&p=466224#p463271

All his words, not mine, nor made up. It's not our fault that we get these ideas...because of things he says. XD

So, again, I still don't know how some agencies can still trust him, they are obviously more greedy than you think.



And if I show you all the hate fomented towards PornoDan, Rocco Siffredi, Misha Cross, Ginebra Bellucci (and other models) Juliana Grandi, LP/AV in one post you will be scared... Then he complains on social media when they incite hatred towards him... when he does it towards his competitors it doesn't count it seems...the white paladin... XD

He doesn't have real friends in the business, he has friends only when he can exploit them...and when they can exploit him (is not one-way, it must be said). That's all.




PS
And about her assistant...I said it's also because of her (without naming her, which you did, but your choice) if he can show up as what he's not and gain the trust of these newbies who know nothing about how the business works. Her, the money, and Brilldogs.
On his own, he can't do anything in this business.

[BlueShadow]

Most of them regretted to have been in contact with him, years later they realized how they were actually manipulated and used (Just look what he say about Emma Hix, as if it were a boast... also confirms that she was sent there (thanks to her pimp friend) without having received job details. Try that now in the USA... In Budapest...ok...there are clowns just looking for money.... nothing we can do about it... a direct example... is also that video of Josephine Jackson posted in these pages, that speaks clearly...

[BlueShadow]

Hi
Is there someone here who worked for PW?

Is this a troll question?!
You can see some here are very well informed, publishing evidence only insiders can know. There was more of that from first hand but it got deleted I see now. Might be due to lawsuits by the big EGO white knight of porn.
But again, if only 1 girl doenst fall into his lier APE spider web, mission is completed.
And right, girls are responsible for themselves, but if they can't even trust their agent anymore what a fucked up place must former Europorn capital Budapest (1990-2000) have become meanwhile.

+1
The thing is, we're not talking about PW just for the sake of it, but also everything around it that's sick (pretty borderline...)
The girls can decide...ok...but it's easy to say this without being under psychological pressure...without knowing how the business works, the girls are there for the money, for the work. But if even a smart girl like Josephine Jackson was scared, manipulated and couldn't say no to the DP, imagine all the other newbies sent there. The problem is upstream...who sends them there and what they tell them... Apart from the economic agreement that the 'producer' and the agency have, behind the girls' backs....

[BlueShadow]

And as a final note. Judging from what Brilldogs said about him to now that he's become best partner it must be really big money to fold sheepishly in front of him every time.

[BlueShadow]

All the above mentioned I can stand behind, and tell me to a greater extent this is not a nice guy. But I think his "sister" Gabrielle Techeken is just as much to blame and nowhere near as chastised because she's been the beauty hiding in front of the beast and helping to pull girls into his web.

Just my thought.

And here's an example of what you're saying...she always talks about her, never about him.
I can imagine the advice she must have given to her.... (obviously in favor of her boss, I am sure she is not a bad person, and I think she really cares about some girls...but what can you do? It's work. She knows knows exactly what her job is. So I can blame her until some point.)

[BlueShadow]

They keep making requests. XD They still haven't figured out how it works. His own fun comes first.

How many scenes did he release with that girl? Two. An anal and a DP just to make sure he was the first one on the net. How many 'scenes' he did? 5-6? All for his own pleasure the rest all teasing and propaganda for the members. Fact.

He fucks the sluts with their money XD
This is one of the few points where I can't blame him. In fact, I almost have esteem for how he tricks those people.

[viewer2]

BlueShadow, don't take me wrong, I'm not saying this against you, but ... your three last posts are very difficult to understand, especially for an outsider.

[BlueShadow]

1# post: Brilldogs, agency in BP, publicly criticized (on eurobabeindex) PW's way of working years ago... Now they (Brilldogs!) is his (PW!) best partner. What money can do...


2# the post I quoted is more than enough for reference.
Mia Trejsi's post on IG (which I have posted) shows exactly how her assistance plays a key role.

3# what is there to explain? In the screen you can see the name of the model they (the members! on his (PW!) forum) asking about...it is clear that I am referring to the scenes released on that model.
Just check it, only 2 scenes released, the rest is just teasing for catching members.

[Pierrethebig]

Just my points,
1.He is exposing WGCZ company being Czech government friendly,just because WGCZ when was registered in Czech Republic paid a big amount of taxes.
Curious in which country where he lived, worked, doing his castings he paid or he is paying any taxes?
2.As blueshadow mentioned before, he is first to expose others models, competitors, coworkers, agents, in great public in his propaganda forum, incite hate.But he is first to complain when those people are acting the same way.
3.He is not only censoring your posts in his forum, he is changing their context, falsifying them to be in his favor.More of it, he is using those banned accounts doing new comments later to keep in continuity the image he created. Finally he says about this forum is a circus forum, when in true that one is a totally fake one.

[viewer2]

1# post: Brilldogs, agency in BP, publicly criticized (on eurobabeindex) PW's way of working years ago... Now they (Brilldogs!) is his (PW!) best partner. What money can do...


2# the post I quoted is more than enough for reference.
Mia Trejsi's post on IG (which I have posted) shows exactly how her assistance plays a key role.

3# what is there to explain? In the screen you can see the name of the model they (the members! on his (PW!) forum) asking about...it is clear that I am referring to the scenes released on that model.
Just check it, only 2 scenes released, the rest is just teasing for catching members.

BlueShadow, don't take it personnally.
I just try to be constructive.
For someone who arrived here yesterday such as Panorama, even "Brilldogs" might not be obvious to understand.
I read this thread every day and even I had to re-read the 3 last posts twice before I got your point.

I'm not criticizing you, it's just an observation.

[Panorama]

Hi Blue & viewer2,
I read all that BlueShadow posted this morning and couldn't disagree with anything he wrote. Although I don't necessarily agree with your view about his "sister" in that she's not a bad person. Someone who can stand by and say nothing, or even help that person co-herse women to perform is worse. I believe like you say that he shows very clear signs of being narcissistic, which is something he cannot help. (if you're a narcissist, you're a narcissist.) But his "sister" seems to be a normal regular thinking woman who could have just walked away. The only thing that I would respect her for is if she was the one who told the girls who were filmed and not told about it (Eufrat being one of them) that they could refuse to sign the release to show their "initiations".
I say this because when his "sister" was interviewed she said that she didn't want her own casting showing because it was "private and not for public viewing". I know of at least three other women (including Eufrat) who used the EXACT same wording when they were asked by PW why they wouldn't sign the release. Maybe she knew the only way to really hurt him was to hit him in the pocket and his ego by telling them to do this. That would be the only respect I would have for her.
On the flip side, if it was indeed PW who told them that they could refuse (I'm sorry I don't know if it's a legal requirement to do that for managers?) then although I still don't like the guy, I'd have to at least give him that.

I'm not planning on being here long, as like I said if it were not for my investigation into Eufrat I wouldn't even know or care about PW. But I just want to ask robin_reid a question, well two actually and don't blast me please because I'm not in the know as you know. But I read the Macarena Lewis link that BlueShadow posted and you talked about sending girls to PW. Now you say that you send them just so they can earn money and you fully warn them about what he's like. But wouldn't the simple thing to do be to just not send them? From an outsiders point of view, it sounds like you're helping to perpetuate the situation doing that. Surely agents should just boycott PW on mass?? I think I know what the answer will be and it's probably got something to do with money, but unfortunately, there are young women lives at stake and no amount of money is worth a young lasses mind or body surely? It seems to me this major point (a human life) is completely forgotten about. I hear words like "well she got fucked by two guys, five guys, and she was ok with it, but wouldn't let the guy piss in her mouth" It's like their commodities or things to be used not human beings.

Like I say, I know nothing and shouldn't even comment, but it's just a shock to me how the whole porn system works. I'm not having a go, it just doesn't make sense to me. The second question if you haven't already blacklisted me for being a prick is. When Eufrat did her casting back in 2006 (in your view) would her agent have told her beforehand that she was probably going to end up with a dick in her backside before she left, or is it more likely that they just sent her without a clue? Is/was there a standard practice that they had to adhere to especially seeing how they couldn't get 'CastingX' in Czech at the time so she would have been clueless?

Sorry for the rant guys.

[Pineapples Studio]

You are describing the way Woodman operates, not necessarily the industry as a whole. Agents enable him and are part of the problem, but some agents are good and some are not, so there is no uniform standard of behavior across the board. It is most accurate to say that porn, as an activity which operates on the “fringes” of mainstream society, attracts bad people at a higher-than-usual rate, but not everyone in porn is bad, and (I would venture to say) most of us are not.

I say this because when his "sister" was interviewed she said that she didn't want her own casting showing because it was "private and not for public viewing". I know of at least three other women (including Eufrat) who used the EXACT same wording when they were asked by PW why they wouldn't sign the release. Maybe she knew the only way to really hurt him was to hit him in the pocket and his ego by telling them to do this. That would be the only respect I would have for her.
On the flip side, if it was indeed PW who told them that they could refuse (I'm sorry I don't know if it's a legal requirement to do that for managers?) then although I still don't like the guy, I'd have to at least give him that.

I wouldn’t give him much for this.

It is more than likely a legal concern. He doesn’t want to get sued into oblivion by angry ex-models.

[BlueShadow]

You are describing the way Woodman operates, not necessarily the industry as a whole. Agents enable him and are part of the problem, but some agents are good and some are not, so there is no uniform standard of behavior across the board. It is most accurate to say that porn, as an activity which operates on the “fringes” of mainstream society, attracts bad people at a higher-than-usual rate, but not everyone in porn is bad, and (I would venture to say) most of us are not.

I say this because when his "sister" was interviewed she said that she didn't want her own casting showing because it was "private and not for public viewing". I know of at least three other women (including Eufrat) who used the EXACT same wording when they were asked by PW why they wouldn't sign the release. Maybe she knew the only way to really hurt him was to hit him in the pocket and his ego by telling them to do this. That would be the only respect I would have for her.
On the flip side, if it was indeed PW who told them that they could refuse (I'm sorry I don't know if it's a legal requirement to do that for managers?) then although I still don't like the guy, I'd have to at least give him that.

I wouldn’t give him much for this.

It is more than likely a legal concern. He doesn’t want to get sued into oblivion by angry ex-models.

You are totally right Mister Ananas, I like the way you tell the truth and he keeps blathering the same things on that propaganda forum.



There is only one reason if a model decides not to show what happened in those cheap hotel rooms...shame, feeling of having been used, something to hide...Not for positive things...

And then...respect...respect for the person?
Where is the model release for what he showed here? Of a ''''scene'''' that is not online....I wonder why...maybe he doesn't have a model release? Did she have a contract with an agency and was not available for anal? Just asking...

(and this is just one of the many...called Dumb by him...he is a gentleman, And watch him make fun of her in a public forum. This girl will also have family, friends...not just PW...I wonder what some girls who think he is a good human being and nice what they would think...a serious agency should show this, before sending these newbies there...and tell them they could be exposed at any time...well, if they don't do it...someone else should....)
He doesn't waste time exposing a model for his ego or to defend himself, he has respect for the person at convenience... who is the coward? Clown.





PS
Oh, and coincidentally he actually exposed and denigrated a model who was from Brillbabes...(Even bragging that she was their ''exclusive'' model. As you can see...it's something he always did, not only with Julmodel, how much professionalism and respect he has...the white paladin) his big partner now...thanks to his money. Greedy stupid agency XD
And if you show these things to Brilldogs they remain silent...we have cowards (Brilldogs) and a clown (PW).

[BlueShadow]

Obviously now it is more than happy if the Brillbabes models are not available for anal, although they have already done in the first scene...who knows how much he pays them...
...the best circus is in Budapest.

[robin_reid]

Probably they are threatened or blackmailed by him because this is what his whole life is about, that’s why they obey to him in everything and are accomplices of those unethical, unprofessional and even delictive (with the key in the lock) practices that they publicy dennounced 11 years ago.

[BlueShadow]

Systematically when a girl does a tour in Budapest they send her there first for a paid ''interview''. There is a system behind... I wonder how much Brillbabes really earns in this. Surely the last of the chain are the models.

I think it's all about money...he pays them well for the ''services'', and there must be behind some other source of secondary income for them...because otherwise it doesn't have sense to keep sending there the new sluts in BP for some first anal/DP...when there are many more high level productions around, also as a brand image.
Thank God I don't need to kiss anyone's ass for a living.

[BlueShadow]

PS
And when a girl refuse to meet PW (best client of that agency) is subjected to attacks and denigration on his forum by him like it was nothing.

[BlueShadow]

Oh,and these are facts. I'm not here to post every time the screen to confirm this (they are already in the topic), I apologize to 'outsiders'.

[scarletxxx666]

his name is woodman

wood can mean erection right????

woodman

the erection man

haha

[Rg.thegreatking]

Pierre woodman will go hell one day

[BlueShadow]

his name is woodman

wood can mean erection right????

woodman

the erection man

haha

In recent years more Limpman.

This is a full erection XD

[Panorama]

Ah, right I guess Pierre can't post on this board?

I've just seen that you have replied to my post on the Eufrat thread on your forum! Well, thank you for answering my post, although you don't need to be all hysterical in answering me I won't be calling names I'm just seeking answers.
Just for the record, I don't believe you are friends with Eufrat. I know the other guy on your form thought you were, and all your followers probably do, but when she retired, your contact details were the first to go in the 'deleted' bin. Now I'm not connected to the "casting" industry so you'll have to forgive me for my lack of knowledge. But if you had to tell Eufrat that her "initiation" (and I mean sexual intercourse) was filmed, why did she not "appreciate being filmed that day at all?"
It might be a simple misunderstanding of mine but I took that statement as to mean that she didn't know you filmed that part of her casting. You said to another member that you don't tell them that that specific part of the casting is filmed because "This is what makes it different". Are you saying that girls are given a form that says THIS CASTING IS FILMED but it means the casting AND the initiation?
Also, you said that Jan "Didn't know anything about what we did" So are you saying you had sex with another man's girlfriend behind his back? If that's a yes, you think that's ok? Also, if you cared so much about Eufrat, why were you not there to make sure she was able to do her anal scene as comfortably as possible? If you needed to show her your "special technique" at the casting, why not on the film set?

As you can see, no swearing, no name-calling. Just questions that I'd be really interested in hearing your answers. Although I don't like you or your "sister", I can give credit where credit is due, you might not have got that on this forum from people, but like I said I'm not from the industry. Please reply sensibly.

I attach posts for your convenience.

[rocchardchap]

haha this thread is so informational, been checking her out for a bit now thanks to you guys...she's cute as hell with a cuter body.

PW is the type of guy that would be so opposed to what his daughter is doing, empowering women with her yoga classes while being a strong feminist herself. She must despise him for all the vile things he's done to girls who could be her little sisters or nieces...

[Pineapples Studio]

Please stop posting family stuff. Remember what I said about this thread going too far on a fairly regular basis? This is the epitome of going too far.

[Panorama]

I totally agree. I want to engage Pierre in constructive discussion, not involve his completely innocent family!! Please remove those posts!!!

[xxx]

Let's leave the daughter, baby, gf, and generally "innocent" people out of this.

[Panorama]

Brilliant, I was hoping to get some sensible answers out of Pierre, and some idiot went and did that.

[Pineapples Studio]

Well, first of all, stop hoping for anything sensible from PW. He doesn’t know the meaning of the word.

Now he is posting about this on his forum, as I knew he would, and trying to equate the actions of one forum troll with the organization that hosts the entire forum. This is clearly a straw man argument. I can understand why the man is upset about family stuff being posted here, but it was removed very quickly. The same thing could have happened on his own forum. He doxxes his competitors all the time, and even his own users, so he is endorsing the practice.

Anyway, it may be public knowledge who she is, but that doesn’t mean it should be brought up here, and just because he does it doesn’t mean we should stoop to his level. Let’s be the bigger men here. Nobody chooses who their parents are.

[Panorama]

Wise words Mister Ananas, it seems like you're more tolerant and accepting of who he is without going down the stupid name-calling path. But it seems that ist you that he angles and vents all his anger too...... Why?

[Pineapples Studio]

Oh, no. No no no… you’ve got it all wrong.

I am not tolerant or accepting of PW at all. I think he is a piece of shit. I simply understand that it is not correct (and is ultimately self-defeating) to “fight dirty”, even if he does it all the time. His kids can’t be held responsible for who he is or what he has done. Nobody gets to choose their parents.

As for why he targets me, I don’t know. I guess I’m one of the more vocal people here, but I only get involved now when he mentions my name. He’s been doing a lot of that lately. He actually called me “dangerous” once, which is flattering (I guess?). I am not trying to be a danger to anybody. The truth is the most important thing to me. If the truth is dangerous to PW, then so be it. My motivation is simple. I know people who have been on the receiving end of his craziness and it pisses me off that someone can do the things they have said about him and get away with it. Nobody should live in fear of a psychopath coming after them relentlessly until he gets what he wants.

Also, in case it wasn’t clear enough already: I am not employed by LegalPorno/AnalVids/PornBox or any of its parent or constituent companies. That has never been the case at any time. PW is under the impression that I’m like xxx’s lackey or something. I do not, cannot, and would not speak on his behalf. This is fucking obvious by now, but PW still doesn’t get it, or pretends not to get it.

PW seems to have a big problem assigning responsibility for things that happen to the people who are actually responsible for doing them.

[Panorama]

Ah right, I understand. It's all beyond me. But that idiots post this morning has put paid to me finding out anything about Eufrat's casting. Although I'm pretty sure I know what he would have said.

[BlueShadow]

LOL

[Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p]

I have interesting information for xxx/wgcz's lawyers for upcoming legal case which supposedly is being today, but I can't post it without moderator approval. It aslo says that all the links I posted are banned, so that doesn't help either. So, if you need my help from a legal point of view, open up my account, so I can help your legal team or tell me where I can send my message so that you can directly send it to your lawyer team.

[Eloise]

I have interesting information for xxx/wgcz's lawyers for upcoming legal case which supposedly is being today, but I can't post it without moderator approval. It aslo says that all the links I posted are banned, so that doesn't help either. So, if you need my help from a legal point of view, open up my account, so I can help your legal team or tell me where I can send my message so that you can directly send it to your lawyer team.

This is great stuff !!!
(where were you all of this time?)

Drop me an email at elodie.decouvelaere@gmail.com and let's build that case.

[Pineapples Studio]

FYI, Eloise does not work for WGCZ. Please be aware of that if you contact them.

[Eloise]

FYI: I don't work for ANYONE around here.
I'm just seeing a 34 page going thread and a new spic and span profile created just today chipping in with some high end high quality legal stuff that will shock the world and just as with that "wanna be a pornstar" thread this only can be lots of BS but on this subject it really adds to this thread.

[BlueShadow]

I'm just seeing a 34 page going thread

Thanks for the daily update.

[BlueShadow]

I just started page 35. What now? Happy?

[Pierrethebig]

I totally agree. I want to engage Pierre in constructive discussion, not involve his completely innocent family!! Please remove those posts!!!

He just involved himself in a "constructive discussion"
For at least 3 years he will discuss in a Court how cool guy he was, and how cool he is. He chosed to pee against the wind.
Hungary just adopted this new law to protect children, he will be a beloved one for sure The guy who fuck virgin girls immediately in their arse, to teach them good sex...
The guy who paid cash $$$$$$$ in that country is listed as being plenty of corrupted officials.
Paradise for Woodman...
Curious how he will manage to convince judges, he' s the guy they need in their country.
Does this guy speak hungarian language, or he need a translator ?
I guess probably he can speak good enough hungarian after so much time spent in Hungary..
Hungarian wife, almost 30 years spent there, he must speak fluently..