What kind of scenes would you like to see more of?

[SEMU]

MOAAAR 3ON1 ON LEGALPORNO PLEAAASE WITH GIANT GAPES AN HARD HARD SEX WE HOPE THIS IS !!!!

[dap-addict]

I do want everybody involved in a LP scene shot to enjoy their work maximally, especially the girls as they are in the centre for us customers. And the level of fun and joy on really shows in the end product! But please dont come out as a male consumer defineing what these girls enjoy and what they dont!!!

First of all, look porn is fantasy and not about makeing the girls on set happy and fulfilled women - also sexually.
If you wanna give them a good time find them a good lover for their own bedroom and leave them alone!

No contradiction at all if thats your problem, tgcfc26!
Come down on earth please! We are talking about a production process being work for most if not all of the people involved, girls included. But of course the more those involved enjoy their work the better the product.
Sexual arousement and real orgasms are another thing for most girls, though. Of course some of them still get it also on a porn set, but not as many as you may think judging the acted end product on your screen. And most girls do like pussy fucking, true, but this is porn being produced by LP, a product that has to sell and is catering for LP clients whose sex phantasy needs that poll established. And if they dont want to watch pussy only fucking in their porn than girls can get this on set still, but it doenst have to make it into the end product.
Ever been on a porn set? I honestly doubt!

[Tastes Like Ass]

The thing that people need to remember is that porn is a business, and in any business, the top priority is customer satisfaction. If the employees happen to enjoy their job, that's great, but if it's a choice between keeping your customers happy or keeping your employees happy, you have to go with what the customer wants. If the customers are unhappy, then you won't make as much money, so you will have to either fire some of your employees or pay them less, so they won't be happy, either.

You could also look at porn as analogous to mainstream movies. For example, if Matt Damon takes a role playing a lawyer, he will probably be required to wear a suit. Of course, he might prefer to wear something more comfortable, like a pair of jeans and a T-shirt. But you can't expect the director to allow him to do that. If he is adamant about not wearing a suit, then he is free to turn down any role that requires him to do so. The same goes for anything else that he would prefer not to do. Of course, the more things that he refuses to do, the harder it will be for him to find work, but that's his choice. The same thing goes for porn stars. They are free to do as much or as little as they want, provided that they are able to find someone willing to agree to their conditions. So, if they end up doing things that they don't really enjoy, or on the other hand, if they have trouble finding work because of all their conditions, in either case, they can blame no one but themselves.

[Pineapples Studio]

Would be interesting to repeat this poll now half a year later and check wheter LP production of the last months keep in line with customer requests.

Me personally I really like the clear 3on1 move.
1 girl in the centre, 3 studs is the ideal number to allow maximum hard fuck obstructing nothing and keep all her holes filled.

What I see stil less put into the new LP scenes is that clear anal only majority of votes.
Look there was no single vote for pussy only.
So please shoot more STA, more balls deep anal and especially anal only scenes. No pussy fucking at all, also no dps for that matter. If you want two cocks in a girl than go for dap! And if you want airtight than put the 3rd dick in her mouth. Pussy is to look at only, the symbolic "virgin" spot.

Still of course produce a variety of product and niches incl. cream and piss voted for fairly good.


Now some general adds of how to present your girls better IMO - but maybe here a poll would help,too.
- waxed pussy, absolutely no hair, no landing strips
- heels on always
- more classic stockings
- a bit more tease with minskirts, slips torn away etc. to make place for cock(s) fast
- tanned girls or virgin white like Misha Cross but no suntan lines


special additions during any scene
- more JYL-school beaaaam positions for the gapes
- more anal creampies farted out and licked from the floor


Generally thanks all the LP team really a lot to get thos Czech rookies into anal/dp/dap from their first scenes!
Please try to shoot a bit more Russian cuties again as well as more petite girls under 160cm.

Keep up your great anal porn work!

I agree 100% with everything in this post except for the heels and stockings. I like to see the bare feet.

[dap-addict]

The thing that people need to remember is that porn is a business, and in any business, the top priority is customer satisfaction.

Thanks, TLA!
Its an open board though and if some think LP organizes fun parties ans sexual gratification for their girls on set even paying them on top, so let them think so. This said of course I am happy for every true orgasm I see the booked for work LP girls get on set! Its a greaaaat thing!

[Tastes Like Ass]

The thing that people need to remember is that porn is a business, and in any business, the top priority is customer satisfaction.

Thanks, TLA!
Its an open board though and if some think LP organizes fun parties ans sexual gratification for their girls on set even paying them on top, so let them think so. This said of course I am happy for every true orgasm I see the booked for work LP girls get on set! Its a greaaaat thing!

Absolutely. The girl is getting paid to entertain the viewer. She is not getting paid to have orgasms. However, if she can do both things at the same time, then good for her!

[dap-addict]

I'm not singling you out to have a go at, I just get my back up when I read what I interpret as objectification.

Seing women as objects you mean?
Playing the feminst game?
Shall we start a list of feminist girls working for LP than starting with Misha Cross and ending with GGs Piter dap Vanda?
Look we are talking about producing a product customers want to buy. Produced with workers who want to work for the given company. Did I miss somehing?

[Kuaheyden]

Monster Gapes , Rim My Gape, Gape to Gape, the russian roots.

[tgcfc26]

Fuck sake, are you starting again from the beginning because you have some people who agree with you ? I said I didn't want to have a discussion anymore when English clearly isn't your first language, but okay lets start again.

You're trying to portray me as some sort of white knight here, or feminist standing up for women's rights. My first point about what I like seeing was this

I love first and foremost the reaction of the girl and how overwhelmed and turned on she gets, regardless of what the scene consists of.

I made no mention of orgasms, I said nothing rediculous about LP organising fun parties for womens sexual gratification. I just like to see the girl in question be totally in to a scene, which for me would involve including whatever she really enjoys. I don't buy in to the concept that this is a business and therefore the aim should always be to appease customers. Porn is unlike any other product, we are dealing with human beings after all; this is why comments on the only way the girls should get fucked pisses me off. Don't get me started again on this priceless piece of verbal diarrhoea.

Pussy is to look at only, the symbolic "virgin" spot.

Sineplex or LP has always had a reputation for its particular type of content. I wish they would just focus on what they have always represented, hard anal with a focus on gaping, hard pussy fucking, kreme and piss.... and stop trying to please every person who posts on the forums, some of whom aren't even members and have never purchased a thing.

[Tastes Like Ass]

I just like to see the girl in question be totally in to a scene, which for me would involve including whatever she really enjoys.

Seriously? So, if a girl gets off on fucking guys in the ass with a strap-on (which some girls definitely do), then Sineplex should start including that in scenes, just because the girl likes it? You've got to be kidding.

I don't buy in to the concept that this is a business and therefore the aim should always be to appease customers.

It really doesn't matter whether you "buy in" or not. It's not my opinion that porn is a business; it's a fact. It's also a fact that any porn company that doesn't do a good enough job of pleasing its customers will soon be out of the porn business. So, that has to be their top priority, regardless of whether you like it or not.

Sineplex or LP has always had a reputation for its particular type of content. I wish they would just focus on what they have always represented, hard anal with a focus on gaping, hard pussy fucking, kreme and piss....

I agree that they should stick to the formula that has been so successful for them, as I have said many times when people come on here demanding bondage scenes, or saying that anal is disgusting, or what have you. But the reason why they should stick with that formula is because it's what most of their loyal customers, such as you and I, want to see. It's not because it's necessarily what most girls enjoy. If that was the standard, there would probably be a lot less anal, a lot more pussy eating, etc. And for what it's worth, I don't think the suggestions made in the comment that has gotten you so bent out of shape really represent all that much of a deviation from the type of sex that Sineplex has always been known for.

[dap-addict]

Pussy is to look at only, the symbolic "virgin" spot.

Sineplex or LP has always had a reputation for its particular type of content. I wish they would just focus on what they have always represented, hard anal with a focus on gaping, hard pussy fucking, kreme and piss.... and stop trying to please every person who posts on the forums, some of whom aren't even members and have never purchased a thing.

Whom I am trying to please, here?
I stated it very clear and openly that I dont watch any pussy fucking in porn at all and I dont want it produced for me.
We also have a clear lack of 100% anal only scenes at LP. And that poll shows it clearly!
BUT I am not the only customer, 22% of us is not 100%, there are a lot of fetishes and a lot of likes/dislikes. Thus LP shall go on and produce pussy fucking porn footage as well - especially it that sells.

[Pineapples Studio]

I mean, not every scene has to be 100% anal only. It'd be cool to see them shoot scenes like that every now and then, but it doesn't make a huge difference to me one way or another. I have nothing against the pussy.

[dap-addict]

Agree, e-p!
I remind all concerened I wrote:

So please shoot more STA, more balls deep anal and especially anal only scenes. No pussy fucking at all, also no dps for that matter. If you want two cocks in a girl than go for dap! And if you want airtight than put the 3rd dick in her mouth. Pussy is to look at only, the symbolic "virgin" spot.
Still of course produce a variety of product (...)

For me pussy is the centre of every girl, her most precious spot, and I like to see also in porn they really do care for her and present her well.
In my anal only porn concept (not encompassing all LP productions of course!) I called it the symbolic "virgin" spot, the part of the actress the studs have no access on set because its exclusive for the actresses private, bts, whatever use. But of course its to be fucked for other LP formats.

[Tastes Like Ass]

Just to clarify one of my comments from earlier in the thread, when I said that normal single vag was "boring", I actually meant that only in the case of lots of vaginal action in an anal scene. I actually watch a few scenes from time to time with no anal at all (especially if they have some fetish that I really like or a girl that's really special), and even in anal scenes I don't at all object to a little vaginal warmup, say for maybe a minute or two before the anal starts. What I find boring is lots of vaginal action, like more than about 5 minutes worth. When I watch an anal scene, I want to see either all anal or almost all anal. I also dislike the constant back and forth ass to pussy action, because I think it kills the momentum of the scene.

[dap-addict]

Monster Gapes , Rim My Gape, Gape to Gape, the russian roots.

Back to the Russian roots keeping all those nice new Czech girls would be really nice, indeed!
I sometimes do miss that really hard edged Piter porn feeling we got with lets say Alysas first shot for Sineplex and a lot of GG stuff.
Most girls just did what told on set, no Ivana Sugar princess games and stuff - and it shows!
And please nobody get me wrong! These Russian girls had a good time on set, too. But the Russian hardcore way!

[tgcfc26]

Okay first off TLA

Seriously? So, if a girl gets off on fucking guys in the ass with a strap-on (which some girls definitely do), then Sineplex should start including that in scenes, just because the girl likes it? You've got to be kidding.

You start a reply with seriously and then follow it up with that ? You have taken my use of whatever far too literally. Do you honestly believe my point was to start letting women fuck men in the ass with that comment ? I think you know full well what I meant, but instead you've decided to be a smart ass.

It really doesn't matter whether you "buy in" or not. It's not my opinion that porn is a business; it's a fact. It's also a fact that any porn company that doesn't do a good enough job of pleasing its customers will soon be out of the porn business. So, that has to be their top priority, regardless of whether you like it or not.

You have the wrong end of the stick here a well. My comment was not questioning whether this is or isn't as business, I'm not an idiot. The point was I don't buy in to the need to please everyone because it's such. There are plenty of examples of companies with a big profile and success that don't bend over backwards to cater to the whims of all their customers. Now if you're talking about website functionality, costing, scene bugs or issues, general support or even models we'd like to see, then yes, I think the customer is the top priority; but I don't agree when it comes to the individual opinions on scene content. By your logic, suggestions from people of bondage, or anal being disgusting so they don't wanna see it, that you've shot down in the past, should surely have full credibility and be catered for or they risk failing as a company.

Let me end this by making something clear - I have no issue with anal only scenes, I already said I love watching these beauties get fucked in the arse, it's mainly the reason (coupled with everything else they do so well) that I'm a member here. Please stop quoting percentages at me, I care about the personal taste of 25 people, probably as much as they care about mine. My issue is specifically about a forums suggestions deciding what a scene consists of, or the specific way the women should get fucked. I'd rather this was left up to the company/performers, and they got their feedback from sales, rather than open it up to any random Tom, Dick and Harry. I don't particularly like a scenario where one of these girls is told, today we are going to ignore this or that because of the results of a poll. This to me is counterproductive in terms of how good the scene and her performance/enjoyment could be, and in turn, ultimately impacts us....imo.

[dap-addict]

I care about the personal taste of 25 people, probably as much as they care about mine. My issue is specifically about a forums suggestions deciding what a scene consists of, or the specific way the women should get fucked. I'd rather this was left up to the company/performers, and they got their feedback from sales, rather than open it up to any random Tom, Dick and Harry.

Maybe I am shooting back to fast, because you probabely prepare an answer for me too, but let me ask: Ever hear of directors? Porn directors like SOS a.o.?
These people tell their team of performers what is being shot that day, how its being shot etc.
So...if the girl and her stud(s) feel like fucking pussy only in an anal scene and SOS or who else doenst need this footage they can do it in the breaks or bts or whereever. They are free people, but the scene has still to be shot and the time is running usually.
And one last thing if a girl insists on what she enjoys and how only she wants to do it on set, but it isnt forseen than she gets kicked out at some point - also whan she insists on anal only in a pussy only project. Its work on a porn set, you understand this?!

And now about 25 people: Every poll shows a random sample of LP porn fans and thus has to be compared with the overall sales rates of course. But wheter the sample is 25, 50 or 120 a company like LP better has a look at those polls, too. And not only at the wish to shoot girl X and girl Y lists.

[tgcfc26]

Maybe I am shooting back to fast, because you probabely prepare an answer for me too, but please let me ask: Ever hear of directors? Porn directors like SOS for instance?
These people tell their team of performers what is being shot that day, how its being shot etc.
So...if the girl and her stud(s) feel like fucking pussy only in an anal scene and SOS or who else doenst need this footage they can do it in the breaks or bts or whereever. They are free people, but the scene has still to be shot and the time is running usually.
And one last thing if a girl insists on what she enjoys and how she wants to do it on set but it isnt forseen than she gets kicked out at some point - also whan she insists on anal only in a pussy only project. Its work on a porn set, you understand this?!

I have absolutely no idea what this paragraph means in reply to what I said. Please stop directing replies at me that have nothing to do with the context of what you quote. Again language barrier.

I don't disagree that a poll of any size gives an idea as to what certain people want, this is obvious. I just don't feel it should be adhered to as some form of directive.

[dap-addict]

tgcfc26, your english is so much better than!
Main question is for me, have you ever visited a porn set? Ever even talked to a porn director? Or any film director at all?

[tgcfc26]

Dude honestly, at this point I'm not interested anymore. I'm not saying my English is much better than yours, I'm saying it's causing misunderstandings, which again is evident.

This is what I want to see more of

[dap-addict]

Forget it than.
But please stop those selfrighteous attacks on me or my views in the future.
And now lets all contribute here in a way that LP gets a clue what we consumers really want in their porn footage!

[tgcfc26]

Well let me offer an apology, I was wrong to single you out for the focus of my rant. My issue is more in line with this topic as a whole, and not specifically personal contribution to it; I just happened to read yours that morning and it irritated me for whatever reason. I don't consider myself self-righteous, but I do see how my opinions can come across that way. I can be a right cunt sometimes, so apologies dude

[wason]

Let me end this by making something clear - I have no issue with anal only scenes, I already said I love watching these beauties get fucked in the arse, it's mainly the reason (coupled with everything else they do so well) that I'm a member here. Please stop quoting percentages at me, I care about the personal taste of 25 people, probably as much as they care about mine. My issue is specifically about a forums suggestions deciding what a scene consists of, or the specific way the women should get fucked. I'd rather this was left up to the company/performers, and they got their feedback from sales, rather than open it up to any random Tom, Dick and Harry. I don't particularly like a scenario where one of these girls is told, today we are going to ignore this or that because of the results of a poll. This to me is counterproductive in terms of how good the scene and her performance/enjoyment could be, and in turn, ultimately impacts us....imo.

You have an incomplete and inaccurate understanding of the situation: Management has already stated that they use sales as a primary factor in deciding what type of content to feature. However, management has also decided to run polls, and otherwise inquire about consumer opinion(which has had a decidedly positive influence on scene quality: management has already incorporated a number of improvements as a result of individual/collective opinions - although, obviously management retains the ability to consider all relevant factors and make the final decision); the results of the poll should certainly influence what type of scenes are being shot (even a small sample size will yield meaningful results, because respondents will be essentially randomized among the viewing population, and generally this will give an accurate idea of the overall opinion - this concept has already been proven in many other disciplines, and should be general knowledge - there is no doubt the poll results are meaningful to a significant extent, even considering the sample size.), however, they are not the only part.

You are deluding yourself regarding the industry. It is a business and it is a job: You must cater directly to consumer demand - that is THE primary consideration, above all others - You find what viewers want(using a variety of methods - including sales, polls, individual opinions, among other things), you find individuals who are willing/able to do these things, you find a price, and you go from there. Whether or not someone "really enjoys" something is essentially an irrelevant consideration in these cases. If the poll shows that the most popular category was "anal only", then it makes sense to immediately consider shooting more "anal only" scenes, regardless of performer preference(of course performers would be aware of what will happen in a scene, and can make the decision beforehand whether or not to participate).
To repeat what someone else mentioned, your personal beliefs/feelings about how things should be, are irrelevant, not to mention delusional, sub-optimal, and simply inaccurate.

[DudeMan101]

My only thought on this topic is these forums are separate from the actual site. Someone mentioned it earlier, but anyone can sign up without having spent a dime. Taking that into consideration, it's hard to put much weight on any feedback within this forum when it isn't tied to paying members. I believe this forum should be tied to user accounts on LP. This way, only paying members can use the forum and feedback would be more meaningful.

I'm a member at Brazzers (for now anyway) and the forum is tied to the paid account. That's how it should be done everywhere.

[tgcfc26]

You have an incomplete and inaccurate understanding of the situation: Management has already stated that they use sales as a primary factor in deciding what type of content to feature. However, management has also decided to run polls, and otherwise inquire about consumer opinion(which has had a decidedly positive influence on scene quality: management has already incorporated a number of improvements as a result of individual/collective opinions - although, obviously management retains the ability to consider all relevant factors and make the final decision); the results of the poll should certainly influence what type of scenes are being shot (even a small sample size will yield meaningful results, because respondents will be essentially randomized among the viewing population, and generally this will give an accurate idea of the overall opinion - this concept has already been proven in many other disciplines, and should be general knowledge - there is no doubt the poll results are meaningful to a significant extent, even considering the sample size.), however, they are not the only part.

I don't believe I do, I have a difference of opinion on the effectiveness or worth of a poll on an open forum, and the detrimental effect it's results can have on scene content. Limiting what a scene includes because of the outcome of these things also put limits on the women who are willing to do them. I agree that such things can be good feedback for other aspects of the business, but can you give me an example based on polls regarding content, where this applies

However, management has also decided to run polls, and otherwise inquire about consumer opinion(which has had a decidedly positive influence on scene quality

I've read many posters moaning about the content not being as good as it once was, I don't personally agree, but at the same time I wouldn't base it's current quality on the result of consumer opinion or poll results.

I don't delude myself at all with regards to the industry, yes it's a job and yes it's a business, but because it's one that deals directly with the sexual interaction of women, telling me that

Whether or not someone "really enjoys" something is essentially an irrelevant consideration in these cases.

Is not an opinion I share. This view of mine is at the heart of how this back and forth began, and it's one I maintain. If you believe that to be delusional, sub-obtimal, or any other adjective you wanna send my way, that's fine.

Edit - Dudeman I agree completely, and it's something I alluded to earlier and again here.

[Pineapples Studio]

My only thought on this topic is these forums are separate from the actual site. Someone mentioned it earlier, but anyone can sign up without having spent a dime. Taking that into consideration, it's hard to put much weight on any feedback within this forum when it isn't tied to paying members. I believe this forum should be tied to user accounts on LP. This way, only paying members can use the forum and feedback would be more meaningful.

I'm a member at Brazzers (for now anyway) and the forum is tied to the paid account. That's how it should be done everywhere.

I don't think the forum should lock out anyone who isn't a member, but paying customers should be able to link their accounts and have a little check mark next to their names to signify their status.

The polls are pretty much useless since we don't know who is voting on them.

[dap-addict]

As long as we dont have obvious non LP sex menue trolls here I wouldnt say that.
Somebody may have his membership rested for a month for financial reasons, sb else is just waiting to get his credit card approved, try to decide what to spend his tickets on ect, why be so exclusive and not listen to likely-customer polls? As said for the LP content producers it is sales figures at first sombined with customers wishes giving future scenes directions.

Or: Why shouldnt we say what content we want to be produced for us to buy - even if this question is summed up also in an easy readable poll?

[DudeMan101]

As long as we dont have obvious non LP sex menue trolls here I wouldnt say that.
Somebody may have his membership rested for a month for financial reasons, sb else is just waiting to get his credit card approved, try to decide what to spend his tickets on ect, why be so exclusive and not listen to likely-customer polls? As said for the LP content producers it is sales figures at first sombined with customers wishes giving future scenes directions.

Or: Why shouldnt we say what content we want to be produced for us to buy - even if this question is summed up also in an easy readable poll?

Note: If I say "you", I don't mean you personally. I'm using it to represent the people.

What makes members a "likely-customer"? Why are they more likely to be a potential customer than a pirate? If you aren't putting money into LP, why should your opinion matter?

If you are waiting to get your credit card approved, then you can wait to start posting. If you have tickets, then you are already a paying customer. So whether you're waiting to spend them on something, it doesn't matter, you get access because you already paid. If you stop purchasing tickets for financial reasons, then that's life. When you make it back up on your feet you can start purchasing again and join the community again.

It's not so much about exclusivity. It's about customers being heard, not the pirates. One way to do it, if you want to keep it open, is to have a section for customers only. Non-customers can still participate in model discussion, etc., but paying customers can access a section where only their voices can be heard.

As you say, why shouldn't we say what content we want to be produced? I agree with that with the caveat that only customers should have the say. The members should prove they support the company before having their opinion have any weight.

[dap-addict]

Okay, thats sth LP has to sort out if they want it more exclusive.
All I say customers should have a say also via polls and forum discussions not only ex-post sales rates.
Its actally win-win for LP and us clients.

[dap-addict]

You find what viewers want(using a variety of methods - including sales, polls, individual opinions, among other things), you find individuals who are willing/able to do these things, you find a price, and you go from there. Whether or not someone "really enjoys" something is essentially an irrelevant consideration in these cases. If the poll shows that the most popular category was "anal only", then it makes sense to immediately consider shooting more "anal only" scenes, regardless of performer preference(of course performers would be aware of what will happen in a scene, and can make the decision beforehand whether or not to participate)

Thanks for stating it that clearly, wason!
I think a lot of porn fans live in a dream world starting to believe the sexual fantasies they buy.
This said of course any producer always finds performers enjoying their job. And thats a good thing and it also shows in the end product. And of course studios creating a good and relaxed mood on set dont loose out here as well. But still basically is utter irrelevant what the performers "really enjoy" during the sex they enact because they agreed to get booked for it.
And as I said before if a girl booked for an anal only scenes wishes to get started with pussy only she can do it off set, bts, in shooting pauses whatsoever. She is free and such things happen of course. But booked for anal only she has to perform anal fine - otherwise there is no fellow-up booking.

Btw, tgcfc26, thanks for apologies! Peace!

[tgcfc26]

I think a lot of porn fans live in a dream world starting to believe the sexual fantasies they buy.

Make a stupid comment that's clearly aimed at me, and then thank me for my apology and say peace in the same post. Just to not derail this thread I'm gonna bite my tongue.

[Tastes Like Ass]

You have taken my use of whatever far too literally. Do you honestly believe my point was to start letting women fuck men in the ass with that comment ? I think you know full well what I meant, but instead you've decided to be a smart ass.

Yes, I was being somewhat sarcastic to illustrate how silly I think your position is. However, I have seen other people actually take your argument to some pretty ridiculous lengths, so I couldn't be sure that you weren't using "whatever" literally.

There are plenty of examples of companies with a big profile and success that don't bend over backwards to cater to the whims of all their customers. Now if you're talking about website functionality, costing, scene bugs or issues, general support or even models we'd like to see, then yes, I think the customer is the top priority; but I don't agree when it comes to the individual opinions on scene content. By your logic, suggestions from people of bondage, or anal being disgusting so they don't wanna see it, that you've shot down in the past, should surely have full credibility and be catered for or they risk failing as a company.

Now you're the one who is mischaracterizing my argument. I never said that they should try to please every single customer. That's obviously impossible. However, it is equally obvious that they must please many customers to stay in business.

My issue is specifically about a forums suggestions deciding what a scene consists of, or the specific way the women should get fucked. I'd rather this was left up to the company/performers, and they got their feedback from sales, rather than open it up to any random Tom, Dick and Harry. I don't particularly like a scenario where one of these girls is told, today we are going to ignore this or that because of the results of a poll. This to me is counterproductive in terms of how good the scene and her performance/enjoyment could be, and in turn, ultimately impacts us....imo.

Fair enough. You're entitled to your opinion of what makes a scene hot, and that's not even where I disagree with you. Rather, I disagree with the general idea that when the girl's preferences conflict with what the majority of the viewers want to see, the girl's preferences should be given equal weight, or really any weight, for that matter. If the girl is not willing to do what the majority of the customers want to see, then she should be replaced with another girl who is willing to do that.

I tried to illustrate this earlier with my Matt Damon analogy, but in case that didn't work, here's another one. Imagine you go to your favorite seafood restaurant and order the shrimp, only to be told that's it's no longer available. Dismayed, you ask the waiter, "Why not? Wasn't it popular with the other customers?" He replies that, "Oh no, it was one of the most popular items on the menu. But we just hired a new chef, and he dislikes cooking shrimp. In fact, he's allergic to shellfish. So, we took it off the menu. Instead, why don't you try a steak? He loves cooking steak!" Would this be a reasonable position for the restaurant to take? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to just fire the chef, and hire a replacement for him?

[Pineapples Studio]

Note: If I say "you", I don't mean you personally. I'm using it to represent the people.

What makes members a "likely-customer"? Why are they more likely to be a potential customer than a pirate? If you aren't putting money into LP, why should your opinion matter?

If you are waiting to get your credit card approved, then you can wait to start posting. If you have tickets, then you are already a paying customer. So whether you're waiting to spend them on something, it doesn't matter, you get access because you already paid. If you stop purchasing tickets for financial reasons, then that's life. When you make it back up on your feet you can start purchasing again and join the community again.

It's not so much about exclusivity. It's about customers being heard, not the pirates. One way to do it, if you want to keep it open, is to have a section for customers only. Non-customers can still participate in model discussion, etc., but paying customers can access a section where only their voices can be heard.

As you say, why shouldn't we say what content we want to be produced? I agree with that with the caveat that only customers should have the say. The members should prove they support the company before having their opinion have any weight.

The major problem with this line of thinking is that some customers purchase scenes in bulk instead of memberships. They're still paying customers who deserve to have their voices heard, but they don't pay a monthly rate.

[DudeMan101]

The major problem with this line of thinking is that some customers purchase scenes in bulk instead of memberships. They're still paying customers who deserve to have their voices heard, but they don't pay a monthly rate.

I don't find that a problem at all. If you buy in bulk, make sure to leave a few credits in your account. If you don't leave any credits, it's akin to your membership expiring at Brazzers. Expire and lose access. No tokens and lose access. If you buy in bulk, you can always leave a little and then top up once you see more content you want to purchase.

If you aren't doing monthly and have 0 credits then you don't have any current contributions to LP. If you keep credits in your account it at least shows you're willing to support LP. It just might be you haven't found any good scenes lately (in which case your input would be a great thing) or you're waiting to bulk up.

[dap-addict]

I think a lot of porn fans live in a dream world starting to believe the sexual fantasies they buy.

Make a stupid comment that's clearly aimed at me, and then thank me for my apology and say peace in the same post. Just to not derail this thread I'm gonna bite my tongue.

Hey, easy man, its really not only you!

...and now can we have LP book the girls willing to enact what a lot of clients already demanded in November, ie. more anal only in 3on1 bbbg scenes? Thanks!

[ayrtight]

Since there has been some talking about people wanting soft scenes in other threads , I thought I´d mention it more clearly than my first post on this thread :

It is clear that I like Dp´s and airtights , but only with traditional DP , no interest in DAP or DVP .
My other tastes are all very soft :
No interest in Dildos , Kreme , Pissing , choking , hair pulling etc ( Hardcore-gangbangs etc )

Otherwise interest in solo teasing scenes without toys ( DDF style ) , lesbian threesomes or foursomes ( or more ) with lots of soft , sensual pussy and ass licking and multiple kisses ( like some of the old sapphic erotica scenes or also Sophie Moone ) .
Now I am aware that these genres are not the core repertoire of this site , but if it would exist , I´d maybe buy tickets for these scenes .

Meanwhile I only go for the airtight and dp scenes with nice multiple facials , and where the camera focuses on the feet also ( Barefoot or high heels ) , hopefully with the girl fully naked at least in some parts of the clip .

[tgcfc26]

I tried to illustrate this earlier with my Matt Damon analogy, but in case that didn't work, here's another one. Imagine you go to your favorite seafood restaurant and order the shrimp, only to be told that's it's no longer available. Dismayed, you ask the waiter, "Why not? Wasn't it popular with the other customers?" He replies that, "Oh no, it was one of the most popular items on the menu. But we just hired a new chef, and he dislikes cooking shrimp. In fact, he's allergic to shellfish. So, we took it off the menu. Instead, why don't you try a steak? He loves cooking steak!" Would this be a reasonable position for the restaurant to take? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to just fire the chef, and hire a replacement for him?

TLA this analogy works perfectly fine in that context, but you're talking like all consumer demand models should work in a similar way. If we now translate that to reflect a porn scenario, for me it doesn't work.

Imagine you go to your favorite seafood restaurant and order the shrimp, only to be told that's it's no longer available.

This would imply that it was infact once available, I don't understand the point or correlation. We're not having a discussion about scene content no longer being on the site, it's aboult what people want more of. But let's say for arguments sake that the shrimp is a pmao scene

Dismayed, you ask the waiter, "Why not? Wasn't it popular with the other customers?" He replies that, "Oh no, it was one of the most popular items on the menu.

Okay so here I'm guessing the menu reflects this type of poll, which again I reiterate, is open to anybody who visits these forums to influence, not just customers. In this instance, for the analogy to work imo, A pmao scenes popularity would need to be based off of sales data, and not the input of any random who can sign in to a website.

But we just hired a new chef, and he dislikes cooking shrimp. In fact, he's allergic to shellfish. So, we took it off the menu. Instead, why don't you try a steak? He loves cooking steak!" Would this be a reasonable position for the restaurant to take? Wouldn't it make a lot more sense to just fire the chef, and hire a replacement for him?

What happened to the chef who was happy making the popular items ? Let's say the new chef is one of the more in demand cooks around, Henessy for example (probably a poor choice, let's face it, she'd most likely do whatever's on the menu ) would you rather watch her do what she loves doing, or see her fired because she's allergic/doesn't want to do, what's popular on the menu ? Now her replacement is gonna be yet another chef who is prepared to make the shrimp. What if they're not as good, what if they only do what's asked of them for the money and there's no passion in what they produce. Would the quality of what's on offer not then be affected as a consequence and the customer ultimately suffer, or would this be okay because at least they made them what they want ?

This is my fear with these types of things, they limit the pool at which you have to pick from. Certain girls who may be very popular and great performers, may not get as much screen time because they won't meet a poll results criteria. As others have said, if this proposal in its current form held more validity, and was reflected by people the management know are going to pay for what they ask for, then yes I suppose you do have to cater to the majority. It still for me has more negative points than positive.

[dap-addict]

This is my fear with these types of things, they limit the pool at which you have to pick from. Certain girls who may be very popular and great performers, may not get as much screen time because they won't meet a poll results criteria.

Girls like Ivana Sugar you mean?
viewtopic.php?f=104&t=7534 (LP on-set insider assesment has gone unfortunately, but it was open to the core, showing with what kind of attitude our LP directors sometimes have to cope with. Hard work, indeed!)
You can get her scenes with others...LP just cannot cater for the whole porn market.

Additionally LPs step by step tactics give almost every girl willing to work for LP a chance to get into the mood needed for this company.
Finally polls are just one element. They point to the future whereas sale statistics point to the past. But both are crucial market research elements.

[tgcfc26]

Finally polls are just one element. They point to the future whereas sale statistics point to the past. But both are crucial market research elements

Not on an open forum, they're pointless.

[Tastes Like Ass]

This is my fear with these types of things, they limit the pool at which you have to pick from. Certain girls who may be very popular and great performers, may not get as much screen time because they won't meet a poll results criteria. As others have said, if this proposal in its current form held more validity, and was reflected by people the management know are going to pay for what they ask for, then yes I suppose you do have to cater to the majority. It still for me has more negative points than positive.

I think we may be talking past each other a bit, so let me try to explain myself a little differently. It seems there are two separate (but related) issues here. The first is how to determine what the majority of the customers want to see (polls, sales, forum comments, etc.). The other is what to do, assuming that you know the wishes of the majority of the customers, when those wishes conflict with the preferences of the performers.

In the first case, you are saying that polls are basically a worthless tool for measuring consumer preferences, and I'm not really arguing with that. I would probably give them a bit of weight, but I certainly agree that polls (especially unscientific ones like these) are not the only way, and probably not even the best way, to determine customer preferences. At the very least, they should be combined with the other factors, like sales, individual feedback, and so on.

Where I think we disagree is on the second point, where you seem to be saying that, even if you know with a high degree of certainty what the majority of the customers want to see, you should still balance that with what the performers would prefer to do. On the other hand, I am saying that the primary goal of everyone involved in the production of a scene (the director, the female performers, the male performers, etc.) should be the entertainment of the viewer. This means that their own personal enjoyment (to the extent that it conflicts with the goal of entertaining the viewer) should take a backseat to their professional responsibility to do what they are being paid to do, which is to entertain as many viewers as possible.