Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

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Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby HwtOxc8K » Tue Jan 08, 2019 7:34 pm

People have short attention spans these days. 60 minutes for a single scene is way too long. I wonder how many people watch them from start to end. Brazzers changed their model to 30 minutes scenes over the past years. I know these are gangbangs but still 40 minutes should be the max. Plenty of time to cover everything. There's no need to show the same position for 15 minutes (Looking at you IV studio).

GIO903 with Lady Dee is perfect. Ends around 40 minutes and then a 5 minute interview. Short and sweet.

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Postby blublubeacha » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:31 pm

I like it long. Especially with my favorite models

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby lambok » Tue Jan 08, 2019 8:42 pm

When I write a while ago about my nostalgia for Doubleteamedteens DP scenes, I can totally support this request/opinion. These scene were about 30min long at most (maybe 25min?) but it was enough. No solo foreplay. For me, for example, solo foreplays are so boring I skip it everytime.

If I want to see naked girl, I just google "naked girl" and click on pictures :)

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby magizi877 » Tue Jan 08, 2019 9:20 pm

I think the are some reasons why most studios trim scenes down to 30 mins.

They want to sell DVDs and fit 5 scenes into one disk. To increase the likelihood of people buying the product, for at least one scene.

They are thinking that longer access require more bandwidth to download and are trying to maximize profit.

They are trying to reduce the amount of time they spent editing the scenes. The encoding process is a huge time sink.

There are probably more.

That being said, as a consumer I appreciate that LP gives us longer lasting scenes. And I wish that 60 min scenes become the lowest amount of footage they offer.

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Angel Eyes » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:26 am

HwtOxc8K wrote:60 minutes for a single scene is way too long. I wonder how many people watch them from start to end. .....GIO903 with Lady Dee is perfect. Ends around 40 minutes and then a 5 minute interview. Short and sweet.


I watch scenes start to finish...then again playing back favourite segments and even the entire scene again. I fall in love with some really excellent scenes...I never want them to end.

60+ minutes should be the target minimum scene length. When I'm watching my favourite model I want the scene to go on forever. Longer scenes allow us more time with our treasured girls. I don't understand why anyone would want short scenes.
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby HwtOxc8K » Wed Jan 09, 2019 9:46 am

Because nobody jerks off for 60 minutes. Also nobody has time for that.

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:45 am

As customer I somehow agree. I cant stand an anal scene that takes 20 minutes to arrive at the "core of the matter", sometimes I watch my own content, even the best scenes and I think they would be more explosive if we even record less footage. 30 minutes of intense anal sex would be enough for me, with 5 minutes intro at most.
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby error01x » Wed Jan 09, 2019 10:48 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:As customer I somehow agree. I cant stand an anal scene that takes 20 minutes to arrive at the "core of the matter", sometimes I watch my own content, even the best scenes and I think they would be more explosive if we even record less footage. 30 minutes of intense anal sex would be enough for me, with 5 minutes intro at most.


60 minutes seems perfect to me for a scene. What I don't like are 2 parted scenes.
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby ironclawxii » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:02 am

I like the scenes longer, it gives you a lot of different positions to watch and decide which to fap to. :)

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Paulo324 » Wed Jan 09, 2019 3:54 pm

Longer scenes are the best because they show a good amount of positions for long periods of time. I love seeing the endurance of the girls and how long they can take it in the ass in prone bone for example. Seeing the whores take cock after cock in their asses is sight to behold for every one of us porn lovers! The long scenes make LP stand out from everyone else. I love it!

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jan 09, 2019 4:40 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:As customer I somehow agree. I cant stand an anal scene that takes 20 minutes to arrive at the "core of the matter", sometimes I watch my own content, even the best scenes and I think they would be more explosive if we even record less footage. 30 minutes of intense anal sex would be enough for me, with 5 minutes intro at most.

Interesting! I usually shorten your 55min average scenes to just about that length by watching max. 2min intro, going straight to 1st anal insertion for 1-2min, going to doggy DAP warm-up and than starting with what really matters for me, your "core of the matter", which is DAP-ing and the girls reactions to it for me. Ideally that part lasts 20-30min cut. Than 2-3min cum-shots. Thus: 5min warm-up incl. first DAP position + 20-30min core action + max 5min cs and cuties waving goodbye = 30-40min.

Still, with more complex scenes and lots of position changes 60 to 80min to choose my "core of the matter" footage from is better. Thus all in all I'd opt for longer, not shorter scenes.
I also opt for them as some other users may actually want those 5 to 25min solo dildo or g/g intros and the anal/dp only warm-ups for DAP. Its just different user needs catered for in 1 scene! :) ;) If that scene was only 30min as OP suggests some user needs may be left un-catered for, which would be a shame. I mean we all have also soft hearts, hearts beating for virgin lez action for instance, g/g play without your "dirty" macho (sic!) BBC team. LOL! ;)
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby temp.ftnstudent » Wed Jan 09, 2019 5:03 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:As customer I somehow agree. I cant stand an anal scene that takes 20 minutes to arrive at the "core of the matter", sometimes I watch my own content, even the best scenes and I think they would be more explosive if we even record less footage. 30 minutes of intense anal sex would be enough for me, with 5 minutes intro at most.


What about girl prepares in advanced and then 2 min intro and 20mins of hardcore bang? It should be 20-25min scene?

Would you do that experiment?

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Jan 09, 2019 11:10 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:As customer I somehow agree. I cant stand an anal scene that takes 20 minutes to arrive at the "core of the matter", sometimes I watch my own content, even the best scenes and I think they would be more explosive if we even record less footage. 30 minutes of intense anal sex would be enough for me, with 5 minutes intro at most.


One advantage of longer scenes is it allows you to show longer sections of each type of content, which is good for those who like particular things rather than a bit of everything. I'm a huge fan of standing anal for example, as it allows for great whole body shots to also show off the women's legs and shoes. For me one of the things I love about some of your films is where you have long sections of just this but if you were to try and shorten scenes I'd guess you'd look to shorten this to focus on things like the DAP for example. Other people however presumably really like the DAP parts which, no offence, don't do much for me as they lack the intensity of deep and fast single anal penetration. My point being that longer scenes allow you to cater for more people in one go.

As @paulo324 said, things like prone bone parts should definitely not be shortened - more of this please :cool: .

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby TheVulture » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:05 am

I agree with the OP. I rarely need the whole scene so it can almost be a chore to sit through the whole thing. I also think the scene length means the guys are pacing themselves more, which reduces the heat and intensity. In Gio's scenes the guys often don't even make any noise, which I think is linked to the methodical kind of way they're fucking and just comes across as very unnatural. I'd rather see a more explosive, animal kind of sex, even if it means less on screen fucking time. The guys should basically be fighting each other to get at the girl(s). :D

In some ways Gio's scenes are a victim of their own success. As they go straight to anal they leave themselves nowhere to go in many ways so the only way to raise the heat (or at least try to) is to do DAP for 30 mins or something. But for me it's that single anal section I'm likely to get off on. I'm not saying the scenes should revert to the old Private formula of blow job>pussy>anal/DP - stick to the straight-to-anal certainly - but then look to mix it up a bit and maintain a focus on harder fucking for a shorter period over marathon type DAP/TAP sex.

One thing I really miss is edits. With the porn I watched in my formative years you would generally get a tight edit between, say, a DP section and the final cumshot(s). That edit in itself became a key part of the scene as it created a kind of "Pavlov's Dog" response in you when watching. You knew what was coming next and it was exciting that the scene would jump from one hot bit to a different hot bit. Now we tend to get every kind of repositioning, sections where girl's legs flail around or guys have to re-enter etc. Stuff that you just don't need. I've never understood that. It's a fantasy you're trying to create. Edits are part of creating that fantasy and are thus hot. Whoever fantasised about the hot girl at work giving them a blow job and you then getting to fuck her and added in between a section where she struggled with getting her bra off or you needed 2 or 3 attempts to get her in the correct doggy position? No-one, that's who. :D

I would love to see Gio try this kind of shorter scene to gauge the results. No need to reduce ticket prices as it's quality not quantity, although a sensible idea might be to trial it with 2 guy 1 girl type scenes so as to keep it to the slightly lower priced scenes with the longer style perhaps remaining in place for 5/10 guy gangbang type scenes.
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Angel Eyes » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:36 am

^ long post Culture but I feel you are mostly trolling us in your comments.

If LP goes to 25 minute heavily edited scenes they might as well turn off the lights, close the door and just close up shop as they'd be out of business.
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Angel Eyes » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:39 am

^ obviously I meant 'long post Vulture"'.

Blame posting from my phone and damn autocorrect :(
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Ultra-Gape » Thu Jan 10, 2019 1:52 am

TheVulture wrote:Now we tend to get every kind of repositioning, sections where girl's legs flail around or guys have to re-enter etc. Stuff that you just don't need. I've never understood that. It's a fantasy you're trying to create. Edits are part of creating that fantasy and are thus hot.


I feel the opposite to be honest, with the fewer obvious edits the better. For me this makes it feel much more real, and so hotter. I hate porn with loads of obvious edits.

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby hughroad » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:29 pm

The longer the better. More content to enjoy.

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby LegalPorno2016 » Thu Jan 10, 2019 2:40 pm

The Longer the scenes the better. The reason LegalPorno is what I like is because its not edited to fuck like a lot of the "bigger" companies. It is "Gonzo" Porn after all so I want to see as much of it as I can...it does not need to be edited in any way shape or form.

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby JayJams » Fri Jan 11, 2019 11:40 am

Don't know about the rest of you, but sometimes I just watch porn. No sex, no masturbating, just watch. Granted, I am usually working on something else on my computer (designs/photos/etc....multiple monitors), and simply have it on in the background if I'm not listening to music. So to me the longer the better. If I do jerk off or have sex, I don't mind if it takes me a couple of viewings to get through the whole scene.

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby ultimo » Fri Jan 11, 2019 2:58 pm

I would be ok with both shorter and some longer.
I admit I often skip past parts of videos that I don't want to watch so in theory I am making it shorter anyways.
That said, I still would love to see a very long video featuring content I want to watch: I have always wanted to see one of my favorite models DP'd for a very long time.

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Postby blublubeacha » Fri Jan 11, 2019 5:16 pm

longer scenes all the way. longer time for rectal treatments, more gape farts and a higher chance we get to see Buttrose

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Sweep11 » Sat Jan 12, 2019 1:29 am

Great topic and discussion.
I hardly ever watch a scene from start to finish without skipping. Just never have the time.
But longer scenes make for a different viewing experience of the same scene each time (so long as there is variety to begin with...IV..)

Also depends on mood. Sometimes you want to savour the girl slowly.
Other times you wanna get straight to the best bits, whatever that the best bits are for you.

I love the repositioning - watching a girl lower herself onto the next cock or get on her hands and knees, knowing shes gonna get plowed.
But...it's also a great point about the intensity. Longer scenes mean the guys have to pace themselves and don't go at it like a sex starved teenager.

No right answers here.
But maybe it'd be worth trying out a 'hard and fast' edit (like the wet and dry versions) to see how that goes down with consumers?

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby Ultra-Gape » Sat Jan 12, 2019 10:42 am

FWIW I am someone who watches 30-60 minute scenes from start to finish without skipping. What may be a factor here is I'll typically watch at most one scene per day whereas I can see for people who like to watch loads that shorter scenes and/or skipping will be of more interest.

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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby dap-addict » Sat Jan 12, 2019 11:04 am

FWIW I currently watch 2-3 LP scenes per day. I jump into DAP footage and check some positions, how the girl manages and how some studs dap her really or wheter they cheat not fucking her ass but just pretending. I might watch 30% of each scene only, all in all just over 1 hour of porn per day. Add 1 longer scene just for relax later on if gf isn't in yet late. ;)
Thus what I need is still footage to skip and maybe create another version next time I am interested in other aspects. All in all better 4x60min footage to choose from than 4x30min.
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Re: Unpopular opinion: Scenes should be shorter.

Postby kidloco2 » Sun Jan 13, 2019 4:34 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:As customer I somehow agree. I cant stand an anal scene that takes 20 minutes to arrive at the "core of the matter", sometimes I watch my own content, even the best scenes and I think they would be more explosive if we even record less footage. 30 minutes of intense anal sex would be enough for me, with 5 minutes intro at most.


I like 60 minutes scenes, but agree with you, 20 mins of intro without sex is bullshit. It already bothers me for sometime.

Intro 5-10mins., where one can see girl normally dressed would be good, but first pussy/anal toying of penetration should start even before that.
Like this:
1-2 mins establishing shot putting the viewer into the context. Introducing the girl and participants.

next 2-3 mins teasing, tits, pussy & ass out

next 5-10 mins I'd immediatelly start with brief pussy & anal sex / and or heavy duty anal play mixed with some
intermezzo short non sex parts, for example girl starts fucking in the dinning room, after brief sex she goes to check cooking food in the kitchen and sex resumes from there. What a surprise would be if she would pull a huge dildo out of one kitchen drawer. :D

After 15 mins from the scene start - full blown anal sex

Very intense anal sex like DAP should start at or before the middle of the scene for 60 mins scene. That's corresponding with your idea of 30 mins heavy anal sex.

I'm looking forward to your new line of mini plot scenes.
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