xxx wrote:The coding of this feature is almost done. Possibly complete already but not tested.
xxx wrote:The coding of this feature is almost done. Possibly complete already but not tested.
xxx wrote:The coding of this feature is almost done. Possibly complete already but not tested.
SuperKeksimus wrote:Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?
Depends on which country you are from, but where I am from - there is a mini-recession, high unemployment, high inflation, stock market volatility, and a serious cost of living crisis.
I think additional funds for crowdfunding a scene, or making financial payments to make CUSTOM scenes are currently not that popular, and regularly used.
Just using tickets to buy the scenes on a daily basis is an expensive cost that can be considered a luxury in itself...perhaps some people have incredible high salaries, and incredibly high disposable incomes, and will disagree...no?
SuperKeksimus wrote:xxxVIPERxxx wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?
Depends on which country you are from, but where I am from - there is a mini-recession, high unemployment, high inflation, stock market volatility, and a serious cost of living crisis.
I think additional funds for crowdfunding a scene, or making financial payments to make CUSTOM scenes are currently not that popular, and regularly used.
Just using tickets to buy the scenes on a daily basis is an expensive cost that can be considered a luxury in itself...perhaps some people have incredible high salaries, and incredibly high disposable incomes, and will disagree...no?
I agree! Of course order a custom scene how it realized now - is pretty expensive, because there is funding only from 1 person and if, for example that person wants to make a big gang-bang scene, or bukkake (for example) he need to pay a big budget ALONE (few thousands as I got).
BUT if here would be a crowdfunding platform, where "investors", can "build" a scene by voting system for example it will be a game-change.
Imagine:
1. A person (initiator) make an idea - for example world's most massive anal creampie scene with top actress. For posting idea website HOLDS his tokens, for example 100$.
2. Anyone can invest in scene in special list of ideas on special web-page with few options:
-Option 1: 10$ - person will receive a scene after release for free
-Option 2: 20$ - person will be able to choose the actress and studio
-Option 3: 50$ - Person will be able to choose actress outfit of makeup
3. I believe this system can attract a lot of guys who want to participate and easily will be possible to rise ~10.000$ for example from many people.
4. "Investors" making their chose by voting system
5. Studio negotioating with acresses and if everything alright filming a scene
6. Everybody in win-win situation. Costumers receiving a content they wanted for good price, studio receiving a free actress and actress receiving extra money.
If idea didnt receive enough money everyone just receiving their tokens back from hold. No risks.
misangrenegra2 wrote:The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released
To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.
And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.
I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.
SuperKeksimus wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released
To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.
And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.
I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.
6-7 custom scenes now just because each of them was funded by single person. It is not costs 10-100$, I think custom scene costs much more, so thats why it's only few per year.
And about the mess- it would be easy to manage it, just by an initial fee. For example to put the idea in crowdfunding section initiator need to pay 100$. Of course the sum could be increased if there will be some mess(or even decrease if there is would be low amount of ideas but I bet there is will be a lot), as you said. Just to avoid spam in section. Also maybe some ideas would be unreal to make - so after submitting the idea some guy with experience on the stage should filter it and approve or not (only from technical point of view)
And about the interface and control system of the money, man, it is already exist! Website can just HOLD your tokens and charge them only if scene is filmed. If not - they just need to UNHOLD it.
misangrenegra2 wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released
To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.
And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.
I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.
6-7 custom scenes now just because each of them was funded by single person. It is not costs 10-100$, I think custom scene costs much more, so thats why it's only few per year.
And about the mess- it would be easy to manage it, just by an initial fee. For example to put the idea in crowdfunding section initiator need to pay 100$. Of course the sum could be increased if there will be some mess(or even decrease if there is would be low amount of ideas but I bet there is will be a lot), as you said. Just to avoid spam in section. Also maybe some ideas would be unreal to make - so after submitting the idea some guy with experience on the stage should filter it and approve or not (only from technical point of view)
And about the interface and control system of the money, man, it is already exist! Website can just HOLD your tokens and charge them only if scene is filmed. If not - they just need to UNHOLD it.
I think you don't understood my point, and your posts are the prove of what i wrote.
The amount of 100$ to open a crowfounding for a scene is something quite assumible for a lot of people, does means there would be several ideas in that "interface" at the same time, the concept of a custome scene is something personal of a single person, that means give to a costumer the chance to see their own personal tastes/fetishes added in a scene for a amount of money.
In this way it feels that the initiator just want tempt the luck with a low risk and waiting that other people put the rest of the money to see filmed their own idea (lack of seriousness), also other people would be paying for the idea of other user.
I still seeing a lot of cons to managment that, there are other porn plataforms on exist the custom scene interface but not the crowfounding idea.
The current system is a good way to see who is serious when want order something.
SuperKeksimus wrote:In another words I'm sure that custom scene is NOT something personal. It can be very niche with low amount of supporters but most of the fetishes not very individual.
misangrenegra2 wrote:2 - Limit the number of inversors and a minimum quantity: i would say between 2 to 5 maximum (even 5 could be a problem). Why? because is pointless offer 5€ or 20$ and have 100 investors, it would be impossible have a proper control of who payed or not. The idea would be crowfounding, at least, the half of the money, even more, and establish a minimum quantity offered: i would say minimum 500$, if not is a waste of time
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