Crowdfunding a scene

[greenfunk727]

The option of crowdfunding a scene has been mentioned several times in the past with hints that this could be an option in the future. Are we making any progress with this?

I think this could be a total game changer around here for the following reasons:

1. Getting models that would otherwise be too expensive to get

2. Getting a model to do some crazy shit for the right price

3. The purchasing power of of a niche fetish - Finally the feet guys or the keep the heels on guys will finally have something to keep them happy.


I guess this is really a question for XXX. What are you planning XXX? Can you give us any updates or hints?

What does the forum think?

[Jocke]

Interesting idea!
I wonder which girl would be too expensive to hire and who still would do it at the right price. Would it be a mainstream actor who has fallen out of grace who could use the extra cash but has no potential for a real comeback?
Are we talking about a weather girl taking the next step (or jump lol!)
Is there some fantastic porn girl who is too expensive? I think not. I expect them to adjust their prices to what a studio could recover. Maybe some girls require a very large audience for it to pay back? My understanding is that the going rate is about $1k a day and maybe some could get double that? It is not like some girls could request $10k. Or that is at least my impression.
Maybe Alina Lopez' first anal? I wonder what Tushy paid ElsaJean? Lovely girl but her first anal scenes were badly scripted and filmed. She had also totally changed her appearance to grown up, boobed, inked and made up. Not the little giggly kid you wanted to see experiencing her first butt opener. Her scene getting ass eaten by Adriano was much better.

There are some girls I would crowdfund to do a piss scene. Brooklyn Gray. She has already done it and has a "Urinal" tattoo on her lip. Elsa Jean has done solo pissing and talked about wet sex in interviews. Emily Willis has posted private wet clips. Casey Calvert too.

I am probably not getting a full crowd for this but I would pay for wet reverse gangbangs where one lucky guy gets pissed on by multiple girls.

I would also pay for someone shitting on Manuel Ferrara and I wouldn't have to watch the scene, lol!

[greenfunk727]

I've seen a few comments from LP producers of the years hinting that they were in talks with certain models but their rates were too high to complete the deal - I think adriana Chechik was one.

With other ways for top models to make money such as [spam] and cam sites top models don't need studios. For a higher fee you would be able to get more expensive models, personally I would like to see Nicolette Shea. Would she appear in an anal gangbang with current rates? No chance but for a higher fee maybe!

[amber75]

somebody interested in crowdfunding a gangbang/bukkake scene with Alyssa Reece?

[xxx]

The coding of this feature is almost done. Possibly complete already but not tested.

[DPraved]

The coding of this feature is almost done. Possibly complete already but not tested.

Only 80% left to go then! (You know about the 80/20 rule I presume. )

[Starrio]

I would love to see JAV stars doing uncensored European gangbangs, however I doubt even with crowdfunding we could make it happen.

Maybe some of the cheaper ones, but the top ones are too expensive, or probably have really tight contracts that won't allow them.

I remember Tina Yuzuki (Rio) was making 30K U.S. $ per movie, and she retired a few years ago, so maybe they pay more now. She had over 100 movies, so I doubt she would have made anything on the West.

Those girls are rich, appear on soap operas, movies, TV series, are TV Show hosts, all kind of advertisement campaigns, and some have music careers all while doing bukkake gangbang porn. Yua Mikami for example has her own pop music group:

https://youtu.be/LAOT6JscCVU

The less popular ones however are not that hard to get, but still, the cool thing would be to get the stars, but I'm afraid those are pretty unreachable.

[greenfunk727]

Awesome. Can you give us a heads up on how the system is going to work?

The coding of this feature is almost done. Possibly complete already but not tested.

[SuperKeksimus]

The coding of this feature is almost done. Possibly complete already but not tested.

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For example I would like to see a scenes where young virgin actress working in anal-only scenes in 5 parts(possible to film it for a week maybe, actress can sleep with anal plug and relaxation fisting lube all the time to open her ass):
1. Toys
2. Anal gangbang, all sperm collecting in a freezer
3. DAP gangbang, all sperm collecting in a freezer
4. TAP gangbang, anal fisting, all sperm collecting in a freezer
5. Actress fixed in doggy style with opened mouth with a gag and from both sides guys coming and cumming in her ass and in her open mouth, a lot of guys, like in bukkake movies, 300+ cumshots in total. Later all cumshots from her ass and from the freezer should be mixxed in one and she should drink it from a huge glass cup (~1 liter) After that someone fucks her throat to make her puke with all the cum and she drink it again. Few times. For this scene I think hard to find a girl, but if we can collect for her 50k$ I think it is possible.
What do you think?

[SuperKeksimus]

Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?

Depends on which country you are from, but where I am from - there is a mini-recession, high unemployment, high inflation, stock market volatility, and a serious cost of living crisis.
I think additional funds for crowdfunding a scene, or making financial payments to make CUSTOM scenes are currently not that popular, and regularly used.
Just using tickets to buy the scenes on a daily basis is an expensive cost that can be considered a luxury in itself...perhaps some people have incredible high salaries, and incredibly high disposable incomes, and will disagree...no?

[SuperKeksimus]

Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?

Depends on which country you are from, but where I am from - there is a mini-recession, high unemployment, high inflation, stock market volatility, and a serious cost of living crisis.
I think additional funds for crowdfunding a scene, or making financial payments to make CUSTOM scenes are currently not that popular, and regularly used.
Just using tickets to buy the scenes on a daily basis is an expensive cost that can be considered a luxury in itself...perhaps some people have incredible high salaries, and incredibly high disposable incomes, and will disagree...no?

I agree! Of course order a custom scene how it realized now - is pretty expensive, because there is funding only from 1 person and if, for example that person wants to make a big gang-bang scene, or bukkake (for example) he need to pay a big budget ALONE (few thousands as I got).
BUT if here would be a crowdfunding platform, where "investors", can "build" a scene by voting system for example it will be a game-change.
Imagine:
1. A person (initiator) make an idea - for example world's most massive anal creampie scene with top actress. For posting idea website HOLDS his tokens, for example 100$.
2. Anyone can invest in scene in special list of ideas on special web-page with few options:
-Option 1: 10$ - person will receive a scene after release for free
-Option 2: 20$ - person will be able to choose the actress and studio
-Option 3: 50$ - Person will be able to choose actress outfit of makeup
3. I believe this system can attract a lot of guys who want to participate and easily will be possible to rise ~10.000$ for example from many people.
4. "Investors" making their chose by voting system
5. Studio negotioating with acresses and if everything alright filming a scene
6. Everybody in win-win situation. Costumers receiving a content they wanted for good price, studio receiving a free actress and actress receiving extra money.
If idea didnt receive enough money everyone just receiving their tokens back from hold. No risks.

[SuperKeksimus]

Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?

Depends on which country you are from, but where I am from - there is a mini-recession, high unemployment, high inflation, stock market volatility, and a serious cost of living crisis.
I think additional funds for crowdfunding a scene, or making financial payments to make CUSTOM scenes are currently not that popular, and regularly used.
Just using tickets to buy the scenes on a daily basis is an expensive cost that can be considered a luxury in itself...perhaps some people have incredible high salaries, and incredibly high disposable incomes, and will disagree...no?

I agree! Of course order a custom scene how it realized now - is pretty expensive, because there is funding only from 1 person and if, for example that person wants to make a big gang-bang scene, or bukkake (for example) he need to pay a big budget ALONE (few thousands as I got).
BUT if here would be a crowdfunding platform, where "investors", can "build" a scene by voting system for example it will be a game-change.
Imagine:
1. A person (initiator) make an idea - for example world's most massive anal creampie scene with top actress. For posting idea website HOLDS his tokens, for example 100$.
2. Anyone can invest in scene in special list of ideas on special web-page with few options:
-Option 1: 10$ - person will receive a scene after release for free
-Option 2: 20$ - person will be able to choose the actress and studio
-Option 3: 50$ - Person will be able to choose actress outfit of makeup
3. I believe this system can attract a lot of guys who want to participate and easily will be possible to rise ~10.000$ for example from many people.
4. "Investors" making their chose by voting system
5. Studio negotioating with acresses and if everything alright filming a scene
6. Everybody in win-win situation. Costumers receiving a content they wanted for good price, studio receiving a free actress and actress receiving extra money.
If idea didnt receive enough money everyone just receiving their tokens back from hold. No risks.

For example for rising a huge budget of 10000$ for scene just need a 800 guys with option 1 - they will receive the result for free. And ~100 guys who really like the idea (option 2 and 3) - they will have a right to vote for actress and studio. Is that a lot? I don't think so.
I believe this mechanic will bring new costumers in industry - people who want to write ideas and vote for them. As well it will bring new actresses too - because huge amont money they can receive in a short period of time (more than usually they got paid)

[misangrenegra2]

The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released

To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.

And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.

I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.

[SuperKeksimus]

The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released

To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.

And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.

I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.

6-7 custom scenes now just because each of them was funded by single person. It is not costs 10-100$, I think custom scene costs much more, so thats why it's only few per year.

And about the mess- it would be easy to manage it, just by an initial fee. For example to put the idea in crowdfunding section initiator need to pay 100$. Of course the sum could be increased if there will be some mess(or even decrease if there is would be low amount of ideas but I bet there is will be a lot), as you said. Just to avoid spam in section. Also maybe some ideas would be unreal to make - so after submitting the idea some guy with experience on the stage should filter it and approve or not (only from technical point of view)

And about the interface and control system of the money, man, it is already exist! Website can just HOLD your tokens and charge them only if scene is filmed. If not - they just need to UNHOLD it.

[misangrenegra2]

The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released

To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.

And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.

I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.

6-7 custom scenes now just because each of them was funded by single person. It is not costs 10-100$, I think custom scene costs much more, so thats why it's only few per year.

And about the mess- it would be easy to manage it, just by an initial fee. For example to put the idea in crowdfunding section initiator need to pay 100$. Of course the sum could be increased if there will be some mess(or even decrease if there is would be low amount of ideas but I bet there is will be a lot), as you said. Just to avoid spam in section. Also maybe some ideas would be unreal to make - so after submitting the idea some guy with experience on the stage should filter it and approve or not (only from technical point of view)

And about the interface and control system of the money, man, it is already exist! Website can just HOLD your tokens and charge them only if scene is filmed. If not - they just need to UNHOLD it.

I think you don't understood my point, and your posts are the prove of what i wrote.

The amount of 100$ to open a crowfounding for a scene is something quite assumible for a lot of people, does means there would be several ideas in that "interface" at the same time, the concept of a custome scene is something personal of a single person, that means give to a costumer the chance to see their own personal tastes/fetishes added in a scene for a amount of money.

In this way it feels that the initiator just want tempt the luck with a low risk and waiting that other people put the rest of the money to see filmed their own idea (lack of seriousness), also other people would be paying for the idea of other user.

I still seeing a lot of cons to managment that, there are other porn plataforms on exist the custom scene interface but not the crowfounding idea.

The current system is a good way to see who is serious when want order something.

[SuperKeksimus]

The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released

To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.

And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.

I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.

6-7 custom scenes now just because each of them was funded by single person. It is not costs 10-100$, I think custom scene costs much more, so thats why it's only few per year.

And about the mess- it would be easy to manage it, just by an initial fee. For example to put the idea in crowdfunding section initiator need to pay 100$. Of course the sum could be increased if there will be some mess(or even decrease if there is would be low amount of ideas but I bet there is will be a lot), as you said. Just to avoid spam in section. Also maybe some ideas would be unreal to make - so after submitting the idea some guy with experience on the stage should filter it and approve or not (only from technical point of view)

And about the interface and control system of the money, man, it is already exist! Website can just HOLD your tokens and charge them only if scene is filmed. If not - they just need to UNHOLD it.

I think you don't understood my point, and your posts are the prove of what i wrote.

The amount of 100$ to open a crowfounding for a scene is something quite assumible for a lot of people, does means there would be several ideas in that "interface" at the same time, the concept of a custome scene is something personal of a single person, that means give to a costumer the chance to see their own personal tastes/fetishes added in a scene for a amount of money.

In this way it feels that the initiator just want tempt the luck with a low risk and waiting that other people put the rest of the money to see filmed their own idea (lack of seriousness), also other people would be paying for the idea of other user.

I still seeing a lot of cons to managment that, there are other porn plataforms on exist the custom scene interface but not the crowfounding idea.

The current system is a good way to see who is serious when want order something.

What you say would be true if the number of fetishes were equal or approximately equal to the number of people on the planet. The number of fetishes is limited and they coincide with many people. I think if someone made the idea of ​​a multiple double anal creampie scene (it was already filmed few, but we have lack of it) or TAP with a favorite actress who hasn't done TAP, many would support it.
The way how it works now: Everyone follow fetishes of only few guys (directors). I mean I like most of it, but option of crowdfund the scene will decrease costs of the scene for studio, increase amount of money for model and attract new costumers, who wants to participate in production (remotely by voting and suggesting).
I don't see any cons here, only pros for everybody (studio, model, costumers)
And development of tis function is cheap as well, cause token system is already exist.
And the current system is good only for people who able to spend few thousands and sponsor the whole scene, not everybody can do it and that's why we talking here about crowdfunding.

[SuperKeksimus]

In another words I'm sure that custom scene is NOT something personal. It can be very niche with low amount of supporters but most of the fetishes not very individual.

[SuperKeksimus]

Bump! Mells Blanco in her insta did a repost of finding a sponsors to fund or crowdfund the gangbang scene with fans.
The girls themselves have already come to the conclusion that crowdfunding is cool, all that remains is to create this functionality on the site. Come on, studios, don’t you need money?

[misangrenegra2]

In another words I'm sure that custom scene is NOT something personal. It can be very niche with low amount of supporters but most of the fetishes not very individual.

Man, i'm going to give you and advice/idea.

The crowfounding system has been demanded for a while but considering the time passed i wouldn't expect the implementation, at least in short time.

I'm still thinking that something custome is quite personal, because you want the things as are in your mind.

If the problem is that only one person cannot finance the whole scene then.. Why don't you make a proper thread to make a crowfounding?

I think the best thing to could accomplish a crowfounding would be:

1 - First at all: seriousness and compromise. If you really want to order a custom scene, do it, write a plot and offer a big quantity to be reasonable, if you offer a low quantity no ones will take you seriously.

2 - Limit the number of inversors and a minimum quantity: i would say between 2 to 5 maximum (even 5 could be a problem). Why? because is pointless offer 5€ or 20$ and have 100 investors, it would be impossible have a proper control of who payed or not. The idea would be crowfounding, at least, the half of the money, even more, and establish a minimum quantity offered: i would say minimum 500$, if not is a waste of time

2 - Storyline, girl/s, stud/s, outfit/s, scenario. The quantity of money should be big if you want that the director accept a plot, if not only would be add some generic things like: Add food play, add a pronebone position. They take the whole risk, a whole plot needs the majority of the scene costs so that is the reason to be a few serious investors with a considerable minimum quantity.

3 - When you accomplish the target for the scene (a quantity of money, serious investors), talk and discuss with the studio and explain EVERYTHING with the maximum details and the money that you and the guys want to offer.

4 - Keep the thread and the investors properly informed with all the conversation because surely would be changes or some kind of offer.

5 - After all that, if you get a deal, then post the deal and demand to the rest of investors to give the money to the studio throught the PB chat in the "tip" option with a summary for what means that quantity tiped, FIRST AT ALL, you should ask if the director would accept that kind of payment of the whole investors.

I think this is a "realistic" way to do it, always of course, if you find some people who wants to support your whole plot with a big quantity. There isn't a interface so the best way could be edit and keep informed the first thread.

After that, is your choice or the choice of someone else if are conviced to do it and be responsable of present a serious idea and a big quantity.

[misangrenegra2]

2 - Limit the number of inversors and a minimum quantity: i would say between 2 to 5 maximum (even 5 could be a problem). Why? because is pointless offer 5€ or 20$ and have 100 investors, it would be impossible have a proper control of who payed or not. The idea would be crowfounding, at least, the half of the money, even more, and establish a minimum quantity offered: i would say minimum 500$, if not is a waste of time

Correction: 500$, even more, per each investor, not between all them, that would be a joke..