Who stole the color from your scenes?

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Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby staygold » Sat Sep 03, 2016 6:15 pm

This artificial washed-out white is horrible. There are sometimes very nice girls and sexual acts, but that kind of bleaching makes everything look like shit.

All the recent scenes look identical:

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Jesus. Even black-and-white would look better than this.

Just. Stop. It. Please.

Make at least half of the scenes in normal light for a start.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Sir Noel » Sat Sep 03, 2016 9:40 pm

I coudn't disagree more. I think the recent lighting has been superb for porn.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Boshanks » Sat Sep 03, 2016 10:19 pm

sirnoelplum wrote:I coudn't disagree more. I think the recent lighting has been superb for porn.


Agreed.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Vawkes » Sun Sep 04, 2016 2:14 am

Don't change a thing!

The lighting of current scenes is great and looks superb in 4K.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby getjet19 » Sun Sep 04, 2016 3:48 am

Lighting is amazing for me too! Don't change anything and continue your great work Giorgio!

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby staygold » Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:29 am

My monitor is good. Just compare this to what GG did before:

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^ These had shape, shadows and color.. The crap GG's making today is identical, artificial and unwatchable because of shit light and shit postproduction.

Anyway, I hope these guys here are at least paid for promotion. They were promoting when things were totally different, they do it now, they will probably do it if GG goes for 100% white. Let's wait for another episode of Black Busta Bleached: Blown-out White Overexposed:

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Be like Amazing! Don't change a thing! Keep up the good work! ;) And I'll go watch those other colorful movies instead...

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Luby » Sun Sep 04, 2016 9:51 am

I dont like these colorless movies too.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Vawkes » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:12 am

You look to be outnumbered, staygold.

The current style is not colourless at all. Scenes are just brighter and making everything clearer to see. I recently compared an older scene to GG's current work and found the older scene to be too dark and features/details were lost even in 4K quality.

Good luck with the other studios: Sineplex with their out of focus camera, or Gonzo.com who mostly make their scenes too bright or too dark.

Current lighting of GG scenes is just perfect and brings the scene to life. Keep up the great work Giorgio!

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Sir Noel » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:32 am

His scenes are currently very well lit, true, but they are not washed out. A washed out scene would be where the brightness is set too high and blacks are no longer black (and light regions are properly washed out because near whites are all rendered 255,255,255 white).
None of this is true here. Sure bro, the scenes may not be lit to your tastes but they are not washed out.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Perenini » Sun Sep 04, 2016 1:46 pm

I like very much of the current style.
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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby BoobJesus » Sun Sep 04, 2016 11:00 pm

I prefer Gio's old lighting more, but I'm content enough with this new sunny, natural lighting. What's most important is that the camera quality has gone up quite a bit. I just love how you now can so clearly make out stuff like the girl's nose hairs and tonsils.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Vawkes » Mon Sep 05, 2016 11:21 am

In addition to seeing great content, picture quality is everything in my view. That's why I download Giorgio's new 4K scenes. Amazing!

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:09 pm

The color "you like' is actually one artefact created by a special picture profile sett up on my old camera (Sony). Like you can clearly see in the shots you posted, the "white" is not white, it looks white, but if you check better here we go... you just expressing your absolute ignorance in the audiovisual field.
This is absolutely NOT NATURAL COLOR.

The actual setup on my DSLR camera is more realistic and the color is more close to reality then before. Just for let you know, the camera I use is based on the technology used on photo camera, not the old technology actually used on most of video camera. This is the reason why the color is close to reality like never before.
You are probably a part of a small group of nostalgic 90s, you are a small minority as my content are selling more then ever before. Sadly in 90s halogen illumination was the king in porn, specially in Europe. The color you like is a classic example of halogen illumination and several filter in post production, in 2015 the "picture profile" is able to create the same effect... technology )))

I usual take care of comments from the users, but I wont change anything about settings on my camera, I will probably in future try to have a even more blurry background. I do not use a cinematic picture profile, and about the post production, except then bright up few dark part if necessary, we do not apply any filter. You have also to understand that I shoot only with natural illumination, what you want from me is simply stupid to achieve with sun light/DSLR camera. Its like to pretend a battle of red whine with a meal of sea food: simply a bullshit.

Sadly I am not also even sure if it worth to penalise the video in favour of the photos, I think avoiding to shoot pictures, the quality/intensity of the video increase of about 20% IMHO, so I am thinking to avoid hard core picture at all, but I think that we could create caps and animated gif of the best parts from the raw 4k video... we will see.
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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby bronicas » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:22 pm

I suggest u please continue what you are doing. we could differentiate the quality when u r doing closeup shots. Its superb, I love the bree haze scene of Chapman.. Thanks a lot GG looking more exciting to watch ur scenes... Great models great picture.. Cheers

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Sir Noel » Mon Sep 05, 2016 1:58 pm

Vawkes wrote:In addition to seeing great content, picture quality is everything in my view. That's why I download Giorgio's new 4K scenes. Amazing!


What (happily) amazes me is that Giorgio has gone from someone who always frustrated me with great content that was always bafflingly blurrier than everyone elses material to suddently producing the sharpest material of all. It is a shame, i am looking through his material i have from only a year or so ago and thinking how they are like night and day to what he is making now. Sure, the action was superb back then (as it was with his old site) but the picture quality is a world away.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby magizi877 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 6:04 pm

I wanted to comment on the pictures quality. But not the technical aspects like color accuracy, resolution etc.
I want to comment on the artistic side. And in particular the glamour pictures. (when the girls are posing).

I think that part of the product is rushed. They are just not good.
The girls don't pose sexy enough and well, not many positions are explored.
It's like, you don't give the girls a chance to shine.

This is a porn website, you need to offer pictures that are more sexualized.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby kidloco2 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 8:19 pm

Giorgio, if scenes are selling as they are I totally understand you are not going to change anything soon, but don't automatically think even for a second that if it's selling good everything must be superior as well, especially image q. [/quote]

It's interesting how silently you passed my screens with "1 second" histograms in another thread which show excessive overexposure (some portions of the video has over 10% of the frame 255, 255, 255!), red channel bias and overall really poor post/IQ control skills. I know what you will reply - that we don't understand it etc. - yes, most of us don't, but of us do very well. Anyway unless we know exactly your workflow it's gonna be blah blah blah. P.S. I don't even think there's proper color correction and color grading involved in you process. P.P.S. Change your lens (they're good for still camera but limits your camcoder perforamnce) and shoot C-log for fucks sake!

Regarding pictures, I'd avoid them at all, I bet you can shoot one scene more per day if you omit them, it's not Met Art, no 20MPx stills needed. Stills from the 4k camcoder good enough, even better with cine lens.

Don't get me wrong, still a big fan of you, but when comes to arguing about IQ when it's clearly has issues, my blood starts boiling. And I'm really glad you had listened one year ago and resolved shadows and underexp. issues, but lately it's slipping again - the opposite way.

The product is better when it has better consistency in parameters, but you made it for yourself very hard with shooting daylight in front of huge windows with ever changing lighting conditions in Czech. But your decision.
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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Vawkes » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:30 pm

Great response to the subject, Giorgio. Your video and production is flawless and as close to perfection as I have seen. However, what do you mean by this comment about blurriness?

Giorgio Grandi wrote:I will probably in future try to have a even more blurry background.


Why would you make the background blurry in future? Please don't change a thing! Your current work is superb and you shouldn't change anything.

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby magizi877 » Mon Sep 05, 2016 10:48 pm

I think it's that technique used to put the background out of focus

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Re: Who stole the color from your scenes?

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Tue Sep 06, 2016 9:03 am

kidloco2 wrote:Giorgio, if scenes are selling as they are I totally understand you are not going to change anything soon, but don't automatically think even for a second that if it's selling good everything must be superior as well, especially image q.


It's interesting how silently you passed my screens with "1 second" histograms in another thread which show excessive overexposure (some portions of the video has over 10% of the frame 255, 255, 255!), red channel bias and overall really poor post/IQ control skills. I know what you will reply - that we don't understand it etc. - yes, most of us don't, but of us do very well. Anyway unless we know exactly your workflow it's gonna be blah blah blah. P.S. I don't even think there's proper color correction and color grading involved in you process. P.P.S. Change your lens (they're good for still camera but limits your camcoder perforamnce) and shoot C-log for fucks sake!

Regarding pictures, I'd avoid them at all, I bet you can shoot one scene more per day if you omit them, it's not Met Art, no 20MPx stills needed. Stills from the 4k camcoder good enough, even better with cine lens.

Don't get me wrong, still a big fan of you, but when comes to arguing about IQ when it's clearly has issues, my blood starts boiling. And I'm really glad you had listened one year ago and resolved shadows and underexp. issues, but lately it's slipping again - the opposite way.

The product is better when it has better consistency in parameters, but you made it for yourself very hard with shooting daylight in front of huge windows with ever changing lighting conditions in Czech. But your decision.[/quote]

The light in CZ can change from minute to minute, I agree is strange, but technically I compensate manually where is possible, so it can take few seconds. This problem will be less visible in the winter then in the summer.
Lens: you are wrong, to use a cine lens will decrease the intensity of the video because of the many cut I will be forced to do for problems of focus.
C-Log: I tried and I do not like it.
Post production: with the LOG I am using the postproduction is not suggested (we tried and the result sucks), color correction alterare the nature of the color/light. Like I told you this LOG doesnt need correction.

I decided to use natural illumination, and I wont change. Even if with problematic connected to the change of light condition during the shooting, I think its better the artificial illumination.

I know you do not like my answer, but this is how it works.
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