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SuperKeksimus wrote:Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?
Depends on which country you are from, but where I am from - there is a mini-recession, high unemployment, high inflation, stock market volatility, and a serious cost of living crisis.
I think additional funds for crowdfunding a scene, or making financial payments to make CUSTOM scenes are currently not that popular, and regularly used.
Just using tickets to buy the scenes on a daily basis is an expensive cost that can be considered a luxury in itself...perhaps some people have incredible high salaries, and incredibly high disposable incomes, and will disagree...no?
SuperKeksimus wrote:xxxVIPERxxx wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:Bump!
So, any news or ideas here?
It seems like a perfect growth point in industry.
Win-Win situation.
1. By crowdfunding possible to rise a budget for actress and get really pretty new ones.
I saw some messages here from productions (GIO I think) he wrote about some girls who expecting more than in market, by crowdfunding will be possible to pay $10.000 or more to actress.
2. Studio won't spend money on actress - no risks for studio. Studio interest will be in receiving 100% of money from the selling of crowdfunded scene (in case if crowdfunding is only for actress budget) or + some crowdfunding money (I don't know about calculations in industry but I guess the budget for actress is biggest part from production budget in general)
3. No risks for investors - if the scene didn't get enough money - everyone receive money back.
4. Porn now is like a TV - everyone in the world watching content which already filmed - people don't have any influence on it, can't make own scenarios, choose actors and actresses. And lots of people watching for free - like TV. But I think if they will able to crowdfund the scene - those people who watch for free now - will pay for the right to choose the plot of the scene, actress, actions etc. For example 1000 of men will pay 10$ each to bring their favorite actress to their favorite studio (Veronika Leal in Premium Bukkake for example) or initiator can try to make his own plot - and rise money for it from the people who likes it.
So, your thoughts?
Depends on which country you are from, but where I am from - there is a mini-recession, high unemployment, high inflation, stock market volatility, and a serious cost of living crisis.
I think additional funds for crowdfunding a scene, or making financial payments to make CUSTOM scenes are currently not that popular, and regularly used.
Just using tickets to buy the scenes on a daily basis is an expensive cost that can be considered a luxury in itself...perhaps some people have incredible high salaries, and incredibly high disposable incomes, and will disagree...no?
I agree! Of course order a custom scene how it realized now - is pretty expensive, because there is funding only from 1 person and if, for example that person wants to make a big gang-bang scene, or bukkake (for example) he need to pay a big budget ALONE (few thousands as I got).
BUT if here would be a crowdfunding platform, where "investors", can "build" a scene by voting system for example it will be a game-change.
Imagine:
1. A person (initiator) make an idea - for example world's most massive anal creampie scene with top actress. For posting idea website HOLDS his tokens, for example 100$.
2. Anyone can invest in scene in special list of ideas on special web-page with few options:
-Option 1: 10$ - person will receive a scene after release for free
-Option 2: 20$ - person will be able to choose the actress and studio
-Option 3: 50$ - Person will be able to choose actress outfit of makeup
3. I believe this system can attract a lot of guys who want to participate and easily will be possible to rise ~10.000$ for example from many people.
4. "Investors" making their chose by voting system
5. Studio negotioating with acresses and if everything alright filming a scene
6. Everybody in win-win situation. Costumers receiving a content they wanted for good price, studio receiving a free actress and actress receiving extra money.
If idea didnt receive enough money everyone just receiving their tokens back from hold. No risks.
misangrenegra2 wrote:The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released
To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.
And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.
I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.
SuperKeksimus wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released
To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.
And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.
I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.
6-7 custom scenes now just because each of them was funded by single person. It is not costs 10-100$, I think custom scene costs much more, so thats why it's only few per year.
And about the mess- it would be easy to manage it, just by an initial fee. For example to put the idea in crowdfunding section initiator need to pay 100$. Of course the sum could be increased if there will be some mess(or even decrease if there is would be low amount of ideas but I bet there is will be a lot), as you said. Just to avoid spam in section. Also maybe some ideas would be unreal to make - so after submitting the idea some guy with experience on the stage should filter it and approve or not (only from technical point of view)
And about the interface and control system of the money, man, it is already exist! Website can just HOLD your tokens and charge them only if scene is filmed. If not - they just need to UNHOLD it.
misangrenegra2 wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:misangrenegra2 wrote:The crowdfunding system is something that has been discussed here since years but never has been confirmed to be developed. XXX said in this thread that was almost done (2021), we are in 2024 and never was released
To be honest, would be a mess because everyone will start to create ideas/scripts to start a crowfounding and surely the initial amount wouldn't be high because the creator of the idea will thinking that others users will put the rest of the money, if there are a lot of ideas, the money just will be splitted. Also the fact of develope that interface and the control system of the money, a control system of the availability (time) , etc etc needs time.
And the most important thing to have in mind is if the director accept the idea. Don't know, i see there are a lot of cons (above all management) in comparision with the number of ideas that really would be executed. Think in a medium scale, for example, 200-250 ideas for crowdfunding in a specific studio, how would be possible to handle that.
I'm agree with xxxVIPERxxx, since the "custom scene" interface is available, actually we can count like 6-7 custom scenes if i remember well, and this interface has like 3 years or more.
6-7 custom scenes now just because each of them was funded by single person. It is not costs 10-100$, I think custom scene costs much more, so thats why it's only few per year.
And about the mess- it would be easy to manage it, just by an initial fee. For example to put the idea in crowdfunding section initiator need to pay 100$. Of course the sum could be increased if there will be some mess(or even decrease if there is would be low amount of ideas but I bet there is will be a lot), as you said. Just to avoid spam in section. Also maybe some ideas would be unreal to make - so after submitting the idea some guy with experience on the stage should filter it and approve or not (only from technical point of view)
And about the interface and control system of the money, man, it is already exist! Website can just HOLD your tokens and charge them only if scene is filmed. If not - they just need to UNHOLD it.
I think you don't understood my point, and your posts are the prove of what i wrote.
The amount of 100$ to open a crowfounding for a scene is something quite assumible for a lot of people, does means there would be several ideas in that "interface" at the same time, the concept of a custome scene is something personal of a single person, that means give to a costumer the chance to see their own personal tastes/fetishes added in a scene for a amount of money.
In this way it feels that the initiator just want tempt the luck with a low risk and waiting that other people put the rest of the money to see filmed their own idea (lack of seriousness), also other people would be paying for the idea of other user.
I still seeing a lot of cons to managment that, there are other porn plataforms on exist the custom scene interface but not the crowfounding idea.
The current system is a good way to see who is serious when want order something.
SuperKeksimus wrote:In another words I'm sure that custom scene is NOT something personal. It can be very niche with low amount of supporters but most of the fetishes not very individual.
misangrenegra2 wrote:2 - Limit the number of inversors and a minimum quantity: i would say between 2 to 5 maximum (even 5 could be a problem). Why? because is pointless offer 5€ or 20$ and have 100 investors, it would be impossible have a proper control of who payed or not. The idea would be crowfounding, at least, the half of the money, even more, and establish a minimum quantity offered: i would say minimum 500$, if not is a waste of time
misangrenegra2 wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:In another words I'm sure that custom scene is NOT something personal. It can be very niche with low amount of supporters but most of the fetishes not very individual.
Man, i'm going to give you and advice/idea.
The crowfounding system has been demanded for a while but considering the time passed i wouldn't expect the implementation, at least in short time.
I'm still thinking that something custome is quite personal, because you want the things as are in your mind.
If the problem is that only one person cannot finance the whole scene then.. Why don't you make a proper thread to make a crowfounding?
I think the best thing to could accomplish a crowfounding would be:
1 - First at all: seriousness and compromise. If you really want to order a custom scene, do it, write a plot and offer a big quantity to be reasonable, if you offer a low quantity no ones will take you seriously.
2 - Limit the number of inversors and a minimum quantity: i would say between 2 to 5 maximum (even 5 could be a problem). Why? because is pointless offer 5€ or 20$ and have 100 investors, it would be impossible have a proper control of who payed or not. The idea would be crowfounding, at least, the half of the money, even more, and establish a minimum quantity offered: i would say minimum 500$, if not is a waste of time
2 - Storyline, girl/s, stud/s, outfit/s, scenario. The quantity of money should be big if you want that the director accept a plot, if not only would be add some generic things like: Add food play, add a pronebone position. They take the whole risk, a whole plot needs the majority of the scene costs so that is the reason to be a few serious investors with a considerable minimum quantity.
3 - When you accomplish the target for the scene (a quantity of money, serious investors), talk and discuss with the studio and explain EVERYTHING with the maximum details and the money that you and the guys want to offer.
4 - Keep the thread and the investors properly informed with all the conversation because surely would be changes or some kind of offer.
5 - After all that, if you get a deal, then post the deal and demand to the rest of investors to give the money to the studio throught the PB chat in the "tip" option with a summary for what means that quantity tiped, FIRST AT ALL, you should ask if the director would accept that kind of payment of the whole investors.
I think this is a "realistic" way to do it, always of course, if you find some people who wants to support your whole plot with a big quantity. There isn't a interface so the best way could be edit and keep informed the first thread.
After that, is your choice or the choice of someone else if are conviced to do it and be responsable of present a serious idea and a big quantity.
SuperKeksimus wrote:Bump! Mells Blanco in her insta did a repost of finding a sponsors to fund or crowdfund the gangbang scene with fans.
SuperKeksimus wrote:Thank you for the advise, but I'm talking about to make an interface option on the website, trustable website like pornbox or analvids, with traffic and interested users. This would be a porn revolution, finally connection between studio and users.
It's working way, thats you described, but it would work for 1 time only and I'm talking about general interface, general solution, a revolution in industry.
Some adult games pages on patreon collecting 50-100k$ montly just from subscribers, imagine WHAT could do onle studio with this money? Possible way to do it, is subscription like on patreon, with votes or crowdfunding a scene or even both...
misangrenegra2 wrote:SuperKeksimus wrote:Thank you for the advise, but I'm talking about to make an interface option on the website, trustable website like pornbox or analvids, with traffic and interested users. This would be a porn revolution, finally connection between studio and users.
It's working way, thats you described, but it would work for 1 time only and I'm talking about general interface, general solution, a revolution in industry.
Some adult games pages on patreon collecting 50-100k$ montly just from subscribers, imagine WHAT could do onle studio with this money? Possible way to do it, is subscription like on patreon, with votes or crowdfunding a scene or even both...
Since several years, a crowdfunding platform has been "requested" by a few users.
There is nothing that make me think that gonna appears what you are waiting.
That will be the easy way but for me you are not completely commited with make a custom order, basically you want write a script and wait that the others users pay for your idea. Would be reasonable if that system exists here but now you have 2 options.
1 - Pay the whole order only you.
2 - Find between 3 or 5 users willing to put a big amount
Until then, if you want make some order you only have those 2 choices.
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I have accrued well in excess of 10,000 paid for scenes on LPAV/PB...you can go so far as to say that I am serial collector and watcher of hardcore/extreme porn.
What I contributed to those 10,000+ premium porn scenes is quite a significant amount of money...so I would not be willing to crowdfund any scenes.
kookaburra wrote:Rocky & Olivia pair is so hot, wish it's on LP site radar..and some day they would consider my request..I may want he major producer of this scene..
What are your thoughts?
dap-addict wrote:kookaburra wrote:Rocky & Olivia pair is so hot, wish it's on LP site radar..and some day they would consider my request..I may want he major producer of this scene..
What are your thoughts?
Dream on!
Completly unrealistic and also extremely expensive.
kookaburra wrote:Please don't shock me saying it's multi million $$$ shoot.
I throwed 7 ideas, hopefully at least three will be ok for them..
(1) Double vagina
(2) Double Anal
(3) piss drinking - Rocky did many times
(4) puke shots - Rocky did in Blackpayback
(5) Face Spit & face slap - Rocky did in Blackpayback
(6) puke in others mouth
(7) Nasty rim jobs.dap-addict wrote:kookaburra wrote:Rocky & Olivia pair is so hot, wish it's on LP site radar..and some day they would consider my request..I may want he major producer of this scene..
What are your thoughts?
Dream on!
Completly unrealistic and also extremely expensive.
Chimpy.677 wrote:I don't know why they want that here, people on this forum seem to be all morons, I'm sure that if they were to do a crowdfunding scene it would be the same old scenes with the same old actresses doing the same old thing.
They are capable of putting together a crowdfunding scene with an actress they've seen a million times doing the same thing instead of putting together a scene with a model who has never done porn doing her first DP/DAP.
Chimpy.677 wrote:I don't know why they want that here, people on this forum seem to be all morons, I'm sure that if they were to do a crowdfunding scene it would be the same old scenes with the same old actresses doing the same old thing.
They are capable of putting together a crowdfunding scene with an actress they've seen a million times doing the same thing instead of putting together a scene with a model who has never done porn doing her first DP/DAP.
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