Can we have a little more variety ?

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Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby pastaga » Thu Oct 15, 2020 5:58 am

Scenes look very similar lately, and the small number of performers available doesn't help.
But the only new thing we got was this cage...
Could we have more diversity with girls clothes, girl/girl action, whipped cream, food play and insertions, manhandling, themes, 3+ girls scenes... ?

We had scenes like these in the past.
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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby magizi87 » Thu Oct 15, 2020 7:59 pm

I miss scenes that did the same position more than once.

For example, doggy, cowgirl, blowbang, reverse cowgirl and then cowgirl a second time,
followed by a second blowbang, etc.

If I were a director I would put MANY blowbangs, lol.
Especially with girls with faces as pretty as Kristy Black.

But the origin of my complaint is that I DON'T like any of these positions:

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(as in I very much dislike ALL of these)

Mostly because IMO it looks OVERLY GAY, and the sex is never great.

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Postby Starrio » Thu Oct 15, 2020 10:12 pm

Yeah, I don't like cowgirl either. My favorites are prone bone, and standing positions which there are a lot of different ones, and doggy is fine too, I just don't like cowgirl or reverse cowgirl.

I understand it has to be done sometimes for DP purposes, but that's the only time it is acceptable. Otherwise it just looks lazy and I rather see the girl getting pounded by the guy deep inside and making it sound.

Subconsciously my hypothesis why many people don't like cowgirl positions is because if it was a rape scenario, that's probably one of the most unlikely positions to see.

Although to be fair guys that are still going through puberty may like cowgirl positions because they just want to see the girl, and that's good enough for them.

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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby magizi87 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 1:57 am

I would like to see themes be thing again.

I'm gonna use an example with cosplay.
There is a cosplay active discussion recently.
So I think its relevant

Back in the day, Gonzo tried a cosplay scene with Kira Thorn as Harley Queen
and Chris Diamond as The Joker.

And IMO they went to great length to produce it.
The makeup and the costumes looked better than expected IMO.
They got props, the whole thing

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I don't know the true story behind the scenes,
but to me, it appeared like that movie tanked in sales.

And that's why we didn't got more of that.
They probably thought along the lines,
"all this extra effort and for nothing, no one was interested, all wasted."

I can buy that movie with free tkt and still haven't buy it.

Number one reason, the cuckold theme is an automatic skip.
For me, that killed the movie.

Number two was the trailer.
It puts too much screen time on Chris.

No offense, Chris is like S tier male actor, but porn is about the ladies.

And I don't know who told porn producers that
when doing cosplay it must be a joke. No pun intended to the joker.

Someone at porn, one day needs to do a cosplay scene,
Nolan style. He grabbed the Batman franchise, and took it seriously.

"How could batman exist, if it could be real.

Before him Batman movies were about selling toys,
it was a huge commercial for toys, lol. (Batman and Robin)

I don't know the statistic of cuckold scenes, but I can't imagine it being a dominant theme.
(That being said, I can't begin to comprehend how piss is as popular as it is)

So take my opinion as just that.

But IMO the thing that undid that scene, was the cuckold theme.

THAT BEING SAID.

I think low budget "cosplay scenes"
could be more down to earth characters.

Like Secretaries, School girls, Police Officers, etc.

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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby magizi87 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:05 am

Also,

In the movie, "Suicide Squad"

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The joker, offers his squeeze, Harley Queen, to one of his goons.
That movie was a PG-13 movie, so of course that would never happen,

but you guys do away with those ratings and go straight to adults only,
the realm where such things could happen.

That would have made the whole thing more believable for a gangbang scene IMO.

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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby magizi87 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:32 am

Another thing I would like to see
that would make movies become more erotic
would be to connect contextually
scenes that feature the same model.

What I mean, is to somehow connect new scenes
in such a way that they seem to be a continuation of an older scene.
But that minimize or don't require much dialogue or acting.

For example.

I while back I read an erotic story
on https://literotica.com/
(I forgot the author or the story title, my bad)

Me being me, it was for sure on the realm of gangbang + non-con

It was about a secretary, a beautiful one, heh,

who got blackmailed, I think she got caught selling information
about her employer, or otherwise betraying her company for profit,
and she was forced to become the company's pet.

She would go to work, wearing skimpy clothes,
forced to crawl instead of a walk from one office to the next
and be at the mercy of her horny coworker's whims.

So one scene, say on Monday, she does a lesbian scene,
Tuesday she services the guys who go to the lunch area,
on Friday her boss tells her to work a "deal" with a group of new customers.

People who buy the series would get a higher Kick,
because the "story" makes it more erotic.

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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby magizi87 » Fri Oct 16, 2020 2:41 am

stratogustav wrote:Yeah, I don't like cowgirl either.


What?

When did I say I don't like cowgirl?

HOW, lol

This is one of my favorite gifs that I have ever done.

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It's a cowgirl gif, just saying

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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby Starrio » Fri Oct 16, 2020 7:38 am

magizi87 wrote:
stratogustav wrote:Yeah, I don't like cowgirl either.


What?

When did I say I don't like cowgirl?

HOW, lol

This is one of my favorite gifs that I have ever done.

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It's a cowgirl gif, just saying


Like I said in my post, for DP is fine because you are doing doggy at the same time, otherwise is meh for the reasons already explained.

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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby dap-addict » Fri Oct 16, 2020 8:55 am

pastaga wrote:Could we have more diversity with girls clothes

+ 1

Probably the easiest way to infuse some more diversity.

Also cosplay would be welcome.
2-3 scenes for each studio per month I mean.

Finally positions:
Agree with magizi about going back to core positions repeated at the end.
Also agree with the missionary DAP with the girl on sofa and studs fighting to get into her ass. Position simply doenst work, almost never works, and all we have is a cocks fight over her.
But most important is that most studios do 80-90% always same set of positions, same position sequence. Why not put in a bit more variety here? Its so easy to make it look a bit different!
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Postby grey00owl » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:13 am

stratogustav wrote:Yeah, I don't like cowgirl either. My favorites are prone bone, and standing positions which there are a lot of different ones, and doggy is fine too, I just don't like cowgirl or reverse cowgirl.

I understand it has to be done sometimes for DP purposes, but that's the only time it is acceptable. Otherwise it just looks lazy and I rather see the girl getting pounded by the guy deep inside and making it sound.

Subconsciously my hypothesis why many people don't like cowgirl positions is because if it was a rape scenario, that's probably one of the most unlikely positions to see.

Although to be fair guys that are still going through puberty may like cowgirl positions because they just want to see the girl, and that's good enough for them.

I really don't understand this aversion of yours to cowgirl position. If I'm not wrong, you are a big fan of Emily Pink: look at her first scenes with Chris Diamond. Amazing to see that giant cock stuck up in her lovely ass all the way in cowgirl, shot from the back.
I like either when the guy thrusts his pole, or when the girl rides it: what makes the difference, whether it's hot or lame, is always the depth and the pace, as in every other position.

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Postby grey00owl » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:24 am

magizi87 wrote:Another thing I would like to see
that would make movies become more erotic
would be to connect contextually
scenes that feature the same model.

What I mean, is to somehow connect new scenes
in such a way that they seem to be a continuation of an older scene.
But that minimize or don't require much dialogue or acting.

For example.

I while back I read an erotic story
on https://literotica.com/
(I forgot the author or the story title, my bad)

Me being me, it was for sure on the realm of gangbang + non-con

It was about a secretary, a beautiful one, heh,

who got blackmailed, I think she got caught selling information
about her employer, or otherwise betraying her company for profit,
and she was forced to become the company's pet.

She would go to work, wearing skimpy clothes,
forced to crawl instead of a walk from one office to the next
and be at the mercy of her horny coworker's whims.

So one scene, say on Monday, she does a lesbian scene,
Tuesday she services the guys who go to the lunch area,
on Friday her boss tells her to work a "deal" with a group of new customers.

People who buy the series would get a higher Kick,
because the "story" makes it more erotic.

Agree, a nice idea.
Also agree about some cosplay and different outfits.
That cuckold scene with Kira Thorn is a nice example in my opinion.

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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby DPraved » Fri Oct 16, 2020 10:34 pm

stratogustav wrote:....
Subconsciously my hypothesis why many people don't like cowgirl positions is because if it was a rape scenario, that's probably one of the most unlikely positions to see.

Although to be fair guys that are still going through puberty may like cowgirl positions because they just want to see the girl, and that's good enough for them.

:eek: I find the idea that men would prefer to watch positions that are more likely to be used in rape really fucking offensive! Then you go on and suggest that only pubescent boys would think otherwise! I sincerely hope this is just your views and not some messed up cultural thing where rape is considered manly! :mad:
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Re: Can we have a little more variety ?

Postby DPraved » Fri Oct 16, 2020 11:01 pm

In my mind there are two golden rules for porn: Make the girl look good and fuck her good. I find that too much of the scenes shot today break these rules with awkward positions that don't show of the model in a good way and doesn't allow for good fucking. The examples by magizi87 all break the rules in at least one way. It seems to me that many directors focus too much on trying to be creative with novel positions rather than focusing on the basics.
Perhaps directors believe that just because there is a lot of freely available porn out there, they need to shoot content that hasn't been seen before? My advice would be to focus on image quality instead of novelty and always keep in mind the golden rules!
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Postby Starrio » Sat Oct 17, 2020 3:25 pm

Heads up, I think Chris Diamond is a great performer, and his size is excellent for porn. However for some weird reason I don't like seeing him in videos, I have no idea why, it is just one of those situations where it just happens.

I do have some videos with him that I got by mistake, but I tend to avoid getting videos where he is performing, so that's probably why I haven't seen those videos you are referring to.

I hope that answers your question.

About the rape thing, it's a fantasy thing, you don't need to be PC about it, no one wants to rape anyone, just like no one wants to kill anyone, yet in fantasy we like to see action movies and we often cheer for people to get killed in movies, like the bad guys.

It doesn't mean in real life we want anyone to get killed or raped, if that's the case your brain is likely broken and you need to get checked ASAP.

If you can't understand a simple concept like that, like the difference between wanting something in fantasy versus wanting it in reality, then you may also need some serious help as well. I'm not saying you do, I hope that's not the case, and that it is just a misunderstanding from your side.

I hope that answers that question.

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Postby Starrio » Sat Oct 17, 2020 10:04 pm

By the way, sorry I forgot to tag the names, but those answers were for different people, so it may be a little confusing for whom was which.

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Postby rroper472 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:22 am

Don't use the word rape

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Postby Starrio » Sun Oct 18, 2020 3:11 am

rroper472 wrote:Don't use the word rape


I hear you man. We are at that point in social conditioning that we can't even use certain words anymore to communicate because someone would get offended, like you can't say retard for example, it is getting absurd, but that's the world we live in.

It reminds of 90's Evangelical movement where they would call everything Satanic, and judge normal people for that, saying they are with the devil. Hopefully we can evolve as a society and move away from this level of stupidity.

It is ruining lots of lives. I have seem women, and men, adopting all these idiotic narratives and starting to become depressed, feeling like victims, and powerless. It is very sad what these PC movements are doing to the world.

Hopefully it will change. Those kind of things can't last.

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Postby grey00owl » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:01 am

stratogustav wrote:
rroper472 wrote:Don't use the word rape


I hear you man. We are at that point in social conditioning that we can't even use certain words anymore to communicate because someone would get offended, like you can't say retard for example, it is getting absurd, but that's the world we live in.

It reminds of 90's Evangelical movement where they would call everything Satanic, and judge normal people for that, saying they are with the devil. Hopefully we can evolve as a society and move away from this level of stupidity.

It is ruining lots of lives. I have seem women, and men, adopting all these idiotic narratives and starting to become depressed, feeling like victims, and powerless. It is very sad what these PC movements are doing to the world.

Hopefully it will change. Those kind of things can't last.

Agree with this: always a tough opponent of political correctness, according to which you can't name the things with their names.
Nobody here wants to rape a woman, but certainly does in his fantasy. This doesn't mean that these men who fantasize about are possible raper.

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Postby DPraved » Sun Oct 18, 2020 1:02 pm

stratogustav wrote:Heads up, I think Chris Diamond is a great performer, and his size is excellent for porn. However for some weird reason I don't like seeing him in videos, I have no idea why, it is just one of those situations where it just happens.

I do have some videos with him that I got by mistake, but I tend to avoid getting videos where he is performing, so that's probably why I haven't seen those videos you are referring to.

I hope that answers your question.

About the rape thing, it's a fantasy thing, you don't need to be PC about it, no one wants to rape anyone, just like no one wants to kill anyone, yet in fantasy we like to see action movies and we often cheer for people to get killed in movies, like the bad guys.

It doesn't mean in real life we want anyone to get killed or raped, if that's the case your brain is likely broken and you need to get checked ASAP.

If you can't understand a simple concept like that, like the difference between wanting something in fantasy versus wanting it in reality, then you may also need some serious help as well. I'm not saying you do, I hope that's not the case, and that it is just a misunderstanding from your side.

I hope that answers that question.

Everyone is free to fantasize about whatever of course, but the way I interpreted your two sentences was that the rape fantasy was something common to most men with the exception of pubescent boys. It is this generalization I take offense to the most, since when you generalize, it includes me! I have female friends who are afraid to walk home alone after a night out, fearing to get attacked an raped, and when I read something that suggests a cultural tolerance towards this crime, I get genuinely mad. This is not political correctness, it's a real fucking problem.
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Postby grey00owl » Sun Oct 18, 2020 2:42 pm

DPraved wrote: I have female friends who are afraid to walk home alone after a night out, fearing to get attacked an raped, and when I read something that suggests a cultural tolerance towards this crime, I get genuinely mad. This is not political correctness, it's a real fucking problem.

I have much respect for your opinion and concern, but I think it's not justified. As already stated, nobody here is claiming for rape or for tolerating it. It's a vile crime that deserves to be condemned and prosecuted. But fantasy and reality are two well distinct things: so a rape scenario could actually appeal in a porn production. It comes to my mind the series BoundGangbang by KINK where the actress is bound and taken against her will. Well, some of those scene are great porn.
By the way, it seems that not few women fantasize about it as well.

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Postby magizi87 » Sun Oct 18, 2020 8:32 pm

I haven't checkout kink in a while.

I kinda wished they cared more about the aesthetics.

Their movies are not presented in an elegant way.
They're too raw IMO, not enough understanding of what's sexy, their movies lack sex appeal.

Also, I often think their models are not pretty enough for pornos. :o

A huge factor for my disinterest.^

However, when I read erotic literature or comics, in the "non-con" sub-area (Non-Consent),
as in forced sex fantasy role-play, as is known in such places,
the best ones, IMO, are the ones where the woman dialogue and facial expressions
are telling your brain, she is against the sex and the situation is undesired,
buuuuuuuuut, her body language tells the complete opposite. (she is horny as fuck)
in conjunction with the context, the events that lead to the sex.

The context, is extremely important to prime the brain, it's what makes it erotic.

I trust better my interpretation of the body language rather than verbal communication, in everything.

So, one of the huge "no-no" for rape scenes would be to see the woman
brace for impact, crunch her body into a shell position.

Defensive body language. Equals BAD porno. lol

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Postby Starrio » Sun Oct 18, 2020 11:36 pm

DPraved wrote:I have female friends who are afraid to walk home alone after a night out, fearing to get attacked an raped, and when I read something that suggests a cultural tolerance towards this crime, I get genuinely mad. This is not political correctness, it's a real fucking problem.


A very friendly advice is that if you want to do that, it is totally fine and good, specially with women you don't care about sexually, but beware it doesn't get you points.

Women would almost never fuck white knights unless it is for status reasons. I see a lot of guys making those mistakes. I live in California, so I'm aware.

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Postby dap-addict » Thu Oct 22, 2020 7:30 am

grey00owl wrote:
DPraved wrote: I have female friends who are afraid to walk home alone after a night out, fearing to get attacked an raped, and when I read something that suggests a cultural tolerance towards this crime, I get genuinely mad. This is not political correctness, it's a real fucking problem.

I have much respect for your opinion and concern, but I think it's not justified. As already stated, nobody here is claiming for rape or for tolerating it. It's a vile crime that deserves to be condemned and prosecuted. But fantasy and reality are two well distinct things.

Agree with both of you!
This said nobody here suggested a cultural tolerance the most hideous crime against women.
You might rather have over-reacted, DPraved. But I do agree with your compassion for your female friends! I have the same and I always feel bad listening to them. Its not nice feeling at all. Has nothing to do with porn and erotic writing fantasies at all, though. Good would also be to talk with them about their own hidden fantasies, if they are open enough. Fantasies, not real wishes for reality, I stress! Porn could give a safe ground to play with those fantasies, also because on porn sets the NO! and STOP!-word works 100%, at least with all LP studios.
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