Tired of double and triple anal

[dap-addict]

So if only Sineplex counts, then let's talk about Sineplex

Sineplex produced Double Anal starting with:

[list][*]Melissa Black in Hardcore Climax 10, released 12/2004 ---> https://www. adultdvdmarketplace. com/dvd_view_82438. html

(...)

Piss My Ass Off 1 wasn't released until January 23, 2010

The same day as Double Anal Teen Creampies 1 ---> http://forum. adultdvdtalk. com/new-sineplex-movies-and-trailers/reply/1708359

Now that was a time when Rosenberg and Monti fucked Claudia Rossi and Melissa Black!
Actually just 1 year after Giorgio Grandi did that first Natasha Kiss DAP back in Italy.

It was the end of those Prague Golden Years and Sineplex started with local Czech (and Slovak) talent - a time we tend to forget about - before they flew over tapping the large Russian talent pool from 2006/7 onwards. The move was amongst other factors due to the Prague and Budapest rates running out of control, fuelled by than market leading US companies.

Its porn history only, but talking seriousely here, we'd better know it.


Some DAP history is here:

I think I shot my first DAP over 13 years ago ("Grandi Inculate" produced by Natasha Kiss), and then I continued to do it like actor with Roby Banchi in several movies.
When I was in Russia I continued to shoot DAP/fisting in regular base since the beginning (Since 2007). I shot DAPs in my movies even with Shemale for fuck sake.

The studio No Rest For The Ass, release the content I shot during 5 years in Russia (for the most). My catalog has been purchased by xxx about one year ago, and the contents are available at legalporno with "Free Ticket"

Then,
I shot the first scene for what not is called "Studio GG" in 2008-2009 (I do not remember exactly), produced directly by xxx, technically I am the first one hired from xxx for create adult content.
Practically I did not even know who he was when he contacted me, I did not try to understand for who someone else was shooting and I did not propose myself like producer/director, xxx chose me himself, period
In 2011 our working paths have divided (technically he fired me). Whatever, I needed it.

Few links from many years ago.
http://www. porno italiano. com/video-porno/ grandi-inculate-2-con-natasha-kiss html
http://www. porno italiano. com/video-porno /melissa-black-in-puttane-italiane html
http://www. porno italiano. com/anale/ renata-black-sesso-interrazziale-e-doppia-penetrazione-con-giorgio-grandi html
http://www. porno italiano. com/anale/ biondina-sfiziosa-in-gang-bang-anale html

Pissing?
Like actor I shot several pissing scene that are the foundations of my pissing scenes here in LP (Basically the same stuff). Produced and directed by Dario Lussuria (alias Luigi Atomico) in 2005-2006 (more or less)

Triple Anal:
I use to shoot DAP, DV+DAP, V+DAP since 2006 like actor and then like director in regular base a lot before DAP was a standard for anyone else (I think I shot like 4-5 DP in 5 years in Russia for NTFTA, the rest were DAP)

I do not really see why to be so upset for the "free content" xxx offer you at his expensies, unless it is not personal against me. Anyway both cases I do not give a shit, but at least we can have fun here in office to read another bullshit

I think I shot my first DAP over 13 years ago ("Grandi Inculate" produced by Natasha Kiss), and then I continued to do it like actor with Roby Banchi in several movies.
When I was in Russia I continued to shoot DAP/fisting in regular base since the beginning (Since 2007).

Thanks for this post, Giorgio!
For me lobbying for more DAP in different porn forums since at least 15 years your Russian norest period after 2007 was a true breakthrough. There was DAP produced before of course but nobody proofed it can be done not as a rare exception porn sex act but on a regular basis.

From the time you had to exile to Prague late 2011 onwards I was hopeing you can bring your DAP drive into newly founded LP and establish the same norest DAP scene frequency also under Czech porn production realities. First it looked like a steep uphill battle, but thanks to xxx Prague changed and found a way back to the Golden Years of 2000-5 when US directors flew in to shoot DAP with legendary girls like Vivienne LaRoche, Julie Silver, Melissa Black o.a.
However, you currently even surpassed that era with your production alone and your motivation for gonzo.com!
Ald lately you and xxx even have driven SOS to regain that long lost DAP momentum!

LP is 3 different studios, 3 different stories and 3 different aspects of porn history, but a joint venture striving for the best hardcore anal porn that industry has seen so far! For me its near paradise finally attained in an allmost 20 years battle, a point reached I can finally choose from DAP scene offers instead of haveing to be glad I get a DAP at all.

Its the point finally we all can really discuss about how to shoot a good DAP scene, which ingredients are needed, how to avoid dipping and tip fucking and go to balls deep dapping, which camera angels are best for DAP, how to present the dapped girls as to cater for different fetishes, shoot slow romantic DAP as well as power DAP with manhandling, include squirting and fisting etc. All fetishes porn offered so far but been bound back to vanilla sex acts too often.

Finally its you, Giorgio, to popularize more DAP positions than just cowgirl, doggy, standing and reverse cowgirl.
You also showed DAP-shy girls like Belle Claire a.o. that the act can be done easily and performed with true joy.
And its also you to be the first porn director to stage simultanous DAPs of 2 or more girls!
You wrote porn history - and I am glad you wrote it as an LP team member!

Last but not least those norest scenes for free on LP are a great surplus value!


LP for me, the DAPlist responsible of ebi (still), is at its very peak now and hopefully going higher yet presenting me with a daily choice of which DAP scene to buy first and which one second or even third. And its mainly due to you, Giorgio!



Disclaimer: DAP still remains a demanding porn sex act of course and thus is higher payed than just DP or anal. All porn acts are payed and payment is a motivation for almost all girls, thus please dont use this fact for anti-porn propaganda!

[magizi877]

You know guys, opinions are subjective.

It doesn't matter if sineplex has always been doing DAP scenes from the start, or if Giorgio had too. This thread is to let them know that not everybody is a Dap-addict or Gapefan. Some of us, however big or small of a demographic we might be, dislike DAP or TAP, and would prefer movies that feature sex with smooth, balls deep and enthusiastic penetration.

[Giorgio Grandi]

Personally the few DP scenes I shot for LP have been a waste of time and money. DAP for me sells better, I think users that do not buy scenes because of DAP is a really small minority, unfortunately negligible.

[rikkids1234]

Personally the few DP scenes I shot for LP have been a waste of time and money. DAP for me sells better, I think users that do not buy scenes because of DAP is a really small minority, unfortunately negligible.

keep doing dap and tap its great my only wish giorgio is crystal greenvelle 5 bbc dap with strappy open toe shoes on hottttt

[rollin_dubs187]

Personally the few DP scenes I shot for LP have been a waste of time and money. DAP for me sells better, I think users that do not buy scenes because of DAP is a really small minority, unfortunately negligible.

The dp scenes you shoot are a waste of time and money? I find that hard to believe. Many of LP best selling movies contain NO DAP. Your rational is ridiculous. You put DAP in every scene. Of course it is now your best seller when it is the only option now. Its either download videos with DAP or none at all. A poll on here showed over half the people visiting this site want LESS than half of the scenes containing DAP. However you put it i 95% of your content. You are completely alienating over half your those fans. The only reason they continue to download these scenes because they dont have a choice. At some point people will leave because they

A. Are sick of the same old boring dap scenes, showing minimal penitration, the same horrble camera angle, and the same 3 weak ass positions.

B. Prices get so high from having to pay girls to do DAP. I personally am getting tired of having to pay over bloated prices to accomadate the DAP crowd when it is a genre I find boring, and usually skip through on every scene. And Im not the only one.

C. Another studio rises, with the same girls for less money concetrating on camera and and gapes thus costing less, just like porn should be.

Im sorry GG but your movies have seriously lost creativity and excitement. At first it was something new and taboo, but you habe successfully drivin it into the ground. You pump out the same boring shit time and time again. You value quantity over quality. The only thing that keeps me around is the girls. God bless those pretty little angels.

[gapefan]

^So essentially what you are saying is that you think you know more about producing and distributing hardcore porn than Giorgio Grandi!

This keeps getting better and better!

[scott271]

Personally the few DP scenes I shot for LP have been a waste of time and money. DAP for me sells better, I think users that do not buy scenes because of DAP is a really small minority, unfortunately negligible.

so at the moment DAP/TAP is king. I am sure in a few years when Giorgio Grandi finds something else which sells better than DAP/TAP. He will start to produce the scenes which makes the most money for himself and stop making DAP/TAP. Then all the DAP/TAP will start to complain. The truth of the matter is, the producers are really interested in what makes the most money, not what the fans want. More variety with different themes would be better for fans IMO.

[Ass2Die4464]

Personally the few DP scenes I shot for LP have been a waste of time and money. DAP for me sells better, I think users that do not buy scenes because of DAP is a really small minority, unfortunately negligible.

Well thanks for the candor Giorgio, I do like the intensity and camera in your scenes but I'm not a fan of the 100% anal, dap and tap craze. These type of scenes in my opinion are pointless. Also for clarification I'm not a pissing fan either as I'm even stronger against the piss than the 100% anal, dap, tap. Are there exceptions that I make for a girl, the answer is emphatically yes but I most often than not skip the 100% anal, dap and tap stuff. It is pointless to keep debating about this all the time. Giorgio has told us with clarity what matters to him and it is the sales there nothing wrong with that as nobody works for free. So next time you reach to the mouse to click on scene that you don't like to support a model you do remember it still goes down in the column for 100% anal, dap and tap not support for the model. So stop voting with your post and do it with your money. As I have read many times on this forum and fully believe them. There are many reasons a scene sells and how do you know what is the real reason. Mandatory meaningless polls required.

[Giorgio Grandi]

I am a bit lost. Most of last scene contains DAP but also a good amount of DP. There are model that do not want to shoot DP (Like C. Greenvelle for example).
I probably express myself not properly, I clean it up. I think DP scenes are not worth as DP+DAP scene.

Technically to shoot DP and DAP makes the video more easy to sell to both the fans, I do not really see the point to accuse to me obsessed with DAP. If a model is able to perform in DAP, I wont be the one to do not allow it.

BTW, I will ask to my editor to prepare a @NO DAP@ version for anyone is against DAP.

[bluey_nl]

I am a bit lost. Most of last scene contains DAP but also a good amount of DP. There are model that do not want to shoot DP (Like C. Greenvelle for example).
I probably express myself not properly, I clean it up. I think DP scenes are not worth as DP+DAP scene.

Technically to shoot DP and DAP makes the video more easy to sell to both the fans, I do not really see the point to accuse to me obsessed with DAP. If a model is able to perform in DAP, I wont be the one to do not allow it.

BTW, I will ask to my editor to prepare a @NO DAP@ version for anyone is against DAP.

Keep up the good work Giorgio. One of the main reasons I like your scenes is because there is lots of DAP sex in it. Sometimes two girls get DAP'ed at the same time.
So keep shooting DAP. The more DAP in your scenes, the better. If a girl wants to do DAP, let her do it.

[staygold]

Hmm, let me guess.

Some viewers are just a bit fed up with those kinds of anal sex, and that's it. There is not need to make fuss, remove or change anything and surely we shouldn't blame each other, especially content providers.

I think that some diversity is needed as a matter of fact, as there are currently no alternatives to various kinds of anal sex and practically every scene from every studio is the same in terms of penetration. Previously we used to have varied 'activities' here and customers just got used to it, and now it is all the same. They say "when you remove something make sure that you replace it with something else". It's on page 4 in "XXX Industry Management for Dummies".

As a result, for some customers the current situation looks like those action movies where 95% of action is shooting and killing. On the other hand, this is Legalporno, not Universal Pictures, what did you guys expect?

I think the problem lies deeper. Nowadays we are easily accustomed to things and have an urge for constant development and improvement, we cannot deny that. Look at the variety some American websites introduce: Brazzers used to shoot lame and boring stuff, and apparently started losing customers. Now they shoot the same lame stuff with costumes, script and roleplay. It is still boring, but in general they did improve things. There are also many other examples.

Personally, I agree that currently LP offers the best content, however I also agree that improvement and variety are needed in some aspects. As they always are.

Cheers,
Gold

[magizi877]

Here is my logic when it comes to buying porn "Á la carte" :

Do I like the girl? This is where I weigh most of my money. If I were to put a number to my decision process, I would say it's about 90% of importance.

The other 10% has to accommodate everything else. The sexual acts, the makeup, the duration of the scene, etc

This is how I explain to myself why I purchased pissing scenes, which to me the whole idea is repulsive, but I'm not judging, just making a point. Or why i purchase scenes from other sites that have no anal. For instance i don't like girls with a bush and I prefer anal sex scenes, but Dani Daniels, she is so gorgeous that I simply not care she sports a bush and never does anal. But yet again, it doesn't matter because she is so beautiful.

So why this matters in the context of legalporno. Well I don't think I'm that different from others, I think at this sexual level, we operate in similar ways. I don't think it's crazy to say that the scenes we buy are strongly related to the girls we like, each as an individual. But here is the catch, because legalporno operates the way it does, when a girl you like appears, you kinda have to buy her scene, no matter what it was, because otherwise you risk it, scene doesn't sell enough and she never gets called back..

So when i purchase a DAP, or pissing, insert any niche here, chances are, I was after the girl and not those acts.

Just saying because after reading Giorgio comment I thought, doesn't sound like he is giving credit to the women in the business.

[dap-addict]

Personally the few DP scenes I shot for LP have been a waste of time and money. DAP for me sells better, I think users that do not buy scenes because of DAP is a really small minority, unfortunately negligible.

You may call it unfortunately, Giorgio, but sales figures dont lie!
But really kind is your offer to edit two versions, DP only and DAP included. Thats worth a try I think, just to measure the market potential.

For magizi: Its sure about the girls for most of us, but visiting LP the customer wants a certain kind of sex acts performed by her - and if he wants less anal he goes shopping for her scenes somewhere else. Giorgio as anybody working with them thinks first of the girl of course, but knowing his overall clients profile, he tries to shoot DAP with them.
Nothing wrong, just catering for his fans basically.

Finally I'd really suggest to all DAP fans to keep asking Giorgio for DAP of your favorite girls! Amongst all directors he has the most impressive success rate in convincing girls to try - and usually he succeeds in makeing them perform DAP fine!

For me personally most demanded at this point is a late career Gina Gerson DAP, but I know her thereshold is really high.

[Giorgio Grandi]

magizi87, you got the point, but you did not even understand it.

Its very easy to take a unknown very pretty 18 y.o. girl, shoot a scene with 5 BBC with experience and get good sales, or to shoot another top seller with Arwen or Belle. Really anyone with a bit of experience can do this on LP.

The real point is to shoot a good selling content with average looking girls, this makes the difference IMHO, because there are more average looking girls then Arwen or Belle on the market.
With average looking girls, the content became more important then the girl, so the contribution of the director/location/action/niches create a content that sells better then another content with the same average girl.

This is the direction where I am going, I am experimenting...
Just you take a look at the best seller of july (http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos/2016/07), the real goal are not the the 6 scenes out of 10 in the top of the page, but the 2 scenes with Allen Benz, Rebecca and Brittany with Mike and Latoya over the middle of the page (on the top of many more pretty girls). With Lexy Star, for example I failed (by first BBC scene, I am not surprised)

For me to think that 90% of the selling power of on scene is just attributable to the girl really depreciate the value of the content but also of all the LP system. LP has more potential than just depend by beauty of the girls

[dap-addict]

That July selling list is still too much dependant on the date of publication, Giorgio.
Latoyas position clearly shows that.
Better refer to an earlier month.

Generally I'm convinced most LP clients are less than 90% girl based in their shopping decisions, but I'd need to do a poll.

Finally, there is a lot of posts about these often neglected side aspects like lingerie, footwear, MU, camerawork, lighting, scene composition etc. here, but too often I feel only you read them and really take care about all the tricks to turn a so called average looking girl into a real porn hoover thus creating a fine selling piece of work and passion of all involved.

[Giorgio Grandi]

That July selling list is still too much dependant on the date of publication, Giorgio.
Latoyas position clearly shows that.

dap-addict, I think I know thinks better the you. The date of publication is not so important for the ranking in any "top seller list".

[dap-addict]

Thanks for clarification, Giorgio!
Still intersting why the beautiful exoric Latoya sold that little for me than?
It shows that looks are not all, yes of course, but isnt there something more to it still.

[Ferocious]

The real point is to shoot a good selling content with average looking girls

Probably this makes any sense for a director or website manager. But for me as a customer or for other potential customers, this is a pure confession of failure
No customer want to see average looking girls with mid-sized dudes, just because they are easier to find and they are a challenge for the camera man. IMHO the main reason, why LP got so big, is the combination of
- big dicks,
- hard fucking,
- courage for niche stuff
- and beautiful new girls.
And all of this 4 aspects are equal important. It's not just about the girls, not just about big dicks, not just about niches etc. But if this 4 aspects come together, you produce one big seller scene after another.
Unfortunately the site lost one or even more of those aspects in most of the new scenes. And that's the problem for me.

[Iddaoeeok]

Here is my logic when it comes to buying porn "Á la carte" :

Do I like the girl? This is where I weigh most of my money. If I were to put a number to my decision process, I would say it's about 90% of importance.

The other 10% has to accommodate everything else. The sexual acts, the makeup, the duration of the scene, etc

This is how I explain to myself why I purchased pissing scenes, which to me the whole idea is repulsive, but I'm not judging, just making a point. Or why i purchase scenes from other sites that have no anal. For instance i don't like girls with a bush and I prefer anal sex scenes, but Dani Daniels, she is so gorgeous that I simply not care she sports a bush and never does anal. But yet again, it doesn't matter because she is so beautiful.

So why this matters in the context of legalporno. Well I don't think I'm that different from others, I think at this sexual level, we operate in similar ways. I don't think it's crazy to say that the scenes we buy are strongly related to the girls we like, each as an individual. But here is the catch, because legalporno operates the way it does, when a girl you like appears, you kinda have to buy her scene, no matter what it was, because otherwise you risk it, scene doesn't sell enough and she never gets called back..

So when i purchase a DAP, or pissing, insert any niche here, chances are, I was after the girl and not those acts.

Just saying because after reading Giorgio comment I thought, doesn't sound like he is giving credit to the women in the business.

Agree 100%. Put it better than I could.

[staygold]

Do I like the girl? This is where I weigh most of my money. If I were to put a number to my decision process, I would say it's about 90% of importance.

The other 10% has to accommodate everything else. The sexual acts, the makeup, the duration of the scene, etc

Completely disagree. If you want numbers it's IMO:

60% is director's job: plot, lighting and camera angles, careful guidance during performance and of course small details like interaction
30% enthusiasm and beauty of the girl
10% male talents

Of course we should note that:

1) If a girl herself is a beauty she surely gets over 30%, which results in over 100%, another top seller or epic scene

2) If a director makes even more effort, he instantly turns an average girl into a new star and attracts even more customers (see Rebecca in recent GIO)

3) If a director fails completely (see Gonzo.com for many examples) not only a scene is ruined but a customer starts blaming the girl/male talents

4) Finally, male talent quality is also important, especially for some people. But still for me this aspect is more like "director's job".

[Boshanks]

I understand what Giorgio is saying here, some of his scenes have included a girl who wasn't necessarily my type but I've purchased because of how good the content looks in the trailer, and I'm generally someone who buys on attraction to the model first and foremost. I guess he sees this as a challenge and he wants to experiment, it doesn't bother me as long as the updates remain interspersed with women that the majority of us will agree are absolutely stunning.

Its very easy to take a unknown very pretty 18 y.o. girl, shoot a scene with 5 BBC with experience and get good sales, or to shoot another top seller with Arwen or Belle. Really anyone with a bit of experience can do this on LP.

I know you want to try new things, but I'd personally love it if you started a teen series with new 18 year old models. Although LP has had many teen newcomers over the years, it's never had a teen focused series. I think the sales would be fantastic whether they were very pretty or "average", which is subjective of course.

On the subject of this topic, I'm not the biggest fan of DAP, and I fucking loathe TAP which I feel is pointless and a complete turn off, but like magizi I've bought and contributed to the sales of certain niches because of the model involved. I enjoy DAP when the woman is clearly capable of performing it with some intensity, I don't enjoy it when it's included just for the sake of it, of which TAP always is.

[leroiosoleil83]

Wow, this conversation has blown way out of proportion, haha... reminds me of something I read once -

Everything we hear is opinion, not a fact. Everything we see is perspective, not the truth. - Marcus Aurelius

Something to keep in mind, guys. It's cool that so many feel so passionately about this, but really in the end very few of us are above our own personal instincts - especially when it comes to porn.

[rollin_dubs187]

^So essentially what you are saying is that you think you know more about producing and distributing hardcore porn than Giorgio Grandi!

This keeps getting better and better!

blah blah blah blah. Go fuck yourself. Just because if GG was at in front of you right now you would get on your knees and suck his cock, doen't mean that we all would. If I had GG's resources, I would have NO problems doinhg what he does. It's not like he is doing brain surgery, you hire guys to fuck girls in the ass on camera, not much to it. Problem is you think you know what everyone likes, well guess what artard, not everyone likes the same shit as you

[casalweluv]

Giorgio, you just have to tone it down a little and add more hard dp. There is a lot of DAP only scenes with girls that are not prepared to dap, so we see a lot of WEAK FUCKING.
IMO we can see dap in all scenes, but not ONLY this, because it makes the scenes boring seeing the girls not having fun and the guys only trying to do it. You can give us all in the same scene, some DP, DPP, DAP, etc, we wanna see them get fucked in every way, not only tip dap trying. You made with DAP what u made with Piss in that time, you just have to tone it down a little and give us more variety.

[rollin_dubs187]

I understand what Giorgio is saying here, some of his scenes have included a girl who wasn't necessarily my type but I've purchased because of how good the content looks in the trailer, and I'm generally someone who buys on attraction to the model first and foremost. I guess he sees this as a challenge and he wants to experiment, it doesn't bother me as long as the updates remain interspersed with women that the majority of us will agree are absolutely stunning.

Experimenting means trying something new, something fresh. DAP is no way either

[dap-addict]

You misunderstood Giorgio!
He was clearly pointing to his 1on1 BBC intros with Mike (non-DAP) and his exotic looking girls getting dapped (Latoya).
Experimenting has nothing to do with the porn sex act as such, be it anal only, DAP or TAP, but the niche way its presented.
Basically its all about penetration and fucking, the rest are just ingredients that sell the depicted sex acts better or worse. A matter of fact, however, is that DAP out of all sex acts produced by LP sells best.

[rollin_dubs187]

I am a bit lost. Most of last scene contains DAP but also a good amount of DP. There are model that do not want to shoot DP (Like C. Greenvelle for example).
I probably express myself not properly, I clean it up. I think DP scenes are not worth as DP+DAP scene.

Technically to shoot DP and DAP makes the video more easy to sell to both the fans, I do not really see the point to accuse to me obsessed with DAP. If a model is able to perform in DAP, I wont be the one to do not allow it.

BTW, I will ask to my editor to prepare a @NO DAP@ version for anyone is against DAP.

My point is the dap is boring and does not need to be in every scene. Most of the best sellers on this site contain none of it, so claiming it sells so much better is not true. It may be selling better now but that is only because every scene has it. I understand it is not all the time in each scene, but a good 20 minutes a scene is wasted on DAP.

For me it's like this. You say you gotta pay girls more money and that is why scenes cost more. You have to pay girls more money because of things like DAP. However I vastly dislike DAP, find it boring and lazy, and will generally skip over any DAP in a scene, thus turning that amount of content I watch down by half. So I am paying twice the money for half the content. Meanwhile, your servers are so damn bad I can't even download a 2 gb file in less than 3 hours. I am starting to wonder if it is worth it anymore for me. I am sure gapefan will call me an idiot for my opinion, tell me everything I said is wrong, when in fact half the shit he says is BULLSHIT. He act like a pill popper when someone tells him to lay off the stuff. Fucking asshole.

[dap-addict]

Name me 10 scenes out of over 2000 with 20min of DAP!
Also please look at the best sellers lists (monthly and overall)! Of course you have those really well selling Goldie, Arwen and Gina Gerson DPs but its no way compared with all those DAP scenes within the top 10 sellers of each month and year!
Finally, please note that the girls fee is just a small part of the overall scene investment!
If you feel you overpay at LP better change your joy provider!


For me sales figures are more than clear, all that's needed now are better DAPs with more real balls deep performances and better cumshots at the end of those ever more intense and longer double anal penetration workouts. Spice it up with BBC, bigger white dicks, manhandle, 0% pussy, fetish niches like smokeing, bdsm whatsoever, but the basis be DAP!

[Ass2Die4464]

For magizi: Its sure about the girls for most of us, but visiting LP the customer wants a certain kind of sex acts performed by her - and if he wants less anal he goes shopping for her scenes somewhere else. Giorgio as anybody working with them thinks first of the girl of course, but knowing his overall clients profile, he tries to shoot DAP with them.
Nothing wrong, just catering for his fans basically.

Please don't think you speak for all LP Giorgio fans! You are one of the loudest complainers when a scene does not contain DAP so please don't try and tell others what to do.

Also please look at the best sellers lists (monthly and overall)! Of course you have those really well selling Goldie, Arwen and Gina Gerson DPs but its no way compared with all those DAP scenes within the top 10 sellers of each month and year!

I've seen the bestseller list and I don't see your point. Also it is nice for you to eliminate scenes that don't fit your narrative. Should we do the same for DAP and TAP. I don't hate DAP and TAP like others have pointed out but I'm bored with the 100% Anal only scenes (which includes DAP and TAP most of the times). I agree with the push for No holes barred push. As for July currently in the TOP 10 there is only one scene that is a 100% Anal only scene. So let's just remove that one for the sake of being argumentative then there are no 100% Anal, DAP, TAP scene in the Top 10.[/quote]

Its very easy to take a unknown very pretty 18 y.o. girl, shoot a scene with 5 BBC with experience and get good sales, or to shoot another top seller with Arwen or Belle. Really anyone with a bit of experience can do this on LP. I know beauty is in the eye of the beholder but damn you intensely fucked

The real point is to shoot a good selling content with average looking girls, this makes the difference IMHO, because there are more average looking girls then Arwen or Belle on the market.
With average looking girls, the content became more important then the girl, so the contribution of the director/location/action/niches create a content that sells better then another content with the same average girl.

This is the direction where I am going, I am experimenting...

I understand you Giorgio and hope that direction goes great for you. As a fan and I enjoyed the previous direction where you had most gorgeous girls doing the craziest things. I'm still smiling of what I've seen you get out of Timea and Belle Claire. It not as special as seeing you get it out of an average looking girl. We all know as men, what ever you get a beautiful woman to do an average women would do it 10x better for you with a smile on her face. The mastery of your scenes was that you got the beautiful women to do it and smile about it too! I can go on and on with beautiful girls (Arwen, Timea, BElle Claire, Halona Vag, Lina Arian, Milena Devi, Sara Kay, Victoria Daniels, Emily Thorne, Latoya Devi, Kattie Gold, Alice Marshall=, Violette Pure, Nataly aka Evelina, Kerry Cherry, Olivia Devine, Kitana Lure, Shrima Malati, Kerry Miller, Luna Oara, Mona Kim and Angie Koks) that you intensely fucked the average ones is where I save my tickets.

[scott271]

Spice it up with BBC, bigger white dicks, manhandle, 0% pussy, fetish niches like smokeing, bdsm whatsoever, but the basis be DAP!

Would be happy with DAP scene with Pissing?

[dap-addict]

I've seen the bestseller list and I don't see your point. Also it is nice for you to eliminate scenes that don't fit your narrative. Should we do the same for DAP and TAP. I don't hate DAP and TAP like others have pointed out but I'm bored with the 100% Anal only scenes (which includes DAP and TAP most of the times). I agree with the push for No holes barred push. As for July currently in the TOP 10 there is only one scene that is a 100% Anal only scene. So let's just remove that one for the sake of being argumentative then there are no 100% Anal, DAP, TAP scene in the Top 10.

I wasnt talking about 100% anal scenes, A2D, but about DAP scenes in general!
As a matter of fact I do strive for more 0% pussy scenes than just 1 per month shot again, but that doenst matter here!
And I didnt want to exclude DP scenes only from the best sellers list - especially in the 2012-16 all Top Sellers list you see that DP actually sells often quite fine, too. It doenst, however, sell as good as DAP! As a matter of fact I do like airtight DP a lot, its also included in my signature if you care to read it, all I am saying is DAP sells best and there is a reason for it!

Me, I'd happily take 90% DAP scenes (75% in 100% anal mode, 25% including DP, but no DPP or pussy only) and 10% anal only scenes here at LP, but I am aware this wont be happening soon. And thats ok, we all have different needs and fetishes.

[staygold]

BTW, I will ask to my editor to prepare a @NO DAP@ version for anyone is against DAP.

its no way compared with all those DAP scenes within the top 10 sellers of each month and year!

Of course it's not, as long as EVERYTHING EVERY studio provides is anal, DP,DAP etc.

I don't see why you are so against making a couple of *NODAP* or *NOANAL* hard scenes of your usual duration with 90% of bukkake/enema/ any other niche with a decent girl and see how it goes? I think an instant top seller guaranteed

Experimenting has nothing to do with the porn sex act as such

Spice it up with BBC, bigger white dicks, manhandle, 0% pussy, fetish niches like smokeing, bdsm whatsoever

And nothing changes.

You've been spicing it here and there and I appreciate it but as long as 90% of a scene goes all we see is anal sex from the same closeup view.

If a girl puts on a uniform, they remove it after the intro no longer to be seen. If she smokes (I suggest vaping instead because smoking is disgusting and unhealthy), ANYWAY, if she smokes it's only during the intro, not during the whole scene/penetration/outro. If it is bdsm or what you call "Manhandle", it's always lame and dumb steroid muscle like Angelo/Banderas who we have to see all the time and not really the girl. Not something passionate or creative. The best example of "spicing it up" from recent scenes is Jesse Empera's scene SZ1336 but tbh it's pretty much unique, I cannot find any other scene like this here.

Solution: expand the "spicing" somehow so it's throughout all the scene, not just tiny bits of it. The same goes for "the finger".

The basis be DAP as long as it's LP's main attraction - of course, but again, why not make 2-3 scenes a week with any other hardcore niche taking 90% of the scene?
See the new niche poll and votes there for reference.

Bottom line:

Think out of the box, please.
It's up to a director to make content enjoyable for everyone, be it dap-addicts or niche fans.
Giorgio Grandi is currently the best director here, he is not to blame for crap other studios produce.

[dap-addict]

Solution: expand the "spicing" somehow so it's throughout all the scene, not just tiny bits of it. The same goes for "the finger".

(...)
Bottom line:
Think out of the box, please.
It's up to a director to make content enjoyable for everyone, be it dap-addicts of niche fans.

This is exactly what I ment, staygold!

Spice the DP/DAP/0% pussy scenes up with other fetishes, but of course enacted during all the fucking as just the non-sex beginning doenst count really!

[dap-addict]

Spice it up with BBC, bigger white dicks, manhandle, 0% pussy, fetish niches like smokeing, bdsm whatsoever, but the basis be DAP!

Would be happy with DAP scene with Pissing?

Pissing is gone, scott, please get over it!
I was happy when it went, but I bought a lot of scenes containing it just for the girls and the sex acts they performed.
To be honest, if I could get my daily DAP dosis only with piss, I wouldnt be amused, but I'd prolly get used to it (again)!

[Pissing]

Pissing is gone, scott, please get over it!

DAP is Gay, dap-addict, please get over it.
Homoerotic moments: http://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=12581

Concerning the "best sellers list"
This list has been manipulated by LP. There is not 1 Piss scene in it.
"Best Sellers list, all Piss scenes standard removed by xxx" http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos
More then 4 years of movies, and not 1 PMAO scene or any other scene with a Piss genre/tag in the "Best sellers list"???
Fuck that shit !

Bring Back The Piss. I vote with my wallet.

[gapefan]

If I had GG's resources, I would have NO problems doinhg what he does. It's not like he is doing brain surgery, you hire guys to fuck girls in the ass on camera, not much to it. Problem is you think you know what everyone likes, well guess what artard, not everyone likes the same shit as you

Sure, yeah, anyone can do it!

Pay some money, point the camera, and watch the money roll in right?

Nothing to it!

I realize everyone has different tastes. But, I also realize that the premium price for à la carte content has to offer something more than your run of the mill Brazzers scene

Giorgio knows it too, that's why nearly all of his scenes contain a combination of Anal, DP, and DAP (and even a little DPP recently)!

[gapefan]

Most of the best sellers on this site contain none of it, so claiming it sells so much better is not true.

You must be looking at a different Best Sellers list than me

By my count, 68 of the 100 all-time Best Sellers contain it

http://www.legalporno.com/best-videos

That's over 2/3, constituting what I like to refer to as "a majority"

And while it may very well not be the reason for each customers purchase, it most certainly did not deter it

[Pissing]

You must be looking at a different Best Sellers list than me

We all are being mind fucked by LP. The Best Sellers list is not real.

[gapefan]

Piss is gone man. At some point you need to accept that reality.

[Pissing]

Piss is gone man. At some point you need to accept that reality.

I know that Piss is replaced by DAP yes. That is reality, I know. But if I do not like how 'reality' currently is, then I try to change it, like everybody does who is not a zombie.

To get back to reality: it is a fact that LP manipulates the Best Sellers list.