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Postby ehrgocjd » Sun Jun 04, 2023 5:40 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I remember Giorgio Grandi himself writing on these LPAV forums that we will be seeing a lot more of Kira.
That is a great thing, she is doing very well and learning new things and improving performances every time.
She is also very young, and has a great attitude.
Let's support and aim to keep her in the industry for as long as possible!


I changed my mind, her sales are terrible, really terrible.


I don't understand what this guy means by her sales being terrible. Kira's scenes are quite high up the list as far as I can tell.

I hope he's being sarcastic or something, but considering the terrible quality of vids GG's putting up these days I wouldn't be surprised if he means it.

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Postby dodonet199459 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 1:14 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I remember Giorgio Grandi himself writing on these LPAV forums that we will be seeing a lot more of Kira.
That is a great thing, she is doing very well and learning new things and improving performances every time.
She is also very young, and has a great attitude.
Let's support and aim to keep her in the industry for as long as possible!


I changed my mind, her sales are terrible, really terrible.

Maybe a gangbangcreampie squirting scene with Kira viburn and Sasha paige would break the internet and be #1 sales in 2023 and one of the best selling of all time

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ehrgocjd wrote:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:
xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I remember Giorgio Grandi himself writing on these LPAV forums that we will be seeing a lot more of Kira.
That is a great thing, she is doing very well and learning new things and improving performances every time.
She is also very young, and has a great attitude.
Let's support and aim to keep her in the industry for as long as possible!


I changed my mind, her sales are terrible, really terrible.


I don't understand what this guy means by her sales being terrible. Kira's scenes are quite high up the list as far as I can tell.

I hope he's being sarcastic or something, but considering the terrible quality of vids GG's putting up these days I wouldn't be surprised if he means it.

We know only the ranks, not the profit these scenes render or dont.
This said looks like a strange psycho-game going on here and maybe it's rather about her supplier than Kira Viburn in person or yet another reason. :confused:
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Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Mon Jun 05, 2023 9:31 am

For studios, the sales ranking could be relatively high...but that is based on poor overall, total sales figures.
That, in turn leads to poor profitability.

I am sure there are a number of factors for that decision, there always are.
There is a tried and tested formula that really does work on here, and it genuinely interests fans and sells well.

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Re: Kira Viburn

Postby kobekokiwada170008 » Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:41 pm

Recently, the number of her drinking piss scene has increased, but she does not drink piss properly. She is very cute, but this is disappointing. In the next scene drinking piss, I would like her to drink piss properly.

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Postby dap-addict » Mon Jun 05, 2023 2:51 pm

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am sure there are a number of factors for that decision, there always are.

To be honest I am not sure it's a decision yet even. Stating such in the open here is a bit pushy, it might have been made to send another message. On the other hand imagine how Kira Viburn must have felt reading this! :( :mad:
This said there is indeed a tendency that very well selling girls @ NRX sold much worse @ GIO. Same happened with Kitty Doll, same may happen with next NRX-import. Big question is why?
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Postby Nerdperv » Mon Jun 05, 2023 11:38 pm

The sales might be a clear sign that the production and not the talent quality needs to be improved. Al GG videos are basically the same, it s no wonder they sell poorly. And for sure if they continue like this the sales shall continue to fall…

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Postby hjohjole » Mon Jun 12, 2023 8:50 pm

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xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am sure there are a number of factors for that decision, there always are.

To be honest I am not sure it's a decision yet even. Stating such in the open here is a bit pushy, it might have been made to send another message. On the other hand imagine how Kira Viburn must have felt reading this! :( :mad:
This said there is indeed a tendency that very well selling girls @ NRX sold much worse @ GIO. Same happened with Kitty Doll, same may happen with next NRX-import. Big question is why?


Giorgio have painted himself in to a corner.

For the last several years he have deliberately been booking only trashy looking models for trashy uninspired scenes. And by doing so he have gathered a group of loyal followers that likes and buys this very niche type of content.

After the changes that xxx have made to the platform the vast majority of sales for any studio comes only from the studios followers. It is now very hard, if not impossible, to reach outside of this group because the content have pretty much been made invisible to anyone else.

So any time he attempts to go for something with a more broad appeal (young attractive women) he fails miserably. His loyal followers dont want to buy a scene that dont look like an awful freakshow. And new customers dont know that the scene even exists because they are not followers of Giorgios studio.

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Postby steverino1969 » Mon Jun 12, 2023 9:37 pm

hjohjole wrote:
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xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I am sure there are a number of factors for that decision, there always are.

To be honest I am not sure it's a decision yet even. Stating such in the open here is a bit pushy, it might have been made to send another message. On the other hand imagine how Kira Viburn must have felt reading this! :( :mad:
This said there is indeed a tendency that very well selling girls @ NRX sold much worse @ GIO. Same happened with Kitty Doll, same may happen with next NRX-import. Big question is why?


Giorgio have painted himself in to a corner.

For the last several years he have deliberately been booking only trashy looking models for trashy uninspired scenes. And by doing so he have gathered a group of loyal followers that likes and buys this very niche type of content.

After the changes that xxx have made to the platform the vast majority of sales for any studio comes only from the studios followers. It is now very hard, if not impossible, to reach outside of this group because the content have pretty much been made invisible to anyone else.

So any time he attempts to go for something with a more broad appeal (young attractive women) he fails miserably. His loyal followers dont want to buy a scene that dont look like an awful freakshow. And new customers dont know that the scene even exists because they are not followers of Giorgios studio.


There is something to this logic. The homepage is so overwhelmed with dogshit -- including tranny, homo, chubbies, etc. -- it's difficult to discover models like Kira, who is WONDERFUL, by the way. The quality is being obscured by the crap.

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Re: Kira Viburn

Postby YuriyProneBone » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:28 pm

The cool thing of Russian girls coming to Czech Republic is to pair them with Mike Chapman and the other BBC guys.

So ideally if someone from Russia comes she should do:

1 on 1 with Mike Chapman
1 on 1 with Dylan Brown

Other options

1 on 1 with Freddy Gong
1 on 1 with Yves Morgan
1 on 1 with Mr. Longwood

Then also important:

2 on 1 BBC Black Pee
3 on 1 BBC
4 on 1 BBC
5 on 1 BBC Waka Waka
6 on 1 BBC
7 on 1 BBC

Now that Ed Junior is there they can also do

8 on 1 BBC

And I honestly don't mind if they count Ed Junior and Tony Brooklyn, to me they count, they are dark enough, is OK to include them too.

Now I don't count Blackened videos because are usually ruined by having half of the video with white guys, it's a waste of video.

This should be standard for all NRX or Vira Gold girls coming to Czech Studios.

Don't waste them putting them with white dicks. They were already getting plenty of white dicks in Russia, there is no need for them to go all the way there and put them with with white dudes, or the handmade, or anything other than big black cocks.

If those white dicks videos don't sell as much is because they make too many of those with Russian girls, when they should be getting excess of black dicks instead.

Girls that need more BBC only videos in GIO studios:

Kira Viburn
Lola Bredly
Lika Gold
Vivian Grace
Jessie Ames
Anasteysha Lee
Iris Kiss Kiss
Stefany Kyler
Kate Love
Kate Kat
Jennie Blondie
Pure Kitty
Anita Snow
Leya Joy
Sofa Weber
Saga Page
Baby Bamby
Cyber Shot
Lara Frost
Hot Pearl
Princess Alice
Leo Ashoka
Lina Shisuta
Elise Moon
Eva Barbie
Lia Lin
Bella Tornado
Carla Cage
Sofi Li
Queenlin
Loren Strawberry
Mensia Francis
Parish
Regina Moonshine
Funky Town
Eva Tender
Karolina Geiman
Katty West
Loli Pop
Nika Bride
Ellis Baileys
Milena Briz
Olivia Trunk
Foxy Slave
Kitsune Liss
Fiore Sun
Bella Grey
Light Fairy
Milka
Veronica Rich

Giorgio Grandi is doing great, but this one point is very important when it comes to those imports.

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Re: Kira Viburn

Postby melcon » Mon Jun 12, 2023 11:44 pm

I don't get it? What a terrible sales you speak about, her waka scene is 7th best selling scene for may?

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Postby misangrenegra2 » Tue Jun 13, 2023 12:44 am

I just read all the drama about her and their bad sells.. How is that possible? She has everything to be popular: Young, cute and great anal skills.. she is funny and very expressive too in the scenes...

hjohjole wrote:Giorgio have painted himself in to a corner.

For the last several years he have deliberately been booking only trashy looking models for trashy uninspired scenes. And by doing so he have gathered a group of loyal followers that likes and buys this very niche type of content.

After the changes that xxx have made to the platform the vast majority of sales for any studio comes only from the studios followers. It is now very hard, if not impossible, to reach outside of this group because the content have pretty much been made invisible to anyone else.

So any time he attempts to go for something with a more broad appeal (young attractive women) he fails miserably. His loyal followers dont want to buy a scene that dont look like an awful freakshow. And new customers dont know that the scene even exists because they are not followers of Giorgios studio.


Your first paragraph have a half part that was true and is the part of the unispired scenes, during some year and a half aprox but currently, since more than six months ago, he started again to shoot some storyline and making some changes, even recruiting new members to their crew.

About "booking only trashy looking models" is not truth, i like him studio and i have been following and supporting scenes for years, one of the thing i like it is because offer a great variety of women: young, in their 30s, MILFs, with tattoos, skinny, curvy, with some surgeries even when i prefer natural.

The second part about the changes of PB should be affect everybody, not just GIO, i'm agree with you that if someone doesn't take a control and search/review the studios each day, they probably loose some interesting material.
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Postby ehrgocjd » Wed Jun 14, 2023 6:11 pm

misangrenegra2 wrote:I just read all the drama about her and their bad How is that possible? She has everything to be popular: Young, cute and great anal skills.. she is funny and very expressive too in the scenes...

hjohjole wrote:Giorgio have painted himself in to a corner.

For the last several years he have deliberately been booking only trashy looking models for trashy uninspired scenes. And by doing so he have gathered a group of loyal followers that likes and buys this very niche type of content.

After the changes that xxx have made to the platform the vast majority of sales for any studio comes only from the studios followers. It is now very hard, if not impossible, to reach outside of this group because the content have pretty much been made invisible to anyone else.

So any time he attempts to go for something with a more broad appeal (young attractive women) he fails miserably. His loyal followers dont want to buy a scene that dont look like an awful freakshow. And new customers dont know that the scene even exists because they are not followers of Giorgios studio.


Your first paragraph have a half part that was true and is the part of the unispired scenes, during some year and a half aprox but currently, since more than six months ago, he started again to shoot some storyline and making some changes, even recruiting new members to their crew.

About "booking only trashy looking models" is not truth, i like him studio and i have been following and supporting scenes for years, one of the thing i like it is because offer a great variety of women: young, in their 30s, MILFs, with tattoos, skinny, curvy, with some surgeries even when i prefer natural.

The second part about the changes of PB should be affect everybody, not just GIO, i'm agree with you that if someone doesn't take a control and search/review the studios each day, they probably loose some interesting material.


Yeah I literally cannot stand to look at 90% of models on GG these days. You're denying reality if you don't think the quality of models completely nosedived over the past few years.

Just about everyone is heavily tattooed and/or fake-titted and unattractive. Maybe you're into that kind of stuff, but most people aren't.


edit: apparently writing the word "sells" is banned? lol

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Porn Box Bot wrote:Machine Fucking Session with Kira Viburn, Anal Fisting, Big Gapes, ButtRose HPM027Studio: Harsh Pleasure MachineRelease: 15 Jun 2023Starring: Kira Viburn


Can someone please confirm if there is a buttrose in the scene. Neither in trailer nor in screenshots I could see her prolapse blooming into a rose. Very curious to see kira's rose and just trying to save my purchase otherwise. Thanks

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20superhero21 wrote:
Porn Box Bot wrote:Machine Fucking Session with Kira Viburn, Anal Fisting, Big Gapes, ButtRose HPM027Studio: Harsh Pleasure MachineRelease: 15 Jun 2023Starring: Kira Viburn


Can someone please confirm if there is a buttrose in the scene. Neither in trailer nor in screenshots I could see her prolapse blooming into a rose. Very curious to see kira's rose and just trying to save my purchase otherwise. Thanks


Yes there is a buttrose but doesn't come out. Hope for more Kira Vilburn scenes to buy this year

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Postby parlam3nt » Thu Jul 06, 2023 10:08 am

Can we have her back please for some more gangbangs.
She is amazing! :cool:

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Postby PornoManiac » Thu Jul 06, 2023 11:50 am

parlam3nt wrote:Can we have her back please for some more gangbangs.
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Postby hjohjole » Wed Jul 12, 2023 2:29 pm

Kira have posted that she is taking a break from Legalporno.

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So i guess this means we wont be seeing her for NRX or any of the other Russian studios to.
But also "break" possibly means that she might come back. So lets hope she does.

I for one wish Kira the best whatever she decides to do.

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Postby PornoManiac » Wed Jul 12, 2023 4:31 pm

Please don't waste Kira's great potential
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Postby Destroyherass » Sat Aug 05, 2023 10:49 pm

hjohjole wrote:Kira have posted that she is taking a break from Legalporno.

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So i guess this means we wont be seeing her for NRX or any of the other Russian studios to.
But also "break" possibly means that she might come back. So lets hope she does.

I for one wish Kira the best whatever she decides to do.


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Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Sat Aug 05, 2023 11:30 pm

I am sorry to hear that the porn career for Kira did not work out...you never can be quite sure what makes a girl popular or not...but I do think a certain smuttiness, look, and being able to perform a wide variety of extreme acts will help the girl(s) to be more sought after.

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Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 06, 2023 8:33 am

I'm not sure Kira Viburn didnt sell, because scene rankings are pretty good and investment must have been at control as well because there is nothing very expensive happening except 1 two girls pairing, but split in two parts. Background might have been pressure on her fee, which could translate into her LP break tweet. Its just a guess, though. Still quite often recently studios and agencies claim bad sales to get girls to lower their fees a bit.
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Postby parlam3nt » Sun Aug 06, 2023 9:26 am

Kira Viburn come back baby! I miss u! She was one of my favourite here .. she is a challenger! This type of girls is my favourite. When girls can do actually work properly. Rolling with eyes, spread that big mouth wide for us and not just that. I definitely want her back. Fingers crossed she's back.

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Postby ehrgocjd » Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:37 pm

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:you never can be quite sure what makes a girl popular or not...but I do think a certain smuttiness, look, and being able to perform a wide variety of extreme acts will help the girl(s) to be more sought after.

Her scene rankings were better than most of the girls here.

Her tweet implies there was some sort of disagreement and conflict with the studio.

I don't know what it is, but it's extremely disappointing that LP is chasing away a rare natural beauty with an amazing attitude like Kira.

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Postby hjohjole » Sun Aug 06, 2023 12:56 pm

dap-addict wrote:I'm not sure Kira Viburn didnt sell, because scene rankings are pretty good and investment must have been at control as well because there is nothing very expensive happening except 1 two girls pairing, but split in two parts. Background might have been pressure on her fee, which could translate into her LP break tweet. Its just a guess, though. Still quite often recently studios and agencies claim bad sales to get girls to lower their fees a bit.


I also very much doubt that the scenes sold poorly if we look at how they ranked. Sure, it was not superstar level sales. Maybe that was what Giorgio had expected. But better than average.

It is not hard to find models that Giorgio shoots with who's scenes perform way worse and that still get to come back again and again.
But who knows.. Maybe all those grotesque looking milf covered in tattoos and plastic surgery all work for free. It honestly wouldn't surprise me...

And why no booking for Gonzo?? They did scenes with pretty much all other Russian women who came to Prague and who also shot for Giorgio. Like Kitty Doll88, Sweetie Plum, Jessie Ames, Greta Foss, Kitty Li, Isabella Clark and probably many more who i cant think of right now.

I am struggling to make any of this make sense..

Kira is one of the most unique and captivating young starlets i have seen in a long time. Lets hope her career is not over now just because of this.

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Postby dap-addict » Wed Sep 20, 2023 9:38 am

Looks like Kira Viburn is in South Asia offering private meetings.
She writes that to go there at least she doenst need a visa.
Thats sure not the turn her porn fans were looking for! :(
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Postby jaxsonm75 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:22 pm

Kira is currently hating on LP and seems to be regretting her scenes on her tw!tter…

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Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:57 pm

Why regret...? There is nothing to regret.

It is like Briana Banks badmouthing and regretting her Max Hardcore scenes, even though it was one of the best scenes in the history of porn and propelled her porn career and increased her exposure to a wider audience.

Kira too, should embrace her LPAV and GIO scenes.

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Postby YumYum74 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:56 pm

Your statement makes no sense. You have no idea what might have happened, she might have excellent reasons for saying what she said. One of them is imo certainly the toxic comments made here and elsewhere to and about these models.

Besides, she is not the only one; Una Fairy has similar feelings about ‘LP’. And I’m sure there are more.

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Postby ArcanaCaelestia » Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:21 pm

YumYum74 wrote:Your statement makes no sense. You have no idea what might have happened, she might have excellent reasons for saying what she said. One of them is imo certainly the toxic comments made here and elsewhere to and about these models.

Besides, she is not the only one; Una Fairy has similar feelings about ‘LP’. And I’m sure there are more.



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Postby theHud213 » Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:25 pm

after reading her (X) comments about LP, i doubt she will be shooting anymore scenes.

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Postby YuriyProneBone » Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:41 pm

YumYum74 wrote:Your statement makes no sense. You have no idea what might have happened, she might have excellent reasons for saying what she said. One of them is imo certainly the toxic comments made here and elsewhere to and about these models.

Besides, she is not the only one; Una Fairy has similar feelings about ‘LP’. And I’m sure there are more.


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Re: Kira Viburn

Postby YumYum74 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:10 am

ArcanaCaelestia wrote:
YumYum74 wrote:Your statement makes no sense. You have no idea what might have happened, she might have excellent reasons for saying what she said. One of them is imo certainly the toxic comments made here and elsewhere to and about these models.

Besides, she is not the only one; Una Fairy has similar feelings about ‘LP’. And I’m sure there are more.



Half of the comments are completely deranged and I can't even fathom why would anyone take them at a face value. By nature you can't expect a sensible and civil discussion in a forum where anonymous users talk about highly sexualized content. Though I do remember when Tina Hot was pissed at some user who suggested to take million dicks in the ass. It was funny and sad at same time since she quit soon after.


That is true, but a lot of these girls do not come from a culture where these types of discussions are considered ‘normal’. Plus,forum posts or social media comments, even if they are meant to be flattering, can be VERY easily interpreted a different way (same as emails for example).

Regardless, I am not claiming to know Kira’s reasons. The toxicity in social media was just an example (though I am confident it plays a role here).

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Re: Kira Viburn

Postby YumYum74 » Wed Nov 08, 2023 12:57 am

One more thing: I suggest reading Kira's Tw post and the replies (from among others Una Fairy). Spoiler: it's nothing good (it also gives a hint as to why Betty Carr disappeared).

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Re: Kira Viburn

Postby YuriyProneBone » Wed Nov 08, 2023 3:28 am

YumYum74 wrote:One more thing: I suggest reading Kira's Tw post and the replies (from among others Una Fairy). Spoiler: it's nothing good (it also gives a hint as to why Betty Carr disappeared).


I didn't know this happened. I don't want to guess, but GIO was mentioning how is no longer necessary to pay actresses, that in theory they should work for free because working in an established studio means their careers elsewhere can only grow, making them lots of cash on those platforms. That it is a good business idea for them to work for free.

Now, I believe GIO is not trying to trick anyone, I believe he means it, and that he believes it himself. What I imagine happened is that maybe he suggested that and because of the language barrier, it wasn't properly understood. So if you mention those things the wrong way to women that just want to make money, and that cannot see pass the present time, this is indeed something they can take very offensively.

It is possible that's why she is using words like slavery and all that stuff. It was likely a situation of a misunderstanding. Which is sad because Kira Viburn is amazing, and so is Una Fairy. I really hope this gets clarified. In any dialogue it is important to understand to be understood, and I feel they don't feel understood, so it will be very unlikely for them to turn around until that happens directly from the people involved.

It sucks when cute girls leave. I was really hopping to see more from them from multiple studios, not just GIO.

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