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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby JohnMcSpunkencock » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:02 am

I don't know myself either as I haven't seen it, and therefore I draw the logical conclusion that we need to see it all. Trailers are notoriously misleading in terms of the flow. I understand the point you make about it being in the trailer, although I don't agree on other points, but much has been written and said about and by Sofi, and I don't personally take any other relative perspective other than the scene's title without seeing the scene. Sofi is controversial but I love her honesty. If this scene was of Katie Montana or Scarlet Blaze, 2 new girls in the industry, then this wouldn't be appropriate.

With terms of 'endearment' bandied around daily on forums such as 'this slut can fuck', 'what a perfect whore' etc it's positive to always be given reminders that these babes are real people and should be given a measure of respect for what they do. The way some people post on any forum beggars belief at times. They are adult actresses, porn stars and models not bitches and whores.

In the trailer the question asked is 'do you feel alone sometimes'? Deliberate cut then Sofi appears to cry.

Maybe I will watch the scene, maybe not. Perhaps someone else who has can give their account?
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby assmash » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:36 am

im sorry but the fact that GG comes up with such ideas like this is HOT! i prefer this instead of 23 DAP 100% OBSCENITY

Not only does it make my dick harder knowing she cried before the scene and she still did DAPs like a motherfucker.... and all the nasty shit they do. This is a real nasty bitch! I love it! Proves she is a real dirty whore.. or not?

A normal girl would actually walk right out and probably not come back or do such a good scene. This is why its hot.... because she no matter she hates it.... she loves it also.


can you ask the questions next time something along these lines?? :

1. do you regret the first time you did porn?
2. do you get torn inside knowing you will never have a family?,
3. do you realize no man will ever love you as your first boyfriend did, your innocence is lost and your a piss mop now?,
4. do you feel alone sometimes after the scene with so much attention to your ass walking home alone ... realize what they wanted was your asshole gaped not your womanly holding your hand on the way home?
6. how does it feel to be ugly without make up and be destroyed for 500 bucks?
7. did you realize that being a porn star is not the same attention/respect as being a hollywood movie star?

if they finish the scene after questions along these lines .... then they are genuinely fucked up and real whores my cock will be harder only knowing this. dont need all the circus acts in it. DONE.CUM

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby JohnMcSpunkencock » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:48 am

Some like what you 'tactfully' describe above, some enjoy twins coerced into incest, some enjoy girls swallowing as much piss and /or cum as is possible etc. There's nothing queer as folk. Think I'll wait for a more evaluated review
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby .Nakata » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:53 am

:eek: Thiz ain't different of Arwen´s ' Inside of ' scene, she just cried a little bit. :mad: But :mad: the accusationz of the other jealouz producer of to be a full time 'JUNKIE'. :confused: That waz really evilness. :eek: There iz not Angelz at LP. :eek: :p
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Boshanks » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:58 am

JohnMcSpunkencock wrote:She's not crying because of the porn scene she's about to shoot. Just natural emotion. You'll need to watch all of it to know


evil-pineapples wrote:He put it in the trailer, which means he thought it would entice you to buy the scene.

Why does this piss me off so much? It's the exact same thing Meatholes and Max Hardcore used to do (in a less subtle way, of course), breaking down the girls until they burst into tears and making them feel like objects so that it's clear to everyone watching that they don't enjoy what they're doing, or that they have serious regrets about doing it.


You do talk some utter shit sometimes, EP, more so since you paired up with Sineplex. You know full well what's on show here isn't even remotely close to the production companies you're trying to compare him to. If you'd bothered to watch the scene before rushing to the forum to share your negative opinion on it, you would know that all he's trying to do is give us an insight in to the personality of these women outside of their work, previous relationships, experiences and hobbies etc, just as he previously did with Arwen. There's no psychological torture involved here, or attempts to mentally break the models down, he's just asking them questions about their life, interests and ambitions. If anything what's on show here is an attempt to reasure a young woman about herself in light of criticism and pressure from some of those around her, speaking of which, at one point he addresses the claims of her having a drug problem (which were started by the complete fuckwit you work with no less) and he tells her that he doesn't believe that to be the case and how does she feel about comments like that.

evil-pineapples wrote: You will never see this kind of psychological torment at Sineplex.


Pathetic :rolleyes:

evil-pineapples wrote:"Do you enjoy what you do?"

*immediately cut to a shot of her sobbing*


If you're going to quote the trailer at least get it right. He says "do you feel alone sometimes", an obvious reference to the already publicly documented disownment made by her family after finding out about her career choice.
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:58 am

JohnMcSpunkencock wrote:Some like what you 'tactfully' describe above, some enjoy twins coerced into incest, some enjoy girls swallowing as much piss and /or cum as is possible etc. There's nothing queer as folk. Think I'll wait for a more evaluated review

What? That makes absolutely no sense.

Also, if you think there is anything honest about Sofi Goldfinger, you don't know her.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby JohnMcSpunkencock » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:04 am

@ EP, that first quote was to assmash not you mate ;)
I don't know Sofi, no.
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby .Nakata » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:10 am

EP :eek: Did you met her personally? :mad: Or you only liztened the shit ;) of the sineplex guy told you? :eek:
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Boshanks » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:13 am

assmash wrote:im sorry but the fact that GG comes up with such ideas like this is HOT! i prefer this instead of 23 DAP 100% OBSCENITY

Not only does it make my dick harder knowing she cried before the scene and she still did DAPs like a motherfucker.... and all the nasty shit they do. This is a real nasty bitch! I love it! Proves she is a real dirty whore.. or not?

A normal girl would actually walk right out and probably not come back or do such a good scene. This is why its hot.... because she no matter she hates it.... she loves it also.


can you ask the questions next time something along these lines?? :

1. do you regret the first time you did porn?
2. do you get torn inside knowing you will never have a family?,
3. do you realize no man will ever love you as your first boyfriend did, your innocence is lost and your a piss mop now?,
4. do you feel alone sometimes after the scene with so much attention to your ass walking home alone ... realize what they wanted was your asshole gaped not your womanly holding your hand on the way home?
6. how does it feel to be ugly without make up and be destroyed for 500 bucks?
7. did you realize that being a porn star is not the same attention/respect as being a hollywood movie star?

if they finish the scene after questions along these lines .... then they are genuinely fucked up and real whores my cock will be harder only knowing this. dont need all the circus acts in it. DONE.CUM


You've got serious issues.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby JohnMcSpunkencock » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:17 am

Maybe EP did meet Sofi but while some people are 'normal' and fun loving, no complexes there are some who do have temperment or personality issues. That's what we are to be human. Every one of us knows people like that
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby magizi877 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:22 am

dpconnoisseur1 wrote:
magizi87 wrote:why is she crying? :(


Let me know if you purchase it as I love the "Inside series". This one from the trailer seems to be all anal and DAP except for dog DP segment so I'm planning on skipping it.


I saw the trailer and felt similar to what Evil-Pineapples said.

I don't know what the fuck is wrong with GG asking those ill willed questions and worse kept it on the video. That just seem disrespectful.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Boshanks » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:24 am

He didn't keep it in the video, and what is ill willed about asking somebody if they feel alone sometimes ?

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:26 am

.Nakata wrote: EP :eek: Did you met her personally? :mad: Or you only liztened the shit ;) of the sineplex guy told you? :eek:

I witnessed several instances of dishonesty (and unprofessionalism as well) first-hand. I also heard stories from co-workers that elaborated upon what I saw.

Additionally, I was lied to by several models in direct conversation (as in, not through another person), beginning right around the time of Sofi's departure. Arwen and Lita also "coincidentally" decided to stop working with us. Gee, I wonder if there is any connection there?

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Boshanks » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:31 am

So is this bitterness derived from a group of girls choosing to work elsewhere then ?

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby .Nakata » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:38 am

JohnMcSpunkencock wrote:Maybe EP did meet Sofi but while some people are 'normal' and fun loving, no complexes there are some who do have temperment or personality issues. That's what we are to be human. Every one of us knows people like that

:confused: He did not met her. :confused:
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:32 am

Boshanks wrote:So is this bitterness derived from a group of girls choosing to work elsewhere then ?

No. If it was bitterness, I would describe specific incidents.

Not that it matters to you. Your one-sidedness thus far indicates that you've already made up your mind.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:03 am

Boshanks wrote:If you'd bothered to watch the scene before rushing to the forum to share your negative opinion on it, you would know that all he's trying to do is give us an insight in to the personality of these women outside of their work, previous relationships, experiences and hobbies etc, just as he previously did with Arwen. There's no psychological torture involved here, or attempts to mentally break the models down, he's just asking them questions about their life, interests and ambitions.

That's not what he's actually doing. That's just what he wants it to look like he's doing.

Porn is a product. It's not art. It's not journalism. Maybe there's "an art to it", but that's just a figure of speech to describe technical skill, not an actual indication of art.

It's designed to get you aroused with hyper-sexual fantasies that enhance jacking off. That's it. That's porn. Everything in the scene is tailored to achieving that goal. The clothing, the lighting, the angles, the positions... everything is tailored to creating an overwhelming sexual energy that gets you hard and helps you cum.

If you think Giorgio put this shit in the scene because he wants to "give you insight into the models" like he's some kind of gonzo journalist, you are deluding yourself about what porn actually is. He put it there because he knows guys will get off on the idea of Sofi being "put in her place" or whatever. "She's a dirty whore and she knows it, now fuck her like she deserves." Do you not see the subtext? Are you really that deluded?

If anything what's on show here is an attempt to reasure a young woman about herself in light of criticism and pressure from some of those around her, speaking of which, at one point he addresses the claims of her having a drug problem (which were started by the complete fuckwit you work with no less) and he tells her that he doesn't believe that to be the case and how does she feel about comments like that.

It was a mistake for PC to mention her drug problems in public. I don't care if that pisses him off. It was unprofessional and completely uncalled for. I said that at the time and I stand by it.

But, it's also the truth. Sofi has a drug problem. I'm sorry if that's not what you want to hear. Guess what, a lot of people in this industry have drug problems.

evil-pineapples wrote: You will never see this kind of psychological torment at Sineplex.


Pathetic :rolleyes:

What's pathetic is that other producers are willing to put it in their scenes.

You won't see that at Sineplex. The girls will do the nastiest shit you've ever seen, anal winking, farting, gaping, cream, pissing, etc... but you will NEVER see psychological belittling of the models. They are human beings. They do a tough job and expose themselves to possible humiliation for what they do. We will NOT add to that by treating them like sub-humans and toying with their emotions for your sick pleasure. If we ever do, that's the day I walk out the door. You have my word on that.

If you're going to quote the trailer at least get it right. He says "do you feel alone sometimes", an obvious reference to the already publicly documented disownment made by her family after finding out about her career choice.

I got the quote wrong. It doesn't matter, my point was about the editing and it still stands.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Boshanks » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:51 am

Do you and that other bitch you work with not have anything better to do in your spare time ? PC in particular has never shut the fuck up about Giorgio since he first started producing here, and you're following suit with your pathetic jibes and criticisms. I have zero interest in the bullshit agenda you're trying to peddle here. All that ever comes from the Sineplex side of the fence is negativity, if it's not the girls it's other directors, as far as I'm concered the way you guys behave is no different to how PW conducts himself these days. And please don't give me any crap about one sidedness, I'm a grown man you childish fool, I couldn't give a shit about petty dramas and allegiances; I just don't like it when somebody sees an opportunity they can exploit and uses it in an attempt to sully another mans reputation and character.

I've never heard GG talk shit or post trash about anyone elses work or personality, he actually tweets and promotes your own productions on his [spam] daily, that's what he does in his spare time. Meanwhile, your bitch brigade spend their time spewing vitriolic tripe in an effort to cause drama and unrest.

I was over the moon when PC got banned from these forums, and if these are the sort of contributions you're going to be making instead of just promoting your material, I hope it's not long before you meet a similar fate.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:25 am

I'm not the one resorting to name-calling.

Nor do I agree with PC about everything that he posts. I have clashed with him both publicly and privately when I think he has stepped out of line.

If I had my way, we would not discuss behind-the-scenes drama on the public forums at all. It has no place here and serves no purpose. Anything I mentioned here in this thread is old news. You'll notice that I didn't mention specific names or incidents beyond what has already been discussed.

I had a problem with the content of Giorgio's scene today and called him out on it. Does that mean that I think he is a bad person? No. It means I think he made a bad decision. Don't conflate what PC has said in the past with what I said here today. We are two different people. His opinions do not reflect my own.

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Postby Boshanks » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:49 am

evil-pineapples wrote:I had a problem with the content of Giorgio's scene today and called him out on it. Does that mean I think he is a bad person? No. It means I think he made a bad decision.


You didn't call him out on it, you made the sort of remark you guys excel at. This is not telling somebody that you think they made a bad decision

evil-pineapples wrote:Wutdowehavehere, Giorgio? You actually made her cry?

Even for you, this is a new low.


That's being a bitch, It's a personal dig at his character and is in no way constructive.

evil-pineapples wrote:If I had my way, we would not discuss behind-the-scenes drama on the public forums at all. It has no place here and serves no purpose. You'll notice that I didn't mention specific names or incidents beyond what has already been discussed.


So why did you insinuate that Sofi was the reason Lita and Arwen decided not to work with you guys anymore, what purpose did that serve ?
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Postby dap-addict » Fri Mar 11, 2016 9:55 am

I think it wasnt a good idea to mix bts footage and the actual scene in the trailer. Here I agree a bit with ep. But I exactly felt like Boshanks after his first post jumping in that way and I still do feel the same. Those ongoing attacks from one side only show it all - the more that PC coud have exported those girls himself and thus created them other career oppotunities! But first he is too arrangant to listen and second he doent cooperate but just keep keep keep. Not Sofi is the drama but PCs behaviour in the house called LP! :mad: :(
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:01 am

Boshanks wrote:
evil-pineapples wrote:I had a problem with the content of Giorgio's scene today and called him out on it. Does that mean I think he is a bad person? No. It means I think he made a bad decision.


You didn't call him out on it, you made the sort of remark you guys excel at. This is not telling somebody that you think they made a bad decision

I didn't call him out on it? Uh, yes I did. I wrote a very long post explaining why I had a problem with it.

I can criticize Giorgio without attacking him as a person. He made a bad decision. I believe that it was calculated and deliberate, and therefore I called him out on it.

evil-pineapples wrote:Wutdowehavehere, Giorgio? You actually made her cry?

Even for you, this is a new low.


That's being a bitch. It's a personal dig at his character.

Wrong again, it is not a dig at his character. It is a reference to previous mistakes of this kind that he has made in his production. One example of such a mistake would be the "beat the shit out of Belle Claire" scene he released about a month ago.

If I said that Giorgio himself enjoys degrading the girls, that would be an attack on his character, but I didn't say that and don't actually believe that. I think Giorgio simply does what he thinks will sell. He is targeting the "degradation" crowd and I think it's a mistake to target that type of customer. They bring down the reputation of the site, expose the owners to legal liability risk (however unjustified it may be), and reinforce negative misogynist attitudes about sex, porn, and the people who work in porn.

evil-pineapples wrote:If I had my way, we would not discuss behind-the-scenes drama on the public forums at all. It has no place here and serves no purpose


So why did you insinuate that Sofi was the reason Lita and Arwen decided not to work with you guys anymore, what purpose did that serve ?

I didn't say anything that hasn't already been said.

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Postby Giorgio Grandi » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:14 am

About the scene with Sofi, simple question:
"Do you feel yourself alone sometimes?"
She starts to cry.
The "buz" added in the editing makes that part shorter for simple technical reason. There is nothing psicological, just question/answer.
I did not cut it out because I already cut out other part I thought was not appropriate.

Between "Do you enjoy what you do?" and "Do you feel yourself alone sometimes?" there is a fucking huge difference. Whats the reason to write a different questions?

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Im not here to argue with someone who think to know what I do and why I do it without to even know me. Also EP was (just erased and blocked) between my skype contact, he could express his opinion directly.
Unfortunately he chose another way.

I try to shoot what I like, but Im getting bored very fast. So "inside" makes me do something less boring and gives a different point of view of performers.
Im not the one who does the trailer, I simply review the trailers. My editor propose me that version and I approved it. End of the topic. I dont really have time to take care personally also of the trailers.

Degrading of girls in this case specially? This is a ridiculous accusation, this video has a different meaning. Knowing her story we are 6 people here to agree that this video suppose to be done for clean up her reputation.

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In Russia Sofy was almost forced to beg for job, so evidently her departure is a conseguence of the simple lack of work (connected with a extreme low paycheck) and also personal issues.
Arwen simply followed a better offer. She was already on the Julmodel train on Feb. 2015, almost 6 months before TWM contacted her, so it was just a matter of time.

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All this hate against Sofi is really exagerate, she simply does her own interest, like anyone would do with his own biz... she was looking better terms.
With that Im not telling she is a "easy" person, but for sure she is not so terrible. According to what she has gone through in her life, she is really doing very good.

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There is no reason for one model to have a exclusive contract with a producer unless the producer is able to provide enough job to sustain her life properly. I know several producer with exclusive models, the cachet of those models is evidently overpaid, this is the reason why those model are not willing to terminate the agreement
Unfortunately, this is not the case of Russian models.

On the other side, I know very well the reason why a producer wants to keep a model exclusive, I will write one article on my blog (under construction) about that.
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:21 am

"If I said that Giorgio himself enjoys degrading the girls, that would be an attack on his character, but I didn't say that and don't actually believe that. I think Giorgio simply does what he thinks will sell. He is targeting the "degradation" crowd and I think it's a mistake to target that type of customer. They bring down the reputation of the site, expose the owners to legal liability risk (however unjustified it may be), and reinforce negative misogynist attitudes about sex, porn, and the people who work in porn."

Another ridiculous accusation, the scene with Belle Claire has been done with the clear intent to hit the "misogynist lovers" with the backstage.
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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:39 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:About the scene with Sofi, simple question:
"Do you feel yourself alone sometimes?"
She starts to cry.
The "buz" added in the editing makes that part shorter for simple technical reason. There is nothing psicological, just question/answer.
I did not cut it out because I already cut out other part I thought was not appropriate.

You edited the trailer to highlight it. Why? Don't be disingenuous about this.

Forgive me for not buying the full scene when the trailer makes it look so utterly unappealing.

Between "Do you enjoy what you do?" and "Do you feel yourself alone sometimes?" there is a fucking huge difference. Whats the reason to write a different questions?

I already said that I misquoted you, but the question is not important to the point I was making, which is that you edited the trailer to juxtapose her crying against her doing the thing that has affected her life this way.

Im not here to argue with someone who think to know what I do and why I do it without to even know me. Also EP was (just erased and blocked) between my skype contact, he could express his opinion directly.
Unfortunately he chose another way.

That's unfortunate. I would like the opportunity to discuss the issue with you privately. I'm sure we could have a more measured discussion if it was just the two of us.

You published the scene publicly, so I responded publicly. It seemed appropriate.

In Russia Sofy was almost forced to beg for job, so evidently her departure is a conseguence of the simple lack of work (connected with a extreme low paycheck) and also personal issues.
Arwen simply followed a better offer. She was already on the Julmodel train on Feb. 2015, almost 6 months before TWM contacted her, so it was just a matter of time.

Here we go again with the "Sineplex doesn't pay the girls what they're worth" bullshit. We offer them near-constant work. Look how many scenes we shot with Arwen!

If Sofi was forced to beg for work in Russia, it's because she caused problems for us behind the scenes and we dropped her. I already stated months ago that we stopped shooting her for that exact reason. We can discuss the specifics privately.

Arwen signed a contract with us to remain exclusive and then went back on her word when she signed with you. Let's not pretend that TWM is separate from your production when it is obviously connected at the hip.

There is no reason for one model to have a exclusive contract with a producer unless the producer is able to provide enough job to sustain her life properly. I know several producer with exclusive models, the cachet of those models is evidently overpaid, this is the reason why those model are not willing to terminate the agreement
Unfortunately, this is not the case of Russian models.

On the other side, I know very well the reason why a producer wants to keep a model exclusive, I will write one article on my blog (under construction) about that.

What?! You're actually criticizing us for having exclusive models when you have several exclusive models of your own via TWM, your "separate and independent" modeling agency?!

You only send the models to non-competing productions and keep the hard anal/DAP action exclusive to your own shoots.

As to the implicit point of your comments here, which is that you think we cannot provide enough work to sustain the models, it's obviously bullshit. Just look at the sheer quantity of scenes we shot with girls like Arwen, Lita, and even Sofi before she started creating problems behind the scenes. Even if we were paying them significantly lower rates than you pay, which we were not, they would still have more than enough work to sustain themselves from the sheer quantity alone.

Do you really want to start an argument about providing enough work to sustain the models? Be careful before you open that Pandora's Box.

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Postby laura. » Fri Mar 11, 2016 10:56 am

assmash wrote:im sorry but the fact that GG comes up with such ideas like this is HOT! i prefer this instead of 23 DAP 100% OBSCENITY

Not only does it make my dick harder knowing she cried before the scene and she still did DAPs like a motherfucker.... and all the nasty shit they do. This is a real nasty bitch! I love it! Proves she is a real dirty whore.. or not?

A normal girl would actually walk right out and probably not come back or do such a good scene. This is why its hot.... because she no matter she hates it.... she loves it also.


can you ask the questions next time something along these lines?? :

1. do you regret the first time you did porn?
2. do you get torn inside knowing you will never have a family?,
3. do you realize no man will ever love you as your first boyfriend did, your innocence is lost and your a piss mop now?,
4. do you feel alone sometimes after the scene with so much attention to your ass walking home alone ... realize what they wanted was your asshole gaped not your womanly holding your hand on the way home?
6. how does it feel to be ugly without make up and be destroyed for 500 bucks?
7. did you realize that being a porn star is not the same attention/respect as being a hollywood movie star?

if they finish the scene after questions along these lines .... then they are genuinely fucked up and real whores my cock will be harder only knowing this. dont need all the circus acts in it. DONE.CUM


In my time of these forums I have read some base neanderthal sexist cruel shit on here but this is the tipping point for me. Are you being provocative or just one sick puppy? Do you ever stop to think that this is a human being, with her own hopes, dreams and ambitions? Do you ever think that Sofi, or any other performer for that matter, just may come on here to read this bile?

I do question whether some of you men have even enjoyed the love of a woman or if you just expect them to come along, get fucked like a pin cushion, say nothing, think nothing and then get thrown a few hundred quid before being expected to crawl off into some kind of drug fuelled gutter.

Respect and civility are two pretty basic covenants of humanity, it's not difficult is it?

I haven't watched the scene so I can't judge and I doubt I will but for the love of God, Sofi is like you and me, she is a human being, irrespective of her motivatora to get involved on this industry. So when you have finished your wank and shot your load, stop and think about that.

This is the straw that broke the camels back for me and I need to stop and think whether this place is for me. The vast majority of you are sweet, caring and respectful men but some of you have serious issues. What was the post I read about for International Women's Day? Oh yes, 'fuck her and spunk on her and then throw the flowers at her feet' or other such illiterate misogynyist scum.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:00 am

Do you not see how the types of scenes Giorgio produces attract guys like that?

Mr. Assmash is my point incarnate.

evil-pineapples wrote:He is targeting the "degradation" crowd and I think it's a mistake to target that type of customer. They bring down the reputation of the site, expose the owners to legal liability risk (however unjustified it may be), and reinforce negative misogynist attitudes about sex, porn, and the people who work in porn.


Could be satire, though. It reads that way.

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Postby laura. » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:08 am

evil-pineapples wrote:Do you not see how the types of scenes Giorgio produces attract guys like that?

"Assmash" is my point incarnate.


No doubt some people like that do but there are still countless of others who get turned on by extreme porn but still live normal happy lives and who actually care for the welfare of the performers, I do anyway, probably too much.

Sadly there will always be sexist tossers in this world but yeah, I agree porn seems to incentivise their 7th century worldview even more

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Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:19 am

I have no problem with extreme porn. It's all about how you present it. The acts themselves are irrelevant to how you frame the performers as human beings.

I'm going to bed. If I don't respond immediately to any of you tonight, it's because I'm asleep, not because I'm ignoring you.

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Postby Giorgio Grandi » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:28 am

You accusation are getting really to funny for me.

"You only send the models to non-competing productions and keep the hard anal/DAP action exclusive to your own shoots."

This is the more stupid accusation you could ever made.
Sofy and Arwen shot much more scenes for "Gonzo" then for me.
They where in budapest, working with anyone was booking them (Rocco, 21Sex and what ever).
Sofi is not even a exclusive model at TWM, she is free to do what she wants.
I never spoke with Lita.

Arwen, Sofi and Lita were your employees. If you lose them, blame yourself before to blame other people for offering better conditions.

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Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 11:37 am

Ugh. I'll respond to this and then I'm going to sleep.

Giorgio Grandi wrote:You accusation are getting really to funny for me.

"You only send the models to non-competing productions and keep the hard anal/DAP action exclusive to your own shoots."

This is the more stupid accusation you could ever made.
Sofy and Arwen shot much more scenes for "Gonzo" then for me.
They where in budapest, working with anyone was booking them (Rocco, 21Sex and what ever).
Sofi is not even a exclusive model at TWM, she is free to do what she wants.
I never spoke with Lita.

Gonzo is a non-competing production. You are business partners with the owner. It's an alliance. The scenes they shot in Budapest are non-competing productions. 21 Sextury targets an entirely different customer segment and Rocco takes forever to publish his content. (That's not a dig at Rocco, by the way, it's just the way he works, and therefore he is a non-competing production.)

You presented Sofi as a TWM model, so if she is not exclusive, how could I have known that?

Where did I even mention Lita except to illustrate my point that we provide the models with sustainable work?

Arwen, Sofi and Lita were your employees. If you lose them, blame yourself before to blame other people for offering better conditions.

This is so disingenuous that I won't even address it. I've already said everything that needs to be said.

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Why would I contact another person about your content and behavior? That makes no sense.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby utopiaa » Fri Mar 11, 2016 12:19 pm

Pierre must be loving this, I bet he has gained a few kilos with all the popcorn he has ate today.

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Postby Iddaoeeok » Fri Mar 11, 2016 3:17 pm

utopiaa wrote:Pierre must be loving this, I bet he has gained a few kilos with all the popcorn he has ate today.


LOL.

Seems to me like EP has jumped to an awful lot of conclusions about GG's aims and motivations with regard to this scene... which he hasn't even seen in its entirety. Conclusions that seem partly driven by some sort of professional animus/bitterness that he should have kept in-house. And I don't know what it is about this girl, but her personal life seems to be fair game for anyone who wants to comment or speculate on it online.

(PS Laura, try not to let some tiny dicked moron playing at being an internet hardman get to you.)

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Postby Cynewulf30 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 4:59 pm

It does seem that Giorgio is catering to the extremists on this site, even he has admitted he is bored with what he does.That way of doing things may be popular in the short term by bringing in the sort of dicks that hate women but it gives a LP a bad brand name.
I have gone from licking about 90% of what this site did when i first became a member to only liking about 10% of what comes out now, this site needs some serious qaulity control regarding released content, and the mysoginists and extremists need driving out.

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Postby Ass2Die4464 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 5:32 pm

Unfortunately, @EP decided following in the footsteps of his EPIC asshole mentor @PC_82.

Instead of worrying about what GG or Gonzo are doing how about worrying about what Sineplex does. It seems that instead of attacking GG for kicking Sineplex ass in sales they should worry about releasing more content. It has been months and we are still waiting on the 5 day release schedule they promised. Also they should simply do what they claim or just shut the fuck up.

I don't think these girls are slaves so if they can find better working conditions somewhere else then great for them. Is all about the girls for me. I remember on Sineplex scrubbed forum there critique on GG because of the pissing drinking being degrading but they shot the same piss drink crap later. Then they talked about the constant DAP obsession of Giorgio but then they shoot DAP also. How about shutting the fuck up and worrying only about Sineplex. Even though I agree with Sineplex about the piss and DAP it is funny coming from a studio attempting to do the same thing just not as successful.

So @EP and @PC_82 are now both EPIC assholes from the same studio what the fuck is Sineplex management thinking or is this the culture they produce. :( Once great studio, being run by assholes with no clue and love starting drama like another dumbass we all know well. @EP you might as well drop that veil of impartialness you think you have. It does not fool anyone its so obvious from your negative post about Giorgio and XXX that you have a Sineplex tattoo on your forehead so please drop it already. It just makes you sound more disingenuous than you already do.

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Postby dap-addict » Fri Mar 11, 2016 6:31 pm

evil-pineapples wrote:Gonzo is a non-competing production. You are business partners with the owner. It's an alliance.

And you, too!
So please behave like that! :mad:

And about tranfering models to Prague: These girls are not slaves and their fees in Piter were always much lower than in the EU. You perfectly well know this and you perfectly well know why a lot of productions went to shoot in Russia and tap that great talent pool there about mid2000. By 2010 local girls could easily make a good living on this but later it went down. Its just natural that after some time in the age of socia media they get accustomed with Bp/Prague/Paris/London fees and some of them - depening on their personal situation - try to get to this better payed jobs. You had the perfect chance to help them and earn with this, promote them additionally in EU and still later shoot them at home for Russian rates, but PC was too arrogant to even consider such suggestions. Just dry to explain this to PC instead of behaveing like his sheep puppy here now attacking an LP partner!
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Postby Pineapples Studio » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:20 pm

And you, too!
So please behave like that! :mad:

We are partners with LP, not with Giorgio.

These girls are not slaves

It really pisses me off when you try to make comparisons like this.

You're right, they are not slaves, but when they sign a contract for exclusivity with our studio, we expect them to abide by that contract. That's called doing business.

You had the perfect chance to help them and earn with this, promote them additionally in EU and still later shoot them at home for Russian rates, but PC was too arrogant to even consider such suggestions. Just dry to explain this to PC instead of behaveing like his sheep puppy here now attacking an LP partner!

The problem is jealous agents who try to steal the models and lock them away from us. They promise them higher rates and better work, but it never works out that way. The models end up working gigs that kill their marketability (Defiled18 comes to mind) which decreases their value, and in the end, it means they get fewer offers.

In the end, it doesn't matter. We will always find new models. It's still something we would like to avoid, though.

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Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Fri Mar 11, 2016 7:49 pm

Lets try and get back to Sofi and move this other stuff to some other thread.

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Re: Sofi Goldfinger

Postby dap-addict » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:08 pm

evil-pineapples wrote:
You had the perfect chance to help them and earn with this, promote them additionally in EU and still later shoot them at home for Russian rates, but PC was too arrogant to even consider such suggestions. Just dry to explain this to PC instead of behaveing like his sheep puppy here now attacking an LP partner!

The problem is jealous agents who try to steal the models and lock them away from us. They promise them higher rates and better work, but it never works out that way. The models end up working gigs that kill their marketability (Defiled18 comes to mind) which decreases their value, and in the end, it means they get fewer offers.

It never works out of course! LOL!
You sound as rightous as PC! I am not even sure its your words or he just texts you what to write here! :confused:

But going back to Sofi: Didnt you claim you dropped her yourself before her contract (of course your exclusive contracts are good, but others not! :mad: ;) ) ended. So whats the problem with Sofi? You are just jaleous somebody you see as competitor makes profit with a girl you dropped! While earlier many begged you to create her opportunities outside Piter as well. Thats the normal thing for starlets, isnt it? And your exclusive contract could still work!

Sofi is difficult to work with its nothing new, but did it ever occur you she needs care and attention? If you wanna offer long-run careers you have to invest something not just demand. Birds fly always by, scouting in Piter and Riga isnt such a problem, but what we see at Sineplex is an endless stream of nice girls with no real career options. Is that what you want? Can a talent like Lara Onyx count on some more care and true career help of your side now?
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Postby .Nakata » Fri Mar 11, 2016 8:10 pm

:eek: Thiz guy EP iz out of control. :eek: He waz waiting something for attack GG. :mad: Pleaze dude juzt put your attention in to see sineplex production through your 17 inchez screen( :D first hand). :p
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