LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:19 am

Do new stuff takes time, you don't simply start to shoot smt different.
It can take months for setup new content lines.

About pee: xxx (owner of the website that pays my check) told me to don't shoot pissing anymore, so Im not shooting pee anymore. Its easy to understand I think, it doesn't depend from me and I even don't care why he wants like this. For me its fine also without pissing.

DAP sells better then DP.
Swallow sells better then facial.
More boys then girls sells better then more girls then boys.
- Thats actually my stats, I don't know about other studios (and I don't really care to know)

You are right, sometime I could shoot more BJ, Im working on this problem already,
Im not shooting interracial, I will do it in future, but will take time.

We read what users write, even often comments are pretty repetitive and often very pointless.
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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby pastaga » Sun Jan 31, 2016 1:40 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:More boys then girls sells better then more girls then boys.

I haven't seen much of this from you, so I dunno how you got this stat :)
And about DAP, I guess nobody would be against 1on1 (or 1on2) with someone like Mr Chapman. Tarra did a great job with Arwen or Hennessy too, why isn't she shooting more ?
For more diversity, if you really can't shoot pee (even for another platform than LP), what about some creme / milk enemas scenes ?

I must admit I'm quite bored with latest GG releases. I buy them only when I hgave a big crush on the girl.

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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby Giorgio Grandi » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:12 am

pastaga wrote:
For more diversity, if you really can't shoot pee (even for another platform than LP), what about some creme / milk enemas scenes ?


Give me a top sample, I need to learn...
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Postby pastaga » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:24 am

Cream Dreams and Pretty sloppy series from Evil Angel have some nice milk enemas and various butthole suffings.

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Postby Giorgio Grandi » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:27 am

pastaga wrote:Cream Dreams and Pretty sloppy series from Evil Angel have some nice milk enemas and various butthole suffings.

If possible drop me a couple of scene you consider on the top. I will then think about it, seriously.
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Postby pastaga » Sun Jan 31, 2016 2:37 am

You're the boss, make your own vision of it, don't copy...
Basically everything you put in a girl asshole then into another girl mouth turns me on. (other things than dicks I mean)

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Postby IIdarksoulII » Sun Jan 31, 2016 4:19 am

I like cream pies but if you have to fake them you should better let them out. I'm also not a fan of all the circus porn (tap, dap etc.) but I know you have your statistics and I have no chance against them. One man, one beauty getting fucked in the ass (,and I'm one of the few it seems that have no problems with a nice pussy fuck) is all it needs.

This is no complaint though, legalporno is the best hardcore porn site currently and most sites don't even have a forum like this.

Nice enema vid from Tori Black:
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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby gapefan » Sun Jan 31, 2016 6:15 am

Giorgio Grandi wrote:
pastaga wrote:
For more diversity, if you really can't shoot pee (even for another platform than LP), what about some creme / milk enemas scenes ?


Give me a top sample, I need to learn...

The number one thing to remember when shooting great cream scenes, is that simply farting cream into the air is fun to watch, but it's not nearly as hot as watching two girls fart cream right into each other's mouths, and eating it.

In my opinion, that's why Sineplex and Gonzo never had much success with the genre. The girls were afraid to get it in their mouths, and if they did, they would immediately spit it back out. They were afraid to get the cream on their faces. They were afraid to lick each others buttholes, and if they did, they would only do it with the tip of their tongue. They wouldn't lick it, like they were licking the best tasting ice cream cone in the world. That's the key. Great butthole rimming, licking, and tongue fucking, all while loudly farting cream right into each others mouths and eating it. And don't be afraid to get messy! ;)

(The last paragraph is a generalization of the overall quality of Sineplex and Gonzo's cream scenes. There were some exceptions, but for the most part, I feel my critique is fairly accurate)

The other thing is, at least for me, I always liked whipped cream way better than milk. Milk is just too runny, and not nearly as hot to watch as whipped cream.

One of my all time favorite cream scenes is from Jay Sin's 'Cream Dreams 1', with Amy Brooke and Jada Stevens ---> Cream Dreams #1

Here's a list of my favorite parts from that scene:

  • 22:30 - 22:50 Amy bends over doggystyle and loudly farts a big shot of cream right into Jada's mouth. Jada keeps the cream in her mouth, Amy turns around and swaps the cream back and forth with her before swallowing it.
  • 26:45 - 28:11 Jada is on her hands and knees in doggystyle position, and Amy lays underneath her in 69 postition (which gives a great view of both Jada's ass and Amy's face). Amy lifts her head up and extends her tongue right below Jada's butthole, while Jada begins slowly farting a big load of cream right down onto Amy's tongue, and into her waiting mouth. Amy sucks the cream into her mouth, swallowing it, licking and tongueing Jada's butthole and sucking on her pussy lips, all the while exclaiming "mmmm".
  • 29:00 - 29:20 Amy lays on her back, Jada squats over her face, and farts cream right into her mouth. She eats it all.
  • 30:20 - 31:20 While standing, Amy bends over and farts cream right into Jada's waiting mouth, while she eats it all.

There are other scenes from Jay Sin's Cream Dream series 1, 2, and 3, that are also very good. But that one is one of my all time favorites! :eek: :D :cool:

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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby TomUK » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:22 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Do new stuff takes time, you don't simply start to shoot smt different.
It can take months for setup new content lines.

About pee: xxx (owner of the website that pays my check) told me to don't shoot pissing anymore, so Im not shooting pee anymore. Its easy to understand I think, it doesn't depend from me and I even don't care why he wants like this. For me its fine also without pissing.

DAP sells better then DP.
Swallow sells better then facial.
More boys then girls sells better then more girls then boys.
- Thats actually my stats, I don't know about other studios (and I don't really care to know)

You are right, sometime I could shoot more BJ, Im working on this problem already,
Im not shooting interracial, I will do it in future, but will take time.

We read what users write, even often comments are pretty repetitive and often very pointless.


I'm not sure how your sales data would allow you to draw such conclusions? How would you know the key reason for volume of sales when there are so many possible factors? I just looked at my own purchases from your studio over the past few months and the majority of those purchases are DAP scenes. If you would conclude from this that I like DAP then you would be wrong :) I bought these DAP scenes for other reasons (models, other fetishes etc) and I bought them DESPITE the fact they contain DAP content, not because of it. There are many things that make your scenes great ;)

Regarding the original premise of the thread, I disagree with the OP that LP do not listen to forum comments. I think we've seen a lot of evidence in the past that they do listen and probably more so than most other sites. I would actually suggest that they perhaps listen TOO MUCH to forum feedback as the majority of paying customers do not use the forums at all and their views constitute a silent majority which is not being heard at all. I would suggest a better way of gauging customer demand would be a short survey following purchase of a scene with targeted multiple choice questions to determine the motivation for the purchase. Perhaps even allowing customers to pay more than the base price for a scene that they really like and recording why they have chosen to do so.

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Postby Cynewulf30 » Mon Feb 01, 2016 11:50 pm

^
Agreed, i l too have purchased many of Giorgio's DAP scenes for other reasons then the DAP itself.

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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby Boshanks » Tue Feb 02, 2016 12:12 am

It's the same for myself. I've contributed to the sales statistics of Piss, Cream and DAP content, despite none of those niches being the focus of my purchase.

The site definitely listens to its members more than most, I'm not sure how many others get direct correspondence from the owner so frequently, as well as the producers. Op's issue seems to be a case of, why aren't my specific requests being heard and catered for.

I like your idea of an after sales short survey to truly gauge the customers preferences, TomUK ;)

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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby Naaru » Tue Feb 02, 2016 3:03 pm

I think you have to respect the people making the content, as they are the ones who have the experience and time in building a business.

Its good to voice opinions and share them and of course you want to see some follow through from community to product, at the same time Voices on a forum dont always add up to actual stats in terms of sales. I would imagine the majority of buyers do not contribute to the forum at all.

Personally the DAP is good if the girl can pull it off, but I personally would like to see more DP and Hard Anal pounding, better to have quality there than trying the DAP and it not really working.

Giorgio has had some of the best scenes recently but at times I feel the DAP is going on too long with not much happening.

Would be great to see more things like the girls ass being shared back and forth between two guys and this in various positions, also just more tagging in and out where theres a lot of deep driving going on. Would love to see this with some of the recent girls like Crystal and Belle
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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby trashiq887 » Sun Feb 28, 2016 7:03 am

Please produce more enema scenes! Honestly, though I actually prefer water, piss and milk I would be happy with anything. Lube, cum, cream, just really love seeing expulsions with cheeks spread wide and what once was the best option on the web now has completely fallen off since the pee ban. I hope if you don't fill this void soon someone does. (phrasing)

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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby JohnMcSpunkencock » Sun Feb 28, 2016 10:59 pm

I'm sure the guys do listen to forum talk but they simply cannot please everyone, so diverse and bizarre are some of the requests. They do what they do, produce the goods that brought us here in the first place and just get better and better. Check out Giorgio's latest scene with Francesca and Nikky. That's where it's at!!
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Postby vvvv84335 » Mon Feb 29, 2016 12:07 am

I keep spending 4-5 TKT on certain scenes and there are quite a few that have tip fucking. I really wish that there was a way I could avoid this before spending my money on a scene, I feel I'm getting burned more and more lately on this issue. Am I alone here on this one? Am I simply just complaining? I'd like to hear some opinions on this one, since I feel the quality of LP 1-2 years ago was higher than it is today. Today it seems theres just a higher quanitity over quality.

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Postby hjohjole » Wed Apr 27, 2016 11:43 pm

Naaru wrote:Personally the DAP is good if the girl can pull it off, but I personally would like to see more DP and Hard Anal pounding, better to have quality there than trying the DAP and it not really working.


More dp? Really? I honestly don't think that is actually possible.
The only possible way that LP could increase their output of dp scenes would be if they incorporated a brand new studio that also would focus in making dp scenes.

Oh wait.. they already did that, Giorgios lab.

I guess they could always increase the duration of the dp in the actual scenes. But i think they have been doing that to.

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Postby drevokocur66 » Thu Apr 28, 2016 6:59 pm

I am on of those that absolutely misses the piss scenes, and can only ope they return one day. I think I bought almost every single one. Even with the girls I do not particularly like.

but...

facial is ok, swallowing is better... swallowing from other girls ass is even better.

Girl girl scenes are fantastic, provided they use large toys, milk, and fisting. Something like anal acrobats, which is one of my favorite, but it lacks fisting. Girl girl deep throating dildos together, or deep throating a dildo sticking our from other girls ass. Pull it out, turn it around and repeat.

I watched trailer for Proxy Paige, and saw no guy fisting her sexy ass, which was unfortunate.

I agree with other members, the fake lick around the edges rimming is no fun. I would like to see the girls get into it. I wold also enjoy girls fingering the guy while blowing him, but I am not sure that would sell. It does sell with my gf :)

Blowjob is boring, unless it includes deep throat and I mean down to the hilt. Not the fake let me grab the balls and pull them towards me so it looks like I am down all the way.
Coupled with milk and some puking, it would be even more fantastic. One girl squirts milk out of her as and other girl drinks it, then deep throats. (example) or girl drinks milk from
other girls ass through the clear tube (my fav).

guy on girl.. fantastic as long as the anal is balls deep. DP.. sure .. dap.. ok as long as they are deep. Rather see her fisted, than tip fucked. Example Lola Bulgari latest scene. I understand that maybe she is not able to take the cock that size yet, but it is a turn off to see tip only fucking.

My all time favorite, girls pissing/squirting/having an orgasm while getting fucked in the ass. There is nothing better :)

my 2 cents.

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Postby Mordecai35 » Tue May 10, 2016 7:45 am

Based on the history I have with this place, XXX does what he wants and reports to us later. It's not a "what we want" place as much as it used to my in my opinion, and far more what XXX wants, now.

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Postby drevokocur66 » Wed May 11, 2016 1:20 am

All is well. Canceled the membership already as I won't be needing to buy more tickets. Very select few uploads get to see the remainder of my tickets and when they are gone, I guess I will periodically check in to see what the content consists of. And I guess, I get to spend more money on my other hobbies.
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Postby avanfurwet » Thu Nov 03, 2016 12:05 pm

Giorgio Grandi wrote:Do new stuff takes time, you don't simply start to shoot smt different.
It can take months for setup new content lines.

About pee: xxx (owner of the website that pays my check) told me to don't shoot pissing anymore, so Im not shooting pee anymore. Its easy to understand I think, it doesn't depend from me and I even don't care why he wants like this. For me its fine also without pissing.

DAP sells better then DP.
Swallow sells better then facial.
More boys then girls sells better then more girls then boys.
- Thats actually my stats, I don't know about other studios (and I don't really care to know)

You are right, sometime I could shoot more BJ, Im working on this problem already,
Im not shooting interracial, I will do it in future, but will take time.

We read what users write, even often comments are pretty repetitive and often very pointless.


Hello Giorgio,

You make some good points. Thanks.

And thanks for shooting more IR which IMO works well visually with so many pale-skinned white girls who come through your studios.

We customers can't see any stats so we don't really know what sells.

But IMO there is a big danger in reading the historic sales figures and saying, e.g. "swallow sells better than facial" so you start to shoot swallow and soon that's all we can buy if we want to see that model or that scene. So then you can possibly make the big mistake of saying, "look, I knew it, everybody wants to see swallow". But we're all buying swallow just because there's no other choice.

And we have no organised way to ask for what we want here, so we post repetitive requests all over the place.

Some "favourites" lists, categories, requests lists or permanent polls IMO would be useful additions to the site, so we can all ask for what we want.

IMO LP studios can try harder to look forwards to what customers say they want to buy, as well as looking backwards to what they already bought.
Because you can always know what sales you already made. But you will never know how many sales you lost because the customers went somewhere else.

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Re: LP is not taking the comments in forums seriously ?

Postby Vawkes » Sat Nov 05, 2016 5:18 am

Please do not start milk/cream enemas in scenes.

Dairy products should not be put in holes.

Creampie finishes are very welcome though, considering they're all natural.


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