Giorgio Grandi please come back in Russia

[z20502040]

There is more attractives young girls than all others countries. So much choice. I don't like currents models from your videos.

[dap-addict]

Indeed, that would be a fairytale come true!

[hjohjole]

I wonder.. whatever the hell really happened back in 2012?

If you remember, Sineplex, Giorgio and all other foreign porn producers had to leave Russia.
Before, lots of European producers like Rocco used to go there to shoot all the time. Even US producers. I remember Princess Donna went there and shot a few scenes for kink.com. But then in 2012 that all stopped.

The reason given if i remember correctly was a new Russian law that made it illegal to produce porn there. And i guess that might have had something to do with why the rather strange name "LegalPorno" was picked for the new website after Sinepex moved to Prague.

But if porn production was made illegal then why did it never stop? Russian porn producers continued to make porn seemingly unhindered to this very day. We right now have multiple Russian studios releasing their scenes right here. So something just don't add up.

Did they implement the law but shoes to deliberately only uphold it against foreign porn producers?
Or was it never implemented? In that case why did no European producers never return?

We don't even see top male performers travel there to work for the Russian producers. Im thinking that might be a good compromise if Russian authority's really are hellbent on keeping foreign producers out.
Just send some good BBC guys over there and we would have some really fucking amazing porn.

[z2050]

I don't understand why studios are localised in Prague. Always the same models not attractive.
In Russia you have so many more choices, more attractives young girls.

[Giorgio Grandi]

We investigate some times ago how we could make (again) a legal production in Russia, but there apparently no way to satisfy my standards.
You know, to be "border line" is fine, but to step over the line does not really go along with my actual lifestyle. I am way too old to squirm, every time the doorbell rings

[hjohjole]

Now after the war i don't really expect anyone to go to Russia for any reason. And lets face it, the catastrophe that struck porn back in 2012 goes by the name of Vladimir Putin.

Maybe one day if the tyrant falls, we can make sweet love to all the beautiful Russian women again. Call me a dreamer.

But only anal love! No pussy allowed!

[Giorgio Grandi]

Now after the war i don't really expect anyone to go to Russia for any reason. And lets face it, the catastrophe that struck porn back in 2012 goes by the name of Vladimir Putin.

Maybe one day if the tyrant falls, we can make sweet love to all the beautiful Russian women again. Call me a dreamer.

But only anal love! No pussy allowed!

No no, the catastrophe has other reasons.
I explained about it into a post long ago, maybe someone is able to find it and put a link in this topic.

[z2050]

We investigate some times ago how we could make (again) a legal production in Russia, but there apparently no way to satisfy my standards.
You know, to be "border line" is fine, but to step over the line does not really go along with my actual lifestyle. I am way too old to squirm, every time the doorbell rings

I don't understand, what is your standards? What is border line?

[z2050]

Now after the war i don't really expect anyone to go to Russia for any reason. And lets face it, the catastrophe that struck porn back in 2012 goes by the name of Vladimir Putin.

Maybe one day if the tyrant falls, we can make sweet love to all the beautiful Russian women again. Call me a dreamer.

But only anal love! No pussy allowed!

What was the catastrophe in 2012?

[z2050]

Now after the war i don't really expect anyone to go to Russia for any reason. And lets face it, the catastrophe that struck porn back in 2012 goes by the name of Vladimir Putin.

Maybe one day if the tyrant falls, we can make sweet love to all the beautiful Russian women again. Call me a dreamer.

But only anal love! No pussy allowed!

No no, the catastrophe has other reasons.
I explained about it into a post long ago, maybe someone is able to find it and put a link in this topic.

What is the catastrophe and what is the reason?

[dap-addict]

Folks, read this thread for Giorgio's explanations - and also to understand Russia:
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=17895&p=177045&hilit=Russia#p177045

[Giorgio Grandi]

Folks, read this thread for Giorgio's explanations - and also to understand Russia:
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=17895&p=177045&hilit=Russia#p177045

This is more proper
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=17895&p=176905&hilit=duma#p176905

[backflipman]

Oh ok just came across that and read through the linked threads. I was wondering for some time now what was going on and even made a thread for GG Exclusive Revival. Apparently all those scenes were probably shot back then in St. Petersburg with the russian girls. Also the site that features many of the girls Gio had for GG Exclusive which were shot with Mr. Anderson as male actor stopped updating. (I think most of you know what i mean). And also the 21s productions with many of the same models. I had subscriptions across many sites with these actresses in scenes and got kinda frustrated when they all stopped updating. Gio went to Prague as he and many other producers were kinda forced to stop working or to leave Russia and their beautiful models.
Nevertheless its kinda sad the style disappeared with the models. As well as many male actors. I know it's like already over 10 years ago now. But the style of scenes with like Busty Daisy with Omar and with Gio or Anny with Gio and Oliver Strelly with some very hard anal sex i feel like you just don't see that anymore.
Seeing the scenes from back then it gives much more the feeling of how the guys were horny and happy to have anal sex with a beautiful russian girl. Or the guy Serge where you could really feel how excited he was to really stretch the girls asses open und pull them open wide to give the best anal gapes of all times IMO.
Yeah scenes were shorter back then but they were intense and had everything they needed. Beautiful natural girls a natural living room like setting a horny guy. I just wonder if there is no interest in that anymore.
Just imagine a girl like Anny or Busty Daisy in a gangbang scene fucked as hard as they were by Gio, Omar, Oliver or Serge, really get their asses spread open. Can nowadays male actors not create this intensity, can nowadays female actors not perform this kind of action? Does the scenario not allow actions like this to happen?
Is it because their is a a script what producers think have to happen in their scene the male actors get confused because they don't know what they are supposed to do instead of focusing on really just the girl and the sex? Horny hard anal pounding, girls getting their holes not only fucked but spread open for some huge gapes, because the male actor actually wants to see for himself how he opened that hole. Now there is just some half assed slightly holding the buttcheeks for like 1 second and thats the gape you get, south american studios being even worse and the russian ones and the special lube doing more damage than it helps.
I am sure many feel the same way about old scenes and new scenes and whats get them excited they just can't really figure it out because it's not that obvious.
I just have a very high sympathy for Gio from his forum posts, behind the scenes shots and what models say over working with him like Stacy Bloom.
I wonder if Gio watches his current scenes and if they arouse him in any way or if it's just a piece of work that he thinks has to be done because he thinks thats what people want. And then watch a GG Exclusive scene and see how it just feels different, more exciting, more arousing.
I just wish this style was reproduceable today and then extended with like gangbangs, dap and bbc. Much more intensity emotions hornyness action everything, i don't think it was only because the girls were russian. I just want to believe porn can get more exciting going a bit more back to the gonzo primetime.

[Giorgio Grandi]

backflipman, you have several very good point.

The pool of talents that is possible to discover in Russia is endless.
I remember I did like 30-40 casting/month and approve more than 1/2 the girls, for years.

I could probably do the same also now, the main problem is that before, in Saint Petersburg, porn was considered how to say, borderline but legal.
Now, it is not even borderline.

The girl makes the difference shooting porn, but when you shoot a cute russian girl with Euro boys or even black boys, this makes the difference. This what russian porn missed since the beginning, the euro boys.

What I think about the content I shoot now? Well, first of all I think other studios and directors are copying way too much. This is bad specially for them.
Technically I think are much better than before, but when we go to talk about the girls, well new Russian girls are on another planet. A new CZ girl, for example, doesnt have that incredible "spirit" to enter the stage and work literally like if there is no tomorrow from the first day
Euro girls are very rarely like this.

I think we need to separate the content
1- structure of a scene and quality of the video and action
2- structure of a scene and quality of the video and action applied to a model or another

The content we are shooting now are way superior in the first point.
The content I shot before in Russia, are way superior in the second point (the model compensated the lack at the point 1)

So, unless something really deep will change in Russia policy about porn, no foreign performer with a bit of self conservation should go there to work and so no producer should invite a foreign performer to work there and so no foreign producer should go there to establish a long term studio.

Future in unknown, so we will see if something will change

[marcimilan]

Try this in Belorus

[Giorgio Grandi]

Try this in Belorus

Ever worse.
A Belarusian prosecutor issued an international rogatory request for me to testify in a trial against some models, guilty of participating in porn movies (abroad)

I'm serious, I made the deposition a while ago in front of an official here in Prague.

To avoid other questions:
Ucraine is not different. A small apartment in Kiev was seized from the court to a fairly famous Ukrainian model, because it was bought with the proceeds deriving from participation in porn films (and webcam). She wasnt able to get her apartment back, she was basically forced to leave Ukraine to avoid more consequences if she deosnt pay (not a fee, but to the officials = corruption)

Not even russia went to deep into criminalising performer for working in porn. In fact in Russia is not forbidden for a performer to shoot porn movie, but it is the production of porn movie to be over the borderline.

Belarus and Ukraine are not places you can consider, how to say, "porn friendly", in fact they miss the basic. Corruption wise, regarding porn, Russia is a kindergarten comparing to Belarus and Ukraine.

Latvia and Estonia are too small country, there is no base for a serious recruiting structure.
Poland could be a good source of talent, but there is no decent local structure to rely on. besides not speaking Polish, I'm totally ignorant about it
Going down to south (Romania, Moldova and Bulgaria), more or less same topic as for the Poland.
All the Adriatic area, with many small country and different languages, is a waste of time.

Now please dont came up with some bullshit regarding Ukraine as a democratic country, a place better then russia and so on. My consideration are porn-wise, a topic I am pretty sure I know better then anyone else on this forum.

[backflipman]

Thank you Giorgio for reading my posts and sharing your opinion as well as giving the prospective from the professional point of view. I can absolutely understand with the political decisions made and even more the current situation that it was the only reasonable decision to be made.

What you said about the girls and potential exactly confirmed what my feeling was, as well as the studios and the same style made by too many now. So it is what it is.
From the technical and productional standards of the nowadays scenes i have to agree it is on another level. Let it be video/sound quality, camerawork, video editing.

Maybe there is some potential to give scenes a more "amateur"-feeling willingly without losing the high standards. Maybe in some variations of studio setup/lightning, models wearing everyday clothing like jeans and a blouse in the beginning of a scene. Lose some dialogue, don't let viewers feel performers are professional somehow. Or let male performers go through the full act of sex from start sex until they cum in 1 go. Like start with 1 on 1 with the same guy from his start until he cums without going back in line of men to let him fill up his sexual excitement constantly to where he can cum, so it feels progressive sexual energy build up. Then 2 or 3 guys doing the same afterwards.
There are probably endless kinds of variations there. Start 2 then 3, Start 3 then 1 who can really pound etc. Maybe the role of male performers is completely underrated, as they are not just fuckmachines but part of the excitement of a scene.

With many new scenes in similiar way there comes a faster feeling of stagnation. Sometimes when it's hard to go forward it makes sense to go a step back to see where else you could go, also to differentiate from others. You have the experience and skill and probably know better than anyone else what buttons to be pushed.

I know I am not the most active user or top customer. I don't want to make specific requests and i don't expect anything to be done the way I suggest. I just like to give input and feedback
I was a bit stupid and split my ideas across different thread. Like you maybe already read in the application post of Miss Perrita, about general application method low barrier entrance. Or in the GG Revival some input on scene distribution in my second post. Sorry for overlaps.
Thanks, good luck and best health to you.

[marcimilan]

Kazahsztan?

Hungary. Theres lots of nice gipsy girls here Budapest

[thesoundizer]

backflipman, you have several very good point.

The pool of talents that is possible to discover in Russia is endless.
I remember I did like 30-40 casting/month and approve more than 1/2 the girls, for years.

I could probably do the same also now, the main problem is that before, in Saint Petersburg, porn was considered how to say, borderline but legal.
Now, it is not even borderline.

The girl makes the difference shooting porn, but when you shoot a cute russian girl with Euro boys or even black boys, this makes the difference. This what russian porn missed since the beginning, the euro boys.

What I think about the content I shoot now? Well, first of all I think other studios and directors are copying way too much. This is bad specially for them.
Technically I think are much better than before, but when we go to talk about the girls, well new Russian girls are on another planet. A new CZ girl, for example, doesnt have that incredible "spirit" to enter the stage and work literally like if there is no tomorrow from the first day
Euro girls are very rarely like this.

I think we need to separate the content
1- structure of a scene and quality of the video and action
2- structure of a scene and quality of the video and action applied to a model or another

The content we are shooting now are way superior in the first point.
The content I shot before in Russia, are way superior in the second point (the model compensated the lack at the point 1)

So, unless something really deep will change in Russia policy about porn, no foreign performer with a bit of self conservation should go there to work and so no producer should invite a foreign performer to work there and so no foreign producer should go there to establish a long term studio.

Future in unknown, so we will see if something will change

Thank you Giorgio for valuing your Customers and taking the time to post and reply to messages here.

I am a big fan of your work and purchased many 4k videos from your Studio.

Apologies this is a bit of topic, but feel I want to highlight very important issue which you might not be aware of.

For some reason all the 4k videos in your Studio aswell as others on PORNBOX over the past few weeks have been highly compressed and the videos quality is very low quality as a results.
previously a 55 minute 4k video was about 13.3GB, but now they are only 7GB and they all look bad. i watch on a 65inch OLED TV.
many people have complained on threads, but PORNBOX Support has refused to reply to anyone. as a results many of us including me will not be purchasing any 4k content unless previous video quality has been restored.

it only started a few weeks a go, so FEB 2023 and older videos are still in amazing high video quality.


sorry again to be off topic and thank you for your superb production standards.