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Postby Patrick.Moran » Thu Jun 02, 2022 9:43 pm

PauloPornFan wrote:I agree too, but this also has to do with the pandemic that delayed everything, and especially with the departure of the best stars from the site such as:
Arwen Gold - there will never be another like it
Ria Sunn - one of the most beautiful of all time
Alysa Gap - best open hole ever seen
Monika Wild - gone, I don't know where she's been
Selvaggia - gone too
Sarah Bell - Amazing Anal, Also Not Appearing
Linda Sweet - one of the tops ever, anal queen
Timea Bella - Missing Our Princess
Anna Rey - Another Missing Goddess
Lola Taylor - I love this beautiful actress
Nikki Hill - speechless for your beauty

And the list goes on, many have retired, others no longer record for LP, as in the case of the incredible Stacy Bloom for reasons I don't know. Other special actresses have arrived, but some have not appeared like Natasha Teen, Polly Petrova... Anyway, I think valuing the stars we love is very important, I hope they keep Anna de Ville, Verônica Leal, Emily Pink, NiciXDream and others that we still have for a long time.


yeah always the way.. but lets be positive when I was jerking like crazy to hillary scott and kelly wells dap scenes in the 00s, LP didn't really exist early sineplex and of course double anal teen creampies from then on it was hard on my radar

so many epic loads ripped out to selvaggia, sara and arwen from that list in particular :cool:
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Postby zeusanalfreak299 » Thu Jun 02, 2022 11:52 pm

RUShersgapersrises wrote:I think this 99 and 1% comparison isnt meant literally and I rank also rather to this 1%.Looking for some logic or rational somewhere today is unnecessary and on site like this already at all.The one who searching for "real things" which were a few years back,have it difficult today.The aspects that you write arent irrelevant,on the contrary, are very determining.And I would add more and that is a variation of members.Former spectrum just isn't here anymore or very rarely or doesnt manifest itself, and this will make an 99/1 impression.And the jumpin price rising has an more catalyst effect.The fetishes which I prefer have sufficient popularity here but for reasons unknown to me, are quite lagging behind.There are still often good ones but not with such attractive girls as before, so there is "iether or" situation: supporting maximally despite the high prices those few or totally resign.At the same time you can't be sure, thanks extreme instability of models,youll ever see something another...I dont want much whining or criticized here bcs that's no reason why I finally joined but when I see valuable post,i feel the need to react bcs there arent many like that.

PS:Zeus,what do you think about that LP is today a transfer station to lets say "another sphere" (for girls)?


The 1% was meant literally, of course, but the reason is simply that my posts have always received very little attention. My "complaints", conclusions, summaries, whatever you want to call it, simply got lost in the mass of posts.
Posts like "How often do you jerk off every day" get hundreds of responses on multiple pages. A long discussion ensues. More profound and factual posts tend to be much less. That's just the way the Internet and the masses are. I do not see myself as an analyst and know-it-all, but I am simply convinced (even if it sounds conceited) that I tend to write factually and objectively and that my statements also have a certain substance. I would like to note, however, that there are people who are far better at this.
It makes me very happy when a like-minded person is found or someone who sees the situation from a similar point of view.
And of course there are more people who complain about tip-fucking, for example. On the other hand, these are the same people who write every time after more DAP videos in the knowledge that there will be tip-fucking again and the model obviously can not perform DAP. That's why I don't understand this tip fucking fetish at all.

Regarding your question, which is excelellent and makes you think:

The same thing came to my mind, especially with Russian newcomers. I also got the impression that some appeared here to quickly get as much attention as possible with extreme scenes to then go the relaxed amatuer porn way or even worse... OnlyFa...
I'm really curious if there are more girls in the future who go this trend. On the other hand, I don't think there is much money to be made there. You should not underestimate this trend because it would be a loss for us hardcore fans. That's why I am strictly against these lazy and overrepresented amateur productions.

What do you think about it?

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Postby tcooo » Sun Jun 05, 2022 1:06 pm

I recommend everyone to take an afternoon and go through all the studios and set which you like, like less and DISLIKE. That makes them disappear from the front/store page.
That ofcourse doens't solve the issue of just so much crap video/studios being there but it at least makes the shop a bit more watchable. I have between 25-40 scenes every day I have set on hidden.

I do have another ~10-15 studio's to check out again since I did it and thats only a few weeks ago. Man there's a lot of crap now. 30 sec video, 5 tickets and all that stuff.

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Postby RUShersgapersrises » Thu Jun 09, 2022 12:45 am

@Zeus

Sorry for the delay,one would like to catching so much and catches up so little...I don't even know what's new for the last week.So...

It may seem incomprehensible, but it's actually quite simple. People (or what's left of them) are brought up as dumb consumers so that as not to search for the essence.Accepting things as they are and are de facto a whole life in tow of events.Such an individual is then unable to analyze and argue factually (and this doesnt mean automatically agreeing) bcs it needs to be thought through and it hurts.Whole this issue is quite extensive and it has a lot of other connections and consequences but it's on a different topic and we don't have time for that here.

in my opinion, LP is trying to cover a lot of other productions in order to increase their popularity and profit, which has for members like us a counterproductive effect.It follows the path of quantity instead of quality, as in almost all industries.The trend you describe will probably be partly true but I rather thought that the best models with time becomes VIP escorts like Kelly.For girls is better and safer today shot some webcam materials than to make a tearing calendar of yourself from xy studs and far away from home.But even over it all here there are some girls that would be able to show satisfying ones that I would easily buy over 10tkts prices, but they devoted something else what actually sells,so whats the problem? And we're back on the beginning :D

PS:One another sensitive question.You like/watch also some web solo vids? Or its boring for you?
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Postby dap-addict » Thu Jun 09, 2022 8:09 am

RUShersgapersrises wrote:
zeusanalfreak299 wrote:If I check the library, my impression is, that in the past there were much more stunning actresses from Russia, Ukraine, Czech, Hungary, Romania, etc. Almost every scene had a beautiful woman with a perfect shaped body and pretty face. The sex act was more passionate, lustful and intense.
(...)
Today, my impression changed. Over the time, more actresses with „average“ bodies joined, some fat and unattractive.
(...)
I know that LP is a business and try to be more profitable with focusing the interests of the majority. But for me it is very hard to accept the fact, that a DAP/TAP scene with tip-fucking and an obvious uncomfortable/unhappy woman‘s face sells more than a great filmed 1on1 or DP (2on1/3on1) with a woman who is constantly comfortable and shows it with her emotions. Plus: More hot stunning woman would do that.

+1
It's a matrix or gold cage for the wealthier.The backdrops changes but the basic direction remains.Cracks can be observed in recent months and years even more than before ...

Some valid points by both of you ofc.
But what anti-tip-fucking-crusaders dont understand is that DAP needs to be trained. Even a talented girl usually needs 5-7 DAP scenes to get good at it!
Ofc now you can say, better lets have 5-7 DP scenes instead and not shoot DAP at all. ;)
But sales and current porn interest show a different picture. And sex acts as well as fetishes in porn just do come in waves like general fashion. I actually see a pussy porn backlash currently, it will probably transfer via DPP, which is also difficult to perform and get back to more DPs again like in the 1990ties. It might take a few years but by 2027-30 you'd be where you want, IF there is no grassroots fan's counter-movement.
I'll rather not plan to just wait because 1990ties anal scarcity was just too boring for me!
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Postby zeusanalfreak299 » Mon Jun 13, 2022 12:49 am

RUShersgapersrises wrote:
PS:One another sensitive question.You like/watch also some web solo vids? Or its boring for you?


I hate solo webcam content. I think it's the death for the qualitative porn Industry we know. I already wrote about that in many threads. That's the lazy way to earn money. And I don't support that.

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dap-addict wrote:Some valid points by both of you ofc.
But what anti-tip-fucking-crusaders dont understand is that DAP needs to be trained. Even a talented girl usually needs 5-7 DAP scenes to get good at it!
Ofc now you can say, better lets have 5-7 DP scenes instead and not shoot DAP at all. ;)
But sales and current porn interest show a different picture. And sex acts as well as fetishes in porn just do come in waves like general fashion. I actually see a pussy porn backlash currently, it will probably transfer via DPP, which is also difficult to perform and get back to more DPs again like in the 1990ties. It might take a few years but by 2027-30 you'd be where you want, IF there is no grassroots fan's counter-movement.
I'll rather not plan to just wait because 1990ties anal scarcity was just too boring for me!


DAP:

1. I clearly understand that DAP needs to be trained. But the problem is often not the female model. A lot of guys simply can't DAP. Guys who fucked hundreds of times here. They have to short dicks or to limp dicks. Or they simply can't interact together. Don't have the rhythm. So, I would rather use them for everything but not DAP. And take guys with bigger dicks which perform well together.

2. There are models who seem to be very opened from the first scene. They obviously enjoy it and show pleasure. But then there are models who obviously hate it. Their face expression shows that they are just waiting when everything will be over. So why force them for DAP? They could be part in bestsellers like Vitoria Leel without DAP. Maybe Florane would still share her ass for Gio and Gonzo if there would not be this mandatory DAP requirement.

Anyway - Both points are a total Woodkiller and turn off for me.


DPs:

We can discuss that very long but a lot of scenes show that the energy, movement, pleasure in DP scenes are much better than in DAP scenes, especially if we talk about fast balls deep fucking - that's a killer argument. Not in all but in most scenes. I mean look at the most GG and Sineolex scenes, with kid and junior in the past.

Sales/Trends

This is the major problem for someone like me. I think the requirements of the audience dropped significantly.
I'm so fucking annoyed and bored to see these never ending posts and calls for "DAP, 10on1, piss"...
I think we are downgrading ourself, if we don't focus on the details, the quality, and many other important factors.
It seems that people don't care if the DAP performance is great/passionate or not. They simply want to see 2 dicks, moving 1 inch in and out. Or to see a 10on1, even if 8 guys can't fuck and are total losers. Or to see a piss scene even if the girl obviously hates it, doesn't swallow it and doesn't show any emotions...

Yes the sales are showing that the majority wants all the things I hate. I don't think it's great. I also think it's not great that our TV is showing shit only. But the majority seem to like it aswell. This is for people like me a serious problem I have to live with.

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Postby cumdump » Mon Jun 13, 2022 4:02 am

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Some valid points by both of you ofc.
But what anti-tip-fucking-crusaders dont understand is that DAP needs to be trained. Even a talented girl usually needs 5-7 DAP scenes to get good at it!
Ofc now you can say, better lets have 5-7 DP scenes instead and not shoot DAP at all. ;)
But sales and current porn interest show a different picture. And sex acts as well as fetishes in porn just do come in waves like general fashion. I actually see a pussy porn backlash currently, it will probably transfer via DPP, which is also difficult to perform and get back to more DPs again like in the 1990ties. It might take a few years but by 2027-30 you'd be where you want, IF there is no grassroots fan's counter-movement.
I'll rather not plan to just wait because 1990ties anal scarcity was just too boring for me!


DAP:

1. I clearly understand that DAP needs to be trained. But the problem is often not the female model. A lot of guys simply can't DAP. Guys who fucked hundreds of times here. They have to short dicks or to limp dicks. Or they simply can't interact together. Don't have the rhythm. So, I would rather use them for everything but not DAP. And take guys with bigger dicks which perform well together.

2. There are models who seem to be very opened from the first scene. They obviously enjoy it and show pleasure. But then there are models who obviously hate it. Their face expression shows that they are just waiting when everything will be over. So why force them for DAP? They could be part in bestsellers like Vitoria Leel without DAP. Maybe Florane would still share her ass for Gio and Gonzo if there would not be this mandatory DAP requirement.

Anyway - Both points are a total Woodkiller and turn off for me.


DPs:

We can discuss that very long but a lot of scenes show that the energy, movement, pleasure in DP scenes are much better than in DAP scenes, especially if we talk about fast balls deep fucking - that's a killer argument. Not in all but in most scenes. I mean look at the most GG and Sineolex scenes, with kid and junior in the past.

Sales/Trends

This is the major problem for someone like me. I think the requirements of the audience dropped significantly.
I'm so fucking annoyed and bored to see these never ending posts and calls for "DAP, 10on1, piss"...
I think we are downgrading ourself, if we don't focus on the details, the quality, and many other important factors.
It seems that people don't care if the DAP performance is great/passionate or not. They simply want to see 2 dicks, moving 1 inch in and out. Or to see a 10on1, even if 8 guys can't fuck and are total losers. Or to see a piss scene even if the girl obviously hates it, doesn't swallow it and doesn't show any emotions...

Yes the sales are showing that the majority wants all the things I hate. I don't think it's great. I also think it's not great that our TV is showing shit only. But the majority seem to like it aswell. This is for people like me a serious problem I have to live with.

Spot on assessment, I agree with almost everything you said here.

I think for DAP, certain studios such as Giorgio and Angelo Studios, it is familiar team, or mostly veterans so they are pretty professional and work pretty well with each other, more experience, most are team players and the productions are usually top notch.
DP or solo anal is definitely more intense than DAP or TP/TAP, more real estate and space to work with.

I agree also some girls are skilled and experts and very passionate, and yes the details and the quality and attention to detail, should be at the forefront and some variety in the scenes with this in mind. I do believe props and different scenarios such as spitting, dirty talk, ass worship, boobs worship, showing off tongue ring stud, passion, and little details like that should be added if the girls are into it or a natural in those acts and would prefer to do it to make things more interesting.

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Postby obelix.courageux » Mon Jun 13, 2022 7:40 am

If they are going to bring in new studios that feature lesbian content, why not invite or create one that does lesbian PEE content? I would be willing to pay more for such content. It would also give the female performers an option for when their bodies can no longer take the DAPs and TAPs that the mainline studios require.

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Postby vvvv84335 » Thu Jun 16, 2022 1:53 am

obelix.courageux wrote:If they are going to bring in new studios that feature lesbian content, why not invite or create one that does lesbian PEE content? I would be willing to pay more for such content. It would also give the female performers an option for when their bodies can no longer take the DAPs and TAPs that the mainline studios require.


No thanks, we don't need exrement-only content... but each to their own.

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Postby OKCTwister » Sat Jun 18, 2022 1:47 am

The site crashed like I would never have thought of
Even the thumbnails repel me this is how lame production has become
All scenes are interracial, piss is there more than vaginal sex and anal looks like shoving a bunch of dicks in a lock: the dicks are not even in the hole yet bitches are shouting
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Postby Seraph0257 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 9:39 pm

Everyday there are at least 2 new sites. I don't know how any of the lesser known studios can compete with the established, since we, the purchasers, only get enough tickets when subscribed to purchase a few scenes a month. Best amount for me is around 7 scenes. A MONTH. It used to be there were around 10-15 scenes available daily, now it is an ridiculous amount. LP/AV is overloaded.
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Postby zeusanalfreak299 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:16 pm

Seraph0257 wrote:Everyday there are at least 2 new sites. I don't know how any of the lesser known studios can compete with the established, since we, the purchasers, only get enough tickets when subscribed to purchase a few scenes a month. Best amount for me is around 7 scenes. A MONTH. It used to be there were around 10-15 scenes available daily, now it is an ridiculous amount. LP/AV is overloaded.


I instantly hide all these new studios which seem to be too "amateurish" and hope they will get bankrupt. Then the models can work for established studios with better quality.

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Postby zeusanalfreak299 » Sat Jun 18, 2022 11:18 pm

OKCTwister wrote:The site crashed like I would never have thought of
Even the thumbnails repel me this is how lame production has become
All scenes are interracial, piss is there more than vaginal sex and anal looks like shoving a bunch of dicks in a lock: the dicks are not even in the hole yet bitches are shouting
D E A D


The tip fucking is the biggest problem. Your avatar is a great example.

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Postby MackZatis » Sun Jun 19, 2022 5:02 am

Seraph0257 wrote:Everyday there are at least 2 new sites. I don't know how any of the lesser known studios can compete with the established, since we, the purchasers, only get enough tickets when subscribed to purchase a few scenes a month. Best amount for me is around 7 scenes. A MONTH. It used to be there were around 10-15 scenes available daily, now it is an ridiculous amount. LP/AV is overloaded.



Ive often pondered the same thought process. Like in great length & many scenarios. And after all that, I honestly can't make up my mind if "management" even thought about that once. Or if they'd even care. Or maybe just to damn arrogant & greedy to not give 1/10 of a fuck.... I seriously can't make up my mind on an assumption. You can't reasonably exclude any of them, or like the US judicial system; "reasonable doubt".

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Postby vvvv84335 » Fri Jun 24, 2022 7:36 pm

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
OKCTwister wrote:The site crashed like I would never have thought of
Even the thumbnails repel me this is how lame production has become
All scenes are interracial, piss is there more than vaginal sex and anal looks like shoving a bunch of dicks in a lock: the dicks are not even in the hole yet bitches are shouting
D E A D


The tip fucking is the biggest problem. Your avatar is a great example.


That avatar is fantastic, not tip fucking. You can see the dicks grinding on each other. If they went to deep you would never see that.

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Postby Oscar Batty » Fri Jun 24, 2022 8:17 pm

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
OKCTwister wrote:The site crashed like I would never have thought of
Even the thumbnails repel me this is how lame production has become
All scenes are interracial, piss is there more than vaginal sex and anal looks like shoving a bunch of dicks in a lock: the dicks are not even in the hole yet bitches are shouting
D E A D


The tip fucking is the biggest problem. Your avatar is a great example.


What do you really mean here? Can you provide another website performing a triple penetration in a missionary position like that avatar with big dicks going balls deeps? Maybe we can learn from them.

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Postby Paizal » Sat Jun 25, 2022 7:33 am

^ If it doesn't work, why do you produce scenes like TAP? Three cocks in one ass and none of them moves a millimeter. Do you think your customers are so stupid that they fall for such camera magic?

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Postby DPraved » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:07 am

Paizal wrote:^ If it doesn't work, why do you produce scenes like TAP? Three cocks in one ass and none of them moves a millimeter.

I don't think I have ever seen a TAP attempt where I didn't think the time and effort would have been better spent just DAP:ing the girl instead. And even then it should only be done in good positions that allow for both dicks to go balls deep.

I think priority should always be: Balls deep anal > Intensity > Multiple guys > DP > DAP > TAP. If you have to compromise on a previous step in order to perform something lower on the list, the end result will be worse than simply not doing it at all.
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Postby abaco73 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:22 am

I will never understand why any girl (or male) pretending to make money with some lame sex has to be allowed to sell trash here.
There are tons of websites offering for free that amatorial stuff, I really can't understand why someone should spend money for buying that here.
I still check almost everyday, but every time I find less and less interesting scenes, specially considering skyrocketing prices for some studios (I didn't consider to buy a GIO current scene for months now, for example). And all the crap makes me often scrolling fast down (even blocking 2 or 3 new studios every day, same day I have something like 60-70 hidden scenes) and skipping "maybe" interesting scene, too.
Luckily my need of porn is low and I can easily survive with 4 or 5 scenes a month if I don't find suitable scenes for my tastes. But still it's a pity.

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sat Jun 25, 2022 10:47 am

My view for today shows 7 scenes, with 110 hidden...

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Postby RUShersgapersrises » Sat Jun 25, 2022 11:56 am

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:I hate solo webcam content. I think it's the death for the qualitative porn Industry we know. I already wrote about that in many threads. That's the lazy way to earn money. And I don't support that.

Its maybe true...But some of them are impossible for me to ignore.And concurrently those girls is impossible get here, the trend is / will be rather the opposite.And my all time favs have relatively enough solos (it simply can't be done without training :) ).
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Postby pastaga » Sat Jun 25, 2022 12:28 pm

Ultra-Gape wrote:My view for today shows 7 scenes, with 110 hidden...


8 with 110 hiddeen here, and not counting piss doubles.
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Postby Chimpy.677 » Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:02 pm

Legalporno is dead because you all killed him... simple as that. Every time I read the forum, there are ridiculous and nefarious requests and obviously many of the people with those tastes must be the ones who buy the most.

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Postby dap-addict » Sat Jun 25, 2022 5:02 pm

zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Some valid points by both of you ofc.
But what anti-tip-fucking-crusaders dont understand is that DAP needs to be trained. Even a talented girl usually needs 5-7 DAP scenes to get good at it!
Ofc now you can say, better lets have 5-7 DP scenes instead and not shoot DAP at all. ;)
But sales and current porn interest show a different picture. And sex acts as well as fetishes in porn just do come in waves like general fashion. I actually see a pussy porn backlash currently, it will probably transfer via DPP, which is also difficult to perform and get back to more DPs again like in the 1990ties. It might take a few years but by 2027-30 you'd be where you want, IF there is no grassroots fan's counter-movement.
I'll rather not plan to just wait because 1990ties anal scarcity was just too boring for me!


DAP:

1. I clearly understand that DAP needs to be trained. But the problem is often not the female model. A lot of guys simply can't DAP. Guys who fucked hundreds of times here. They have to short dicks or to limp dicks. Or they simply can't interact together. Don't have the rhythm. So, I would rather use them for everything but not DAP. And take guys with bigger dicks which perform well together.

2. There are models who seem to be very opened from the first scene. They obviously enjoy it and show pleasure. But then there are models who obviously hate it. Their face expression shows that they are just waiting when everything will be over. So why force them for DAP? They could be part in bestsellers like Vitoria Leel without DAP. Maybe Florane would still share her ass for Gio and Gonzo if there would not be this mandatory DAP requirement.

First of all no girl is forced to do DAP, thats complete bs! :mad:
Some studios shoot a lot of DAP and that act offered is welcomed and makes bookings easier, thats all. Btw, GIO explained already years ago that he's open to DP but clients of his studios wouldnt support that lighter option enough. Looking at recent sales lists I see DP advancing heavily, though.

Second I do agree that bad DAPs are more often due to studs problems than girls problems. GIO, AGO and gonzo have good DAP-ing teams basically, all other studios struggle. :(
This said nevertheless girls still need to get DAP-ed in and get better at it usually after 3 to 7 DAPs.
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Paizal wrote:^ If it doesn't work, why do you produce scenes like TAP? Three cocks in one ass and none of them moves a millimeter.

I don't think I have ever seen a TAP attempt where I didn't think the time and effort would have been better spent just DAP:ing the girl instead. And even then it should only be done in good positions that allow for both dicks to go balls deep.

I think priority should always be: Balls deep anal > Intensity > Multiple guys > DP > DAP > TAP. If you have to compromise on a previous step in order to perform something lower on the list, the end result will be worse than simply not doing it at all.


I generally prefer DAP/DPP over TAP and TPP for this very reason. There are a 1-2 performers who can pull of TPP such as Cris Bathory, but otherwise it's really not that interesting/sexy to me. There's plenty of both options though, so I think it's fine.

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What do you really mean here? Can you provide another website performing a triple penetration in a missionary position like that avatar with big dicks going balls deeps? Maybe we can learn from them.


There are not any sites with better TAP or TAP in general. Why? Because TAP is not possible. Only 1 of the 3 cocks move, at least 1 inch... You can't call that penetration. Call that TAS or whatever.. triple anal sticking. Thats great to shoot a photo for a cover. But there is zero movement and penetration in it. It's kind of a fake and boring, a waste of time on the set. And a woodkiller.

A lot of DAP scences have the same problem. Only 1 cock is penetrating. The other one is sticking. And often the fucking cock is limp as fuck... Or the model is too tight and behaves annoying and uncomfortable. That's awkward and a turn off too.

So it's nothing about you, but an anatomical problem.

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Postby beklof » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:49 pm

Good discussion and valid criticism of TAP.
I myself have never understood what the idea is!? Three dicks squeeze the girl's ass and there they are completely motionless! I don't understand who can be interested in such a thing?? Excitement occurs specifically when dicks move in the ass and I don't understand how anyone can get excited just because three dicks are in the girls ass practically completely motionless?? Instead, two dicks in the ass and one in vaginal works if it's done properly and the male actors know their job.

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Postby verts » Sat Jul 30, 2022 10:54 pm

TAP is for photo collections only with a few exceptions. I think those who are picketing for further TAP scenes need to accept that and instead ask for TP. DPP+A or DAP+P.

Also, this nonsense of "tip fucking" needs proper interrogation. Tipfucking was indeed a problem, but in the U.S. in early, early 2000s.

We are a long way removed from that. I feel it's ridiculous notion, that any "tip-fucking" is occurring. To the extent that I don't even wish to entertain it for argument. If someone else cares enough to put that beast of an argument down, please do it.

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most members and fans are the ones to blame, no one says nada at all at the poor productions that some studios are making. they even praise them for their work.
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visigoth2020260 wrote:most members and fans are the ones to blame, no one says nada at all at the poor productions that some studios are making. they even praise them for their work.

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there's a lot of reaalllly disgusting stuff on this website. All the complaining about gay porn but not the same smoke for horrendous stuff. Maybe there is but I don't see it as much. I clicked on the page for a beautiful performer named Monika Fox and the first image I saw looked like something out of a horror film. What Guys masturbate to that disgusting stuff??

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zeusanalfreak299 wrote:A lot of DAP scences have the same problem. Only 1 cock is penetrating. The other one is sticking. And often the fucking cock is limp as fuck... Or the model is too tight and behaves annoying and uncomfortable. That's awkward and a turn off too.

Yep, too much of this happening also in DAP. :(
There sure has to be more quality control and girls have to train their ass more prior to DAP scenes. Problem is high demand has lead to lower standards. Its not as much an anatomical problem as a problem of training.

I'd also consider a DAP performance based fee plus/minus 100-200$ similar to deductions for being late on set.
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zeusanalfreak299 wrote:A lot of DAP scences have the same problem. Only 1 cock is penetrating. The other one is sticking. And often the fucking cock is limp as fuck... Or the model is too tight and behaves annoying and uncomfortable. That's awkward and a turn off too.

Yep, too much of this happening also in DAP. :(
There sure has to be more quality control and girls have to train their ass more prior to DAP scenes. Problem is high demand has lead to lower standards. Its not as much an anatomical problem as a problem of training.

I'd also consider a DAP performance based fee plus/minus 100-200$ similar to deductions for being late on set.


I would consider extra cash for all kind of performances. A girl performing a doggy DP or 1on1 like a shrimp (you know who) doesn't deserve the same cash like Vitoria Leel, for example. Same with pissing, DAP, swollowing...

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zeusanalfreak299 wrote:
dap-addict wrote:[
zeusanalfreak299 wrote:A lot of DAP scences have the same problem. Only 1 cock is penetrating. The other one is sticking. And often the fucking cock is limp as fuck... Or the model is too tight and behaves annoying and uncomfortable. That's awkward and a turn off too.

Yep, too much of this happening also in DAP. :(
There sure has to be more quality control and girls have to train their ass more prior to DAP scenes. Problem is high demand has lead to lower standards. Its not as much an anatomical problem as a problem of training.

I'd also consider a DAP performance based fee plus/minus 100-200$ similar to deductions for being late on set.


I would consider extra cash for all kind of performances. A girl performing a doggy DP or 1on1 like a shrimp (you know who) doesn't deserve the same cash like Vitoria Leel, for example. Same with pissing, DAP, swollowing...


I think each performer has their own rate, you cannot expect a DAP scene for a total newbie to porn to be paid the same as someone like Veronica Leal doing DAP....

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beklof wrote:Good discussion and valid criticism of TAP.
I myself have never understood what the idea is!? Three dicks squeeze the girl's ass and there they are completely motionless! I don't understand who can be interested in such a thing?? Excitement occurs specifically when dicks move in the ass and I don't understand how anyone can get excited just because three dicks are in the girls ass practically completely motionless?? Instead, two dicks in the ass and one in vaginal works if it's done properly and the male actors know their job.


I'd go one further argue that a single dick in the ass is capable of far faster fucking that any DAP, which is one reason I prefer the former.

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Ultra-Gape wrote:
beklof wrote:Good discussion and valid criticism of TAP.
I myself have never understood what the idea is!? Three dicks squeeze the girl's ass and there they are completely motionless! I don't understand who can be interested in such a thing?? Excitement occurs specifically when dicks move in the ass and I don't understand how anyone can get excited just because three dicks are in the girls ass practically completely motionless?? Instead, two dicks in the ass and one in vaginal works if it's done properly and the male actors know their job.


I'd go one further argue that a single dick in the ass is capable of far faster fucking that any DAP, which is one reason I prefer the former.


I think the same, if there are lust, passion, energy.

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xxxVIPERxxx wrote:
I think each performer has their own rate, you cannot expect a DAP scene for a total newbie to porn to be paid the same as someone like Veronica Leal doing DAP....


Yes, but we are talking about EXTRA cash. A newbie shouldn't get or expect anything in the first scenes. But extra cash would give the motivation to performe better in several poses and moments, maybe.

I also thought about giving extra cash to models if their scenes become best sellers. Maybe this would increase the quality on the set consideeing behaviour and body postures. Problem is that lightning and camera work has a big influence, too.

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zeusanalfreak299 wrote:I also thought about giving extra cash to models if their scenes become best sellers.

That's completely not in gestation of the girl, the more as sales results depend also on scenes released the same day, i.e. overall PB release schedule.

But an extra payment of plus-minus 10% for more DAP positions, positions kept, non-evading strategies etc. would make DAP better for sure. DAP fees are individual and vary ofc. Thus extra payment could also be payed on average going rate for given studio and place of production.
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Ultra-Gape wrote:
beklof wrote:Good discussion and valid criticism of TAP.
I myself have never understood what the idea is!? Three dicks squeeze the girl's ass and there they are completely motionless! I don't understand who can be interested in such a thing?? Excitement occurs specifically when dicks move in the ass and I don't understand how anyone can get excited just because three dicks are in the girls ass practically completely motionless?? Instead, two dicks in the ass and one in vaginal works if it's done properly and the male actors know their job.


I'd go one further argue that a single dick in the ass is capable of far faster fucking that any DAP, which is one reason I prefer the former.


I feel that single dick in the ass is more something you would go to Evil Angel, Mike Adriano, Jules Jordan or even Brazzers for. I hope it doesn't become too common here as there are so many sites that offer this.

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