Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[Panorama]

First of all, I have to respectfully disagree with you there Valencia. Neither "sumacs" or "poldijk" have said anything that has distracted from this thread. I actually believe that we need more people who haven't been so closely involved with the industry to speak out about Woodman here. Both you and Blue have obvious ties with the creep and it more than shows in your posts..... which I totally get and more often than not am astounded by. But we can't turn away people who though a lack of education in Woodman's underhanded techniques, admire him.
Neither of the two above members has come here to cause trouble, they came to say what THEY felt about him. Not all of us were financially or professionally damaged by this awful man, some of us have just seen his video's and admired him without really knowing WHO he really is. These people SHOULD NOT be chased away.
It's easy with an imbittered mind to criticize those and probably drive them back to support Woodman, but surely it's more productive to show them the evidence (which you have so much of) and let them see that their support for him helps the man to continue manipulating models.
Most of Woodman's members that come here will lurk and read what we say, Woodman's alter-egos are easy to spot as so are "The Haters" on his own forum. The difference is we can convince the genuine to at least hear us out, the haters will always be haters.

sumacs, I'm glad you decided to junk your membership even though you actually weren't financially supporting him. The gesture alone is a win for what is right. Woodman doesn't need the money but every member that leaves his site makes him psychologically shine just that little bit dimmer. He WILL see your post here.... and many of his followers will see it too and hopefully look within themselves to see if their support feels right.
Hopefully, you'll stick around because I'm surrounded by guys who know the ins and the outs of the porn industry and I often feel isolated. But if you don't, I wish you all the best for the future and thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my thoughts with you.

[sumacs3]

. . . sumacs, I'm glad you decided to junk your membership even though you actually weren't financially supporting him. The gesture alone is a win for what is right. Woodman doesn't need the money but every member that leaves his site makes him psychologically shine just that little bit dimmer. He WILL see your post here.... and many of his followers will see it too and hopefully look within themselves to see if their support feels right.
Hopefully, you'll stick around because I'm surrounded by guys who know the ins and the outs of the porn industry and I often feel isolated. But if you don't, I wish you all the best for the future and thank you for giving me the opportunity to share my thoughts with you.

Thank you, Panorama. Your newest post here is a very respectful and understanding one for all those who have been influenced by PW in whatever way. Truly "Panoramic." Although it is true that I had joined his site to further discuss Wendy as much as possible, and had planned to stay a member to continue the quest, this "circus" forum convinced me it was time to move on. Thanks again.

[Panorama]

Good to see you guys taking note of the forum!
Firstly "JDR" I don't know who "Vince Karter" is or what he did with "Marie Berger" (don't know who she is either) so how could I comment on what they did. If it was something shot by WGCZ or whoever they're called I'd be right with you complaining (If you did?) But this thread is about Pierre Woodman. I'm only concerned with what HE does. Ask yourself, why would a nobody guy who quite obviously knows NOTHING about DAP, DP, RGS, and crap like that want to attack Pierre Woodman? Well, it's because although I know nothing about the hardcore sex industry, I do know about how to treat people with dignity and respect, and I really dislike people who don't afford that courtesy to others. I especially dislike people who take advantage of, manipulate, and degrade people MUCH younger than themselves. You know who I'm talking about.
You need to start opening your eye's research your own information and not just believe what Pierre tells you. Go and watch his old castings, talk with some of those models, read his forum and instead of looking at it from your own selfish point of view, look at it from your own daughter's point of view, because every model who you want to see "get the Woodman treatment" is somebody's daughter.

By the way "damix". He has not discovered 80-90% of the world's most famous porn stars, those women would have become famous without any input from Woodman at all. They are still mentioned by other producers, and award ceremonies, alas Woodman is not. You mention 8 of those women as an example, now go and put that figure to the number of models that were never seen again but had the potential of being famous (Sylvia Buntarka being one of the latest) but were utterly dissuaded by Woodman's deceitful behaviour. Or the already famous models who could have been spectacular "hardcore" actresses but never did boy/girl work after seeing Woodman. Go look, you'll find hundreds, if not thousands!!

As for Freya, do you really seriously think that she is going to worry about whether she was remembered in 20 years' time?? Seriously??? Most women who work in the adult industry NEVER even want to speak about their past careers, never mind worrying about whether they were great or not! AND (and I say this from speaking to them) most will NOT even speak about their experience with Woodman! Not a glowing report eh?? Again you're listening to Pierre when you should be using your own brains and doing your own research. So please, stop worrying about Freya. She made the best decision she probably has EVER made not seeing Woodman, unlike many, many models before her the memory of being violated by him will NOT be a problem for her!

[BlueShadow]

Are you enjoying? Good. Me too LOL
And no, it was not discussed, I just stated facts. (that you keep ignoring like a good sheep )
Your post put here was about you (the usal member of PW, the umblemished hero, that pretend to be blind) criticizing Rocco for being rude in saying that a model was not suited for porn.
https://forum.pornbox.com/viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&start=3160#p658606

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Speaking of dumb comment
What about here? When PW says that he was expecting for Ginebra Bellucci a better ''career'' for this ''perfect angel'' (just because she didn't listen to him to not make anal right away for other productions ('cause it's no good for her career) also for LP/AV. The usual ''self serving advice'')?


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But let's see this bad and unprolific career of Ginebra Bellucci:



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And here? PW may not have been rude to say these things on a public forum? (not that it matters what egoman says, as we can see from how many productions Ginebra worked) After he called her perfect ANGEL...the here he says exactly the opposite ahahahah and you give credit to this clown.


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and what about here mr. JDR, since you like to be such a paladin... here PW wasn't rude with these comments about a model?




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and here, with Kitana Lure?


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here with Misha Cross saying she will never be Lana Rhoades etc. (after he bashed also Lana Rhoades btw, this clown )


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and here?? Maybe he was nice to Ivy Rein, bashing her just because she doesn't want to work for him?


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And also here...he was professional making fun of a girl exposing her in this way? And also call her ''Dumb''? C'mon...whats your opinion mr. JDR (aka PW probably)??


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Here instead for sure he wasn't RUDE with Zlata Shine, right? (always because she refused to work there, and certainly Zlata Shine has no problem working with any production in Budapest, Prague, Barcelona... even if she didn't start with anal in the hotel rooms of PW...




So 1-before you talk about rude comments, look at your own house first.
2- that last sentence about "history proves..." you can shove it up your ass, you'll make better use of it. And excuse me for being ''rude''.

So your own question I asked you...it doesn't recall that instead when PW bash the girls I ever heard you criticize him...or maybe weren't rude comments?
You are just a sheep...get informed.
So, same things...you speak bad of others...but never of PW that basically do same things...but on a public forum.
And I repeat what I said...before you moralize, look at your own house first.

[BlueShadow]

Good to see you guys taking note of the forum!
Firstly "JDR" I don't know who "Vince Karter" is or what he did with "Marie Berger" (don't know who she is either) so how could I comment on what they did. If it was something shot by WGCZ or whoever they're called I'd be right with you complaining (If you did?) But this thread is about Pierre Woodman. I'm only concerned with what HE does. Ask yourself, why would a nobody guy who quite obviously knows NOTHING about DAP, DP, RGS, and crap like that want to attack Pierre Woodman? Well, it's because although I know nothing about the hardcore sex industry, I do know about how to treat people with dignity and respect, and I really dislike people who don't afford that courtesy to others. I especially dislike people who take advantage of, manipulate, and degrade people MUCH younger than themselves. You know who I'm talking about.
You need to start opening your eye's research your own information and not just believe what Pierre tells you. Go and watch his old castings, talk with some of those models, read his forum and instead of looking at it from your own selfish point of view, look at it from your own daughter's point of view, because every model who you want to see "get the Woodman treatment" is somebody's daughter.

By the way "damix". He has not discovered 80-90% of the world's most famous porn stars, those women would have become famous without any input from Woodman at all. They are still mentioned by other producers, and award ceremonies, alas Woodman is not. You mention 8 of those women as an example, now go and put that figure to the number of models that were never seen again but had the potential of being famous (Sylvia Buntarka being one of the latest) but were utterly dissuaded by Woodman's deceitful behaviour. Or the already famous models who could have been spectacular "hardcore" actresses but never did boy/girl work after seeing Woodman. Go look, you'll find hundreds, if not thousands!!

As for Freya, do you really seriously think that she is going to worry about whether she was remembered in 20 years' time?? Seriously??? Most women who work in the adult industry NEVER even want to speak about their past careers, never mind worrying about whether they were great or not! AND (and I say this from speaking to them) most will NOT even speak about their experience with Woodman! Not a glowing report eh?? Again you're listening to Pierre when you should be using your own brains and doing your own research. So please, stop worrying about Freya. She made the best decision she probably has EVER made not seeing Woodman, unlike many, many models before her the memory of being violated by him will NOT be a problem for her!

He's just an IDIOT...we have to talk about Vince Karter...in PW thread. Genius.

But of those "rude" comments about models made by PW still no comments from this mr.JDR...not even in Freya Mayer's thread where he reply...and there are some "not nice" comments from PW about her there... he only do the ''white chavalier'' with others

[BlueShadow]

As for Freya, do you really seriously think that she is going to worry about whether she was remembered in 20 years' time?? Seriously??? Most women who work in the adult industry NEVER even want to speak about their past careers, never mind worrying about whether they were great or not! AND (and I say this from speaking to them) most will NOT even speak about their experience with Woodman! Not a glowing report eh?? Again you're listening to Pierre when you should be using your own brains and doing your own research. So please, stop worrying about Freya. She made the best decision she probably has EVER made not seeing Woodman, unlike many, many models before her the memory of being violated by him will NOT be a problem for her!

and it's not even a problem for PW himself...the agency will send others naive newbies to him (if someone then becomes famous he can always brag that she's famous JUST because she started there LOL)...why keep thinking of Freya as having broken his heart...ah yes, he's a pathological narcissist (he need drama) ,I always forget he has mental issues.

[sumacs3]

. . . ah yes, he's a pathological narcissist (he need drama) ,I always forget he has mental issues.

Thanks, BlueShadow.

You are one of my "Columbo's of Porn." I am the one who went on about Wendy, but not to thereby suggest all of your well-documented discussions were wrong. You have all those bases covered! And more being discovered!

Your input helped me decide to "apply" to cancel my free membership to his site. I was otherwise going to stay on with him in hopes of any new tidbits about WM. I did take my time before making this decision, as I like to really evaluate things first.

I think the psychology community tries to label various forms of what used to be called evil as an illness that the person has no real control over, thereby almost excusing the behavior. I think that the behaviors of a narcissist are choices freely made, in a calculated manner, and that evil is based largely on intention, which means that narcissists know exactly what they are doing and are basically evil. That does not mean they are necessarily always doing bad things. They might genuinely like someone and show it occasionally, as he did with WM, even to the point of his suggesting that she had moved on with her life so let's leave it, but if that person stands up to the narcissist, then so much for the "friendship." The overall personality framework is basically sinister, evil.

I also agree with you and others here that things have certainly deteriorated.
Walking all over a model is supposed to be a figurative expression only!

If you like, here is a good discussion about narcissism and evil, and the YouTube comments are not bad either, overall.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fPmPy90cyo

Thanks again.
sumacs

[Panorama]

Good to see that you've stuck around sumacs. That YouTube clip was very interesting. Despite most of it going clean over my head, I tend to agree with what this person said in the comments.

" To intentionally injure a person, whether for personal gain, pleasure or to satisfy a need without remorse, is evil. To do it repeatedly, after the consequences are explained, is evil. To not care how one’s words or actions affect a person is evil. To habitually lie, deceive or manipulate another person for personal gain is evil. They may not be aware that they are evil. Maybe that’s all they’ve known but it is still evil and should be avoided at all costs.

Not only did that statement describe Pierre Woodman, in a nutshell, my jaw nearly hit the floor when the doctor in the clip reeled off checkboxes about narcissistic traits. Woodman ticks EVERY SINGLE ONE! There is no doubt in my mind that he is a narcissist, and I've always said that usually, I would feel sorry for someone who is not right in the head. But I've also said that I have no sympathy for someone (like Woodman) who has been told he needs help who then goes on and does what he has done FOR YEARS.
I'm also convinced that he was abused while young (my thought, not necessarily fact) and that has led to him being what he is today. That doesn't excuse him for what he's done to women.

Continuing with a narcissist's grandiose ideas, Pierre claims that he has had offers about a book and film about his life. Here we are 23 years later and still no book/film.
There isn't a publicist or filmmaker that would touch Woodman with a 10-foot barge pole. To make a glorifying film about Putin's best mate today would spell utter disaster for any company even thinking about it.

WOODMAN MEMBERS, DREAM ON, IT'LL NEVER HAPPEN! Oh, and in case you didn't see it here's that address again (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fPmPy90cyo) You tell me you don't see Woodman in any of that discussion?????

[ValenciaCF]

Well this 'JDR' guy is a real asslicker of Woodman. And we can see that.

We are not psychos here but guys stating clear facts that your little Master Woodman is not a good guy. He hates women and It's so obvious from his recent comment about Freya. Insulting the girl for doing porn lolololol you can see for yourself what he thinks about girls when he tells her she sucks dicks for a living. Why would a man in porn industry say that to a model??? So obviously he sees them at whores and nothing else but you are so far up his ass, you can't even see what he does. A hypocrite who manipulates and films them but when they refuse to let him fuck their ass or not wabt to work fir him, he cries like a baby and starts telling lies and making them feel bad, he wants to insult and shame. He's such a weak man. He wreaks of Little dick energy
How many girls has he blasted publicly??? According to him less than 10 but in just few minutes I manged to pull a list of girls who he insulted and had problems with...less than 10 my ass. He is the fucking problem!!! His ego is so fragile. They are only nice and good girls when they let him fuck their ass. When they refuse this ugly idiot them je wants to bitch and moan and start trouble for the girls. Go to fuck off man!!!
And we will continue to protect these girls from his evil clutches. No woman should be spoken to or treated the way he does to them. He has no rrspect. He's a fucking maniac far as I'm concerned. Here is his list of less than 10 girls who hate him and insulted or had problems. More like 50 girls. But therea's probably over hundreds. Go look at their threads too!

Alyssia kent,
Lya missy
Simon
Freya Mayer
Elisa Calvi
Liz Rainbow
Lana Rhoades
Timea Bella
Amelia
Kiara Lord
Romy indy
Poopea pons
Zlata Shine
Anastasia ocean
Lara Malvo
Eva Berger
barbara bieber
Alyssa Reece
Ginebra Bellucci
Shay evans
Zazie skymm
Pinky june
Eve Sweet
Yukki Amey
Florane Russell
Katy rose
Serenity haze
Tori dakota
Michelle wild
Marina visconti
Susana melo
Tereza grande
Stella cox
Tina Kay
Luna Rival
Ivy Rein

[ValenciaCF]

It's true what Freya Mayer said about him. This man have dementia or schizophrenia. He change like the chameleon or forgets all the shit he writes about girls ehich is in plain sight for all to see on his forum. How dumb is he

He insults them telling terrible things and then has memory loss asking where he insulted them? Is he joking or what?

Here's what he sadi about Lya Missy. Zero respect ehatsoever, calling them bitches and whores ehenever he wants. Take a look in the mirror you will se who is a real bitch and whore. I'm sure his parents must have been disgusted to raise a hateful, sad, egotitstic, narcissistic, tyrant and dictator like him. He can't be a man and accept a womans decision. He attacks them by being spiteful whem he can't get ehat he desperately wants. He is so sad and embarassing. Amd mayne he should start using tje viagra pills also. He,xs quick to tell about other performers erection problems but this man can't even get his dick hard in his casting. Telling the girl "Oh no I don't want to make it hard" bwahahahaha because he can't get hard that's why. He and his all have erection problems. That's what I'm just always amazed at, that he accuse people of things that he himself is guilty of. He is Delusional!

[Panorama]

Yeah, he seems upset about Lya Valencia! It appears that a liar doesn't like being lied to. But the most interesting thing about this statement said in an obvious narcissistic rage is that Woodman again lets slip his true feelings about women.

"she deserved only an anal destruction that unfortunately I did not gave her !!!"

There you have it people! This is what Pierre Woodman has been doing to women for the last 30 years PUNISHING THEM. I thought sex was only used to give pleasure Pierre?????

No wonder Tania dumped you all those years ago. She probably saw all the lives you were destroying and her conscience couldn't handle it. Good on her I say. Remember this by the way? Was it hot that day or what? And just imagine, now you'll never go back.

[ValenciaCF]

The old fool still insists that Freya lied to him when she told the truth. She absolutely crushed his feelings because she didn't want to shoot with his ugly ass bwahahahaha he's still crying like a baby.

Which part of she doesn't shoot porn doesn't he understand???. The girl stopped porn at professional level and never made anything with any productions so why he's so mad about her OF. It's that simple! What bullshit is he talking that she was not honest.
Someone needs to tell this idiot that her OF is not porn like what he wants with her and even if she told him she was shooting for OF she was not going to shoot a movie with him at production level. She quit! He needs to get over himself!!! And stop making bullshit that she lied. He's worse than a drama queen creating stupid lies to stroke his own ego after she shatterd his dreams of shooting with her!

Or maybe he wants the girl to spell it out for him.
SHE DON'T WANT TO SHOOT WITH AN UGLY OLD GARLIC LIKE YOU! Would it have made you feel better if she said it out loud to you or to your face.. Instead, you are lucky she was nice enough not to embarass you and tell it to your face. She did you a favour by not trying to hurt your feelngs but it seems you got hurt anyways. That's what you get for being a dickhead.You raging because she made an OF video and told you she doesn't do porn...I don't see how that's lying. She told the truth. He wanted to shoot with her and she told him she doesn't shoot for productions anymore. There was no lie. End of story. Her OF is her private life and there was no need to tell him about it. The fact that she stopped mainstream should have given him the message.So why it's affecting him so much if sje was still om OF? It's a lame excuse to try amd attack her. So jealous and hurt he is. he still trying to find a reason to make himself feel better by throwing shade at this girl. It's actually really funny seeing him cry like this beause he wanted Freya so bad and couldn't have her. Grow up!

[poldijk]

Maybe he's sending his alter egos on this forum too because suddenly we have couple of his heroes here glorifying that paedophiles work over here.

First of all, I have to respectfully disagree with you there Valencia. Neither "sumacs" or "poldijk" have said anything that has distracted from this thread.

thanks for supporting us Panorama. I feel a lot of respect in you, despite our differences.
but some people like to hastily identify others as PW heroes...
I'm maybe misunderstood because of my none native english. However, everybody should understand when I said I'm sad about what he became, by highlighting Robin's post talking about PW's dirty method to break girl's reputation.

I think I will go back to english school

(By the way..... I liked the attention to detail in your thread, that's right on my wavelength, I might stop by if I get a chance sometime! )

thanks! you're warmly welcome to give your feedback, Sumacs is suggesting some interesting changes
and...you will make a break with the PW arena

[BlueShadow]

Honestly...I just hope poldijk and others don't reason the way most PW fans/members reason... with this disrupting rape culture.
So I apologize if I have some bias for those who come here to somehow praise him, only psychos can do promotion for this dude now.
and when a girl tells him no, or doesn't agree to work with him I'm glad not because he won't have a first anal...last anal...who fucking cares in the end LOL but glad that the girl won't have anything to do with this toxic man. Thats it.


For me only a psycho can say "I hope she take her punishment to make up for it". Simply rape mentality, nothing more.


And he is a ''fan'' more dangerous if this kind of mentality comes from a producer...
For sure a normal producer say this about a model speaking on a public forum "she deserved only an anal destruction that unfortunately I did not gave her"
We are not talking of a fan, but of a producer to whom they send models (often newbies) for work...LOL But it's how the industry works it's seems. Money and I close an eyes, maybe also two.

[sumacs3]

Just a quick update in case anyone is confused.
I requested to cancel my membership to the PW site, as I have discussed here, but I appear to still be considered a member. I could find no place on the site that offered a simple way to cancel. So I sent a message to the Board Administrator(s), as you have seen the first part of that message in one of my earlier posts here. I will not submit any new posts to that site.

[BlueShadow]

Well, if the person directly involved doesn't say so ... it's speculation about his sexual orientation, but I don't see how being gay can be so ''infamous'' or serious ...
What's infamous about being ''homosexuEl''? Tell me...
Once again he proves who he is himself.

[ValenciaCF]

He is so disgusted by homosexual cuture that he does his utmost best to let it be known on his forum that he is not homosexual , even stopping doing a sexual position he used to do before because he mentioned once that he got too many requests from gay men and it bothered him. He should be happy that gay men are even watching his porn because it brimgs another culture of fans making him popular, but he prefer to cut gay people off because he's so repulsed by them and the image of people thinking he's gay what an idiot. David Perry, maximo etc all cater to homosexual fanbase as well, it doesn't mean they are gay. But PW is so uncomfortable with his sexuality, yet he has no problems getting rimjob amd letting people tickle his asshope like a girl and rubbing his dick with another man when he's doing double vaginal scenes. Clown !

I just LOVE when he cries about not getting awards. It just shows how angry he is everytime, pretending it doesn't bother him. And he says the only reason he don't get awards is because he don't attend bwahahahaha yeah right. What a joke. Many people still get awards when they stay at home or unable to make an event. How come he don't get award?. He loves excuses!

The reason he don't get award is because his shootings are trash. Amateur, rubbish content. He don't even invest in proper lighting or taking care of visuals. Only dark shadows in his hotel rooms, can't see shit lololol. Most his angles there is no visual of penetration. Just an ugly old grandpa with his handcam and his security cam used for recorsing video bwahahahah, complaining it's too expensive to get more cameras to shoot proper porn style. Maybe if you weren't a cheap skate focused on making money only for yourself and fixating the idea that girls are bitches for doing porn because of money. Get over yourself. Who the fuck are you to make jusgement. Look in the mirror. You treat women with utter disrespect and hateful disdain. Treating them like worthless whores for doing their job. A job that YOU manipulate them into doing for you. Asshole!

Go watch Tushy, Vixen, Jacqui Michel, Dorcel, Private, Pormworld, Legalporno, you will see top quality porn with world class visuals. You can tell people about your 8k amd 12k cams and only you did this amd that. Why you bluffing when your recordings aways look so crap it's a joke!
You are simoly not on the same level as other top producers and directors and thats the reason you don't get awards, not because you don't attend! It's a heap of bullshit and you know it.

[ValenciaCF]

Well, if the person directly involved doesn't say so ... it's speculation about his sexual orientation, but I don't see how being gay can be so ''infamous'' or serious ...
What's infamous about being ''homosexuEl''? Tell me...
Once again he proves who he is himself.

It's so blatantly clear for the world to see that he projects his unjust hatred and prejudice of gay people onto others. Homosexuality bothers HIM, not others. Anything about gays he is petrified.

[robin_reid]

Dan Leal has never won the award for best european male performer. As usual, this bitter and cheap hotel room producer spreading lies and trying to discredit other real professionals from this biz.

[Panorama]

thanks for supporting us Panorama. I feel a lot of respect in you, despite our differences. but some people like to hastily identify others as PW heroes...I'm maybe misunderstood because of my none native english. However, everybody should understand when I said I'm sad about what he became, by highlighting Robin's post talking about PW's dirty method to break girl's reputation.
I think I will go back to english school
thanks! you're warmly welcome to give your feedback, Sumacs is suggesting some interesting changes
and...you will make a break with the PW arena

No problem poldijk, I guess at some point or another we were all Woodman heroes one way or another. But like I said to "sumacs" a while ago, you have to understand that the other guy's feelings here are more deeply rooted than ours, Plus everyone is of a different nationality here so wires can get crossed. I'm sure they understand the situation now.
Believe it or not but I'm not a huge forum "fan" so posting to them is another new experience for me, as well as finding out about DAP, DPP, RGS, WGCZ, WX etc, etc, etc. I find it all very very strange, but I've taken a strong dislike to Mr Woodman and all his rotten antics and just decided to try and do something about it. So here I am for the foreseeable future.... or until the powers that be here boot me!
But I will try to pop into your thread, I should at least try to contribute somewhere else instead of taking the p**ss out of Woodman all the time!

Just a quick update in case anyone is confused.
I requested to cancel my membership to the PW site, as I have discussed here, but I appear to still be considered a member. I could find no place on the site that offered a simple way to cancel. So I sent a message to the Board Administrator(s), as you have seen the first part of that message in one of my earlier posts here. I will not submit any new posts to that site.

Don't worry about it sumacs, you have nothing to prove here.
I've talked with a few Woodman members who I haven't managed to convince and I don't hold anything against them it's their free choice and will to support him. I'm pretty sure I'm still a member as I never asked to be removed from his site, but as you can imagine I'd NEVER sign into that place again, but I guess it's a good way for him to make it look like he has a lot of members. I suppose that could be true for visits to his site, he thinks he's got thousands of visits from people and what he doesn't realize is that at least a thousand of those hits are from myself, Blue, and Valencia looking for ammunition!!

Anyway, in other news!

Who do you think she is referring to in the highlighted red box below Pierre??

[robin_reid]

Who do you think she is referring to in the highlighted red box below Pierre??

Lana Rhoades had a traumatic experience in Budapest and had to scape from Woodman, afraid to be raped/abused when she heard him talking about it.

[robin_reid]

The photo of the king of sexual coercion could not be missing from this article

[sumacs3]

Don't worry about it sumacs, you have nothing to prove here.
I've talked with a few Woodman members who I haven't managed to convince and I don't hold anything against them it's their free choice and will to support him.

Thanks, as usual, Panorama.

I just felt that this particular thread is full of emotions, and wished to indicate I am striving to maintain integrity regarding my previous posts. Any perceived breach in integrity could fuel the notion of me being one of the alter ego persons, and thereby diminish or eliminate the value my thoughts here about PW and WM.

I certainly did not like the way he treated the religious friend topic.

[andre_pittet]

Hi, I’m new here and I wanted to thank you all for researching about that Gerbier to expose him (which in French sounds like « gerber » which literally means « to puke »… to puke is what I want to do the more I discover about this waste of air).
Back in the days, I remember watching some of his videos but some things were already shady and felt out of place. There are so many weird things about his website : the fact he chose a spider as a logo, the loud volume for his casting intro, the fact all the thumbnails of the videos of the girls look morbid and ugly for some reason (he managed to make the girls look ugly when irl they’re absolutely perfect), the badly made photoshop of himself with a muscular body, I don’t get why any sane person would feel appealed by the overall aesthetics of the website itself.

As someone posted here, I didn’t think much of the dude at first, I was simply looking for a particular girl’s update which still hasn’t been updated to this day (it’s been 5 years already). I started to read his forum for more info about when it’d be released as PW said bullshit things like «... she enjoyed the treatment to such high level than something incredible happened and I will have to blur it for sure. Woodman’s answer to supplicating naive subscribers : « in may I think » , « I promise next year !». I was dumbfounded by the fact people on his forum were just BEGGING this little sh*tstain in submission like a slave would do to get some leftovers from his master (without daring to upset his greatness) ! I don’t know if people find it normal but I felt like the subscribers were gullible children. Overall, just seeing how PW interacts with his subscribers show the abomination of a man he is. Disrespectful, childish, lying, deceiving, still unable to question himself. He actually reminds me of a pupil I had that constantly needed to denigrate others while highlighting/complimenting himself. Woodman has a serious mental illness, I still don’t understand how he can still be afloat with his less than mediocre website. I hope this criminal will be put behind bars so he can’t harm anyone else, just think for one second that this fat hairy dregs of humanity was a cop, inconceivable !

Please continue the good work guys.

[Panorama]

I certainly did not like the way he treated the religious friend topic.

sumacs I very much doubt Woodman cares about anything to do with religion. (I think he has actually said he is atheist?) Don't forget, if this guy got anywhere near god Woodman would probably ask the big fella what he was doing in his seat!! At some point, something will happen in his life and I'm very confident that Woodman is going to reap what he has sowed. He'll remember my words when it does.

Hi, I’m new here and I wanted to thank you all for researching about that Gerbier to expose him (which in French sounds like « gerber » which literally means « to puke »… to puke is what I want to do the more I discover about this waste of air). Back in the day, I remember watching some of his videos but some things were already shady and felt out of place. There are so many weird things about his website : the fact he chose a spider as a logo, the loud volume for his casting intro, the fact all the thumbnails of the videos of the girls look morbid and ugly for some reason (he managed to make the girls look ugly when irl they’re absolutely perfect), the badly made photoshop of himself with a muscular body, I don’t get why any sane person would feel appealed by the overall aesthetics of the website itself.

ANDRE!! WELCOME!
You, my good man, in that opening paragraph have just put into words everything I feel when I go on that site!! It's so obvious but you see it that often you tend to just ignore it. I know Woodman tells this story of his mother telling him that he had to be a good little spider when he was growing up..... What complete bollocks.... A good little spider is a money spider, or a garden spider.... not a bloody Black Widow! AND.. by the way, the particular Black Widow that he shows is a female . . . So make of that what you will. The superman logo he uses is just more of his own self-glorification and a reflection on how HE sees himself and NOT the reality. If you look at some of the great Pharaohs in history they depicted themselves as masculine and muscular, when in fact they were very slightly built and often had deformities due to chronic in-breeding..... Hummm, a correlation perhaps?
I'm very doubtful about Woodman's **genuine** membership as he has many, many alter-egos (see: self-glorification above) but the ones who are genuine range from people who simply do not know anything about the guy to proper sick little puppies that believe Woodman is "the master" and that he teaches women how to enjoy anal sex. When in actual fact it's GUYS that need teaching how to do it properly in order not to hurt them in the first place!! Work that out.
Whoever the girl is you wanted to see if she hasn't been shown in 5 years you can pretty much count out EVER seeing her, especially if Woodman said "next month" or "next year". That means never in Woodman language. But keep paying your subs just in the hope that it's actually going to happen! Sorry to be such a party pooper but he's a liar what can I say?!!

Anyway, welcome again, and thank you for reminding me about everything that makes ME want to puke going on his website!!

[robin_reid]

Brilliant, Andre Pittet, very accurate description about Gerber/Woodman and his trash website. Great post. Welcome.

[sumacs3]

G*rb*r B*by F**ds - Famous Logo
A resemblance?

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[ValenciaCF]

I certainly did not like the way he treated the religious friend topic.

sumacs I very much doubt Woodman cares about anything to do with religion. (I think he has actually said he is atheist?) Don't forget, if this guy got anywhere near god Woodman would probably ask the big fella what he was doing in his seat!!!!

Yes PW is an atheist and he has said it on his forum. Making argument with people and debating about the creation of the earth as if he was there before the start of humanity.

The funny thing is he still keeps mention" OMG , oh my God "blah blah blah but he's atheist.

[ValenciaCF]

PW speaks of himself as if he is some type of guru and according to him that's why girls are sent to him first. But as already explained, it's only the money he throws at girls and Brillbabes that allows him to be the first. He is not something special. He is an old grandpa with erection problems. Why he need to tell lies when everyone can see he have ego problem! So he need to tell things to boost his own confidence or narcisstic motives.

Now he is finding excuses for being tired and not being able to perform properly ...talk about your own dick issues before others.

And "Baby Kitten" with all due respect and no intention of shaming her when I say this ,but she mentions on her TW profile that she is a "cock whore" her words, something Woodman hates. So why he work with her??? The answer is simple, it's because he gave her a shit ton of money because he really wanted to fuck her ass. And we already know that she is very much interested in money as we're about to see her conversation with premimbukkake. How ironic for Woodman to work with girl interested in money? Here is the proof she is notivated by money(not a problem at all, but for Woodman it's a sin) but he worked with her. Wonder how much he paid her. Maybe not so much because he is guru.

[sumacs3]

I certainly did not like the way he treated the religious friend topic.

sumacs I very much doubt Woodman cares about anything to do with religion. (I think he has actually said he is atheist?) Don't forget, if this guy got anywhere near god Woodman would probably ask the big fella what he was doing in his seat!!!!

Yes PW is an atheist and he has said it on his forum. Making argument with people and debating about the creation of the earth as if he was there before the start of humanity. . . D

Thanks, Valencia. My original question to PW was more about the idea of questioning the "religiousness" of what he called his "religious" friend. I would have thought that the last thing such a "religious" person would want was PW ass-fucking some young woman in that "religious" person's home. That was when I began to have firsthand experience of how honest PW truly was, or wasn't!

[robin_reid]

There are so many weird things about his website : the fact he chose a spider as a logo, the loud volume for his casting intro, the fact all the thumbnails of the videos of the girls look morbid and ugly for some reason (he managed to make the girls look ugly when irl they’re absolutely perfect), the badly made photoshop of himself with a muscular body, I don’t get why any sane person would feel appealed by the overall aesthetics of the website itself.

Another point to consider is the locations he chooses. Ugly rooms with old and ugly furniture that give a sordid and dark touch to his videos. It is useless to have a pretty model with a good make-up (and her make-up artist is good, nobody doubts that) if then the whole atmosphere that surrounds that model is ugly, morbid, with old and ugly furniture, with darkness... A pretty girl always will look more pretty with a nice background and location in general and good lighting. I’m not telling go to shoot in a super villa in Ibiza like Vixen, just choose a little better location for same and even less price than those horrible locations he shoot in Budapest.

[sumacs3]

Another point to consider is the locations he chooses. Ugly rooms with old and ugly furniture that give a sordid and dark touch to his videos. It is useless to have a pretty model with a good make-up (and her make-up artist is good, nobody doubts that) if then the whole atmosphere that surrounds that model is ugly, morbid, with old and ugly furniture, with darkness... A pretty girl always will look more pretty with a nice background and location in general and good lighting. [made bold by sumacs3] I’m not telling go to shoot in a super villa in Ibiza like Vixen, just choose a little better location for same and even less price than those horrible locations he shoot in Budapest.

Thanks, Robin. Those are adjustments that should be possible without a change of his nature required. Just like how most of us prefer sunshine to clouds. I remember that my PW girl Wendy, as Monica at 18onlygirls, had all of her videos at Ibiza filmed in well-lit rooms or in the sunny outdoors.

Wendy as Monica at 18_o_g

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[BlueShadow]

"Not only they lose work but prevent the girls from progression". Good point.
So I guess this point also applies when PW is the one blocking models for other productions? Right, mr JohnWick?

[Panorama]

I've just spotted this rubbish too Blue.

It's not often that Woodman admits to not being popular but here in these two posts either Woodman himself or one of his employees actually complain that he isn't getting the models he claims he is. He was saying only the other day that he has more models than he can possibly see, yet here he complains that only @Brillbabes are sending models to him. (A) Which is it, too many, or too few? and (B) Why do you think that could possibly be Pierre?
Well, like I've said many times before, you're poison, your milk has gone sour, and nobody likes the smell. When are you going to realize that nobody is going to send you their models. The world has moved on and you cannot get away with the disgusting techniques that you once did in the rest of the free world, no agency wants that reputation and stigma of being associated with you. Brillbabes only send you models because they are just as corrupt and as you can see below, just as 3rd class as you. From what I've heard from models I've spoken to it's been THEM leaving Brillbabes, NOT the other way around!!
Again, why do you think that is Pierre??

Brillbabes (if they had any sense) and wanted to get their reputation back would drop you like a warm coat in July buddy. Because average Joe's like me are telling all the models they meet about how Brillbabbes are supporting one of the most deceitful and manipulating people on the internet.

By the way, in case you don't want to go look at the website yourself in first place was JulModels, in second place was Sandy's Models and in LAST place was your BEST agency in Budapest BRILLBABES!!!
Not a very glowing report that is it, Pierre, it's not often that you're right, but you're WRONG again!
**** And before someone on the Woodman forum say's I work for JulModels I DON'T, I don't just believe what Pierre tells me, I go and look for myself, you should try it.****

[poldijk]

Believe it or not but I'm not a huge forum "fan" so posting to them is another new experience for me, as well as finding out about DAP, DPP, RGS, WGCZ, WX etc, etc, etc. I find it all very very strange, but I've taken a strong dislike to Mr Woodman and all his rotten antics and just decided to try and do something about it. So here I am for the foreseeable future.... or until the powers that be here boot me!

I saw your posts are focusing on this thread, but I understand the energy you spend to highlight the dark side of the spider

But I will try to pop into your thread, I should at least try to contribute somewhere else instead of taking the p**ss out of Woodman all the time!

exactly!
please have a look to the rabbit hole, you will not be disappointed

and Sumacs is having some awesome ideas to go further, there is strength in unity!

[poldijk]

There are so many weird things about his website : the fact he chose a spider as a logo, the loud volume for his casting intro, the fact all the thumbnails of the videos of the girls look morbid and ugly for some reason (he managed to make the girls look ugly when irl they’re absolutely perfect)

Salut Andre, bienvenue!

I fully agree, particularly the music of wakeupandfuck is completely stressful

the ugly pictures of the models displayed on the website is a real mystery for me...whereas, as you correctly said, they are so cute! (excepting Rebecca, my avatar, who looks cute whatever the photo )and PW used to be a talented photographer for Private, does not make sense...

i'm not producer myself but when I wish to highlight a model in my thread, I try to choose the most beautiful picture to highlight her beauty

[robin_reid]

It's like if it was done at purpose, models looking ugly. Guys, check the thumb of any pretty girl on any company, no matter who, it can be big brand like Vixen or Dorcel or it can be any small russian company or whoever, then check the thumb of the same model at Woodman’s: looking ugly.

So what’s the finality of to have a good make up artist if then you manage to make the girls looking ugly?

Mistery

[BlueShadow]

Another fake promises







I'll give you an information (judging by the FACT he said in April and still nothing): He don't fucking care!
From April to June you paid 3 months of subscription, keep paying!

[poldijk]

It's like if it was done at purpose, models looking ugly. Guys, check the thumb of any pretty girl on any company, no matter who, it can be big brand like Vixen or Dorcel or it can be any small russian company or whoever, then check the thumb of the same model at Woodman’s: looking ugly.

So what’s the finality of to have a good make up artist if then you manage to make the girls looking ugly?

Mistery

Hi Robin, yes, a real mystery

"It's like if it was done at purpose", I also don't understand, in porn business, the purpose is to attract porn watchers with appealing girl's pictures?

[poldijk]

Another fake promises

it reminds me the stressful waiting for khali Noire's video #4. But Oscar respects his fans, he doesn't give any fancy release date

instead, there is no release date at all, even if it's painful, I prefer Oscar's approach