Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[ValenciaCF]

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Speaking of dumb comment
What about here? When PW says that he was expecting for Ginebra Bellucci a better ''career'' for this ''perfect angel'' (just because she didn't listen to him to not make anal right away for other productions ('cause it's no good for her career) also for LP/AV. The usual ''self serving advice'')?


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But let's see this bad and unprolific career of Ginebra Bellucci:



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And here? PW may not have been rude to say these things on a public forum? (not that it matters what egoman says, as we can see from how many productions Ginebra worked) After he called her perfect ANGEL...the here he says exactly the opposite ahahahah and you give credit to this clown.


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and what about here mr. JDR, since you like to be such a paladin... here PW wasn't rude with these comments about a model?




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and here, with Kitana Lure?


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here with Misha Cross saying she will never be Lana Rhoades etc. (after he bashed also Lana Rhoades btw, this clown )


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and here?? Maybe he was nice to Ivy Rein, bashing her just because she doesn't want to work for him?


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And also here...he was professional making fun of a girl exposing her in this way? And also call her ''Dumb''? C'mon...whats your opinion mr. JDR (aka PW probably)??


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Here instead for sure he wasn't RUDE with Zlata Shine, right? (always because she refused to work there, and certainly Zlata Shine has no problem working with any production in Budapest, Prague, Barcelona... even if she didn't start with anal in the hotel rooms of PW...




So 1-before you talk about rude comments, look at your own house first.
2- that last sentence about "history proves..." you can shove it up your ass, you'll make better use of it. And excuse me for being ''rude''.

Spot on! And I spoke to Simon yesterday and she confirmed that everything PW said about her was false. She was made aware of how he was bad mouthing her on his forum. He never even met her and he goes on his forum and says she has bad teeth and smelly breath and thats the reason she didn't want to do interview. Meanwhile this nice young lady never wanted to work for this ugly, rude bastard. Typical butthurt behavior when he can't handle rejection, even if it's politely told to him, his ego is so fragile he start crying like a bitch and saying nasty things about girls when theu dom't work for him. And then he has the audacity to complain why people don't like him when this is what he does everytime writing shit about girls on his forum and yet when people say he is a bad person he complain how they cam say that without meeting him. So how he can do that to all the girls????? Hypocrite! Same thimg he did with Zlata.She rejected him!!! And not the other way around. Let that be clear. Fucking asshole! Another girl was also made aware of him and what he does and she will not be seeing him again. So PW. We know you watching. You can go to fuck yourself!

[ValenciaCF]

Oops!!! Mew girl Luna Roulette first anal? The stupid fucker even forgot to read the girls TW. So how he did the interview??? First anal he said. Bwahahahajaha yeah right.... when you tell too many lies you get caught up in a other. Maybe he should do his homework next time.

[Panorama]

Now THAT's what members need to see. Pierre Woodman caught blatantly lying. Can't add anything to that Valencia.

[robin_reid]

And her anal scene at Mydirtyhobby looks like better quality. What a liar bastard is this PW.

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Look at the DISGUSTING CONTEMPT on Gerbier's face while stomping on Nataly Gold (https://pornbox.com/application/model/2633)!!
THIS is the real Woodman, ANGRY, DISGUSTED by (in his eyes!) stupid dumb whores without self-respect because they'll do everything for money.
This is the face of somene with a narcissistic personality disorder and misogynist who thinks women are only on this planet as a trophy, to serve/please men, cook for them, clea the house, and who's sole purpose in life is to create offspring with his superior DNA. I wonder what Gerbier would feel (oh, no sorry, a narcissistic prick like him can't have sincere feelings), what he would think if some ugly obese 60 year old disgusting grandpa and a gay boyfriend would stomp on his daughter Alexandra with a like that?!

Guys, this is not the face of a true woman lover....

[BlueShadow]

do they seriously think that this model did her first anal there?



Yes, they seriously think so...

[BlueShadow]

Oops!!! Mew girl Luna Roulette first anal? The stupid fucker even forgot to read the girls TW. So how he did the interview??? First anal he said. Bwahahahajaha yeah right.... when you tell too many lies you get caught up in a other. Maybe he should do his homework next time.

Yes, and also came up with the usual fairy-tale story to serve to members for this staged casting...

But we can say that 1, it is definitely not the first time she does anal , 2, it is not the first time she does it on camera, 3, it will never be the first anal online.
I hope at least she didn't ask too much for this ""first anal"" (or maybe yes, who cares, work is work).
And a lie is a lie. First anal, LOL.

[BlueShadow]

And her anal scene at Mydirtyhobby looks like better quality. What a liar bastard is this PW.

Not hard doing better then a dark hotel room, I must say. At least there you can see something.

[BlueShadow]

spent 10 minutes on the anal system? It couldn't have been easy to open that ""virgin ass""

[robin_reid]

Fabricating stories as usual, this is what his whole life is about

[Panorama]

This image (regardless of whether the female actress is happy to allow two fully grown men to stand on her back) shows the total disregard Woodman has for a woman's safety and health. Not only could they have severely injured this woman, but they could also have paralysed her!! I'm completely astounded that the film standards in Hungary would even allow this!! Porn flick or not. Someone is going to tell me that its nothing special, but I can assure you if they had broken that model's back which they could have EASILY done things would have been very different. Even I know that S&M or whatever you call it has to be done in a safe environment so that nobody is injured. . . . . This was FAR from safe and you should be ashamed of yourself Woodman! And don't try and tell us all safety precautions were carried out because we know you are a liar and this image speaks for itself!!

Now you see "JohanvonR" has this little nagging voice in his head that says what Woodman does with his "good friends" isn't necessarily right, but he doesn't dare push his "master" for proper answers.
The fact is that Viola regrets every second she spent with Woodman, the man who talked her into doing more and more degrading things. She would (if she could) remove every single video of herself that she shot with that shameful creature, as would countless other models. The sensible ones refused to sign the release allowing him to profit from their humiliations.
This brings me conveniently to why he will NOT delete her casting or films she did later. You see Woodman can't show the vast majority of his original castings pre-2017, so he only has the new stuff that he can show. Most of the old stuff is already as good as deleted. Yes, he keeps dangling you those carrots of what "he might show" but you're never going to see them, he can't, he'll be arrested, and/or sued. All those Models who did things so bad that they wouldn't let Woodman show them to the world now have that hanging over their heads FOR LIFE. Many now have kids and live so far away from Woodman's sick little world, but they are still attached to him by what they did.... How would you like that?
He could easily delete Viola's work seeing how she is so upset by it, but you have to remember he has no soul, no consideration for anyone else other than himself. So why should he for one-second worry about Viola's regrets when he can still make a few $$$ with her videos? Please STOP being so naive and listen to that little voice in the back of your head and see Woodman for who he really is.

[rocchardchap]

Look at the DISGUSTING CONTEMPT on Gerbier's face while stomping on Nataly Gold (https://pornbox.com/application/model/2633)!!
THIS is the real Woodman, ANGRY, DISGUSTED by (in his eyes!) stupid dumb whores without self-respect because they'll do everything for money.
This is the face of somene with a narcissistic personality disorder and misogynist who thinks women are only on this planet as a trophy, to serve/please men, cook for them, clea the house, and who's sole purpose in life is to create offspring with his superior DNA. I wonder what Gerbier would feel (oh, no sorry, a narcissistic prick like him can't have sincere feelings), what he would think if some ugly obese 60 year old disgusting grandpa and a gay boyfriend would stomp on his daughter Alexandra with a like that?!

Guys, this is not the face of a true woman lover....

Grandpa's MO is to scout highschools all over Eastern Europe, take creepy pics of young female track and field stars, international footballers approach them and offer the his "scholarship money" to pay for a couple of semesters in college, and reduce them to his toys.

19 year old Jessica here is a prime example of a strong young woman he looks to degrade.

[rocchardchap]

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Grandpa's MO is to scout highschools all over Eastern Europe, take creepy pics of young female track and field stars, international footballers approach them and offer the his "scholarship money" to pay for a couple of semesters in college, and reduce them to his toys.

19 year old Jessica here is a prime example of a strong young woman he looks to degrade.[/quote]

The Painal. poor girl

[Panorama]

So Pierre always likes to fetch out his alter-egos whenever he wants to bad mouth anyone who has upset him lately and he needs to get onto the subject. For some reason that I'm sure the other members here will know, Woodman has been offended by this guy "Devils Kos" and instead of just having it out with him he's decided to bitch on his forum about him using the "haters" excuse as a springboard to do so.

Now you see Pierre, this is why nobody likes you anymore. If you don't like someone don't be a coward like you were at school, have it out with whoever you're peeved with and don't just bitch behind their backs. It would seem that the only people you can intimidate and bully are those 18-19-year-old women, it's not really very courageous of you, is it?

Actually the "main" haters are similar to terrorist in the world, they find a country where they build "training camp" !!!
So we have it in porn, it's the circus with their forum where a bunch of morons try day and night to convince this planet with a lot of lies that I am a bad person and must be destroyed !!!
Of course some people are naive enough to trust that and think I am a devil ...

(1) Actually I'm not even close to being a terrorist, like I've always said I only comment on what I believe is the truth and as you very well know, I always give credit where credit is due.
(2) I haven't had to "find a country" to build a training camp! What planet are you on?? I am 1 person in the free United Kingdom, I haven't had to scurry off to Hungary because I'd be arrested for the crimes of my past life. (Get what I'm saying?)
(3) Nobody has to convince anyone that you are a bad person Pierre, just look at your standing in the industry today. No awards, No invites to shoot anywhere else in the world, AT LEAST 3 countries you cannot travel to, (they are the ones I've heard back from anyway) thousands of refused releases, people making fun of you on other forums "day and night", models who won't work with you because of "issues", your own employees turning against you (even one's you think are "friends") people in some of the hotels you've used, telling horrifying stories about your disgusting little quirks, models MOTHERS who have pleaded with you to remove appalling scenes of you defiling their daughters, models who have told you NO but you just kept on going, models who you tried to make do things they didn't agree to, models who you've insulted and ruined the careers of simply because they said NO, boyfriends who you have looked in the eye and shook hands with then stabbed in the back ....... The list goes on and on and on Pierre.
(4) Every single statement in point (3) was the truth.
(5) Yes I am going to continue "day and night" to try and convince everyone I can that you are a bad man........ Because......
(6) Yes. You are truly "the devil".

[Panorama]

Because he's a liar Maple.

[BlueShadow]

So Pierre always likes to fetch out his alter-egos whenever he wants to bad mouth anyone who has upset him lately and he needs to get onto the subject. For some reason that I'm sure the other members here will know, Woodman has been offended by this guy "Devils Kos" and instead of just having it out with him he's decided to bitch on his forum about him using the "haters" excuse as a springboard to do so.

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Now you see Pierre, this is why nobody likes you anymore. If you don't like someone don't be a coward like you were at school, have it out with whoever you're peeved with and don't just bitch behind their backs. It would seem that the only people you can intimidate and bully are those 18-19-year-old women, it's not really very courageous of you, is it?

Actually the "main" haters are similar to terrorist in the world, they find a country where they build "training camp" !!!
So we have it in porn, it's the circus with their forum where a bunch of morons try day and night to convince this planet with a lot of lies that I am a bad person and must be destroyed !!!
Of course some people are naive enough to trust that and think I am a devil ...

(1) Actually I'm not even close to being a terrorist, like I've always said I only comment on what I believe is the truth and as you very well know, I always give credit where credit is due.
(2) I haven't had to "find a country" to build a training camp! What planet are you on?? I am 1 person in the free United Kingdom, I haven't had to scurry off to Hungary because I'd be arrested for the crimes of my past life. (Get what I'm saying?)
(3) Nobody has to convince anyone that you are a bad person Pierre, just look at your standing in the industry today. No awards, No invites to shoot anywhere else in the world, AT LEAST 3 countries you cannot travel to, (they are the ones I've heard back from anyway) thousands of refused releases, people making fun of you on other forums "day and night", models who won't work with you because of "issues", your own employees turning against you (even one's you think are "friends") people in some of the hotels you've used, telling horrifying stories about your disgusting little quirks, models MOTHERS who have pleaded with you to remove appalling scenes of you defiling their daughters, models who have told you NO but you just kept on going, models who you tried to make do things they didn't agree to, models who you've insulted and ruined the careers of simply because they said NO, boyfriends who you have looked in the eye and shook hands with then stabbed in the back ....... The list goes on and on and on Pierre.
(4) Every single statement in point (3) was the truth.
(5) Yes I am going to continue "day and night" to try and convince everyone I can that you are a bad man........ Because......
(6) Yes. You are truly "the devil".

It made me laugh when he says "with a lot of lies." Personally speaking I simply post what he himself says on his forum, to how bash models, about how he deals with models and agencies. There is nothing to be convinced. I bring to the attention that. Since apparently his members, worse than him at this point, don't even have doubts or question his behaviors.

Like here for instance:


Certainly the agency is the bad one, who after he ''touches'' for the umpteenth time a model working sent there for an interview decides to have nothing more to do with him.


This is a lie? Not mine, he says so, maybe he should be careful what he says before complaining that others want to show him as a producer of, let's say, dubious morality and professionality.
And can someone explain to me what the heck "all girls was brainwashed in order to push me not insist about anal sex and finally just do an interview" means.

And by the way shouldn't it be normal that when a model goes to a shoot, the producer should not INSIST on making her do something she doesn't want to do (and everything has to be agreed upon before they go to the shoot)? I mean, in professional productions... and in a safe working environment of course...
That is, an agency does their job... (what others should be doing as well, but instead they are more interested in the extra fees...) to warn girls that there is a psychopathic producer who will try in every way to manipulate them into doing more...but they are the bad ones...what kind of world does he live in?

[robin_reid]

Smart decision from JM to stop sending models to this psycho and women abuser.

[BlueShadow]

and now that he found out that she had already done anal and the scene is even online, now it has become ''her first anal without pain''... that clown, always wants to be right, no matter what, also becoming ridiculous.

[BlueShadow]

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Because he's a liar Maple.

They don't understand that those ones are the most staged...

[BlueShadow]

and btw obvious ''without pain''...when was the last time he had an erection?
It doesn't happen often...so much so that he even made a tweet to show how ''happy'' he was to have a full erection (which lasted as usual 1 minute if it's ok) as if it was an event, and actually it is...
He make me laugh so much for how ridiculous he is.

And when he tells the girls: wait I don't want to get too hard...well, it wouldn't happen anyway even after 10 minutes of blowjob.
Have a nice week everyone. LOL

[sumacs3]

Because he's a liar Maple.

They don't understand that those ones are the most staged...

OK, maybe, but if so, how can you tell which are the most staged?
Kind of like saying, "I have forgotten so much."
How do you remember how much you forgot?

I agree with PW that Wendy is a "pure fucker" and "crazy for sex."
My own expression is that she is often "lost in sex."
She has made about 50 videos, and they cut the video when she gets "too" lost.
Examples include the firstanalquest one where she is up against a wall and reaches back with her hands and seems "lost." Another is the Teeny Threesomes one where she gets "into" the pillow and her actions interfere with proper filming. She is great!
It is important to have a significant database and look for patterns of behavior.
She also has a pretty lean athletic physique and such girls are commonly loaded with T.

Thanks -- from Maple, of course!

[Panorama]

Sorry Sumacs, the intention wasn't to expose you, it was to show you the character you so admire isn't worthy of your admiration. I think his reply today just about proves that. You put your point across perfectly, I understood it and so did Woodman. But rather than speak to you like someone who is easily his equal, he decided to give you a sermon on his beliefs and an education about the crucifix. . . . Which was NOT what you were asking him about. Then like the true narcissist, he is he doubles back the question onto you and tried to make YOU feel like the bad one.

That's the man you admire I'm afraid sumacs. Wendy, if she is as special as you say (and I don't doubt) she would have become that woman with or without Pierre Woodman, he accomplished NOTHING with this young woman other than having sex with her and filming it while she didn't know. Which I may add for most women is emotional rape. (hence the many, many none signed releases) And just to answer your question about how you can tell which Woodman castings are fake. You can pretty much be assured that in most castings after 2017 the models know that he is filming them. In the west it's now illegal to film anyone without consent, ALL of his pre-2017 films were done this way but after he was caught in the U.S. violating both Serenity Haze and Lana Rhodes he has had to change tactics. By the way that's also why he only works out of Hungary now because he can still get away with a lot of things, he wouldn't in the west. That's also why you'll notice all his updates are models from 2017 onwards because all those castings are mainly fake (i.e. The model is told to act as if the camera isn't there.) So in a way, Woodman is a creep in two ways because he lied and deceived models up to 2017 by filming them in secret, and he's lying now to his members by making them think that they are going to see all those older castings and that all his castings today are still spontaneous when they aren't.
Hope that goes some way into helping convince you to leave that despicable man's sphere of influence sumacs.

This brings me conveniently onto giving you and other Woodman members another reason to leave his forum. There are too many replies in this particular forum thread for me to show them all so if you want to see Woodman in full Woodman mode, go look at his "Simon" thread.
Here one of his members is telling him he is clearly and obviously WRONG about disrespecting a model, but it makes no sense to him and does not budge one little once! And here I'll give him credit where credit is due..... When he's wrong you know for a fact he's going to stay wrong and not think about the other sensible possibilities....Maybe that's not creditable in a good way, but it's there nonetheless.

By the way "MicheleM" you are heading for an early bath my friend, Woodman won't tolerate much more honesty coming from a member.

[ValenciaCF]

About Luna Roulette, it was comical how he deleted those tweets after realizing it was not her first anal. He then reposted "first anal without pain" what kind of shithead does this and makes such dumb comment...total disrespect for whoever fucked her ass before him. Who exactly does he think he is? He has got some nerve.

Now the Simon and Freya Mayers threads are really interesting there is alot of drama happening there. But more importantly I recently texted after finding out what was happening there and this is what she thinks about Woodman... as usual he got pissed because he couldn't get her ass. Goes on his forum and starts to be the keyboard warrior and cry like a baby. 'micheleM' makes a good comment about Woodman being heartbroken and having ego. It obviously got under his skin and he kept sending messages to try play it cool but we know how angry he is inside he even admitted he wanted to get Freya fir a project but she didn't want no part of it lolololol Woodman got his heart broken .

Imagine first telling his members on the forum that Freya told him he's not in her plans and she explained him her intentions for the future and he respected her wishes... but if he respected it then why did he still try a 2nd time to get her. The firsr time she declimed it wasn't enough. So he got humiliatrs twice and his ego was bruised so he decided to put that conversation he kept about her. You can see here that he pretends that he accepts this and all is cool, but inside he is raging and 1 year later he posts it Which proves his ass is still burning from being turned away.

Oh and her tweet is even better...

[Panorama]

Well Valencia, I don't think I've ever seen Woodman shut down to the point he had simply no answer. This reply by "MicheleM" gets my complete and utter respect. It was succinct and to the point. Everything she/he (sorry if it's the French name) said was so precise, that Woodman simply couldn't reply to it and fell to his default position of blaming them for obviously coming from here!! Well, if they were from here I for one would be proud to stand with them!

It's amazing how much time he spends editing yet the members get to see so little?? A man with Woodman's money could easily afford someone professional to do the editing for him (They'd actually do a better job!) so I'd have to assume that yet again he is lying as it's obvious he has all day to complain and argue with members on his forum.
So as a Woodman member, you have to ask yourself. If he isn't editing, what the hell is he doing?? He claims to be seeing girls almost day and night, yet you don't get to see any. How many new girls did you see last month for your 35 euros?? It's only going to get worse as Pierre (very unprofessionally) continues to bad mouth models and generally cause trouble across the industry. You all claim to love them, yet the man you are supporting is ACTIVELY driving them away from the industry!!
As the man said, you have eyes, you also have the power to go elsewhere. Support the many models who Woodman has violated, lied to, and schemed against, and do just that!

[robin_reid]

It's amazing how much time he spends editing yet the members get to see so little?? A man with Woodman's money could easily afford someone professional to do the editing for him (They'd actually do a better job!) so I'd have to assume that yet again he is lying as it's obvious he has all day to complain and argue with members on his forum.
So as a Woodman member, you have to ask yourself. If he isn't editing, what the hell is he doing?? He claims to be seeing girls almost day and night, yet you don't get to see any. How many new girls did you see last month for your 35 euros?? It's only going to get worse as Pierre (very unprofessionally) continues to bad mouth models and generally cause trouble across the industry. You all claim to love them, yet the man you are supporting is ACTIVELY driving them away from the industry!!
As the man said, you have eyes, you also have the power to go elsewhere. Support the many models who Woodman has violated, lied to, and schemed against, and do just that!

Of course he does not allow anyone to edit his videos because of the horrible and embarrassing things he says and does to the girls, sometimes probably even illegal things that he has to remove or edit in his own way… He makes sure that only himself can watch and touch this raw content.

[BlueShadow]

So Pierre always likes to fetch out his alter-egos whenever he wants to bad mouth anyone who has upset him lately and he needs to get onto the subject. For some reason that I'm sure the other members here will know, Woodman has been offended by this guy "Devils Kos" and instead of just having it out with him he's decided to bitch on his forum about him using the "haters" excuse as a springboard to do so.

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Now you see Pierre, this is why nobody likes you anymore. If you don't like someone don't be a coward like you were at school, have it out with whoever you're peeved with and don't just bitch behind their backs. It would seem that the only people you can intimidate and bully are those 18-19-year-old women, it's not really very courageous of you, is it?

and insulted him on the forum just from hearsay, soem people reported him ...then it wasn't him judging people only once face to face...ah yeah, it's only when it's convenient for him, to manipulate girls, clown.

[ValenciaCF]

and insulted him on the forum just from hearsay, soem people reported him ...then it wasn't him judging people only once face to face...ah yeah, it's only when it's convenient for him, to manipulate girls, clown.[/quote]
The funny thing here is that he does this all the time as he has done with other girls and recently Freya and Simon, talking shit without facts, just spreading total bullshit because hos ego can't handle it as Freya mentioned, and he has the audacity to tell people speak bad about him. What a clown he is. Is he just ignorant and stupid or what. Or he only listens to whatever garbage he blabbers from his own mouth. He really has dementia I think

[ValenciaCF]

What PW doesn't understand is that it's Him who shoots himself in the foot everytime. He does it himself and make himself look stupid. The more he blabbers about girls on his forum, the more power he gives to girls, because they are telling their friends about this ape shit and more and more girls want to stay away from him. So it's actually a good thing. He can pretend all he wants that he don't say nad things. He must be really stupid if he can write all that shit and not remember what's there on his forum which he wrote himself. He still doesn't know why people hate him. He is a comedian there's something seriously mentally wromg with this man if he thinks he can say all that shit and get away with it but he wants to accuse others. Seriously??? Brainless idiot.

[poldijk]

I will give my modest input as a french guy following PW since the 90's

i'm aware this thread is dedicated to PW slippage or even abuse/lies, I will not discuss all evident proof that Panorama is showing, but at least you have respect for Sumacs

I think there is 2 persons in PW's head, an aesthete and a huge pervert, Sumacs and I are focusing on the first one

I fully agree with this:

In conclusion, using Wendy Muller as the evidence, and answering the question of whether he breaks the will of girls, I say in her case he really wasn't, and gave her the time of her life. I also have no less respect for either of the participants because of their activities. Bravo to both!
Again, ironically, we could say, "Then he is a liar, because he did not break Wendy's will."
He is no hero to me. He is in no way my idol. But . . .
A not-so-great man can sometimes do great things.
Let's enjoy those things.

I also have a lot of memorable casting I wish to keep, first of them is Rebecca (my avatar) because she is so cute and the casting was epic.
when I have a look to her thread here, I can only see respect for Rebecca (who is writting to her fans 10y later!).
I'm just furious about the crappy sex scene with tripod camera following the interview, a total waste for this cutie who did only Private formatted stuffs (excepting "superfucker 18" where Pierre is spending time on her mesmerizing eyes and wonderful tits)

if some of you understand french, all the little words he said during interviews are very useful to understand the aesthete side of PW:
in Rebecca's interview (or Wendy's one), he is behaving like a gentleman, saying randomly, in french, "she has fine feature face, beautiful tits, cute little apricot pussy..)
he is not behaving like a bastard saying:she is fucking good, I want to break her ass...
"Rebecca/bts hard sofa 3" is a good example since all males are french, surrounding Rebecca, they speak french together and I feel a respectful atmosphere
for the girl

the pervert side of PW is after the interview, the sex scene is really vulgar, saying "sale chienne"/"dirty female dog" every 30seconds...

during the 90's, I didn't feel he was so narcissistic, working for PRIVATE, doing wonderful pictures of tanned cuties (but too much make up)
I have no idea why he became like this, until creating a topic about "I love my haters"... being proud and advertise about "she did her first anal with me" is ok but drooping into lies or breaking girl's reputation is sad as Robin is explaining here:

Is wellknow that Woodman sometimes send the videos to the home and the school of the models (check Timea Bella history) He do it as a revenge or to try to keep the scenes of certains models as exclusives by causing they quit porn because of the trouble it cause with family. And this disgusting action can cause even the suicide of the affected model.

i'm also a porn collector and I understand the Sumacs' columbo logic

I thought I was the only "Columbo of Porn" in my worldwide webquest to collect hard-to-find older DVDs of favorite models. But with all of these interesting posts, it looks like there are actually quite a few "Columbo's of Porn" out there! Thanks.

I have watched a lot of porn, and even collect DVDs of favorite stars, the way some guys used to collect baseball cards

on the one hand, I'm sad about what Pierre is becoming, on the other hand, I can't forget those cuties, all anal friendly, I feel like beauty+anal is becoming very rare today...

Sumacs, (and everybody!) come to the kingdom of heaven to share your columbo's findings, the Unofficial Aesthete Society officially opened

[Panorama]

Hi Poldijk!
That was one very thought-provoking post. I can have nothing other than respect for sumacs because I completely understand how he feels about Wendy. I too love women and I have a very narrow selection of models that I really do like and admire. Up until two years ago, I (unlike yourself) had never even heard of Pierre Woodman, it wasn't until I researched my favourite model that I found out that one of her modelling jobs consisted of going to see this Pierre Woodman. After joining his site I wanted to know why the sex scene he so boastfully talked about in his forum was never shown. That lead me into finding out far more about this man than I wanted or indeed should have found out. I learned that there are so many models out there who could have had incredible careers, some who actually DID have incredible careers, but once they visited Woodman they, and their "hard" castings simply disappeared.

That is what has always really pushed my buttons with Woodman. He had the opportunity to be great. As you say, he was a good photographer and did some great things. But what people don't really think about maybe because they enjoy his "castings" so much is the fact that yes these women had great sex with him, but everything he told them leading up to their experience was a lie. A lot of things he did with some of the models (including telling them they were not being filmed) are today illegal. But what they also do not realize when they support Woodman is that it's not only possible to rape someone physically, but it's very possible to rape them emotionally also. Physical scars heal over time, but emotional, and psychological ones don't. Some of these young women have performed degrading acts believing that what they were doing either for pleasure or for money was secret, never to be seen. I don't suppose you have ever been in that situation, I know I luckily haven't. Now imagine that this man tells you he filmed EVERYTHING. What do you do? How do you feel? Yes, you can refuse to sign his little piece of paper, but that video is still there shot without your knowledge or permission. (Viola Baileys casting - "It will be just you, me no camera")
I hate to see bad people getting away with bad things. I especially hate to see bad people getting away with bad things when they take advantage of people who are not as sly and deceitful as them. I hate knowing that Woodman has movies that could ruin women's entire lives, women that now have husbands, and children. He might have had to "clean up" his technique, but we're still seeing the poison that this old man constantly sprays onto his forum.
And the best thing is, that nobody in the adult industry is doing anything to seriously get rid of him.

So yes, although I wish I could love the scenes that both you and sumacs love on Woodman's site. The inner hater of bad people just won't let me. That's why I have to keep puking out all this garbage because I have to do SOMETHING. Woodman is right, his existence bothers me far more than my existence bothers him. But the fact that everything I write here might change somebody's mind about supporting him keeps me going. Knowing that I have helped at least 5 models not make the same mistake others have keeps me going. One day Woodman will reap the whirlwind of everything bad he has done, and he'll remember that little flea on the spider's back that just wouldn't stop bitting.

(By the way..... I liked the attention to detail in your thread, that's right on my wavelength, I might stop by if I get a chance sometime! )

[BlueShadow]

And for a reason! Or maybe your umblemished hero was nice with her on his forum? (maybe yes, he always right )
What idiots...

[BlueShadow]

Maaalvo?? He still thinking about Lara Malvo... . Yes, you are hopeless.

[BlueShadow]

[quote="poldijk"]
At least @poldijk confirm that he lives in the past, and what he do now it's shit. (sometimes also literally).

[BlueShadow]

Because he's a liar Maple.

They don't understand that those ones are the most staged...

OK, maybe, but if so, how can you tell which are the most staged?
Kind of like saying, "I have forgotten so much."
How do you remember how much you forgot?

I agree with PW that Wendy is a "pure fucker" and "crazy for sex."
My own expression is that she is often "lost in sex."
She has made about 50 videos, and they cut the video when she gets "too" lost.
Examples include the firstanalquest one where she is up against a wall and reaches back with her hands and seems "lost." Another is the Teeny Threesomes one where she gets "into" the pillow and her actions interfere with proper filming. She is great!
It is important to have a significant database and look for patterns of behavior.
She also has a pretty lean athletic physique and such girls are commonly loaded with T.

Thanks -- from Maple, of course!

Then precisely, look at the patterns of behavior, only a blind does not notice when Wendy looks at the camera. She knows very well that she is on camera.
And when I talk about ''staged'' I'm talking about the little stories he makes up...about girls who are there for something else, but then they get into hardcore, not about the sex itself...those are RAW scenes, of course they are free and without too much script.
Certainly PW did not discover anything with that model, a ''pure fucker'' etc. and she knew very well why she was there.

PS
and I point out that you are talking about stuff from the early 2000s, that says it all. That's the past.

Only fools nowadays can believe all the fairy tale he tell today. Of girls who are not there for the money.
The only thing that is real is his unprofessional behavior with agencies (things he says himself, I always remember), his homophobia, his pro-Putin propaganda, and when he feels the need to bash girls who say no, bash the competitors...and then play the victim when they speak bad of him. Or lecture others.

If you have something to say about this, welcome, otherwise there is little point in continuing to talk about Wendy Muller and the past.

[BlueShadow]

and as usual when it comes to PW's champions who come here...I never read them responding to posts where we post the ''questionable'' things PW says, when he bash girls, when he says anything about competitors...Dean Leal, Rocco...Disciples of Desire...thread left open for days then closed, when he spoked bad about an actor...Devil Kos... except to then say he was wrong and that he spoke from hearsay...(but when are the others speak bad of him for hearsay it's no good...but as always he do the same of what he criticize (always!) Prove me wrong. When he makes homophobic comments (and stupid ones too, like when he said that showing two men kissing is istigation to become gay LOL, also here, prove me wrong that he never said that), when tell lies etc. seriously have no opinion about it, or maybe they doesn't care...even that says it all, they are worse than him.
But yes, let's speak about Wendy Muller and Rebecca from 20 years ago. LOL

[BlueShadow]

why didn't you talk instead about Ruby Sims, who said that when she went there she wasn't in a good mental health, but that didn't stop PW from putting psychological pressure on her along with the assistant, in doing something that she didn't really want to do and now regret what she did there... meanwhile he makes money off of that?
But yes, let's talk about Wendy Muller... I understand...

[BlueShadow]

Then they say, here we want to make PW look bad... (with things that HIMSELF write...but ok...)
So if the good actions are more than the bad ones... It will not be hard... Tell me something good that PW has done without then expecting and receiving personal benefits (like when he redid the teeth of some naive young girls...sure a gift done from the heart LOL) or bragging about it (like when he donating 1000$ for KT's funeral or say that he was the only one near Kai Taylor supporting him... to say one). That guy brag about even when he does shady things ...like when he regretted that he wasn't more sneaky with an agency c''mon...

[BlueShadow]

..let's see...ah yes, my ''favorite'' good actions of PW...here sums up the subject at hand in full.

When in one post he makes fun of the agency (now agency that works with him...but we'll postpone this topic until next time XD the world is full of idiots who would stoop on anything for a some bucks) and mocks and exposes a girl (girl who will have parents, family, etc.) also calling her dumb.
And he also brag about that.
Yes, surely I, as an intelligent person, can call PW a good guy...sure...

[sumacs3]

Hi Everyone.
Sorry I have not replied, as I recently unsubscribed, but it looks like I should have stayed and addressed the charges against me! Thank you for all of your new input.

Anyway, I have tendered my resignation from his site, where I have been a free member.
I have not received a reply yet, but it was just yesterday when I gave notice.

Here is the first part of my request.

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I would like to add some organized thoughts but for now I am just offering this brief post.
I agree that PW dodged the issue about the religious friend, and in a questionably disrespectful way.
Firsthand experience helps!

Thanks as always.

[ValenciaCF]

Notice how PW said he doesn't watch this forum but was quoting things from this forum onto his forum lololol... So he's not watching? Yeah right. He watches day and night clearly bothered by what goes on here bevause he can't help himself. Maybe he's sending his alter egos on this forum too because suddenly we have couple of his heroes here glorifying that paedophiles work over here.