legalporno as we knew it is officialy DEAD

[xxxtentionn]

The thing with the attractivity of the girls ....it always lies in the eye of the beholder.

But I also have to admit that I don't like the LP product any more. And this is also due to the girls. Many seem very, very thin and used up. Others seem very cheesy and trashy. Generally the whole product looks very cheap and amateurish.

Yhea they need to stop putting amish girls on the site, website is heading in wrong direction.
Quality >> Quantity.

[Jocke]

Im fascinated with this studio "Kinky Sex". We see a new scene from them almost every day. But there is absolutely no way in hell that anyone are buying them.
How is this even possible? Is Joachim shooting them just for fun and is gladly paying everything out of his own pocket?
The studio seems to be just as immune to the laws of supply and demand as it is to good taste.

They started to release in March this year and have already puked out 155 fucking scenes!?! What is going on? Who is responsible for this?

Old material from the shelf?

[hjohjole]

Old material from the shelf?

Yeah.. im thinking maybe it should have stayed on the shelf. Maybe it was sitting there collecting dust for a good reason.

[Sweep11]

If LP is not dead it may be in a coma.
Tonight’s offering is very poor (for my tastes at least).
No Giorgio scene, no gonzo, no N&F.
Just a bunch of overpriced amateurs, 1 on 1 or Kinky Studio.
We’ll see whether it wakes up or time to turn off the ventilator.
Sad times

[JDOUN]

If LP is not dead it may be in a coma.
No Giorgio scene, no gonzo, no N&F.
Just a bunch of overpriced amateurs, 1 on 1 or Kinky Studio.
We’ll see whether it wakes up or time to turn off the ventilator.
Sad times

Not to mention they keep bringing KimberLee on for the trans pee scenes and she doesn't even drink any piss, just sits on the side while the girl does everything.

[netzerkaiser]

If LP is not dead it may be in a coma.
Tonight’s offering is very poor (for my tastes at least).
No Giorgio scene, no gonzo, no N&F.
Just a bunch of overpriced amateurs, 1 on 1 or Kinky Studio.
We’ll see whether it wakes up or time to turn off the ventilator.
Sad times

The way things are, who's gonna come up with something new every day? Its impossible pressure & the attempt to live up to it should only be met with total admiration. How about a once a week update? No-one could complain about that, not least what one reads of the cost of producing scenes & the MASSIVE loss to fileshare etc when they do come out. Maybe LP should say, "well to hell with the lot of yeh, we'll do just a weekly update". You can't complain then & they're still miles ahead of the rest. Thy're doing their best & they're doing it bloody damned well, IMHO.

[Sweep11]

Fair comment. I was too harsh with last nights assessment. It came from disappointment over the past few days and weeks of finding no scenes that got me excited.

Tonight’s offering is much better - Paola schoolgirl scene was an instant buy.

I have always been a vocal supporter of LP/Anal vids in the past and for sure I support the effort they put in, especially during these difficult times.
But they set the bar very high so when they fall short for an extended period (in my view/for my tastes), it’s hard to take.

[netzerkaiser]

Fair comment. I was too harsh with last nights assessment. It came from disappointment over the past few days and weeks of finding no scenes that got me excited.

Tonight’s offering is much better - Paola schoolgirl scene was an instant buy.

I have always been a vocal supporter of LP/Anal vids in the past and for sure I support the effort they put in, especially during these difficult times.
But they set the bar very high so when they fall short for an extended period (in my view/for my tastes), it’s hard to take.

Fair play to you Brother.

[TheVulture]

"Chemistry" is an over-used buzz word when people discuss porn but what I don't understand is why it doesn't even seem possible to buy porn these days where the participants aren't engaged in a kind of one-sided (ie male-driven) combat. The latest Veronica Leal scene with Potro is a classic case in point. He fucks her really well but it's so obvious how desperate he is to grab her arm and twist it across her back at every turn and consequently how keen she is to keep her arm away from his reach once she realises this. And during the course of admittedly some very good and hard sex he really relishes the chance to physically overpower her with his hands. I just don't understand this antagonism within what is meant to be passionate sex (with or without "chemistry", which is hard to attain and not really essential). Does Potro hate Veronica? Or himself maybe? Or both? Do viewers genuinely like that stuff? Are they thinking "Go on Potro - twist her arm again! Yeah!" Or like me do they tolerate it or even try to pretend it didn't happen whilst looking for segments without that stuff? (something I'm increasingly unwilling to do).

Never mind chemistry, I just want to see hard sex scenes where the performers aren't fighting each other both physically and mentally and where the director's intention is to make the girl appear as sexy, lustful and attractive as possible rather than have her twisted and pulled all over the place. Is that too much to ask? How on Earth did porn find itself in this ultra-aggressive, entirely male driven place? I think it's very sad personally. Of course there's a place for aggressive porn but it has just consumed everything before it. LP clearly isn't dead but I would say its heat content - always a little lacking - has completely hit the floor and there's no justification in blaming Covid, high performer fees or anything external and uncontrollable for this. It's an entirely deliberate choice.

[MRA95]

If LP is not dead it may be in a coma.
No Giorgio scene, no gonzo, no N&F.
Just a bunch of overpriced amateurs, 1 on 1 or Kinky Studio.
We’ll see whether it wakes up or time to turn off the ventilator.
Sad times

Not to mention they keep bringing KimberLee on for the trans pee scenes and she doesn't even drink any piss, just sits on the side while the girl does everything.

they need to do a cross promotion with immoral live or bring porno dan as a director he has a tendency to listen to his fans and has a well known reputation.

[netzerkaiser]

Chemistry" is an over-used buzz word when people discuss porn but what I don't understand is why it doesn't even seem possible to buy porn these days where the participants aren't engaged in a kind of one-sided (ie male-driven) combat. The latest Veronica Leal scene with Potro is a classic case in point. He fucks her really well but it's so obvious how desperate he is to grab her arm and twist it across her back at every turn and consequently how keen she is to keep her arm away from his reach once she realises this. And during the course of admittedly some very good and hard sex he really relishes the chance to physically overpower her with his hands. I just don't understand this antagonism within what is meant to be passionate sex (with or without "chemistry", which is hard to attain and not really essential). Does Potro hate Veronica? Or himself maybe? Or both? Do viewers genuinely like that stuff? Are they thinking "Go on Potro - twist her arm again! Yeah!" Or like me do they tolerate it or even try to pretend it didn't happen whilst looking for segments without that stuff? (something I'm increasingly unwilling to do).

Never mind chemistry, I just want to see hard sex scenes where the performers aren't fighting each other both physically and mentally and where the director's intention is to make the girl appear as sexy, lustful and attractive as possible rather than have her twisted and pulled all over the place. Is that too much to ask? How on Earth did porn find itself in this ultra-aggressive, entirely male driven place? I think it's very sad personally. Of course there's a place for aggressive porn but it has just consumed everything before it. LP clearly isn't dead but I would say its heat content - always a little lacking - has completely hit the floor and there's no justification in blaming Covid, high performer fees or anything external and uncontrollable for this. It's an entirely deliberate choice.



They're really gonna need like buttons on here because this is genius. + he cares for models wellbeing.

[TheVulture]

They're really gonna need like buttons on here because this is genius. + he cares for models wellbeing.

Ah that's very kind sir/madam. Tbh I'm not really crusading on the part of the girls (although there is a small element of that) as I'm well aware that they pretty much know what they're signing up for. I have a hunch (impossible to prove, obviously) that most of them probably find the action a little more degrading, humiliating and physically demanding than they might like (and that it really needs to be) but then they presumably have influence over the nature of the scenes (Rebecca Sharon is one who seems not to get much rough stuff so I suspect she may ask for it to be limited - if so, more power to her) and clearly I will agree that some porn girls (although not most I wouldn't think) do genuinely like that rough stuff and want their arms pulling and twisting, throat grabbed and face slapped. The others probably just treat that stuff in the same way we all treat stuff we don't like in our jobs. Rough with the smooth and that. What a shame though if that is the case when there is really no need - quite literally - for the rough and when the whole purpose of porn is to create arousing material. If the girls are not 100% relaxed and on board then for me the directors are not doing their jobs (although I'm not sure they see it that way).

For me the problem is simply that so little modern porn (and not just LP, although it is a prime culprit) looks sexy and the main reason is the overwhelming male dominance it seems to aim for. That's a fairly new place for porn, whatever anyone else here says. That's really the long and the short of it for me.

I realise I look like a hypocrite in this thread because I spoke of cancelling and then mentioned this Veronica Leal scene but I had a few spare tickets left post-cancellation and spent them on that scene. I've decided I'm gonna try to take a break from porn (2 months minimum I think) and then come back to the usual haunts to see if anyone has done a Justin Timberlake and brought the sexy back. I have my doubts though. But I'm determined not to be duped by LP trailers that show great girls and action whilst concealing the large chunks of annoying male aggression and ego that basically turn me off. That's the challenge and one I haven't risen to previously, I will admit, although I must say that I can barely even muster the enthusiasm to look at a trailer of late so it's proving easy enough for now.

[prendezs]

The worst is when you cant enjoy the video because the bitch is screaming at the top her lungs through out the scene.  You gonna lose a lot of potential customers who are curious about how good it might feel to really get assertive and dominate with a female.  Especially if they were raised to be gentlemen and have to let go of some guilt trips and shame to really get into objectifying a whore and using her holes for their true purpose, taking multiple cocks.  It can take guys a while to learn that these women actually like it or dont mind it as long as thier paid enough.  Not gonna happen when emily acts like a slut and screams like sour puss.

[prendezs]

Porn is a business and their is a limit to the income you will get from the sales and subscriptions of the type LP likes to make.   Its good their bringing on more independent studios to help with cash flow.  You're gonna have to offer more to keep the quality and excitment of showcasing a young sexy female slut who graduallly works up to the 12 man, every hole filled gangbang, cum in every one of her holes. Or give some incentive.  Most of your talent is out of country so you dont have to offer any benefits but its a thought.  The more you give the more you get.  There is no shortage of sexy sluts.  BangBros can attest to that. 

Otherwise you have to pay less for older, less sexy, or a non bio female with a vaginoplasty to splice in.  They take all the cock, ass only because its constructed to look like a pussy, not take dick like one. 

The audience begins to notice these things.  Especially if shes not naked through out the entire scene.  An article of clothing conveniently around the midrift seperating the bottom half of the body from the top

[prendezs]

The multiple guys on a female is def a niche audience.  Lets be honest you have to be comfortable seeing other guys naked and occasionally glimpsing their hard cocks.  It doesnt make you gay, but def a degree of bi.  I enjoy watching a female whore take as many cocks as she can handle and adding my thick dick to her holes as well.  It takes another level to be part of the DP and actually feel your cock rubbing against another mans cock in her holes.  Ive been to lots of in person gangbangs where the woman is down to take two dicks at once and Im one of the few or only guys that actually steps up to giver her what she wants.  For most men its fun to watch, but you really half to be bi to get give her a dp thats balls deep and rough. How to get the best young sexy sluts?
They run out once your sales are done or the novelty runs out

Maybe sell them on a investments with regular dividends or payouts. Get a good financial adviser to make sure its pays off, The more scenes she does the larger her principal. Royalties won't work. Just a suggestion. I like to offer ideas not just evaluation

[netzerkaiser]

Ah that's very kind sir/madam.

No, I mean it. I've seen too many horrible posts on this site... "I want to see this bitch spit-roasted alive" almost. Horrible horrible stuff, by either freaks or total losers. The girls have feelings, deserve to be treated with dignity. No one knows another persons true circumstances.

[leroygreek]

What's up today with no new scenes for 6th yet displayed? They're usually up for me in the early evening of the previous day.
I already agree in general that quality for both the actual scenes and woman/women "stars" of them is down, understand the situation with pandemic
complicates things but obviously cost of scenes has gone up greatly while quality is down which is not a particularly good business model for LP to be
following imho.

[bigmikeluv888]

this is my first ever post here after being a member since 2015 and legalporno has never been worse then it is now, it's almost unrecognizable from the glory days of 2016-2018 and just one look on the homepage is enough to show any old OG legalporno fan how much the site has decreased. who agrees or disagrees and why? let me know in the comments

Totally agree with you.

[Jocke]

There are some positive and negative changes over time.

Some of the best scenes are still Piss My Ass Off, PMAO.
The reason is that they are extremely nasty but it is not men subjecting women to the nastiness, the nastiness is explored mutually by the male and female participants. Men piss on women but women piss on men. Girls do eat creampies but men lick girls asses.
I like that the scenes are not rough, but sometimes there could be a little more energy. On the other hand I hate frantic fucking. It is not about going through the motions as fast and hard as possible. As a viewer I feel sometimes now that I would want to use slow motion to capture the action.

A thing that has improved I think is the increasing amount of wet scenes. I seldom watch porn without anal. Why not fuck her ass if you are fucking? I am about to only watch wet (with anal of course). Why not piss if you anyhow are fucking?

Unfortunately we have fewer multi girl scenes. I don't mind if there is more than one guy but it really isn't necessary, however if there is only one girl a lot interesting action will be missing. I think there is a very interesting effect when you have several girls. I especially like them in a row showing their gapes while one guy fuck them one by one.

I would also like to see three girls in a row standing with spread arses pissing on the floor!

[zigzg009]

I think there are some good points being made in this thread. I've been with LP since 2015 and have been very much on/off but always seem to come back. I think I'm leaning towards leaving permanently (or at least trying to ha ha ha) just now though as I just find the content way too male dominant.

For me porn has always been about a peek inside the Pandora's Box of female lust and exhibitionism and for about 20-odd years I've managed to get that fix, albeit with diminishing returns. Sadly LP has veered a long way from that style and is really much more about male entitlement with the girls really no more than cannon fodder (cock fodder?) and way too much emphasis on male physical domination with acts that I totally don't understand like wrestling, throat-grabbing, slapping etc. and which ruin too many scenes for me. I think LP as a business takes the view that if they include stuff like that then it will attract the fairly large group of male consumers who like it and those who don't (like me) will buy it anyway because of the girls and sex content. I suppose I'm living proof that they're correct in that assumption, although there is a limit and ultimately I can't keep buying scenes with guys like Angelo Godshack and Neeo, whose sole purpose in life seems to be to douse the heat of girls in their scenes. It just doesn't do it for me.

Ironically the stable I like best at the moment is Giorgio's Lab, which does of course have a certain male physical aggression at its core. At least their guys tend not to have too much ego though and the girls they use do seem to be into it. It's not exactly to my tastes but there is a certain primal intensity to it that I like and is definitely missing from the other stables, Giorgio's main one in particular.

Someone in this thread said that LP is the best of a bad bunch and that's certainly the way I see it (and have for quite a while). For sure, I do love the LP "straight-to-anal" ethos and for all their faults they're still able to attract incredibly hot and adventurous girls to perform extreme anal sex. Contrast this with the rest of the porn world, where those things are less apparent and there is all of the same male aggression and ego I hate as standard anyway (mainly because there is a fairly small pool of male actors worldwide who cross-pollinate the stables and I guess said aggression and ego has also just become a part of the male porn actor make-up since about 2010).

We'll see what happens but for sure I am not feeling the LP (or porn in general) love of 5+ years ago. I desperately want to see the girls smoking from the screen again and the guys just concentrating on fucking hard and fast without ego but have a strong hunch that this style of porn is long since over.

Couldn't have said it better. The sad truth is that there are a few paying customers who raise good points that fall on deaf ears. LP has their business model and will stick to it. That is fair however, the approach and implied message leans toward a take it or leave it attitude. Changes are not explained, at least for the sake of those who buy to patronize, most points are ignored with no comments from LP, and when there are comments they are usually defensive and dismissive. Just as we can choose to leave, we can also choose to stay and staying doesn't mean not being able to chime in for a site that drew many in over the years because if its uniqueness. Some have been here longer than folks spend in jobs these days.

COVID brought its challenges that all can relate to. I am not in the industry and cannot lay claim to knowing all the dynamics. In my small brain, quality over quantity during these times is worth consideration. Now, even the ‘studios’ pages is more crowded than ever. It appears partnerships have been tapped into to keep the releases going. Some have been good but, if trailers are all we have to go by, many have been mediocre to say the least. Perhaps I am ill-informed to believe partner studios have stronger material. The old GG, First Gape and No rest scenes remain my go tos. They are simple, solid, and intense in most cases.

Looking forward to better times ahead including seeing how LP evolves.

[Elodie]

I think there are some good points being made in this thread. I've been with LP since 2015 and have been very much on/off but always seem to come back. I think I'm leaning towards leaving permanently (or at least trying to ha ha ha) just now though as I just find the content way too male dominant.

For me porn has always been about a peek inside the Pandora's Box of female lust and exhibitionism and for about 20-odd years I've managed to get that fix, albeit with diminishing returns. Sadly LP has veered a long way from that style and is really much more about male entitlement with the girls really no more than cannon fodder (cock fodder?) and way too much emphasis on male physical domination with acts that I totally don't understand like wrestling, throat-grabbing, slapping etc. and which ruin too many scenes for me. I think LP as a business takes the view that if they include stuff like that then it will attract the fairly large group of male consumers who like it and those who don't (like me) will buy it anyway because of the girls and sex content. I suppose I'm living proof that they're correct in that assumption, although there is a limit and ultimately I can't keep buying scenes with guys like Angelo Godshack and Neeo, whose sole purpose in life seems to be to douse the heat of girls in their scenes. It just doesn't do it for me.

Ironically the stable I like best at the moment is Giorgio's Lab, which does of course have a certain male physical aggression at its core. At least their guys tend not to have too much ego though and the girls they use do seem to be into it. It's not exactly to my tastes but there is a certain primal intensity to it that I like and is definitely missing from the other stables, Giorgio's main one in particular.

Someone in this thread said that LP is the best of a bad bunch and that's certainly the way I see it (and have for quite a while). For sure, I do love the LP "straight-to-anal" ethos and for all their faults they're still able to attract incredibly hot and adventurous girls to perform extreme anal sex. Contrast this with the rest of the porn world, where those things are less apparent and there is all of the same male aggression and ego I hate as standard anyway (mainly because there is a fairly small pool of male actors worldwide who cross-pollinate the stables and I guess said aggression and ego has also just become a part of the male porn actor make-up since about 2010).

We'll see what happens but for sure I am not feeling the LP (or porn in general) love of 5+ years ago. I desperately want to see the girls smoking from the screen again and the guys just concentrating on fucking hard and fast without ego but have a strong hunch that this style of porn is long since over.

Couldn't have said it better. The sad truth is that there are a few paying customers who raise good points that fall on deaf ears. LP has their business model and will stick to it. That is fair however, the approach and implied message leans toward a take it or leave it attitude. Changes are not explained, at least for the sake of those who buy to patronize, most points are ignored with no comments from LP, and when there are comments they are usually defensive and dismissive. Just as we can choose to leave, we can also choose to stay and staying doesn't mean not being able to chime in for a site that drew many in over the years because if its uniqueness. Some have been here longer than folks spend in jobs these days.

COVID brought its challenges that all can relate to. I am not in the industry and cannot lay claim to knowing all the dynamics. In my small brain, quality over quantity during these times is worth consideration. Now, even the ‘studios’ pages is more crowded than ever. It appears partnerships have been tapped into to keep the releases going. Some have been good but, if trailers are all we have to go by, many have been mediocre to say the least. Perhaps I am ill-informed to believe partner studios have stronger material. The old GG, First Gape and No rest scenes remain my go tos. They are simple, solid, and intense in most cases.

Looking forward to better times ahead including seeing how LP evolves.

We already CAN see how LP evolves.

[luvs2_wank]

Looking at the post by ZigZag009 - I agree with his sentiments too.

It almost feels like two sites in one now.

There is an audience where it's about hard anal & group sex, be it one girl and lots of guys, two girls and two or more guys or any other iteration of this.

There also a (maybe more fragmented audience, but as a combined whole, a large one) that likes the exteme acts, TAP, prolapse, pissing, TS gangbangs and now vomiting which seems to have taken pride of place on the 13th September updates.

My cards on the table, I like DP, i can live with DAP but would like DP to feature as well as DAP (I don't see why it needs to be an either/or) multi girl scenes, I don't mind prolapse. I like multi girl scenes as you can have extra acts, ATOGM, ass licking, cum swapping, anal creampie to other girls mouth - all of which had vanished even pre COVID.

I don't like, TAP, TS, piss, manhandle or vomiting.

The site isn't dead, I'd bet XXX has increased income to show for the policy of including more extreme sex acts in the sites updates.

But it does feel like every scene is trying to play to all audiences but in effect isn't pleasing anyone.

TAP and prolapse are seen as circus anal acts, TAP attracting criticism for 'tipfucking' prolapse dividing opinion given its an injury.

TS - always going to divide opinion, Gay/not gay etc. There is rumoured to be a TS on 1 girl gangbang, that may switch opinions, Im open minded to it and would like to see before reaching a conclusion on it.

Manhandling isn't proving popular with those who just want the guys to be stunt cocks and nothing else.

Non Piss fans don't like the plethora of piss scenes.

Pissing fans don't like the fact the piss is only in the mouth, they want it on the body or the hair but cant have it as the edits need to look ok for non-piss. They also don't like that a girl drinking and spilling some of the contents of a bowl of piss isn't good enough.

I expect we will soon have vomit fans complaining there aren't enough 'chunks' in the vomit or that the girls don't drink the vomit or don't vomit on each other etc etc.

Maybe more people would be happier if their worlds didn't collide, say Legalporno.com and Legalpornoexteme.com (21sextury had this setup).

Maybe there should be greater synchronisation of updates, e.g 3 studios could release a pissing IR TAP gangbang in one night but 3 updates the following night there is no IR, TAP, piss gangbang; this is something that causes discord. Maybe each studio should have released over 3 days, that way a piss fan gets their update every night and the non-piss feels represented too as something else comes out in its place.

Would also say the fans of non-extreme content would probably be happier if the edited versions of scenes had a greater price differential than currently seen. As piss should should be expensive (it's a very taboo act) the non-piss fan will feel they shouldn't have to pay for it.

So many things to consider but ultimately if the money rolls in, the site's owners will follow the money.

[netzerkaiser]

One more thing. Do not grab both girls arms and put your leg on your back to try and make it look like it's rough.

I agree. Its almost like you think one would like it done to those sad bastards & see how they feel. They must be so full of hate. And you can sense despite all the 'pussy' they're being fed through, theres probably no real peace or happiness in their lives.

[Elodie]

One more thing. Do not grab both girls arms and put your leg on your back to try and make it look like it's rough . I like rough sex but that for sure isn't something that I would recall being 'rough' but rather something that annoys me and something that I also skip.

Agree.

[SimplyStunning]

^I thought I was the only one that said WTF when I saw this maneuver. I'm glad I'm not the only one. This is that bullshit rabbit hole that LP keeps going deeper and deeper into. I guess the choking got to tame for them.

LP Studios officially down the DISGUSTING rabbit hole:

✅ Spitting
✅ Pissing
✅ Prolapse
✅ Puking
? SCAT

all that is missing is SCAT but the year is not over. I'm starting to feel uncomfortable requesting beautiful women to be filmed by LP Studios. It was fun seeing incredibly beautiful women doing sex acts that you couldn't imagine them doing like Anal, DP, DAP, DPP, Airtight, TP, TAP and the skills to do a Airplane position but I guess that wasn't enough for the LP Studios. I guess for the right price you can get women to do anything as evident by the 0% Pussy obsession.

[TheVulture]

Manhandling isn't proving popular with those who just want the guys to be stunt cocks and nothing else.

Good post generally but that bit stands out as being a little reductionist. I certainly don't want my porn guys to just be "stunt cocks". I'm happy for them to show their personalities and get involved on a wider level than just the sex action. My only requirement is that where they do this (which they certainly should) it needs to be positive and enthusiastic as opposed to negative and angry. The only LP guys that I think really manage this are Ian Scott and Erik Everhard and with them it's probably because they came into porn a long time ago so have managed to retain that old porn guy ethos, whereas the younger guys are more post-2010 and thus have been schooled according to a sub-Rocco Siffredi porn thuggery curriculum. The younger LP guys are really well hung and tremendous sex performers but for me just negate all of that with their negative and often even hateful on screen auras. For sure, if those guys just became "stunt cocks" that would be addition by subtraction but I'd much rather they found a way to portray a genuine enjoyment about what they're doing.

[TheVulture]

Glad to see that others don't like the weird foot-in-back-with-arms-pulled thing and the biceps around the throat. Those are so bizarre and just appear so stilted, like tick box mechanisms. Again they are in pretty much every scene, as is the arm twist behind the back in doggy. I fast-forward these bits but the fact that they're there in the first place is a problem. You can't "unsee" them and they set the tone for a uniformly aggressive, male-dominant tone that effectively douses the girl's heat. Not for me.

[luvs2_wank]

Manhandling isn't proving popular with those who just want the guys to be stunt cocks and nothing else.

Good post generally but that bit stands out as being a little reductionist. I certainly don't want my porn guys to just be "stunt cocks". I'm happy for them to show their personalities and get involved on a wider level than just the sex action. My only requirement is that where they do this (which they certainly should) it needs to be positive and enthusiastic as opposed to negative and angry. The only LP guys that I think really manage this are Ian Scott and Erik Everhard and with them it's probably because they came into porn a long time ago so have managed to retain that old porn guy ethos, whereas the younger guys are more post-2010 and thus have been schooled according to a sub-Rocco Siffredi porn thuggery curriculum. The younger LP guys are really well hung and tremendous sex performers but for me just negate all of that with their negative and often even hateful on screen auras. For sure, if those guys just became "stunt cocks" that would be addition by subtraction but I'd much rather they found a way to portray a genuine enjoyment about what they're doing.

I'll be honest, what you have said is what i intended.

[Jocke]

I don't like rough or evil stuff. I cannot understand why anyone think being in a torture chamber is sexy. I can understand dominance and submission though, even if it doesn't turn me on.

A slap on the butt is ok but constant slapping through the scene is just boring.

Pulling arms back on the girls is not sexy.

Putting a male foot in someones mouth is not sexy. If it were the opposite, a guy worshipping cute girl feet I would understand better.

Spitting can be sexy if it is a bit of drooling but a guy clearing throat to get a slimy spitball is disgusting.

[TheVulture]

And you can sense despite all the 'pussy' they're being fed through, theres probably no real peace or happiness in their lives.

Ha! That's pretty savage but I do think you hit on a good point there. The maxim "you can have too much of a good thing" is undoubtedly true and I think porn generally has probably found itself in quite a bad place vis a vis the guys it uses. You look around all of the porn stables (LP, 21 Sextury, Private, Evil Angel etc.) and by and large it's the same pool of guys and in most cases these guys have been doing it for well over 10 years (and in the case of someone like Steve Holmes it's more like 20+ years). That's very much a new place for porn as during the "golden age" of the late 90s and early 00s (I use that term with a bit of caution as it was when I started watching porn so maybe there is a little rose-tinted vibe there) the guys were generally newer to porn and kind of developing along with the product. To that extent you can imagine that for the duration of a few years during that era the guys would find the sex genuinely incredible so it's no surprise that this positive energy transferred to the screen (as it undoubtedly did - the likes of Leslie Taylor and Richard Lengin for example always seemed to perform like it was the first and last sex they would ever have and always with maximum respect for the girls and a seeming desire to maximise the girls' heat levels).

Fast forward to today's incredible porn saturation (do these guys film scenes like every day?) and I can well imagine that with such uber-production the guys are probably well past the point where "normal" sex (by porn standards) excites them by about 6 months in the industry and thus they perhaps need to grab at girl's throats and twist their arms etc. just to get a hard-on. To that extent I can sympathise with the guys a little, although not with the producers as this issue should be hard-wired into their production methods (eg rotate the guys, allow them time off, enforce a little time away from porn to reboot sexual energy where needed etc.) But clearly such over-work - if left unaddressed - will inevitably create a vibe of "entitlement" amongst the male performers so again we shouldn't be surprised that rather than giving off a "kid in a candy shop" kind of aura the modern guys instead have a fairly unpleasant arrogant/predatory vibe about them.

I think ultimately the buck stops with people like Giorgio, Luis, Joachim etc. because it's their choice to keep using the same guys time and time again and seemingly to encourage rather than rein in these arrogant/predatory performance traits (less so with Joachim where these aren't quite so apparent but there is certainly a routine kind of lethargy on show). I guess cost will be a factor - it presumably takes time to develop new male talent and producers will generally take the safe option of using reliable stars who they at least know will deliver the positions and be able to perform for the duration of a scene regardless of what heat level or aura they bring. As I said in an earlier post, I suspect porn is now at a point where this is pretty much hard-wired and nigh on impossible to reverse. That's a great shame and certainly to the detriment of the product, more so when now we see girls who are much more adventurous and capable of performing very hard sex than during that "golden age" (where you were lucky if a scene had more than 10 minutes of anal action). But if someone were to come along who would combine the positive male energy of that era with the harder material of the modern day I can't help but think this would be the greatest porn of all time. Whether it would sell is of course another matter. I know that I would buy pretty much every scene but perhaps the likes of us in this thread are outliers and really all the porn "masses" want is harder, dirtier and more unpleasant than before with no limits as to how angry and physically dominant the guys can be. It certainly seems that way when reading this forum but hope springs eternal.

[TheVulture]

I realise there is actually a little hypocrisy in my last few points as I praised Erik Everhard and Ian Scott for their positive auras and linked this to their porn longevity, whilst then suggesting that such longevity leads to an arrogance and nastiness. To some extent then it seems likely that much of this arrogance and nastiness must come from a stud's own personality/frame of mind but I would say that Everhard and Scott are pretty much the exceptions that prove the rule (nice guys in a nasty industry or whatever) and also maybe learned their initial habits during a better and more relaxed porn era, these habits having stayed with them and helped form a kind of defence against the more brutish later style.

[Lotto]

Putting a male foot in someones mouth is not sexy. If it were the opposite, a guy worshipping cute girl feet I would understand better.

But that's exactly dominance and submission. Just because for you (and me as well) worshipping cute girl feet is a pleasant view and girl worshipping male feet looks gross, it doesn't mean the latter is "evil" thing. I suppose many would call piss drinking or DAP "evil", but they are not evil for you. All these things seem really subjective.

[muffmanx]

I personally think this is, hopefully, a temporary side effect of pandemic has put on the industry. If you look around, a lot of studio has a significantly drop in quantity and quality on both terms. Gangbang and groupsex is a big theme on this website and many of the talents are from all over the world, so it is unavoidably that the studio simply cannot organize the same shoots as before during the pandemic without putting everyone at risk.

To regain the revenue, i think it is only natural the business transition to other sources of revenue to stay afloat. To be frank, if you don't like what you see, you dont have to watch it. Vote with your money and time and things will improve when the world is back on its feet again.

[filthyk9pissslut]

You are free to join other wet movie making sites, if there's any... This is the only site that produce good wet movies, don't forget. Don't kill the goose guys, support

[RUShersgapersrises]

Remember Kira Thorns FIRST INTRO scene was with Isabella and 10 black guys; and she was sucking 10 loads out of isabellas prolapse on her FIRST scene.

Sometimes there is a some glimpse, but the overall situation is very bad if we imagine how much something similar would cost today,

If I check the library, my impression is, that in the past there were much more stunning actresses from Russia, Ukraine, Czech, Hungary, Romania, etc. Almost every scene had a beautiful woman with a perfect shaped body and pretty face. The sex act was more passionate, lustful and intense. The emotions more authentic and natural - in great 2/3/4on1 scenes and with DAP with girls who were comfortable with it. The camera work was excellent with perfect camera angles and the focus in the girls body Without changing the view every 10 seconds. The fucking moments lasted longer and had more energy, you could see more than 1 min. how a big cock is constantly ramming balls-deep a woman‘s ass.

Today, my impression changed. Over the time, more actresses with „average“ bodies joined, some fat and unattractive. Tip-fucking became standard. 10on1 scenes became popular, but maybe wasting money for 10 guys is indeed better than hire max 3 guys and a better woman instead... I don’t know... A lot of scenes create the impression that only DAP or TAP, just the fact that 2 or 3 chocks are in the ass is important, no matter of tip fucking, how passionate the act is, or if he moment last long or not...

I know that LP is a business and try to be more profitable with focusing the interests of the majority. But for me it is very hard to accept the fact, that a DAP/TAP scene with tip-fucking and an obvious uncomfortable/unhappy woman‘s face sells more than a great filmed 1on1 or DP (2on1/3on1) with a woman who is constantly comfortable and shows it with her emotions. Plus: More hot stunning woman would do that.

To make an example:

I would prefer 10 more scenes with Florane Russel or Lita Phoenix (without DAP/TAP, but with passionate ballsdeep-fucking, hot bodies, beautiful faces, expressions that the girls really enjoy it)
than 500 scenes with 10on1 DAP/TAP/PISS with models like Kizzy Six or Nilla Black...

I have registered more comparisons regarding appearance of girls.If I focus exclusively on this, its probably one of the biggest differences of this site - before - and today.Otherwise a perfect summary with which most of the older members will agree (those who are left here).

Yes, this is the big lie I was talking about. As Joseph Goebbels has said, "If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, people will eventually come to believe it."

The poor can be persuaded to vote against their own interests, when they come to believe the big lies spread around and constantly repeated by the rich through the mainstream media that they own and control.

That's why we have only an appearance of the majority being in control, rather than the real thing.

And it works like this in porn too, even more explicitly than in the rest of society. Porn caters to people who pay the most for porn, rather than to the majority. And unlike the rest of society, porn doesn't even try to hide this.

+1
It's a matrix or gold cage for the wealthier.The backdrops changes but the basic direction remains.Cracks can be observed in recent months and years even more than before ...

[zeusanalfreak299]

I have registered more comparisons regarding appearance of girls.If I focus exclusively on this, its probably one of the biggest differences of this site - before - and today.Otherwise a perfect summary with which most of the older members will agree (those who are left here).

To be honest, I think I belong to the 1%. Because 99% seem to be extremely happy compared to me. They like the development. The scenes I mentioned are selling great. The aspects I wrote about are not relevant. And now... People spend over 10 TKT even for amateur scenes, filmed with the first smartphone without any lightning equipment.... *Huge facepalm*

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I have registered more comparisons regarding appearance of girls.If I focus exclusively on this, its probably one of the biggest differences of this site - before - and today.Otherwise a perfect summary with which most of the older members will agree (those who are left here).

To be honest, I think I belong to the 1%. Because 99% seem to be extremely happy compared to me. They like the development. The scenes I mentioned are selling great. The aspects I wrote about are not relevant. And now... People spend over 10 TKT even for amateur scenes, filmed with the first smartphone without any lightning equipment.... *Huge facepalm*

I would not quite say 99% of LPAV customers are happy. But certainly, I would state that the majority e.g. 50.1% plus are very happy (of which I am certainly one of the happy customers).

Scenes are getting a correction in pricing. I am keeping my comments and personal views on that matter mute for now. I think it is still only the big, or bigger studios who are selling more. Those amateur scenes that you speak of, I do not think they sell anywhere near as much as the big studios.

[Patrick.Moran]

There have been several really good classic 100% heavy dap and a few dpp also that I really enjoyed but it has down slowed significantly vs. mania glory days (2016-2019) basically pre pandemic go figure. It was just for me a non-stop week to week avalanche of hot girls both western and eastern in must see epic dap gangbang scenes

I have been a consumer for a couple of decades now and I do hope this isn't tail end or twilight of 100% dap era.. well what a time it was for quite a few years if that's the case

[RUShersgapersrises]

I think this 99 and 1% comparison isnt meant literally and I rank also rather to this 1%.Looking for some logic or rational somewhere today is unnecessary and on site like this already at all.The one who searching for "real things" which were a few years back,have it difficult today.The aspects that you write arent irrelevant,on the contrary, are very determining.And I would add more and that is a variation of members.Former spectrum just isn't here anymore or very rarely or doesnt manifest itself, and this will make an 99/1 impression.And the jumpin price rising has an more catalyst effect.The fetishes which I prefer have sufficient popularity here but for reasons unknown to me, are quite lagging behind.There are still often good ones but not with such attractive girls as before, so there is "iether or" situation: supporting maximally despite the high prices those few or totally resign.At the same time you can't be sure, thanks extreme instability of models,youll ever see something another...I dont want much whining or criticized here bcs that's no reason why I finally joined but when I see valuable post,i feel the need to react bcs there arent many like that.

PS:Zeus,what do you think about that LP is today a transfer station to lets say "another sphere" (for girls)?

[PauloPornFan]

I agree too, but this also has to do with the pandemic that delayed everything, and especially with the departure of the best stars from the site such as:
Arwen Gold - there will never be another like it
Ria Sunn - one of the most beautiful of all time
Alysa Gap - best open hole ever seen
Monika Wild - gone, I don't know where she's been
Selvaggia - gone too
Sarah Bell - Amazing Anal, Also Not Appearing
Linda Sweet - one of the tops ever, anal queen
Timea Bella - Missing Our Princess
Anna Rey - Another Missing Goddess
Lola Taylor - I love this beautiful actress
Nikki Hill - speechless for your beauty

And the list goes on, many have retired, others no longer record for LP, as in the case of the incredible Stacy Bloom for reasons I don't know. Other special actresses have arrived, but some have not appeared like Natasha Teen, Polly Petrova... Anyway, I think valuing the stars we love is very important, I hope they keep Anna de Ville, Verônica Leal, Emily Pink, NiciXDream and others that we still have for a long time.