LP studio Fairness in passing on investments to users

[dap-addict]

I am quite worried about this and hope he gets back to his schedule as he gave us some nice DP models last year .

Not sure is this is the correct topic , but I think this needs to be talked about somewhere .

Well, generally it seems some studios try to cut costs by employing less studs to fuck the girls. This lowers investment and thus risk of course. Downside could be that risk goes actually up by exactly such decisions because product can't be sold. I know no studio which can survive on 1on1 here only.
I think it might depend on amount of money they have ready to invest. If its very little than producing cheaper scenes might be tempting, but if the have a bit of money left I would think investing double, but get DP/DAP shot should sell them more items much easier.
We'd have to hear Oscar and also PAF on this because they mentioned such cuts, Both studios also have curiously released very little videos recently.

Btw, I think this sort of belongs here yes, because also 1on1 is investment which has to be passed on to end user ideally in a fair and transparent way. I mentioned already 1on1 price differences @ AGO today in an earlier post. AGO 1on1 I see as an example of apparently pretty fair investment passing on in TKT price.
This said generally my impression is that 1on1 are overpriced with most studios compared with mini-gangbangs (up to 5on1), lest at Mambo Perv, actually.

[Giorgio Grandi]

I asked and I got a reply. Done with this.

Actually one last thing. I apologize if I come across as rude, angry and unreasonable. I'm at a shitty time in my life, and am acting out sometimes, and I could have been more tactful in some instances for sure.

That said, it is clear that we will never see eye to eye on this, so there's no point in me bringing it up again. I will have to take the loss.

Your apologie are totally inappropriate. You did nothing to apologize for
I have a lot of empathy for you (plural) and I would like you (singular) to totally understand the point and the details.
I am not really discussing stuff with members but really, I would like to have a chat with you in private.
Text me on [spam]: @xfreaxx

[Giorgio Grandi]

The other similar topic has been closed and there were some preoccupying posts from Oscar Batty about waiting with further shooting Dp/DAP until the situation is more clear for his studio and other silmilar studios .
I am quite worried about this and hope he gets back to his schedule as he gave us some nice DP models last year .

Not sure is this is the correct topic , but I think this needs to be talked about somewhere .

2 cents
Oscar is a very good performer and I think he is also a very smart entrepreneur (porn wise).
He will tune what he think needs to be tuned and he will made it, you do not need to worry about it at all.

[Starrio]

Well, it is nice to see studios starting to shake things up. Like back in the day we had outdoor videos that were more interesting, similar to Porn World that has a lot of variety, so it is a good thing to see producers investing in that, specially because anal is one of those niches that doesn't get this treatment anymore.

GIO used to do it before where he would go and pick up a girl coming from Ukraine at the bus station, and then bring her to the studio. That variety was lost for a while, so it is good to see directors doing some of those things for a change.

Having different scenes in the same video makes a more compelling watch too, and anal rarely gets that, so congrats on producers for starting to embrace that again.

I particularly enjoyed this Gonzo scene with Kristy where she is getting fucked outdoors:



It makes me hopeful we'll see her in a swimming pool scene, or in an outdoor shower scene as well, and other hotties too. You know, things that make you feel the anal scene is still strong.

[dap-addict]

Well, it is nice to see studios starting to shake things up. (...) I particularly enjoyed this Gonzo scene with Kristy where she is getting fucked outdoors:

Nor sure this belongs here, actually. But sure is an outdoor scene like this needs at least 1-2 guards to shy away public interference and these ppl have to get payed. So such an open wood outdoor scene means more investment to pass on ideally fairly to the end user.
Its not that expensive, though. But you also may add more hours of post production because of outdoor light effects to get corrected.

[Starrio]

And the cost of the scene was fair, so the investment in making it is highly appreciated.

[dap-addict]

And the cost of the scene was fair

Lets better put it like this: It was a nice price.
Now was it fair is at this very moment difficult to judge. Gonzo obviously tries to apply xxx suggestion to lowe prices in $$ as to lower TKT prices. This is nice for users ofc, but might be a test phase only to sound the market. Because given prices in $ were fair before lower prices asked now must be compensated with much higher number of items sold to make this work out fine for the studio. Or they have massive cash left to sort of subsidize scenes sold under fairly passed on investment prices. Or they have shot all these before April 11th and calculated with old prices.

[cumdump]

EDIT

Now you ask me: : "Giorgio why didnt you increase your price before?"
My answer: "because I didnt want to change the price in USD, but I considered the price in tkt too low from last year. So the change on conversion just solved my dilemma as I needed to increase the prices because of increasing of cost"

This is answer most people are looking for!

[dap-addict]

No, because it was clear pretty much from the beginning that nothing would be done.

You say so, but I think you should nothing leave untried.
One option I still see is simply write to support using the ways given directly on PB site and explain again situation with dates of 250TKT recharge and the sudden $-to-tkt conversion change. In my experience support is really working fine with ticket issues and support staff is really trying to help you.

Basically what would solve your issue at this moment would be to receive about 85 premium tickets for free, right?

[YumYum74]

I asked and I got a reply. Done with this.

Actually one last thing. I apologize if I come across as rude, angry and unreasonable. I'm at a shitty time in my life, and am acting out sometimes, and I could have been more tactful in some instances for sure.

That said, it is clear that we will never see eye to eye on this, so there's no point in me bringing it up again. I will have to take the loss.

Your apologie are totally inappropriate. You did nothing to apologize for
I have a lot of empathy for you (plural) and I would like you (singular) to totally understand the point and the details.
I am not really discussing stuff with members but really, I would like to have a chat with you in private.
Text me on [spam]: @xfreaxx

PB sent

[Totonno]

Guys in my opinion the real problem and some good solutions are here ... Read and reflect more
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=42571

[magizi87]

I think it would be better if scenes were all valued at a flat rate.

for example, four dollars. OR WHATEVER makes sense.

And at the same time, scenes that production cost was high,
should be advertised before release.

ANd I think your goal should be to decrease the barrier of entry,
meaning as you scale production up, lower prices.

In the music industry, it became easier to pay ten dollars a month,
via spotify or similar, than pirating music. So a lot more people started paying
whereas before they wouldn't have

Brazzers, offers their monthly service at a higher price,
but a the same time, offer a "deal" to pay in advance for a year at 60-70% price reduction.

All business do this, example, the price difference between a small and big soda
is almost neligible, so that people always go for the big soda.
Eventhough you almost always don't drink the whole thing.

Just as in porn websites like Brazzers, you don't have time or will to watch all scenes available.
EVENTHOUGH you could.

I think in the pornbox is the same, but is presented in a way
via the tkt, that makes us feel punished for not being rich and be not able to watch everything.
In a reality where we would never ever watch even 10% of the content pumped daily.

I think you need to figure out a way to know, which studios drwans in the most wallets,
and distribute the wealth that way, and build a monetary system that
realizes that most poeple are not even willing to spend money on porn and therefore,
it should be as cheap as possible, like the music industry did,
and not saying is a perfect system, but it's worth a try IMO.

[Totonno]

However all this is impressive, it is absurd that many criticize the problems that Russia is creating and then many studies do the exact same things of blackmail supremacy and no one approves of a collaboration to increase productivity as PAFstudio says I know them personally and have supported them for a long time And they have balls and intelligence and they think in big...why the studio don't make collaboration? Because the Greed and Supremacy and even more important most of all...i tolked with their in Naples and I know to much and who are the studios and people What a blackmail and tray to sabotage the other studios... And who pay this problem? Us fans and performers

[avanfurwet]

As you scale up you can reduce costs and prices which INCREASES barriers to entry for new players.
Factories outcompete small family workshops. Supermarket chains put small family retail stores out of business. etc.

If you want customers to be able to sign up for a cheap subscription like spotify, then studios here can already offer "all you can eat buffet" subscriptions, if they want to. Some of them already do. Other surfers may prefer the "pick and mix" option to buy individual scenes from different studios at individual prices, as now.

Regarding allegations of sabotage and blackmail by established studios to suppress newer competitors. There is a lot of noise being posted, but lacking detail or credible evidence to inform opinions, and maybe this forum is not the place to air any dirty laundry generated between studios?

[Totonno]

As you scale up you can reduce costs and prices which INCREASES barriers to entry for new players.
Factories outcompete small family workshops. Supermarket chains put small family retail stores out of business. etc.

If you want customers to be able to sign up for a cheap subscription like spotify, then studios here can already offer "all you can eat buffet" subscriptions, if they want to. Some of them already do. Other surfers may prefer the "pick and mix" option to buy individual scenes from different studios at individual prices, as now.

Regarding allegations of sabotage and blackmail by established studios to suppress newer competitors. There is a lot of noise being posted, but lacking detail or credible evidence to inform opinions, and maybe this forum is not the place to air any dirty laundry generated between studios?

I have read many messages and I have a lot of real information... Would you really like the major culprits to come to light? The intent of PAFstudio is not this but is to stop the problem but I give you a tip ... Have you ever wondered why Oscar Batty, Jack23, Angelo since they started producing have no longer worked for Giorgio and N&F? Why don't you ask some actors and actresses why they don't work for others and if they do what happens... ask these studies what happens To their actors or actresses if they go to work for others studios or open a new studio lol
PAFstudio want put finish at all this stupid mind and let gain all studios and all performers for make more work and promoting the business...i will support they also because I read and I lissened all problems

[dap-addict]

let gain all studios and all performers for make more work and promoting the business...

Well for the girls it would sure be good to have more work to choose from. Again, provided all studios to some own scouting and present new girls for all - without fare dodger so to say.
But for the studs? I mean how can they work yet more than already on 3-4 scenes per day?! Users dont want them to fake-creampie always, but to shoot some big goo into fave girls faces!

[PAFstudio]

let gain all studios and all performers for make more work and promoting the business...

Well for the girls it would sure be good to have more work to choose from. Again, provided all studios to some own scouting and present new girls for all - without fare dodger so to say.
But for the studs? I mean how can they work yet more than already on 3-4 scenes per day?! Users dont want them to fake-creampie always, but to shoot some big goo into fave girls faces!

I confirm everything that Totonno wrote unfortunately this problem exists and it is time to extinguish it ... some actors even do 10 scenes a week and others instead if they do 2 a month is already a miracle, this problem of making the same actors work too much there would be no if everyone had the opportunity to work, you know that many actors have had serious problems for this reason when instead it would be more correct to regularize the work for all those who have no work and make everything more human and think even more to the health and happiness of the Performers instead of just thinking about making more money ... the actors are not robots and everyone has the right to work according to our opinion so the envy and hatred among the Performers is also raised, and I can assure you that this studio was created precisely for these problems and we have also opened it to help people who do not have a job ... But someone does not like this pacifist way of thinking and they have tried to sabotage us several times in so many ways that you do not imagine and all this would be avoided if there was a strict rule of collaboration, we would like to have a meeting to be able to expose our project, we do not want to accuse anyone and we want someone to come punished, we only want justice and collaboration because we all work for the same person who pays us and we must avoid creating image problems but increase productivity The gain for the studies will also be dictated by how many scenes they will do, however, with the guarantee that in any way they will not have losses and can also greatly improve prices in this case

[dap-addict]

some actors even do 10 scenes a week and others instead if they do 2 a month is already a miracle, this problem of making the same actors work too much there would be no if everyone had the opportunity to work (...) ... the actors are not robots and everyone has the right to work according to our opinion

Important for fans to understand this!
PAF, but you also always work with same actors and not all those who do not work at main big studios anymore. Isnt it natural that studios work with those actors who fit them as persons in trust and style, and who are reliable ofc?

Btw, 10 times per week is little for some actually! Just seen a plan by actor with at least 13 scenes, 7 days work week! Maybe other factor is also that actors earn much less than girl, what some fans dont know. Maybe they earn too little, maybe too much?

[avanfurwet]

I think it could be good for studios to find some areas of common interest where they can all benefit from more cooperation and agreed standards for things like e.g. testing to protect everyone's health. This is normal in every industry.

But studios are still engaged in a competitive business, not a socialist collective. Business owners will cooperate where it benefits them and compete with each other most of the time.

If actors are ambitious and want to set up their own studios, I think that's a good thing. Pornbox provides them with the opportunity to do that.

But there is no reason to imagine that established studios should still wish to employ those actors, knowing they are learning the trade and building up their own network of contacts whilst still getting paid by the established business. It is normal that actors should move on, once their own ambitions become known.

So long as Giorgio and other established studios can hire new journeymen actors to replace the departing ambitious budding owners, then it's all good and everyone gets more opportunities.

Presumably studios would not choose to cast the same actors in every scene if they could hire enough reliable actors to rotate their squads, like a football club. I would have thought more variety of actors would be better for studios to make their scenes more appealing to a wider potential range of customers. Nobody wants tired and listless overworked actors on screen.

So if studios are overworking the same troupe of actors, reasons may include a lack of reliable alternatives, and even possibly because the actors themselves may be asking to work more. Everyone has some responsibilities here, including the actors who need to take care of their own health if they want to keep working and earning.

[Ultra-Gape]

In the music industry, it became easier to pay ten dollars a month,
via spotify or similar, than pirating music. So a lot more people started paying
whereas before they wouldn't have

The trouble with this analogy is that while this approach has been great for consumers it has been terrible for artists/musicians/producers etc.

[dap-addict]

Let me try to go back a bit to OP: Today we have that 8on1 DAP shot in Medellin with Valentina Milan. 8 studs is 4 more than usual, and therefor a studio passing on investments fairly to users has to ask for more tickets to be payed. Its logical.
Thus while last NTP DAP scenes have usually cost around 8TKT this one costs 9,46TKT, i.e about 0,4TKT more for each stud more.
Its not only more studs needed, but also girl gets higher payment if she works with more than 3 or 4 studs usually.
This scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/61799

NTP in these terms is a very fair behaving studio, at the same time educating for users towards sustainability. Prices are still lower than EU studios because girls fees are lower than in Europe in Columbia. Once some of Natasha Teens girls come over to Prague again to work for AVLP studios their DAP scenes logically can't be sold at 8TKT.

[PAFstudio]

some actors even do 10 scenes a week and others instead if they do 2 a month is already a miracle, this problem of making the same actors work too much there would be no if everyone had the opportunity to work (...) ... the actors are not robots and everyone has the right to work according to our opinion

Important for fans to understand this!
PAF, but you also always work with same actors and not all those who do not work at main big studios anymore. Isnt it natural that studios work with those actors who fit them as persons in trust and style, and who are reliable ofc?

Btw, 10 times per week is little for some actually! Just seen a plan by actor with at least 13 scenes, 7 days work week! Maybe other factor is also that actors earn much less than girl, what some fans dont know. Maybe they earn too little, maybe too much?

Unfortunately I'm sorry to say but we were forced to work almost always with the same actors, many times I had to send away guys who showed up drunk or created problems on purpose on the set and I had to remove them and some were even ordered to do it, other actors are afraid because otherwise other studios do not give them other jobs, I've seen people who had to clean the studio or the car To the productor,but come oooon...for me is also difficult to make bbc interracial scene gangbang because few best Black actors are scared, is complicate really we have more good ideas and we would like to make big scenes but like this is almost impossible and is not correct for everyone

[PAFstudio]

Let me try to go back a bit to OP: Today we have that 8on1 DAP shot in Medellin with Valentina Milan. 8 studs is 4 more than usual, and therefor a studio passing on investments fairly to users has to ask for more tickets to be payed. Its logical.
Thus while last NTP DAP scenes have usually cost around 8TKT this one costs 9,46TKT, i.e about 0,4TKT more for each stud more.
Its not only more studs needed, but also girl gets higher payment if she works with more than 3 or 4 studs usually.
This scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/61799

NTP in these terms is a very fair behaving studio, at the same time educating for users towards sustainability. Prices are still lower than EU studios because girls fees are lower than in Europe in Columbia. Once some of Natasha Teens girls come over to Prague again to work for AVLP studios their DAP scenes logically can't be sold at 8TKT.

Exactly I cachet are different...but I read the messages from Oscar and him have the same problem like us and him shot in Brazil...how is possible? Something strange in my opinion him can't make dap or dp scene has told and believe me you can ask also him the cachet is more love than the European cachet, how is it possible him don't gain and lose the money this year and until last year for him it was good...i can't have answers really only God or a real medium can know lol

[PAFstudio]

In the music industry, it became easier to pay ten dollars a month,
via spotify or similar, than pirating music. So a lot more people started paying
whereas before they wouldn't have

The trouble with this analogy is that while this approach has been great for consumers it has been terrible for artists/musicians/producers etc.

Exactly

[PAFstudio]

I think it could be good for studios to find some areas of common interest where they can all benefit from more cooperation and agreed standards for things like e.g. testing to protect everyone's health. This is normal in every industry.

But studios are still engaged in a competitive business, not a socialist collective. Business owners will cooperate where it benefits them and compete with each other most of the time.

If actors are ambitious and want to set up their own studios, I think that's a good thing. Pornbox provides them with the opportunity to do that.

But there is no reason to imagine that established studios should still wish to employ those actors, knowing they are learning the trade and building up their own network of contacts whilst still getting paid by the established business. It is normal that actors should move on, once their own ambitions become known.

So long as Giorgio and other established studios can hire new journeymen actors to replace the departing ambitious budding owners, then it's all good and everyone gets more opportunities.

Presumably studios would not choose to cast the same actors in every scene if they could hire enough reliable actors to rotate their squads, like a football club. I would have thought more variety of actors would be better for studios to make their scenes more appealing to a wider potential range of customers. Nobody wants tired and listless overworked actors on screen.

So if studios are overworking the same troupe of actors, reasons may include a lack of reliable alternatives, and even possibly because the actors themselves may be asking to work more. Everyone has some responsibilities here, including the actors who need to take care of their own health if they want to keep working and earning.

Unfortunately you are wrong because you do not know some situations that have happened and are happening ... many sudios were opened by actors because they were tired of being blackmailed and others had no work and the sense of survival made them react, for us it was precisely this oppression that gave us the strength to react, you have no idea even of the racism we suffered as actors and actresses because we are Italian and how many unfair things we digested ... Now I'll give you an example if everyone wants to be directors who does the actor and the actress? Because many actors are forced to become directors when they are aware and do not understand anything about how to set the lights they adjust a camera they have never studied videography and photography and they create videos wrapped just to survive and to show that they do not give up, we at PAFstudio instead in Italy we were already producers as well as actors and Jack23 is an excellent cameram in fact he arranges the lights and if you watch our videos the lighting is impeccable there is no wrong shadow and you can see everything perfectly because he is a professional who he studied and knows what he does, this problem would not exist if all the actors were freer to choose and even those who don't work because sometimes they don't lick asses, they get a job, they wouldn't have time to produce believe me ... it's very stressful and risky to produce if you are not up to doing it well anyway ... take example Jack23 have you seen him working for other studios anymore? You know how many problems he is still having today to find a job as an actor because of this wrong system, and yet if you have noticed he is an excellent Performer, in our opinion in the pissing scenes he is incredible sometimes you have to stop him because he does too much it also remains two continuous minutes lol ... if a firm feels inferior or does not accept other studies for my opinion it should open its own private site and decide its rules, because from the moment there are other people you must have respect and collaborate so that personal problems bring them to the owner of PB who pays us, this website is not the mafia, it will turn out that it will become a war for the territory lately bad things have happened to some actors it is unacceptable, if one now who is so oppressed and wants the money and all 'suddenly goes mad and beats or stabs everyone because only he wants to exist because he has nothing to lose, the cause of his deficiency will be due to this oppression ... Or he tries the suicide because he has nothing left, guys that really sucks that sucks if something happens, you have to change the world of thinking

[avanfurwet]

Unfortunately you are wrong because you do not know some situations that have happened and are happening ... many sudios were opened by actors because they were tired of being blackmailed and others had no work and the sense of survival made them react, for us it was precisely this oppression that gave us the strength to react, you have no idea even of the racism we suffered as actors and actresses because we are Italian and how many unfair things we digested ... Now I'll give you an example if everyone wants to be directors who does the actor and the actress? Because many actors are forced to become directors when they are aware and do not understand anything about how to set the lights they adjust a camera they have never studied videography and photography and they create videos wrapped just to survive and to show that they do not give up, we at PAFstudio instead in Italy we were already producers as well as actors and Jack23 is an excellent cameram in fact he arranges the lights and if you watch our videos the lighting is impeccable there is no wrong shadow and you can see everything perfectly because he is a professional who he studied and knows what he does, this problem would not exist if all the actors were freer to choose and even those who don't work because sometimes they don't lick asses, they get a job, they wouldn't have time to produce believe me ... it's very stressful and risky to produce if you are not up to doing it well anyway ... take example Jack23 have you seen him working for other studios anymore? You know how many problems he is still having today to find a job as an actor because of this wrong system, and yet if you have noticed he is an excellent Performer, in our opinion in the pissing scenes he is incredible sometimes you have to stop him because he does too much it also remains two continuous minutes lol ... if a firm feels inferior or does not accept other studies for my opinion it should open its own private site and decide its rules, because from the moment there are other people you must have respect and collaborate so that personal problems bring them to the owner of PB who pays us, this website is not the mafia, it will turn out that it will become a war for the territory lately bad things have happened to some actors it is unacceptable, if one now who is so oppressed and wants the money and all 'suddenly goes mad and beats or stabs everyone because only he wants to exist because he has nothing to lose, the cause of his deficiency will be due to this oppression ... Or he tries the suicide because he has nothing left, guys that really sucks that sucks if something happens, you have to change the world of thinking

OK. Thanks for responding on behalf of PAF studio. I'm outside the industry and I'm always ready to learn from people who actually know better from the inside.

What are you saying is actually factually incorrect in my post?

Shouldn't all studios (big and small) be free to hire (or not hire) anyone they choose, and whoever will agree to work with them?

Why is it that the Russian studios (isolated as they are) seem to keep their female models exclusive for as long as possible, yet they seem to work with other male actors almost interchangeably, including those male actors who release scenes under their own studio labels? What is working differently in Russia? Is it just that there are so few male actors in Russia?

[Totonno]

Unfortunately you are wrong because you do not know some situations that have happened and are happening ... many sudios were opened by actors because they were tired of being blackmailed and others had no work and the sense of survival made them react, for us it was precisely this oppression that gave us the strength to react, you have no idea even of the racism we suffered as actors and actresses because we are Italian and how many unfair things we digested ... Now I'll give you an example if everyone wants to be directors who does the actor and the actress? Because many actors are forced to become directors when they are aware and do not understand anything about how to set the lights they adjust a camera they have never studied videography and photography and they create videos wrapped just to survive and to show that they do not give up, we at PAFstudio instead in Italy we were already producers as well as actors and Jack23 is an excellent cameram in fact he arranges the lights and if you watch our videos the lighting is impeccable there is no wrong shadow and you can see everything perfectly because he is a professional who he studied and knows what he does, this problem would not exist if all the actors were freer to choose and even those who don't work because sometimes they don't lick asses, they get a job, they wouldn't have time to produce believe me ... it's very stressful and risky to produce if you are not up to doing it well anyway ... take example Jack23 have you seen him working for other studios anymore? You know how many problems he is still having today to find a job as an actor because of this wrong system, and yet if you have noticed he is an excellent Performer, in our opinion in the pissing scenes he is incredible sometimes you have to stop him because he does too much it also remains two continuous minutes lol ... if a firm feels inferior or does not accept other studies for my opinion it should open its own private site and decide its rules, because from the moment there are other people you must have respect and collaborate so that personal problems bring them to the owner of PB who pays us, this website is not the mafia, it will turn out that it will become a war for the territory lately bad things have happened to some actors it is unacceptable, if one now who is so oppressed and wants the money and all 'suddenly goes mad and beats or stabs everyone because only he wants to exist because he has nothing to lose, the cause of his deficiency will be due to this oppression ... Or he tries the suicide because he has nothing left, guys that really sucks that sucks if something happens, you have to change the world of thinking

OK. Thanks for responding on behalf of PAF studio. I'm outside the industry and I'm always ready to learn from people who actually know better from the inside.

What are you saying is actually factually incorrect in my post?

Shouldn't all studios (big and small) be free to hire (or not hire) anyone they choose, and whoever will agree to work with them?

Why is it that the Russian studios (isolated as they are) seem to keep their female models exclusive for as long as possible, yet they seem to work with other male actors almost interchangeably, including those male actors who release scenes under their own studio labels? What is working differently in Russia? Is it just that there are so few male actors in Russia?

I think what I'm trying to make you understand is that there are those who have too much work and those who do not have it because of this lack of rules and spite... Many actresses are forbidden to go to work for other studios and it is true that many actresses have this problem some guarantee every two months 4 scenes or two scenes not to know, also in my opinion is better if the actress can work for more different studios every month and have not 4 scenes in this case but for example 8 or 10 and the other studios have to make collaboration and communication for publish the scene... More jobs for everyone and more different quality, this is real great for me also i love all scene from PAFstudio and I would like to see more sexy actress in top sellers but they have problems to book this girls... This is bad also for me because I love the style Of their videos

[dap-addict]

Exactly I cachet are different...but I read the messages from Oscar and him have the same problem like us and him shot in Brazil...how is possible? Something strange in my opinion him can't make dap or dp scene has told and believe me you can ask also him the cachet is more love than the European cachet, how is it possible...

What do you mean by cachet, PAF?
About Oscar Batty's post about stopping to shoot DP and DAP in Brasil I was also really surprised. Would be nice if he came here and would explain this, his reasoning. I would have though that shooting in Brasil is much cheaper than shooting in EU. Also Yummy TKT prices suggest exactly this. They shoot DP and DAP all the time, users want DP and DAP all the time, so why not shoot it? Maybe investment for small new studio is too big?

[PAFstudio]

Exactly I cachet are different...but I read the messages from Oscar and him have the same problem like us and him shot in Brazil...how is possible? Something strange in my opinion him can't make dap or dp scene has told and believe me you can ask also him the cachet is more love than the European cachet, how is it possible...

What do you mean by cachet, PAF?
About Oscar Batty's post about stopping to shoot DP and DAP in Brasil I was also really surprised. Would be nice if he came here and would explain this, his reasoning. I would have though that shooting in Brasil is much cheaper than shooting in EU. Also Yummy TKT prices suggest exactly this. They shoot DP and DAP all the time, users want DP and DAP all the time, so why not shoot it? Maybe investment for small new studio is too big?

mean the price for the performance of the models... anyway I just realized with my new scene that I brought the tiket to a good price for you I have not recovered anything, so I think that many actually have never bought with tickets if the budget is the evaluation is this, unfortunately it is not even good not to have a graph or statistics on how many buy in tiket and how many in dollars because I will never be able to make an organizational plan, I raised the price and I hope the valuation will grow up...I'm starting to get paranoid and I'm getting very angry...I'm sorry guys but until there is a collaboration and a meeting with all the studios to solve the problems I will have to keep the prices like the last time at $ 10 our collaborator in Italy who helps to invest is on all the furies, because there are too many things that he does not understand and probably if you do not make a meeting will want to come and ask for explanations, sorry but we have to solve this problem...If this thing of the collaboration make to much stress and problems and someone prefer do blackmail and let me loose the money and I have to pay for my Onest just let me know...And excuse me all if I'm trying to find a strategy to make everyone earn money and solve problems in peace

[zeusanalfreak299]

dap-addict, you are extremely committed, you have to our member's representative. I mean you already are.

Im very excited where your posts will bring us. Great to see there are studios who care about the situations are discussed.

[zeusanalfreak299]

PAFstudio, thanks so much for all the inside infos.

I'm someone who bought all your scenes with Natasha Ink and DiDevi. Love them.

It's great to see you are constantly developing and interacting with the members. Thanks!

[PAFstudio]

PAFstudio, thanks so much for all the inside infos.

I'm someone who bought all your scenes with Natasha Ink and DiDevi. Love them.

It's great to see you are constantly developing and interacting with the members. Thanks!

Thank you very much dear makes us happy to know ... excuse me for the outburst, but believe me this is for too many problems, Nobody help us, more envy and sabotage and if we do something bad for us is the end...what we to do? Just blame the blows?...New scenes will be released soon whit dap and also with Natasha Ink, with fisting also stay tuned and really I will hope the value it will better next time and also I will hope the value of the last video grow up... Thank you

[drevokocur66]

PAFstudio, thanks so much for all the inside infos.

I'm someone who bought all your scenes with Natasha Ink and DiDevi. Love them.

It's great to see you are constantly developing and interacting with the members. Thanks!

Thank you very much dear makes us happy to know ... excuse me for the outburst, but believe me this is for too many problems, Nobody help us, more envy and sabotage and if we do something bad for us is the end...what we to do? Just blame the blows?...New scenes will be released soon whit dap and also with Natasha Ink, with fisting also stay tuned and really I will hope the value it will better next time and also I will hope the value of the last video grow up... Thank you

Only thing you can do, is keep improving the content.

[PAFstudio]

PAFstudio, thanks so much for all the inside infos.

I'm someone who bought all your scenes with Natasha Ink and DiDevi. Love them.

It's great to see you are constantly developing and interacting with the members. Thanks!

Thank you very much dear makes us happy to know ... excuse me for the outburst, but believe me this is for too many problems, Nobody help us, more envy and sabotage and if we do something bad for us is the end...what we to do? Just blame the blows?...New scenes will be released soon whit dap and also with Natasha Ink, with fisting also stay tuned and really I will hope the value it will better next time and also I will hope the value of the last video grow up... Thank you

Only thing you can do, is keep improving the content.

And but if many of the top sellers are blackmailed and brainwashed for us it is almost impossible... and the ratings compared to last year have changed, I had to dimuire the actors because I realized that all the scenes of Dap even with more guys are evaluated more or less similar, and I repeat if we do something bad for put finish at this sabotages after somebody punish us or contact us "this behavior is not acceptable"ok is true BUT WHAT I HAVE TO DO? I don't have other solutions if you don't make collaboration with good rules because I tried to talk with all this people for understand the problem but talk is impossible, and also after they block me and I can't have other conversations...for this we want meeting with all Czech studios and finde solutions good for everyone and everything,

[PAFstudio]

It's great to see you are constantly developing and interacting with the members. Thanks!

Thank you very much dear makes us happy to know ... excuse me for the outburst, but believe me this is for too many problems, Nobody help us, more envy and sabotage and if we do something bad for us is the end...what we to do? Just blame the blows?...New scenes will be released soon whit dap and also with Natasha Ink, with fisting also stay tuned and really I will hope the value it will better next time and also I will hope the value of the last video grow up... Thank you

Only thing you can do, is keep improving the content.[/quote]
And but if many of the top sellers are blackmailed and brainwashed for us it is almost impossible... and the ratings compared to last year have changed, I had to dimuire the actors because I realized that all the scenes of Dap even with more guys are evaluated more or less similar, and I repeat if we do something bad for put finish at this sabotages after somebody punish us or contact us "this behavior is not acceptable"ok is true BUT WHAT I HAVE TO DO? I don't have other solutions if you don't make collaboration with good rules because I tried to talk with all this people for understand the problem but talk is impossible, and also after they block me and I can't have other conversations...for this we want meeting with all Czech studios and finde solutions good for everyone and everything,[/quote]
I'll explain why it's better to have a meeting and put a strict rule to respect and collaborate... came to work with us a girl from Brazil made a scene and after one of the studios that I do not tell you the name he deleted 3 scenes because she came to us, it is a year that this person is envious and tries to sabotage me I decided to contact him and ask for explanations of why this girl cries and why you deleted 3 scenes the girls and boys must be free are not your property ... and he replied "the girls who are here and come to the Czech Republic you do not have to use them, find actresses from the USA" so now what I have to do? I have go to him let him full of kick in the ass and slap him because is to much stupid this answer, but if I do this shit after him talk with the oner and after someone text us "This Behavior is not acceptable " ok but is it acceptable that he blackmails people and tells me that girls in the Czech Republic should not touch them? And I asked him and if not what do you do to mister Al Capone And he blocked me... his actors are afraid of not having work if they come to me and the actresses as well, and therefore if no one does justice, a collaboration is not created and it is right that there are blackmail and threats because I should be punished if I slap this moron who does not know how to be in the world and does not respect society, and I also defend the rights of this girl... there must be a balance to everything to solve the problem for good for everyone, that's why we decided this is to stupid to do the real good solution is not react with other ignorance but WE HAVE TO MAKE A BIG COLLABORATION AND FINDE A GOOD SOLUTIONS FOR GAIN ALL WITHOUT PROBLEMS AND OTHER STUPID THINGS, no wars but peace and collaboration like normal people, thank you let me know and sorry for my English

[dap-addict]

mean the price for the performance of the models...

Ok, now I understand, thanks!
Yes, strange, Oscar must pay smaller model fees (=cachet) in Brasil than you pay in Prague, still he seems to have problems to invest money in additional studs. Maybe his problem is rather that he has too little money left to invest upfront in scene. If so it would not be connected with any recent PB changes at all.
Oscar problem with DP and DAP shootings would be than more connected with his personal business situation? Maybe because of inflation? Or over-investment to get Mambo Perv. studio running at first place.

PAF be glad you have a 3rd investor in Italy!

[PAFstudio]

mean the price for the performance of the models...

Ok, now I understand, thanks!
Yes, strange, Oscar must pay smaller model fees (=cachet) in Brasil than you pay in Prague, still he seems to have problems to invest money in additional studs. Maybe his problem is rather that he has too little money left to invest upfront in scene. If so it would not be connected with any recent PB changes at all.
Oscar problem with DP and DAP shootings would be than more connected with his personal business situation? Maybe because of inflation? Or over-investment to get Mambo Perv. studio running at first place.

PAF be glad you have a 3rd investor in Italy!

Yes, but it is the investor who is not happy haha

[Junior_oliveira_JuniorOlvr]

mean the price for the performance of the models...

Ok, now I understand, thanks!
Yes, strange, Oscar must pay smaller model fees (=cachet) in Brasil than you pay in Prague, still he seems to have problems to invest money in additional studs. Maybe his problem is rather that he has too little money left to invest upfront in scene. If so it would not be connected with any recent PB changes at all.
Oscar problem with DP and DAP shootings would be than more connected with his personal business situation? Maybe because of inflation? Or over-investment to get Mambo Perv. studio running at first place.

PAF be glad you have a 3rd investor in Italy!

In the case of Brazilian models, it would be more viable to come to Brazil where it is cheaper and the payment is in Real instead of Euro.

[Oscar Batty]

mean the price for the performance of the models...

Ok, now I understand, thanks!
Yes, strange, Oscar must pay smaller model fees (=cachet) in Brasil than you pay in Prague, still he seems to have problems to invest money in additional studs. Maybe his problem is rather that he has too little money left to invest upfront in scene. If so it would not be connected with any recent PB changes at all.
Oscar problem with DP and DAP shootings would be than more connected with his personal business situation? Maybe because of inflation? Or over-investment to get Mambo Perv. studio running at first place.

PAF be glad you have a 3rd investor in Italy!

In the case of Brazilian models, it would be more viable to come to Brazil where it is cheaper and the payment is in Real instead of Euro.

It seems like you do not know what you are talking about. Unless you are a Brazilian and the girls works for you in the Brazilian price. Foreigners never get the same price as the local, of course the price isn't like in Europe but not cheaper in relation with the performance, the girls look ( very hard to find girls for porn without tattoos ) . Accommodation, foods, production have to pay for the performers full test which isn't cheaper as well and transport are way more expensive than Europe.

There are cheaper places to leave in Brazil but I am not going to advise anyone to stay there for safety reasons.

By the way, I am not the only one with trouble in Brazil at the moment. I think I am actually in a slight better position.

[Oscar Batty]

mean the price for the performance of the models...

Ok, now I understand, thanks!
Yes, strange, Oscar must pay smaller model fees (=cachet) in Brasil than you pay in Prague, still he seems to have problems to invest money in additional studs. Maybe his problem is rather that he has too little money left to invest upfront in scene. If so it would not be connected with any recent PB changes at all.
Oscar problem with DP and DAP shootings would be than more connected with his personal business situation? Maybe because of inflation? Or over-investment to get Mambo Perv. studio running at first place.

PAF be glad you have a 3rd investor in Italy!

You are again talking about things you don't understand. I think Jack has spoken to another PB producer in Brazil who actually is more experienced and produced mostly gangbang scenes.
His situation is not better than mine. When you are a gringo in a Brazil, you should forget about paying cheaper things or staying in cheaper places. Any foreigners living in Brazil know what I am talking about.