Tapping USA market for talent - is it possible?

[netzerkaiser]

Just looking at the quite free-flowing amount of American beauties who flit in & out of the industry, usually unhibited pretty next-door types; such as below:

http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/kallie-taylor.html
http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/brookie-blair.html
http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/hyley-winters.html

I mean just look at his lady, Kallie Taylor (for example), shes gorgeous!

It'd be great if AV could work with casting studios involved & bring the girls on?

Or does that mean pitch war with indigenous USA industry?

PS: I've consciously out of respect for XXX not mentioned any competitor sites - maybe any responses should hold to same principle?

[gerrymarta]

Would LOVE to see more Americans coming to Prague.
Especially MILFs. Book them all on the same flight and put them in the same scenes together.
Bring them over in groups for efficiency and ease

[netzerkaiser]

Would LOVE to see more Americans coming to Prague.
Especially MILFs. Book them all on the same flight and put them in the same scenes together.
Bring them over in groups for efficiency and ease

Thank you GerryMarta. But why not have an LA studio, & capture at source?

The talent is there, the attitude & willingness of these ladies is there, in spades.

This is what I don't understand.

+ AV would be tapping in big-time to North American consumer market, blowing dinosaur competitors away. Because AV is BETTER than them.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Would LOVE to see more Americans coming to Prague.
Especially MILFs. Book them all on the same flight and put them in the same scenes together.
Bring them over in groups for efficiency and ease

Thank you GerryMarta. But why not have an LA studio, & capture at source?

The talent is there, the attitude & willingness of these ladies is there, in spades.

This is what I don't understand.

+ AV would be tapping in big-time to North American consumer market, blowing dinosaur competitors away. Because AV is BETTER than them.

A LA office, studio, staffed with American personnel would add significantly to the costs of running this business.
Known talents with a proven record of performing and selling from the USA probably already charge more.
Having additional office(s) there, would probably eat into the profits for studios who publish their work on AV/PB.

[netzerkaiser]

Would LOVE to see more Americans coming to Prague.
Especially MILFs. Book them all on the same flight and put them in the same scenes together.
Bring them over in groups for efficiency and ease

Thank you GerryMarta. But why not have an LA studio, & capture at source?

The talent is there, the attitude & willingness of these ladies is there, in spades.

This is what I don't understand.

+ AV would be tapping in big-time to North American consumer market, blowing dinosaur competitors away. Because AV is BETTER than them.

A LA office, studio, staffed with American personnel would add significantly to the costs of running this business.
Known talents with a proven record of performing and selling from the USA probably already charge more.
Having additional office(s) there, would probably eat into the profits for studios who publish their work on AV/PB.

Thanks. If there was no pitch-war, I'd go for it, hells bells. I'd smell victory & profit. The conveyor belt of talent & attitude is there.

[dap-addict]

Or does that mean pitch war with indigenous USA industry?

I'm really no expert on US porn, but market seems quite consolidated there and investment to set up sth new pretty high. Also LP seems to have been unfortunate with own little US studios so far. Last one who wanted to shoot there mainly and really felt the LP needs was Pineapple, but he suddenly disappeared.

Anyway, as far as I understand US fees are pretty low currently and more imports are planned again. Travel options opened up again, too. But of curse nobody will import a no-name rookie to test her market in Europe because for this travel costs are just too high.

It could still actually be an opportunity for US girls willing to invest themselves into their career. EU fees are really pretty high at the moment! But she'd have to say goodbye to that slow US step-by-step culture. Anna de Ville could actually be a role model here.

[davebowman]

THey haven't released much in a while, but isn't this what the 'American Anal' studio was? (I presumed they were based in USA, maybe I was wrong?)

[Paizal]

It'd be great if AV could work with casting studios involved & bring the girls on?

I think US girls have more market power than ever before. They shoot a handful of scenes with big studios and then disappear behind the OF pay walll. There they can shoot what they want and demand what they want.

Why would they go to Europe, shove two dicks up their asses when they make more money with 10 minute dildo clips? There will always be wild US girls who want to shoot in Europe. But new, fresh, natural looking US girls have more opportunities to make money with their bodies in the US.

[avanfurwet]

LP parent company own BangBros. So if they want to commission more content in USA, or expand their own operations in USA, they can.

[netzerkaiser]

Thanks guys for such great insights, Paizal, Avanfurwet, DAPAddict et al.

So I understand now, these ladies often are making an intro, getting their faces out there, & then retreating to world of web cam etc, something I know nothing about. I wouldn't know what a webcam was if you hit me over the head with one.

I'm just glad for them that they're able to make some sort of career progress & a living out of it.

[YumYum74]

There are the American Anal and Black in White labels on AV, but both seem to have fizzled out. AA sometimes pops up to release a few scenes and then becomes dormant again, while BIW seems to have died completely.

Maybe the majority of US based models just isn’t willing to shoot the more extreme content (compared to the standard rather weak US porn anyway) that is popular here. Or if they are willing their rates are too high.

[dap-addict]

Maybe the majority of US based models just isn’t willing to shoot the more extreme content (compared to the standard rather weak US porn anyway) that is popular here.

Well, sure their porn upbringing or business standards are different. Its two different worlds and it becomes more and more difficult to mix them. Also see the other way round: When has last Eurobabe travelled there and made an impact? Or even just travelled there for porn work tour? US rates have become pretty low, traveling is more expensive, it doenst pay to fly over anymore. But this creates a certain opportunity for US girls who want to earn more than they could at home. Its not the Colombia-EU difference ofc, but they can have some pretty good earning.
But than brought up in a different business environment only few do it so far. But there will be more again.

[netzerkaiser]

There are the American Anal and Black in White labels on AV, but both seem to have fizzled out. AA sometimes pops up to release a few scenes and then becomes dormant again, while BIW seems to have died completely.

Maybe the majority of US based models just isn’t willing to shoot the more extreme content (compared to the standard rather weak US porn anyway) that is popular here. Or if they are willing their rates are too high.

You see, this is the thing.

There is for example, this real beauty called Aubree Valentine, who seemingly doesn't do anal, but is happy to do rimming.

I would have thought rimming was a more extreme act, certainly a more self-debasing act than anal, for a lady on a guy, in front of cameras. Yet so many gorgeous young American starlets clearly are quite happy to do it.

http://www.pornteengirl.com/model/aubree-valentine.html

[dap-addict]

There is for example, this real beauty called Aubree Valentine, who seemingly doesn't do anal, but is happy to do rimming.

I would have thought rimming was a more extreme act...

Thats another important business environment difference: Europorn has its own history and its own rules, first DAP for instance was shot in 1976 in France. Anal for different reasons is really a basic ingredient of Europorn. Girls not offering it have no chance, at least not on AVLP.

[netzerkaiser]

There is for example, this real beauty called Aubree Valentine, who seemingly doesn't do anal, but is happy to do rimming.

I would have thought rimming was a more extreme act...

Thats another important business environment difference: Europorn has its own history and its own rules, first DAP for instance was shot in 1976 in France. Anal for different reasons is really a basic ingredient of Europorn. Girls not offering it have no chance, at least not on AVLP.

AVLP... I like that turn of phrase. It marries old & new. Poetic.

[bake0213]

The American markets has tons of issues - puritanical politics, massive obesity rates, expensive operating costs, higher dollar alternatives to porn, let alone extreme porn and I'm sure numerous others.

[MackZatis]

The American markets has tons of issues - puritanical politics, massive obesity rates, expensive operating costs, higher dollar alternatives to porn, let alone extreme porn and I'm sure numerous others.

I think everything you said here is wrong or just pain absurd. What does "massive obesity rates" have to do with pornstars coming to AV/LP?
Same goes for politics. What does that have to do with it?
Again operating costs, what does that have to do with this?
And just what is "higher dollar alternatives to porn"??? You mean drugs like cocaine and heroin???
Just a shot in the dark here, but are you from outside the USA bake0123?

Another thing: To anybody thinking travel expenses' are a prohibitive factor, think again. Average ticket price worldwide is LOWER than was in 2018. 2018 a time of MANY MANY USA imports. So I don't believe that holds any water.

Also not to mention the all important #1 thing that needs to be answered before there is a serious thought to bring whoever over is; DOES THIS PERSON PERFORM THESE ACTS? If not, it starts and stops right there. No need to even waste brain cell on it.

Lastly. To put simply; There is NO NEED for any performer to fly that far (deal with passport/visa) to get something they CAN get right there IF THEY WANTED. UNLESS that person want to or "needs" to really PUSH THEIR LIMITS sexually. Which is why only truly "sex crazed" "insatiable" ones make the trip. Such as Dee Williams, Syren De Mer, Veronica Avluv (still pissed at you GIO for fucking that up!), Avery Jane, Holly Hendrix, Violet Monroe and hell, Proxy Paige & Anna De Ville MOVED OVER THERE!
Fanboi's don't get your man-panties all bunched up and come at me with "OH USA porn isn't as hardcore/extreme as AVLP" or similar stupid statement. Well cuz for the most part that is/was true. But NOBODY else is either.
BUT! I will say having watched several DAP's that were very recently shot, and were shot by different companies and directors in USA. I'll say that NOT FOR 1 SECOND DID THE BOTTOM ANCHOR IN DAP EVER JUST LAY THERE MOTIONLESS NOT DOING ANYTHING!!! So yeah for whatever that's worth to ya. To me quite a bit. And the performers were no Anna De Ville, not even close. Well actually 1 was, Rebel Rhyder. But 2 were not.
So the argument I hear on the forums a lot (sorry DAP-a, but normally you) that the anchor is just reading the females signs cuz she can't handle it at that time or something like that. I SAY BULLSHIT. Most are fat or at least some chubby'ness. But FOR SURE none of the guys here have ANY ENDURANCE physically. Meaning they can't fuck for more than 20-40 seconds max, before they need to tap out and rotate. Which also didn't happen in those scenes I saw recently.
I'm a big AVLP fan/supporter, yes my fan'dom has been tempered the past 2 yrs or so. But when I watched those scenes, I swear to *insert a higher powers' name that while I was watching I said aloud to my self, these guys do DAP BETTER THAN LPAV right now. Because it was/is true. Better camera/equipment, better camera angles, better harder deeper faster fucking, better & newer positions and last but not least, some actual PASSION & chemistry between the performers. Not contempt, anger & vitriol. (powers to be here don't think that matters, but it does.)
Don't believe me go check it out for yourself. One was Tommy King, 2 were Rebel Rhyder, one was London River and the last was Lilly Hall. I'm not going to say what company because I don't want this to get deleted or thread locked. But you guys know the 2 companies these would be for. Remember Google is your friend....

Oh and this time it really is LASTLY; MAYBE THE FEMALES DON"T FEEL LIKE BEING PISSED ON BY NUMEROUS COMPLETE STRANGERS MANY MANY TIMES AND FEEL LIKE THEY'RE FORCED TO "DRINK IT".
I dunno, call me crazy.....

[Paizal]

^But you can't compare US DAP scenes with EU DAP scenes. It's a whole other level visually and also for the girls. 95% of all US DAP scenes are shot with the same ridiculous mini dicks. A DAP scene with John Strong, Jules Jordan, Zac Wilde or Dupree have ZERO impact. They're thin little pencils. The girls who shoot US DAP scenes would get a shock if they saw the GONZO guys.

[cumdump]

Travel costs are quite high right now, is probably main cost and time to travel is another, money and time, huge expenses.

[starboy1337]

There is for example, this real beauty called Aubree Valentine, who seemingly doesn't do anal, but is happy to do rimming.

I would have thought rimming was a more extreme act...

Thats another important business environment difference: Europorn has its own history and its own rules, first DAP for instance was shot in 1976 in France. Anal for different reasons is really a basic ingredient of Europorn. Girls not offering it have no chance, at least not on AVLP.

Are you "Porn Historian"? But i agree that A-scenes are pretty common in Europe. In US, it takes some time for girls to get their first A-scenes. Also it could be part of the strategy to get it on for example Tushy or Deeper to get maximum money from that. I think Gianna Dior anal scene was for Evilangel and we had to wait some time.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Stick mostly with European and nearby talents, nothing like more 'local girls' who are extremely hot, willing and great at what they do.

As for American talents, you can release scenes with them from time to time...as you are currently.
LPAV has a good record of being able to get American talents to perform here from time to time, for Giorgio's studios and/or Gonzo.
There is no need to exclusively start heading in that direction and purposefully trying to get more American models here. Some are definitely needed to expand and develop the next phase of LPAV, but the priority should still be European and nearby girls.

[gerrymarta]

Would LOVE to see more Americans coming to Prague.
Especially MILFs. Book them all on the same flight and put them in the same scenes together.
Bring them over in groups for efficiency and ease

Thank you GerryMarta. But why not have an LA studio, & capture at source?

The talent is there, the attitude & willingness of these ladies is there, in spades.

This is what I don't understand.

+ AV would be tapping in big-time to North American consumer market, blowing dinosaur competitors away. Because AV is BETTER than them.

Unfortunately piss drinking isn’t a legal category in the USA, despite having many thirsty American models!!!

[Paizal]

Unfortunately piss drinking isn’t a legal category in the USA, despite having many thirsty American models!!!

There are no laws in this regard. Studios only fear banks and credit card companies.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Piss and other extreme sex acts are more prone to censorship in the US, I remember Max Hardcore had to do a normal European cut of his work, and then a special, softer, edited version for the American market. This is why LPAV should stick to Europe and nearby countries, with of course talents from South America, Asia, Australasia, USA etc coming in from time to time...

[netzerkaiser]

The American markets has tons of issues - puritanical politics, massive obesity rates, expensive operating costs, higher dollar alternatives to porn, let alone extreme porn and I'm sure numerous others.

I think everything you said here is wrong or just pain absurd. What does "massive obesity rates" have to do with pornstars coming to AV/LP?
Same goes for politics. What does that have to do with it?
Again operating costs, what does that have to do with this?
And just what is "higher dollar alternatives to porn"??? You mean drugs like cocaine and heroin???
Just a shot in the dark here, but are you from outside the USA bake0123?

Another thing: To anybody thinking travel expenses' are a prohibitive factor, think again. Average ticket price worldwide is LOWER than was in 2018. 2018 a time of MANY MANY USA imports. So I don't believe that holds any water.

Also not to mention the all important #1 thing that needs to be answered before there is a serious thought to bring whoever over is; DOES THIS PERSON PERFORM THESE ACTS? If not, it starts and stops right there. No need to even waste brain cell on it.

Lastly. To put simply; There is NO NEED for any performer to fly that far (deal with passport/visa) to get something they CAN get right there IF THEY WANTED. UNLESS that person want to or "needs" to really PUSH THEIR LIMITS sexually. Which is why only truly "sex crazed" "insatiable" ones make the trip. Such as Dee Williams, Syren De Mer, Veronica Avluv (still pissed at you GIO for fucking that up!), Avery Jane, Holly Hendrix, Violet Monroe and hell, Proxy Paige & Anna De Ville MOVED OVER THERE!
Fanboi's don't get your man-panties all bunched up and come at me with "OH USA porn isn't as hardcore/extreme as AVLP" or similar stupid statement. Well cuz for the most part that is/was true. But NOBODY else is either.
BUT! I will say having watched several DAP's that were very recently shot, and were shot by different companies and directors in USA. I'll say that NOT FOR 1 SECOND DID THE BOTTOM ANCHOR IN DAP EVER JUST LAY THERE MOTIONLESS NOT DOING ANYTHING!!! So yeah for whatever that's worth to ya. To me quite a bit. And the performers were no Anna De Ville, not even close. Well actually 1 was, Rebel Rhyder. But 2 were not.
So the argument I hear on the forums a lot (sorry DAP-a, but normally you) that the anchor is just reading the females signs cuz she can't handle it at that time or something like that. I SAY BULLSHIT. Most are fat or at least some chubby'ness. But FOR SURE none of the guys here have ANY ENDURANCE physically. Meaning they can't fuck for more than 20-40 seconds max, before they need to tap out and rotate. Which also didn't happen in those scenes I saw recently.
I'm a big AVLP fan/supporter, yes my fan'dom has been tempered the past 2 yrs or so. But when I watched those scenes, I swear to *insert a higher powers' name that while I was watching I said aloud to my self, these guys do DAP BETTER THAN LPAV right now. Because it was/is true. Better camera/equipment, better camera angles, better harder deeper faster fucking, better & newer positions and last but not least, some actual PASSION & chemistry between the performers. Not contempt, anger & vitriol. (powers to be here don't think that matters, but it does.)
Don't believe me go check it out for yourself. One was Tommy King, 2 were Rebel Rhyder, one was London River and the last was Lilly Hall. I'm not going to say what company because I don't want this to get deleted or thread locked. But you guys know the 2 companies these would be for. Remember Google is your friend....

Oh and this time it really is LASTLY; MAYBE THE FEMALES DON"T FEEL LIKE BEING PISSED ON BY NUMEROUS COMPLETE STRANGERS MANY MANY TIMES AND FEEL LIKE THEY'RE FORCED TO "DRINK IT".
I dunno, call me crazy.....

I agree completely. The entire USA scene is woefully underrated by many contributers here. Its like they never got past 1980's 'blue movies with big hairdo's & Duran Duran type soundtrack.

[gerrymarta]

Need way more American models, especially American MILF/Mature.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

Need way more American models, especially American MILF/Mature.

I think behind the scenes, LPAV is working on this...more American MILFS, more mature women who are very sexy and hot. I think they are called COUGARS now???

[dap-addict]

All sorts of US girls and MILF will be in Prague, soon, dont worry!

[pomegrante]

Katrina Colt
@XxxKatrina
I’m headed to Europe today ✈️ Guess who I’ll be shooting for…

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