Piracy

[netzerkaiser]

The cancer of piracy has to be sorted out.

Then prices can be dropped to sustainable levels.

Its not rocket science.

If piracy was sorted out, & the people who are members of any site, who download as members & upload to free sites, were chased & stopped, hopefully politely, then you could surely sell scenes at 2 / 3 tickets & you'd still make handsome profit.

What am I saying that doesn't defy common sense?

I just do not understand.

I hope I come across as on the level. I'm just trying to be fair to LP/AV, the models, the consumers... to keep it sustainable.

[xxx]

I think it's only a matter of time before user generated content isn't allowed any more for adult sites. Probably sooner than later.

[netzerkaiser]

I think it's only a matter of time before user generated content isn't allowed any more for adult sites. Probably sooner than later.

Thanks so much for reply. DEEPLY RESPECTED.

That day can't come soon enough for:

1 all honest users

2 all providers (like yourself)

3 all actresses

Thank you XXX

[xxx]

does anyone at legalporno managment have any inside word on weather piracy is concern for the studios under pornbox?

It's a concern for everyone producing content.

[Ultra-Gape]

The trouble is its clearly very difficult to prevent piracy, or it would have been done already.

[davebowman]

I understand the sentiment, but Hollywood studios with all their billions of dollars can't stop every movie released getting instantly pirated and shared online for free as soon as it's released, so I'm not sure what AnalVids/Pornbox can do about it. We already had releases watermarked with big blocky yellow 'anti-piracy' pixels, and that didn't seem too achieve much.

I'm not saying AnalVids/Pornbox shouldn't clamp down on whatever piracy they can stop, but it's an unwinnable game of 'whack-a-mole'. It's of probably equal importance to focus on building this site into a place that's of such high quality and value that people actively choose to come here and pay and support, rather than steal content.

[dap-addict]

I think it's only a matter of time before user generated content isn't allowed any more for adult sites. Probably sooner than later.

What is user generated content?
Just not sure I understand.

[avanfurwet]

Its not rocket science.

Sadly, I think it is.

Nobody has the answer. DRM doesn't really seem to work. And as others have pointed out, creators are spending time and money playing whack-a-mole.

[Ultra-Gape]

I think it's only a matter of time before user generated content isn't allowed any more for adult sites. Probably sooner than later.

What is user generated content?
Just not sure I understand.

I think the comment related to individual users uploading videos to free streaming sites, as a way of sharing content that they don't own.

[stevehappy339]

what I'm assuming is if prices are reduced and simultaneously the stigma around this industry is reduced then it would be mostly like the music industry where people are subscriptions for music services
I mean back in early 2000s music piracy was it peak but now it's very low in fact it's for them

[Ultra-Gape]

what I'm assuming is if prices are reduced and simultaneously the stigma around this industry is reduced then it would be mostly like the music industry where people are subscriptions for music services
I mean back in early 2000s music piracy was it peak but now it's very low in fact it's for them

I understand where you're coming from but the trouble with that analogy is that the streaming model has been terrible from a financial perspective for artists/musicians/songwriters etc.

[ExtremePornFan]

The cancer of piracy has to be sorted out.

Then prices can be dropped to sustainable levels.

Its not rocket science.

If piracy was sorted out, & the people who are members of any site, who download as members & upload to free sites, were chased & stopped, hopefully politely, then you could surely sell scenes at 2 / 3 tickets & you'd still make handsome profit.

What am I saying that doesn't defy common sense?

I just do not understand.

I hope I come across as on the level. I'm just trying to be fair to LP/AV, the models, the consumers... to keep it sustainable.

I have mentioned it many times. I think everyone who was stealing porn was paying for it the prices could drop substantially and producers would still have more money to reinvest. Producers and distributors seem to just consider it a cost of doing business. Maybe it is just too time consuming and expensive to pursue.

Why should they be stopped politely? If they are uploading full videos to free sites they know exactly what they are doing. I have even seen pirates remove watermarks and or put their watermark on content they steal.

[Jocke]

Well, we still want amateur porn on those sites. PH have verified user content. I expect that that will still be around.

I have a PH premium account. I never watch it after the purge. Now PH is better than PHP. The free site is better than the subscription version. How smart is that?

[visigoth2020260]

Well, we still want amateur porn on those sites. PH have verified user content. I expect that that will still be around.

I have a PH premium account. I never watch it after the purge. Now PH is better than PHP. The free site is better than the subscription version. How smart is that?

advertisement = $$$ sometimes you must join the crowd.

[MackZatis]

I mean back in early 2000s music piracy was it peak but now it's very low in fact it's for them

That because Spotify has STOLEN all the music FOR US! Apple no longer (or shortly to happen) sells single songs on iTunes because it simply can't compete with free/subscription services like Spotify/Pandora/Prime music/ ect.... These services which were heralded/lauded at the time as saviors to the "artist" saying that they're a means to get more money to the artists, in fact did the opposite. In which these "few" streaming GIANTS have pretty much KILLED the music industry, at the VERY LEAST has it on full-blown life support....
Same can easily happen in the gaming industry, and has already started to take the same "path/steps" as music did with the subscription services, and the console makers buying up every production studio they can get their hands on....

So not really an approiate analogy, but I'm sure people knew what you were shooting for......

[MackZatis]

I understand where you're coming from but the trouble with that analogy is that the streaming model has been terrible from a financial perspective for artists/musicians/songwriters etc.

Didn't read the whole thread before I posted, but yeah YOU GET IT. (see my above reply)

[MackZatis]

just a quick thought in regards to the OP's whole point of posting; reduced pricing.

A very EASY way to keep costs down and from further continual increases would be; for producers to not feel the need to CRAM IN every niche fetish, and constantly "one upping" a performers previous performance feats. All these additional acts COST MONEY.
I'm assuming that all the "additional female fisting" (esp. GIO productions) isn't free. I'm also assuming it's nowhere near a full 1 on 1 sex scene fee either. But I don't remember ever hearing a huge outcry for excessive amounts of female fisting in EVERY scene, ok well 95% of scenes. Those who were asking for fisting, I'm again assuming here, meant male on female. And I'll add also not while being fucked in the same hole, really grinds the flow/pace to a halt.
But back to my point of the OP's point; Everything that's added into a scene ALSO adds to the purchase price. And The temptation is TOO high for producers because they fear/worry poor sales of a scene, so they try to MASS APPEAL/MARKET to the largest amount users/camps.
I think a LOT of the "LP was better circa 201?" cry's that are said so very often is from the fact that scenes were MORE FOCUSED 5+yrs ago. Meaning that a scene was focused on 1 or 2 specific niche/fetish. Not as many as possible to appeal to mass audience. Fans of those acts/niche/fetish were a lot less likely to be disappointed by or feel let down by having a bunch of other stuff thrown in & done wishy-washy & half-assed. Looking back & remembering it seems like such a better time(s) because they can't remember having those feelings of disappointment so often or for so many videos as they do currently (past 3yrs till now).
There is a very valid argument to be made that the whole "pornbox" experiment/store/amature clip hoster/whatever tomorrow brings is in fact it's own "monster" that has created these times we're currently in. And has nothing to do with the users/customers and demand/what sells/what doesn't/ect....
But that is another topic for another day.