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Re: Jolee Love

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Tue May 03, 2022 6:52 am

MobyMcFly wrote:OMG, how insane awesome is this scene?! 11/10
No brainer instant buy!

This combo Jolee Love & Eden Ivy - super hot
Both with some nice Pleaser heels (keep on) - for me perfect
Jolee back in Pleaser heels
Eden with extra high Pleaser heels 20+cm
Nice and good perfomance from all

Please more from this.

I'm really excited for Part 2.


Pleaser high heels do indeed look incredibly sexy. As does Jolee's lingerie, including the bra she is wearing, very HOT!

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Postby MackZatis » Tue May 03, 2022 7:51 am

dap-addict wrote:A pity that price is an instant_pass. AGREED!!!
But look her stockings cost 81-217 Kcr today while a year ago it might have been 40-108 Kcr, you you see its all still really fair. ??????


I don't get this statement at all. For many reasons.
You're front line in the fight against the price hikes, yet you ALWAYS seem to default back to GIO fanboi mode and defend him at all costs (literally). I've seen this behaviour from you many times before. Unless there is still some language barrier, as I know English to not be your 1st language....

Also the price of stockings (how do you even know what brand and model? they are to comapre?) cost more for the END USER/CUSTOMER for several or many reasons. Raw materials harder to procure, delays in packaging, increased shipping costs, Labor shortages means more overtime hrs for already employed workers, more stops in the supply chain (more hands to touch product, means higher price). So on & so on....

The price to produce a scene HAS NOT changed. The process to "manufacture" a new "product" (scene) HAS NOT changed. He (as far as I know) HAS NOT had to hire significantly more employees. There is NO raw material needed to procure to make his "product". (unless you consider female and even male talent "raw material", but then you walking a dangerous line regarding considerations of people "product" and not human. Another topic for another day, I'm not touching that). There is no physical "shipping" or "distribution" networks needed, hell there isn't even a PHYSICAL PRODUCT! It's all digital & virtual which means it's a ONE TIME purchase, not a constantly reoccurring charge for each new "batch" of product.

The only thing that COULD cost more is flights/travel. But that's on HIM, NOT US! He's the only studio that does that, but to be fair, I don't exactly go looking for who else does. I'd imagine I've had heard about it more then just the once (him) in my 20+yrs following the adult biz if it were a wide spread thing. In the USA flights are CHEAPER despite inflation. Not alot of people flying as before, so prices go down. Not as low as 2020 pandemic level prices, but still well below 2018 when COVID wasn't even a word to 99.9% of the world. I'm assuming the same applies (mostly) to the rest of the world.

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Re: Jolee Love

Postby MackZatis » Tue May 03, 2022 7:54 am

dap-addict wrote:But look her stockings cost 81-217 Kcr today while a year ago it might have been 40-108 Kcr, you you see its all still really fair. ;)


Unless that was sarcastic, and I totally missed it. If so, My bad, I apologize.
And if I did, it's simply from seeing you defend GIO SOOO many other times.

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Re: Jolee Love

Postby MackZatis » Tue May 03, 2022 7:57 am

Ok now I see. I deleted your "winky" with ???? in my first post. So my bad. All around my bad. But my point still remain valid on the larger issue, your last posts' original issue/statement.

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Re: Jolee Love

Postby dap-addict » Tue May 03, 2022 8:49 am

Matt, GIO studio has fully implemented that PB-inflicted de facto 35% price rise. Giorgio explained to me and other critics of ticked devaluation by 35% that he first has to test the market because sales will drop ofc. I am talking tongue-in-cheek about stockings in a price range of 3,5 to 9,2$, which may have cost 1,75-4,6$ in local currency a year ago.
Do I therefore defend GIO's price policy? - I did and do still defend his product and the quality of it, but all products have a price that needs to be reasonable and fair for the customer.
Now lets see how much even most expensive stockings used in that scene increase the end price for me as a customer? Or asked the other way round: Does an increase of 4,6$ make a price rise of 35% fair? - No it doenst! Therefore I put that wink smiley.

We all are used as guiney-pigs for future GIO studio turn-over. Of course I could say, oh wow, finally Jolee Love again, and such nice pleaser heels, I am so pleased I buy it no matter how much this scene costs. Its an easy say and there are some posters here I frankly doubt they buy all the scenes they are always in awe about. Me in turn I do have supported GIO studio for 7years with lots of $$$$ and thats easy to verify by PB managers. And now I put a break on that because +35% is neither reasonable nor fair. :mad:

Anyway, we all are trying to find a compromise currently, we dont say it openly, but thats what is happening every new scene release day. Jolee Love is a great girl with a good work ethic, I am sorry she stumbled between those front-lines, but she'll make her way, I am sure. She's too beautiful and too smart.
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Re: Jolee Love

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Tue May 03, 2022 5:16 pm

dap-addict wrote:Of course I could say, oh wow, finally Jolee Love again, and such nice pleaser heels, I am so pleased I buy it no matter how much this scene costs. Its an easy say and there are some posters here I frankly doubt they buy all the scenes they are always in awe about. Me in turn I do have supported GIO studio for 7years with lots of $$$$ and thats easy to verify by PB managers. And now I put a break on that because +35% is neither reasonable nor fair. :mad: [/b]


@dap-addict I can honestly say that before the +35% ticket increase, and some recent personal issues to face - I was genuinely one of those customers who bought a HUGE number of scenes. Since, I became a registered member, I would say that I would on average I buy 5+ scenes EACH DAY...perhaps even more (many are not the newest releases).

I still praise the quality of the very best studios on here, of which Giorgio is definitely one of them. I am also very appreciative that in another forum thread, both xxx and Giorgio Grandi took time to respond to fans/customers.

When my personal matters are resolved, time permitting, and if prices return to what I perceive is a more reasonable level...all the scenes that are on my watchlist will be bought. I can do a big buy of lots of tickets, to get all the scenes that I have not been buying but want to.

I know I can easily download these scenes for free on torrent sites, but I actually want to help/support porn. If everyone is a porn pirate, the business would suffer and no one would make money. I want the industry to continue, more importantly to thrive and to evolve into something that becomes better and better.

Back on to the topic of Jolee Love. I did say her pleaser heels are stunning, and damned right they are! In previous posts, I have also said that I actually pick Jolee Love to be the next megastar MILF of AV in a few years' time, get her primed to one day replace one of many people's favourite (the much loved, and very popular Syren de Mer).

Thank you for your positivity, willingness to contribute something to the PB forums @dap-addict.
If there were not posters like you, the forums would be dead...

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xxxVIPERxxx wrote:@dap-addict I can honestly say that before the +35% ticket increase, and some recent personal issues to face - I was genuinely one of those customers who bought a HUGE number of scenes. Since, I became a registered member, I would say that I would on average I buy 5+ scenes EACH DAY...perhaps even more (many are not the newest releases).

If only I had that kind of disposable income again! That's like the good old days for me when I discovered Legal Porno. I doubt those days will ever return, even if I had the money. I can't believe these sort of prices are encouraging new customers, or keeping old customers. In 2021 I bought a mere 25 scenes. In 2022 I've purchased no scenes at all. Compare this with the glorious year of 2016, when I got 145 scenes! Yes 145! Those were the good old days when membership was worth it, free tickets got you plenty of supplemental porn and the girls were plentiful and hot. Granted I have had little disposable income in the last couple of years, which has impacted my porn purchasing habit; however the new pricing model has effectively priced me out of the market. Compare this to the four year membership of Brazzers which cost me a mere £160 quid and I can watch and download any scene I like. Yes I know I'm not comparing like for like, but it represents much better value for money.
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Re: Jolee Love

Postby davebowman » Wed May 04, 2022 9:44 am

This scene looks pretty great - but I'm afraid at this price (a total of 23.5 tickets for both wet parts) I'm going to have to draw a line in the sand and refrain from buying. I can't keep encouraging this when there are so many hundreds of amazing back catalogue scenes at 5-8 tickets.

Also looking at those screenshots, Eden Ivy's bush is putting me off. Sure, it's only a small one, and I could live with it if the price were lower - but at this price EVERYTHING needs to be perfect. :(

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Re: Jolee Love

Postby Rapidus12 » Fri May 06, 2022 5:19 pm

yess, the scene is good but expensive :)
i think Jolee's GAP is becoming bigger an bigger! she is ready for TAP!!!

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Postby MackZatis » Mon May 09, 2022 5:04 am

This is going to be a bit of a "hi-jacking". Sorry.

xxxVIPERxxx wrote:I can honestly say that before the +35% ticket increase, and some recent personal issues to face - I was genuinely one of those customers who bought a HUGE number of scenes. Since, I became a registered member, I would say that I would on average I buy 5+ scenes EACH DAY...perhaps even more (many are not the newest releases).

I'm 100% NOT trying to offend here, or start a fight. I'm just trying to get to the point & be honest. So with all due respect, You are genuinely a MAJOR part of this current "situation" going on. Not you singularly or specifically; but others like you as well. Buying MASS amounts of scenes each day. Keep doing so as prices steadily climb year after year. No matter how much crap "filler" content they shove on the main page, you buy some & ask for more. That confirms in their minds that they're ok, not going too far. With either, prices & filler. So they go at it some more & some more...... And here we are. Management almost exclusively catering to new & "newer" members, too dumb to realize what the current "market prices" were. In such a boner haze & sensory overload at the "new" genre of porn you've discovered, that you had to have it "all", & all at once!
Ownership was trying to raise prices for a while back then (2017) +/- a year. But every time they talked about it in the forum, it was met with heavy opposition (naturally), but the talks also INCLUDED what members WOULD be willing to PAY. Lets just say that mark has been eclipsed a while ago.
XXX just said the other day (paraphrasing here) "he doesn't want this place to be more expensive or less expensive than other market places." This was said in context/relation to content providers setting abnormally high prices here to drive customers to THEIR OWN site/store. That he'd be kicking out "bad apples".
But if it's his content, it's okay to price hike and take advantage of people to dumb or uninformed to know better. Hence why I can find MANY examples like the following .

Aubrey Black - A Workout Fuck to Remember;
Here's the price is DOUBLE what it is elsewhere ($10 vs. $4.99), and it's also 8 MINUTES SHORTER!!!
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/104667
https://www.data18.com/scenes/5721077#image5001

Aubrey Black - Gets What She Wants;
Again same thing, price is DOUBLE!!! ($10.50 vs. $4.99) But I guess we should be happy though as they are both the same length.
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/204460
https://www.data18.com/scenes/1200664

Again XXXViperXXX no disrespect intended, not intentionally trying to attack you, but just trying to be brutally blunt & honest. Trying to use least amount of words and posts to do so.

I know I can easily download these scenes for free on torrent sites, but I actually want to help/support porn. If everyone is a porn pirate, the business would suffer and no one would make money. I want the industry to continue, more importantly to thrive and to evolve into something that becomes better and better.

Yes, I know where and how to & I feel the same way. I also agree to an extent. Ownership risks driving away once paying customers. Not just that though, not only are they not going to make some sales because of too high a price. But now those people that don't have the best "moral fabric" or even ones who are now just pissed off will get what they want for free. AND of that group of people SOME WILL NEVER come back to pay for scenes. They've "crossed over" or were "driven away" in their minds. They see it's easy and didn't get arrested, so will continue to do so. Only the highest "character" people will come back to pay now, or not even leave in the first place...
One last thing; I want the "business" to evolve also, but brother this is the WRONG PLACE if you're hoping for that. This place will just keep taking your money (ever increasing amounts) and keep on pumping out the SAME MIND-NUMBINGLY REPETITIVE SCENES.
*to be clear, I do fell this place has "fairly good" to "good" new content. It's just that it could be MUCH better, with VERY LITTLE to almost NO EFFORT!!!


So XXXViperXXX, I hope you don't forever hate me for "calling you out" earlier. Again to be clear, it's not specifically you. Just that you posted pretty much what I've felt was the catalyst for this whole shit show starting years ago. You just happened to be the "one" who posted it.
Cheers :cool:

ps. Hope everything works out for you & in the end doesn't have an impact on your life afterwards at all. Be it mentally, emotionally, physically or monetarily. Much luck

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Re: Jolee Love

Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Mon May 09, 2022 3:27 pm

Thanks for the detailed response above Mac!

I read it, no offense taken by me. Always nice to see and read people's interpretations.
I do think that as you rightly point out, I am probably not the only one who fits into that category (of buying lots of scenes).

Let's hope there is a calming of the price increases, I do not expect that they will ever get back to 5-6 tickets per premium scene.
However, there is hope that some studios will decrease the ticket prices compared to the 11-14 tickets (ish) that we are currently seeing.

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Postby 2017sucks » Tue May 17, 2022 7:36 pm

Rapidus12 wrote:yess, the scene is good but expensive :)
i think Jolee's GAP is becoming bigger an bigger! she is ready for TAP!!!
Tonight might be your lucky night! :)

Coming up, Wet Monster of TAP, GIO2156. :cool: ;)
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Postby PornoManiac » Tue May 17, 2022 7:45 pm

Gio2156 is probably not wet... :(
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Postby 2017sucks » Tue May 17, 2022 7:46 pm

By the way, Wet version is actually "215" now, hope they fix it quickly, add "6" and Release tonight. Not like Francys Waka Waka, Wet version few weeks after dry.

Yeah, Maniac, just saw your post... Type just GIO215 and you will see
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Re: Jolee Love

Postby PornoManiac » Tue May 17, 2022 8:23 pm

Ah ok you're right
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Postby stevehappy339 » Tue May 17, 2022 8:26 pm

PornoManiac wrote:Gio2156 is probably not wet... :(

How did you figure out that scene is coming out?

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Re: Jolee Love

Postby 2017sucks » Tue May 17, 2022 8:31 pm

stevehappy339 wrote:
PornoManiac wrote:Gio2156 is probably not wet... :(

How did you figure out that scene is coming out?

Go to pornbox home Page or AV.com home page

Type GIO215 and GIO2156 in search field... Will see not found when click on it.. But soon they will Release and all be good...
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Postby 2017sucks » Tue May 17, 2022 8:33 pm

They added 6 for Wet. ;) So 2156
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Postby stevehappy339 » Tue May 17, 2022 10:59 pm

Nah I’m asking how did you crack the code

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Postby 2017sucks » Tue May 17, 2022 11:24 pm

stevehappy339 wrote:Nah I’m asking how did you crack the code
There's nothing to be cracked. Simply, few months ago, I was curious and checking, typing number by number, to see what numbers missing (not released)... Typed for example GIO206 and it showed me all scenes available starting like that. 2061, 2063...then I saw some that seems that still was released in that moment. Clicked on it, got not found note. And it came out later that night or next night. Since than, lot of upcoming visible on that way. GIO, GL, XF. Maybe they change now but nah, its only 1-3, 4 days "upcoming gap"... ;)
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Postby 2017sucks » Tue May 17, 2022 11:25 pm

* was NOT released in that moment
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Postby dap-addict » Tue May 17, 2022 11:43 pm

2017sucks wrote:I was curious and checking, typing number by number, to see what numbers missing (not released)... Typed for example GIO206 and it showed me all scenes available starting like that. 2061, 2063...then I saw some that seems that still was released in that moment. Clicked on it, got not found note.

Thats a pretty good method! :cool:
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Postby TomHardick » Wed May 18, 2022 1:47 am

Fuck yes!!!. Finally Jolee's TAP, best day of the year. I couldn't be any happier right now. Can't wait to watch this masterpiece!

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Postby j455b2 » Wed May 18, 2022 3:17 am

Instant Buy! Instant Buy! Jolee's long awaited second TAP. Review to follow, this is so overdue.

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dap-addict wrote:
2017sucks wrote:I was curious and checking, typing number by number, to see what numbers missing (not released)... Typed for example GIO206 and it showed me all scenes available starting like that. 2061, 2063...then I saw some that seems that still was released in that moment. Clicked on it, got not found note.

Thats a pretty good method! :cool:
And who knows, maybe we had upcomings on that way, all these years. :eek: :( And everyone sticked just to 14 days rule, that more or less often was broken with some new girl s, got their debut scenes, or established stars got Release after few months absence. From what I saw in the last few months, no rule about this for GIO stuff... GIO, XF, GL... Sometimes you can see even 3, 4 upcoming scenes, sometimes 1. Sometimes will be visible 10 hours, 7 hours, 3 hours, or 2 hours before midnight CET and new releases. Sometimes they release those 1 by 1 night after night, sometimes some of those still stay unreleased 5, 7, 10 days... And some "surprise" scene being released in that period, not visible on that way until the moment of Release. Still, even that is better than nothing... Of course, we can see something on Twitter and Instagram but no notes about Release day and sometimes not even about type of scene, 1 girl, 2 girls, DAP, DP or TAP, Wet or dry. Only rare exception is when Giorgio, Angelo, Florane, Oscar, xxx... Make a post on forum "that scene coming tonight, tomorrow night'...

By the way, some of upcoming SZ was also visible on that way, couple of months ago but I guess that now with rare updates, they want to stay in complete silence. And would be good they start again with that and all other studios to bring back numerization (Yummy for example), or to start with that - Angelo. And to have those upcomings. ;)


About the scene, amazing, Yes, once again Giorgio, thats what I call a porn! Thanks! ;)
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Postby xxxVIPERxxx » Wed May 18, 2022 5:05 am

TomHardick wrote:Fuck yes!!!. Finally Jolee's TAP, best day of the year. I couldn't be any happier right now. Can't wait to watch this masterpiece!


Jolee Love in another TAP with Giorgio = instant masterpiece. I hope this scene sells very well, and is the bestselling scene of the day!
We can always do with seeing much more of a sexy Jolee Love working for Giorgio!

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Postby dap-addict » Wed May 18, 2022 9:24 am

I see the new GIO BBC from Togo is finally allowed to fuck as well.
He's been working since Easter Releases but shown little so far.
I wish him well!

Needless to say all about Jolee. Nice style! Scene looks like fun! :)
Her TAP fee is higher obviously than some peers, but she's a porn superstar!
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Postby paco80741 » Wed May 18, 2022 11:03 am

fantastic scene, jolee in amazing shape, she drinks with an incredible naturalness, this model always gets better with the passage of time, thanks giorgio, thanks jolee

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Postby chiconagori » Wed May 18, 2022 3:52 pm

i wish for a fully naked scene of Jolee , her last 5 scenes was all for stocking and long boot lovers , please Giorgio give us also full naked

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Postby jackthetreacleeater » Wed May 18, 2022 4:22 pm

Foot fetishist: WTF, why is my favourite girl not bare-foot in every scene, I demand she be bare-foot all the time!
High-heel fetishist: WTF, why is my favourite girl bare-foot in this scene, she should be wearing the most ridiculous porn stilettos at all times!
Naked fetishist: WTF, why is my favourite pornstar wearing horrible lingerie in this scene, she should be naked in everrrrry scene ever!
Lingerie fetishist: WTF, why is my favourite pornstar naked in this scene, why isn't she wearing the most slutty porno lingerie known to man all the time!
and ad infinitum...
Rest of us: Shake our heads and wonder quite what it is people are looking at when watching porn :rolleyes:
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Postby dap-addict » Wed May 18, 2022 4:43 pm

jackthetreacleeater wrote:and ad infinitum...
Rest of us: Shake our heads and wonder quite what it is people are looking at when watching porn :rolleyes:

LOL! ;)
But well, I buy DAPs, used to buy over 70% of all of them produced here or so. But when putting them on my wishlist instead of insta_buy, its because the DAP-ed girl is naked. Its just a fact. And I dont concentrate on that while watching her dap, but if some nice extra is added I have more joy watching her dap for me. :)
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Postby jackthetreacleeater » Wed May 18, 2022 4:51 pm

I guess I'm in an odd minority then, where I just don't care really. It's more about the action for me and how many dicks the girls is tackling. I'm concentrating on the penetration. I guess I have a slight preference for over-the-top porno heels and classical lingerie, but I'm not bothered if a girl is in lingerie, yoga pants or naked. Haven't seen many girls in corsets lately though ;)
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Postby Syren_fan » Wed May 18, 2022 5:24 pm

jackthetreacleeater wrote:I guess I'm in an odd minority then, where I just don't care really. It's more about the action for me and how many dicks the girls is tackling. I'm concentrating on the penetration. I guess I have a slight preference for over-the-top porno heels and classical lingerie, but I'm not bothered if a girl is in lingerie, yoga pants or naked. Haven't seen many girls in corsets lately though ;)


Well ... my good buddy, I can say that when my favourite girls is on screen : It doesn't matter, I agree
But in general, I like stockings and heels and accessories
But if it doesn't , its ok ;) ;) ;)
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Re: Jolee Love

Postby jackthetreacleeater » Wed May 18, 2022 5:51 pm

So much easier being easy going in life I find ;)
But on topic, nice to see JL doing TAP again, even if she jumped the shark for me some time back. No doubt the tip fucking brigade will be up in arms too!
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Re: Jolee Love

Postby dap-addict » Wed May 18, 2022 6:01 pm

Jolee never got up to that shark for me yet, but I really like her overall performance and also clothing style in this newest GIO scene. I'd like her a bit more classy and a bit wilder, but judging from trailer it looks like a really good mix all in all. I do not care much for TAP, though. But for her its sure nice because its maximum fee. ;)
Anyway, talking about this scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/143600 (GIO2156, if I remember right)
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