POLL: Fairest studio after 35% tkt price rise of 15th April?

[error01x]

I did not have a clue as well because the studios did not increase their prices but the conversion of the tickets prices changed. XXX explained it in the locked thread as a conclusion. I actually think this thread is really misleading.

DAP-addict you are very wrong here. I will explain this to you. When the studio set prices, they set it in us dollars not in tickets. Studios dont see tickets but this is what you guys see.

Let me give you an example before the changes, I charge 6 usd for 1on1 scenes. It used to give 4 tickets
at the momennt I am still charging 6 usd for 1on1 scenes but you guys see 5.4 tickets

if you want me to sell you the scene at 4 tickets as previously, I will have to put the 1on1 scene to cost less than 4 usd. Do you get it now?

The point is that apart from this so called "ticket conversion" for you nothing has changed, and for PB nothing has changed. But for the rest of us, out of the blue our money (in ticket form) has lost 30-40% of its value on this site. That might not be a big deal to you, but for us that is a HUGE change for the worse.

Whats the reason to change the prices?

[dap-addict]

error, check some of xxx explanations here: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=41089

[dap-addict]

Btw, 26 hours after that sudden unheralded ticket devaluation by 35% this was xxx answer to YumYums question what happened:

The increase in prices is a major concern for us.

It is extra complicated because of our original pricing structure where tickets start at less than 1 for a dollar and can go up to more than 1 for a dollar. Nowadays content creators set prices in USD though so an arbitrary conversion has to take place.

As you know I have been wanting to change this system for a long time and use direct, real prices instead. The problem is that it is a risky move that is dangerous for people who rely on us.

Read carefully and several times, please!

[dap-addict]

Today's AGO release looks like Angelo Godshack might be down from de facto ticket price rise of 35% to 25% now. Based on an AGO 2on1 DP cost of 6,5tkt beginning of March before that crazy unheralded sudden ticket devaluation.

This scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/72593
25% is still double inflation in Czech Rep, though.

[dap-addict]

Today's AGO price for the Jennifer Mendez DAP/TP/DVP seems cheaper a but as well. On top there is finally a statement by Angelo Godshack about those crazy prices in the AGO subform: viewtopic.php?f=244&t=41365&p=644500#p644209

Its still far from clear for me, but at least there is something!

[number1s]

Pricing on this site is now all over the place. To take just one absurdity, the “double penetration treatment” scene with Lilit Sweet is shown twice……
https://www.analvids.com/model/3815/lilit_sweet

Identical scene but one priced at 2.1, the other at 7.5.
(Maybe the higher price option is for “those that can afford to pay more.”)
Sit on your hands until someone gets a grip.

[Starrio]

The main issue I see is that some 1 on 1 scenes are getting fair prices, but gangbangs are not, which means 1 on 1s will get support, but no gangbangs, which may make producers think people don't want gangbangs, but in reality they do, they are just too expensive. Hopefully producers will realize this on time. Although I already love 1 on 1s, so it's a good thing at least some of those are still at a barely OK price.

[YumYum74]

The main issue I see is that some 1 on 1 scenes are getting fair prices, but gangbangs are not, which means 1 on 1s will get support, but no gangbangs, which may make producers think people don't want gangbangs, but in reality they do, they are just too expensive. Hopefully producers will realize this on time. Although I already love 1 on 1s, so it's a good thing at least some of those are still at a barely OK price.

In light of that, I noticed that today for the professional studios there were a LOT of 1 on 1 scenes (NRX, XfreaX, Erika Korti, Gio's Lab, Angelo). More so than gangbang/group scenes. Probably a coincidence at this point, but worth keeping an eye on.

[dap-addict]

Some further explanation of what happens with the money we users pay more because we pay higher ticket prices in the AGO sub-forum. Remember it was AGO studio referred to by xxx first when he tried to explain what is happening on April 12/13th: viewtopic.php?f=244&t=41365&p=645125#p645038

I'm getting more and more confused actually.
But maybe we are just all too stupid?

[xxx]

Some further explanation of what happens with the money we users pay more because we pay higher ticket prices in the AGO sub-forum. Remember it was AGO studio referred to by xxx first when he tried to explain what is happening on April 12/13th: viewtopic.php?f=244&t=41365&p=645125#p645038

I'm getting more and more confused actually.
But maybe we are just all too stupid?

You can look at it this way :

Studio wants $10 for content : Pornbox would convert this to 7 TKT in the store. Now it's converted to 9 TKT (Those numbers are just for argument's sake).

The cost of TKT has not changed. Their value has not changed. What has changed is the price tag in TKT.

One does not necessarily get more money by putting up higher prices though...

The point of this change wasn't to try and get more money from you. As I wrote multiple times it was meant to match the original price in USD better.

[drevokocur66]

Some further explanation of what happens with the money we users pay more because we pay higher ticket prices in the AGO sub-forum. Remember it was AGO studio referred to by xxx first when he tried to explain what is happening on April 12/13th: viewtopic.php?f=244&t=41365&p=645125#p645038

I'm getting more and more confused actually.
But maybe we are just all too stupid?

You can look at it this way :

Studio wants $10 for content : Pornbox would convert this to 7 TKT in the store. Now it's converted to 9 TKT (Those numbers are just for argument's sake).

The cost of TKT has not changed. Their value has not changed. What has changed is the price tag in TKT.

One does not necessarily get more money by putting up higher prices though...

The point of this change wasn't to try and get more money from you. As I wrote multiple times it was meant to match the original price in USD better.

But by the same token, my monthly $ USD purchase, should give me more tickets, you know, to match the original price in USD better.

[YumYum74]

You can look at it this way :

Studio wants $10 for content : Pornbox would convert this to 7 TKT in the store. Now it's converted to 9 TKT (Those numbers are just for argument's sake).

The cost of TKT has not changed. Their value has not changed. What has changed is the price tag in TKT.

One does not necessarily get more money by putting up higher prices though...

The point of this change wasn't to try and get more money from you. As I wrote multiple times it was meant to match the original price in USD better.

The cost of TKT may not have changed (100 tickets will likely cost me more or less the same as last month). I grant you that. But you can’t say that their value hasn’t changed. If 100 tickets could buy me 100 scenes before (not accurate but as a numbers example), now they buy me only 66 scenes. So their value has most definitely changed.

[Ultra-Gape]

But by the same token, my monthly $ USD purchase, should give me more tickets, you know, to match the original price in USD better.

That would in practice mean absolutely nothing had changed though.

[Ultra-Gape]

The main issue I see is that some 1 on 1 scenes are getting fair prices, but gangbangs are not,

How are you figuring that out? I mostly buy 1 on 1 scenes which have also notably gone up in price. I know the female models cost more, and there are crew and venue costs, but if anything I'd say 1 on 1 scenes were and remain disproportionately expensive.

[dap-addict]

Some further explanation of what happens with the money we users pay more because we pay higher ticket prices in the AGO sub-forum. Remember it was AGO studio referred to by xxx first when he tried to explain what is happening on April 12/13th: viewtopic.php?f=244&t=41365&p=645125#p645038

I'm getting more and more confused actually.
But maybe we are just all too stupid?

You can look at it this way :

Studio wants $10 for content : Pornbox would convert this to 7 TKT in the store. Now it's converted to 9 TKT (Those numbers are just for argument's sake).

The cost of TKT has not changed. Their value has not changed. What has changed is the price tag in TKT.

One does not necessarily get more money by putting up higher prices though...

The point of this change wasn't to try and get more money from you. As I wrote multiple times it was meant to match the original price in USD better.

But dont you understand that still in fact we have to spend more money now if we want to buy as many scenes as we did before the tkt to £ conversion change?

So what do you actively do in order to help us customers not to be forced to spend 35% more?

This looks more and more like scapegoating!

[avanfurwet]

... Their value has not changed. What has changed is the price tag in TKT.

I don't think both these statements can be true.

We understand that the cost to buy TKTs remained the same, but each TKT now buys less new releases than before.

[davebowman]

The cost of TKT has not changed. Their value has not changed. What has changed is the price tag in TKT.

I don't really see any way to sqaure the logic of these statements? If the price tag has increased by 35% then the value of tickets has changed - it's gone down by 35% for us consumers. Studios are charging more tickets to get the same amount they used to - us costomers are paying the difference (or not paying in protest, but that's another story). There's no kind of spin that can be made to say it's all just an accounting discrepancy that's been fixed, and it's not hitting customers in the pocket, or that LegalPorn/AnalVids isn't making more money by doing this.

If the tickets just needed to be devalued to make things closer to US dollar then it should have been done across the board. Ticket prices go up by 35%, but you get 35% more tickets for your sub.

[avanfurwet]

The cost of TKT has not changed. Their value has not changed. What has changed is the price tag in TKT.

I don't really see any way to sqaure the logic of these statements? If the price tag has increased by 35% then the value of tickets has changed - it's gone down by 35% for us consumers. Studios are charging more tickets to get the same amount they used to - us costomers are paying the difference (or not paying in protest, but that's another story). There's no kind of spin that can be made to say it's all just an accounting discrepancy that's been fixed, and it's not hitting customers in the pocket, or that LegalPorn/AnalVids isn't making more money by doing this.

If the tickets just needed to be devalued to make things closer to US dollar then it should have been done across the board. Ticket prices go up by 35%, but you get 35% more tickets for your sub.

XXX has said repeatedly that the extra money from the price increase in TKTs is all flowing through to the studios, not to the PB platform. I haven't seen any actual evidence to dispute that, although statements from studios like AGO seem to muddy the waters

I don't think XXX is telling us anything untrue. It's just that the whole truth is that studios have maintained their high USD prices which inevitably means the price in TKT is now higher for new releases at the new exchange rate.

So we customers can decide whether to pay these prices to the studios, or not.

[dap-addict]

XXX has said repeatedly that the extra money from the price increase in TKTs is all flowing through to the studios, not to the PB platform. I haven't seen any actual evidence to dispute that, although statements from studios like AGO seem to muddy the waters.

Well, this is what Angelo Godshack said:
Maybe he didnt understand either what happened, which would be reflected by the fact that the today released MILF 6on1 DAP is indeed much cheaper again in TKT. But waters are not clear yet for me.

Angelo, thanks for finally - after 4 weeks! - coming here and talk to us about ticket prices of AGO scenes!

I would be very interested to get confirmation that you actually are getting more dollars per ticket, because I'm not sure anyone at PornBox actually knows how this works anymore.

+ 1

Yeah the Studios/Producers must be getting more, or Pornbox must be getting more, the money has to be going somewhere from the "conversions" if this is the case.

Angelo:
Unfortunatelly, studios/producers are getting same or if they want to keep same price for you, they get even less [/quote]

[avanfurwet]

Angelo:
Unfortunatelly, studios/producers are getting same or if they want to keep same price for you, they get even less

This is where I think the studios are either confused or "taking cover" behind the changes made by Pornbox, to claim "our prices are the same" when in practice they are more.
The studios may be getting the same per ticket as before, but if the scene costs more tickets, then following what XXX has said, the studio must be getting more $$$.
Unless Angelo is saying that XXX is wrong, which I doubt.

[Starrio]

So if Angelo says they are getting the same that means that 35% is going somewhere else. And if they reduce the price they get less, then this whole ticket to USD conversion just made everything worst for everyone except wherever that 35% us going to.

The solution mentioned here that the packages should get you more tickets for the same price is perfect. If they do that they solve the problem. The packages/subscriptions can give you 35% more tickets and then problem solved.

[bake0213]

The solution is to gracefully allow studios to go out of business by spending your money elsewhere, or not. Continue spending on the higher priced scenes and then make your stand (or not) when prices go up again.

[dap-addict]

The solution mentioned here that the packages should get you more tickets for the same price is perfect. If they do that they solve the problem. The packages/subscriptions can give you 35% more tickets and then problem solved.

That sounds fair indeed.
Now lets see whether it happens or not.
If not, which I suppose, than sb wants to make more money but doenst tell so.
At this very moment it still looks like big confusion and scapegoating. And those who pay the price of that sudden ticket to $ conversion change are we the users of the product.

[xxx]

The solution mentioned here that the packages should get you more tickets for the same price is perfect. If they do that they solve the problem. The packages/subscriptions can give you 35% more tickets and then problem solved.

That sounds fair indeed.
Now lets see whether it happens or not.
If not, which I suppose, than sb wants to make more money but doenst tell so.
At this very moment it still looks like big confusion and scapegoating. And those who pay the price of that sudden ticket to $ conversion change are we the users of the product.

This sounds more like both of you don't understand at all. As pointed by Ultra-Gape above it would mean nothing would change (a full 360 for nothing) and the content would still be sold too cheap compared to the prices they really want.

[vvvv84335]

So, I released GIO2084 with the intention to track really deeply the audience behavior to understand is a lower price make really a difference in sales.
The point is only this, I hope you understand

Giorgio, I think you want to proof to yourself with GIO2084 (https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/127270) that it doest work.
But we both know that this girl is a special interest girl not a mainstream beauty.

But look, if with 35% less ticket value (after conversion to $$) you could be sustainable and make some profit all over 2021, so why in 2022 you need to generate so much more profit?

With all due respect, DAP/DPP and everything on this site is "special interest"

[dap-addict]

This sounds more like both of you don't understand at all. As pointed by Ultra-Gape above it would mean nothing would change (a full 360 for nothing) and the content would still be sold too cheap compared to the prices they really want.

Apart from probably AGO they could produce for years and years with the old ticket rate and nothing has put them out of business.
So why they need more money now?
And if so, why 35% more?

[YumYum74]

So I've done a little research, and although it's hardly an exact science, there's still some wisdom to learn. I've compared prices to (relatively) similar scenes for some of the studios mentioned in this poll. That includes prices before and after the ticket devaluation (prices all for dry versions):

Gonzo:
There seems to be indications that Gonzo scenes have actually gone down in price instead of up. For example a 4v1 DP scene with Madison Quinn (released before) costs 7.0 tickets, while a 4v1 DP (and DAP!) scene with Gina Snow (released after) goes for 6.7. That's 5% less. For 6v1 DAP scenes it's even bigger. I've found two of those, both released after. NiciXDream was released shortly after and costs 10.3 tickets. A much more recent 6v1 DAP with Baby Kxtten suddenly only costs 8.1 (that's 21% less!). Did the Nici scene do bad because of the high price and was it adjusted for the release of the Baby scene?

Giorgio Grandi:
The most egregious in terms of price hiking are Gio's studios. Take for example a Waka Waka 4.1 with Mary Jane that was released before and costs 7.8 tickets, and compare it with the same style Waka Waka with Silvia Dellai which was released after. That one costs 10.81 tickets, which is a 38% price increase. The same big gap shows for 6v2 DAP scenes. Take Francesca Palma/Lilly Veroni (released before), that went for 9.1 tickets, and compare it with a recent Eden Ivy/Jolee Love. That one is 29% more expensive at 11.76 tickets.

Giorgio's Lab:
Here we find the biggest hike. 'My first DP' with Isabella Both (released before) goes for 5.8 tickets. The same type of scene with Ashley Woods is 50%(!!) more expensive at 8.78. The gap is somewhat smaller in 1v1 scenes. Alba Lala (released before) costs 4.9, compared to 6.35 for Aurrora Paoli. Still a 30% increase.

XfreaX:
For this label I'll suffice with the easiest one to compare: the BTS scenes. They used to cost 4.5 tickets, while now they are 6.08. A price hike of 35%.

NRX Studio:
This one seems to be all over the place still. For example, the last debut 1v1 scene with Jessika Stone released before, costs 6.81 tickets. After that we've seen in order of release Aliska Dark (9.4 tickets, or 38% more), then Elise Moon (7.21 tickets, or 5% more), then Red Louboutin (8.7 tickets, or 29% more). Those differences are somewhat less obvious in DP scenes. Mia Grandy's one was released shortly before at 7.77 tickets. After that we've seen Aliska Dark (8.56, or 10% more) and Elise Moon (8.11, or 4% more). Seems Nick is still experimenting.

Yummy Estudio:
This one surprised me somewhat. I was convinced their prices didn't really increase all that much, but it turned out to be more than I expected. Take a 4v1 DAP/TP with Larissa Leite. It was released before and costs 6.4 tickets. Two similar scenes released after (4v1 DAP, but no TP) starring May Akemi and Venus On Fire are going for 7.66 tickets each. An increase of 19%. I also compared two 4v2 DAP scenes. One released before with Eva Perez and Polly Petrova. That one is 7.9 tickets. A scene with Polly and Mina (released after) goes for 8.87, which means a 12% increase.

Angelo Godshack Originals:
Squirting Wars (4v2) with the Dellai twins was released before at 10.3 tickets. A similar scene with Mia Trejsi and Nathalie Kitten is 22% more expensive at 12.61 tickets. Very interesting are some solo gangbangs. A 5v1 DAP scene with Jennifer Mendez (released before) costs 8.7 tickets, while a 6v1 DAP scene (one stud more) with Eveline Dellai (released after) costs 11.76 tickets. That is a 35% increase. But...another 6v1 with Aubrey Black released later is 8.56 tickets, which is almost the same price as the Jennifer Mendez scene (released before). An indication Angelo is adjusting his prices to a more normal level?

Like I said it's not an exact science, and I've not taken into account girl fees and such, but it's still a small indication of where we stand. Giorgio BY FAR the most expensive, and no indication it will change. Others also increased but not as much (or not at all like Gonzo), or still experimenting. Let's see how it develops.

[drevokocur66]

The solution mentioned here that the packages should get you more tickets for the same price is perfect. If they do that they solve the problem. The packages/subscriptions can give you 35% more tickets and then problem solved.

That sounds fair indeed.
Now lets see whether it happens or not.
If not, which I suppose, than sb wants to make more money but doenst tell so.
At this very moment it still looks like big confusion and scapegoating. And those who pay the price of that sudden ticket to $ conversion change are we the users of the product.

This sounds more like both of you don't understand at all. As pointed by Ultra-Gape above it would mean nothing would change (a full 360 for nothing) and the content would still be sold too cheap compared to the prices they really want.

But you are trying to convince us that nothing HAS changed, just valuation tkt vs USD is different, when in fact that raises the cost of the scenes for us, the customers. Bottom line, it made the scenes more expensive for us.

[xxx]

But you are trying to convince us that nothing HAS changed, just valuation tkt vs USD is different, when in fact that raises the cost of the scenes for us, the customers. Bottom line, it made the scenes more expensive for us.

How is writing

What has changed is the price tag in TKT"

trying to convince you that nothing has changed?

[drevokocur66]

But you are trying to convince us that nothing HAS changed, just valuation tkt vs USD is different, when in fact that raises the cost of the scenes for us, the customers. Bottom line, it made the scenes more expensive for us.

How is writing

What has changed is the price tag in TKT"

trying to convince you that nothing has changed?

So yes, the cost of scenes went up for members that use ticket system. Which is just about everyone.

[dap-addict]

Its really interesting but even more sad to watch and read since 1mt how customers concerns are downplayed and denied here.
The more if loyal customers are concerned.

[dap-addict]

This said of course I do actually appreciate that gonzo and a few other studios xxx has direct financial stakes in did actually lower their prices as to lower their ticket prices. This is a nice move!
And I feel especially gonzo studio should get more votes here .

[dap-addict]

Next one is N&F studio co-owner and co-director Florane Russell obviously surprised by what happened suddenly and unheralded 1mt ago with that 35% ticket devaluation: viewtopic.php?f=104&t=11586&start=160#p647315

[PAFstudio]

Good evening to all I think I speak also on behalf of other small studies that compared to last year and january I am having a drop in the ratings of the scenes of 40%And it never happened, I'm sorry that the prices of tiket are high but we have experienced that if I lower the prices the evaluation is lower for me, If you don't believe me, I can show the my value of the last scene, I am transparent, i would like to make scene with 5 guys but is risky for us I'm totally sure I will lose the money and is also strange all this...

[YumYum74]

Good evening to all I think I speak also on behalf of other small studies that compared to last year and january I am having a drop in the ratings of the scenes of 40%And it never happened, I'm sorry that the prices of tiket are high but we have experienced that if I lower the prices the evaluation is lower for me, If you don't believe me, I can show the my value of the last scene, I am transparent, i would like to make scene with 5 guys but is risky for us I'm totally sure I will lose the money and is also strange all this...

I appreciate you taking the time for this post.
And I’m sorry to hear that, it sounds almost like a no win situation for you. Don’t have any advice to give you unfortunately. Only that if the change in ticket value has affected you this much (if I understand you correctly sales have dropped 40%?), it seems to mean that a lot of customers are unable (because they don’t have the budget) or unwilling (because they don’t want to reward the sudden ticket change) to buy a lot of scenes anymore.

If that is the case, this is turning into a situation where almost everyone (studios, performers, customers) loses.

[PAFstudio]

Good evening to all I think I speak also on behalf of other small studies that compared to last year and january I am having a drop in the ratings of the scenes of 40%And it never happened, I'm sorry that the prices of tiket are high but we have experienced that if I lower the prices the evaluation is lower for me, If you don't believe me, I can show the my value of the last scene, I am transparent, i would like to make scene with 5 guys but is risky for us I'm totally sure I will lose the money and is also strange all this...

I appreciate you taking the time for this post.
And I’m sorry to hear that, it sounds almost like a no win situation for you. Don’t have any advice to give you unfortunately. Only that if the change in ticket value has affected you this much (if I understand you correctly sales have dropped 40%?), it seems to mean that a lot of customers are unable (because they don’t have the budget) or unwilling (because they don’t want to reward the sudden ticket change) to buy a lot of scenes anymore.

If that is the case, this is turning into a situation where almost everyone (studios, performers, customers) loses.

Exactly we have always put for a year the same prices and we have always earned a fair profit, since January instead have begun the drops in valuation and towards the end of February and beginning of March the total collapse, the actresses and actors rightly ask for a fairly high cachet plus there are current expenses, the study, editing the cameraman and pay the percentages to any agencies ... if I invest 2300/2500€ and earn 2500 or 2700$ there is no profit, even if I do 3000$ it is lower... I never lost last year even with the actress who sells less, unfortunately we do not have a guarantee and I do not know if someone has facilities because if I do a scene with more actors I lose money I have already tried lately 4 times and I made a ridiculous profit, we have many great ideas that we would like to realize but we should have at least a minimum of fixed earnings on exclusive scenes for us studios, and above all collaborate with each other studies instead of making us problems ... Problems that arise from the little gain

[PAFstudio]

Guys I want to be honest, if it were up to us we will put the scenes even at $ 1 with all the views that make the scenes and for the quality we offer we should earn a lot ... I had tried last year to put a scene at a low price and we almost lost the money, and in fact the support told us if you put the scenes at too low a price you will have a low profit ... now imagine if until last year we were earning well and now we have problems ... if I put a scene at a low price I make it as a hobby, and unfortunately I think that only some have this problem ... I hope instead that a collaboration will be created between all the studios, and help in swapping actresses or doing scenes in collaboration for the pleasure of you fans, instead of getting into a bad situation

[avanfurwet]

I think we all do appreciate the feedback from producers including PAF and Florane.

To the producers, I would just say, you are preaching to the choir here. Your customers are not your enemies. Fans who choose to be paying customers here, want the studios to make a fair profit and reward for risk. We understand that studios risk their capital to invest in shooting scenes before making any sales. Nobody here wants studios to sell their scenes at a loss.

But we customers don't understand why studios suddenly need to charge us 35% more for the same product.

If studios are complaining that their sales went down by 40%, then we customers don't understand why.

Maybe sales are down 40% because the studios raised their prices by 35%?

I find it hard to imagine that adding new content sellers to the Pornbox platform is just cannibalising a fixed pool of customers as Florane suggested.

Surely the wider range of content sellers is attracting more surfers to the platform? And more surfers means more views and more potential customers? Surely that is the same with XVideos Red, or OF, Sheer or any other sales platform? Your products compete for space on the supermarket shelf and the most popular brands get the best positions.

[PAFstudio]

I think we all do appreciate the feedback from producers including PAF and Florane.

To the producers, I would just say, you are preaching to the choir here. Your customers are not your enemies. Fans who choose to be paying customers here, want the studios to make a fair profit and reward for risk. We understand that studios risk their capital to invest in shooting scenes before making any sales. Nobody here wants studios to sell their scenes at a loss.

But we customers don't understand why studios suddenly need to charge us 35% more for the same product.

If studios are complaining that their sales went down by 40%, then we customers don't understand why.

Maybe sales are down 40% because the studios raised their prices by 35%?

I find it hard to imagine that adding new content sellers to the Pornbox platform is just cannibalising a fixed pool of customers as Florane suggested.

Surely the wider range of content sellers is attracting more surfers to the platform? And more surfers means more views and more potential customers? Surely that is the same with XVideos Red, or OF, Sheer or any other sales platform? Your products compete for space on the supermarket shelf and the most popular brands get the best positions.

No you sell them

No Earnings have declined since after January before the tiket change... I do not know how many people and who buys the scenes so I can not know if the sales are the same or different, I and other studies have a change in valuations, I could not give you even A real explanation, but believe me as others will have told you if we lower the prices we lose money ... Instead until January this does not happen or in any case we left the same prices and waded all well,If we bring the same price of tiket, I and others I spoke to go at a loss and we still have a lower valuation than before...is all strange for us

[YumYum74]

I don’t have the answers, but clearly the price hike has not solved anything for especially smaller studios like PAF, considering the blowback from us customers. Not to mention also several statements made by different studios here on the forum that show confusion and worry in their wording. Seems to be becoming an unstustainable situation at this rate.