Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[Panorama]

Welcome back Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p I'm already using similar examples to warn models but I've included some of your links now also. I'm still being compounded by models that will not talk. It's frustrating because they will not come out and sing Woodman's praises which they are doing about other producers, they just won't talk to me about Woodman. I managed to get one of his past models to talk about her experiences in the porn industry in general but every time I tried to get her to speak about him specifically, she would talk about her experience in the third person, as if she were referring to someone else or a situation in general and didn't want to talk about it. It was a conversation of riddles and averted questions. SO FRUSTRATING!
I've emailed one of his failed attempts from the early 2000s' to see if I can find out how she escaped him, but I'm not holding out. I'm pretty busy at work this week so I've slowed a little on my attempts to contact models but feel that if they don't step up and start speaking out all my efforts have only spared 4 women and that really pushes my buttons because I know to my core that Woodman is a wrong one.

But anyway: If you put something on pre-sale you'd eventually have to come up with the goods.

But If you blame a lack of subscriptions you don't. Nice one Pierre.

[robin_reid]

New page. New reminder.

PIERRE ANDRE NICOLAS GERBIER'S (PIERRE WOODMAN'S)' - HIGH PRESSURE TACTICS

1.
Durch die Nacht (starting @22:22)
The reporter was really sarcastic throughout the interview and didn't take this clown serious. Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) didn't even realized it.
Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXjH3Ij6frU

[*]23:35: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "In my castings I try to convince girls every day to do things they don't want to do, for example because she has a boyfriend." He tells the viewer he basically uses high pressure tactics often for hours and hours until the girl succumbs. This happens 300 times a year.
[*]24:18 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) tells about performing a regularly used scam after hours of high pressure tactics by pressuring a girl into taking his dirty fingers up the ass and saying to them that if they like this special Chinese finger tactic, they must do what he wants.
[*]24:52: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) tells the viewer about the high pressure tactics in dark hotel rooms where his castings take place and which high pressure tactics frequently last 5 hours or longer. Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman):"Girl says no, no, no 5 hours ago, then a maybe after a couple of hours, and finally a yes after more hours have passed."And this is how it works".
[*]26:38: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "I'm so lucky that my grandfather learned me about anal sex tactics (when I was a child at 7 years old)."
[*]27:44: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "Every month I disturb the mind of some girl who has a big love story, who is very happy with her husband/boyfriend."
[*]29:14: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "My philosophy is to break the mind of the girl. When I fight with a girl and she says No, No, No and I say yes, yes, yes. So after a moment when I feel that the girl is like a wall and I cannot break then of course I'm upset."
[*]29:43 Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) tells the viewer about one of his high pressure tactics in order to break the will of the girl by scamming a girl into sucking shit of his finger which got there from a casting he did before. He then tells the girl afterwards that she is a fucking retard because she does not know what she is doing. "Many girl then cry." He tells the viewer that he has many high pressure tactics like that. "I have 10 to 20 games like that."
[*]31:09: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "I am a bastard because I break the will of the girls. It's my philosophy to destroy their mind and get them to do everything I want."
[*]32:02: Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "You have to use the weakness of society to break the will of the girls."


2.
Josephine Jackson about pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "I didn't understand I could say NO! It was an horrible experience!"
Video: http://imgur.com/a/kUiTGZS

3.
Pierre andre nicolas gernier (pierre woodman): "My grandfather told me secrets about anal sex when I was only 7 years old."
Louis Theroux can't believe what sick stuff he is hearing. Model can't believe what she is hearing either.

Video: http://imgur.com/a/f5unvXH (click on icon in right top corner for the audio).

4.
Look at the ARROGANCE on this man's face in this documentary by the BBC when he talks about the hidden camera's so goddamn proudly with louis theroux. That disgusting smirk on his face.
In other words, Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) thinks he's too smart for #metoo:
Video: http://imgur.com/a/UdoGaHJ

5.
What does this lobotomized individual named pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman) do? He shares the camera footage about the high pressure tactics in the hotel room with Serenity Haze. What a dumbass.

Video: https://streamable.com/vdsn40
Serenity Haze: "it hurts and burns." NO!

Take a look at the arrogant face of this man when she's telling him NO! Simply disgusting!

Ladies and gentleman, is this a safe environment for girls to be in?????

Pierre andre nicolas gerbier's (pierre woodman's) answer about her leaving the fuck out of the hotel room after the NO: "It's not the way to make the business mademoiselle".
Victim blaming right there!

The footage show EXACTLY what models have to endure when being in the hotel room with this horrible intimidating and manipulative "professional" producer who uses HIGH PRESSURE TACTICS (like louis theroux says) to pressure girls into doing things they don't want to do!

6.
Full segment of Pierre Woodman from the recent BBC documentary by louis theroux:
Video: https://streamable.com/rvsutf

The contempt on Louis Theroux's face throughout the documentary and the arrogance of pierre andre nicolas gerbier with his hands behind his fucking head. It says it all!!!!!

[*]2:49 louis theroux: "what I saw was you attempting to negotiate with her and she experiences that as a kind of abuse. That is a result of your working practices colliding with her needs.
[*]pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): bull shit story without answering the question. Then saying Serenity Haze was a "stupid idiot."
[*]4:03: louis theroux: "You accept the characterization of you that you use high pressure tactics. For example having sex with a woman on camera and then during the sex act say why don't we do a dp? The more accepted practice would be to decide all of that beforehand."
Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "why?!"
Louis theroux: "So that your not moving the agreements_______??" (can somebody hear what word louis theroux exactly said?)
Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "Who says that?!"
Louis theroux: "Well, all the performers that I've spoken to. They say that before you start all should be cleared and in the middle of the sex you don't say for example I come inside you even though that's not what you agreed."
[*]5:17: louis theroux: "Giving everything that is going on, e.g #metoo. People demand more clarity about what is being agreed to. Have or will you change your practices (high pressure tactics)"
Pierre andre nicolas gerbier (pierre woodman): "You want me to change something that I do since 30 years?! I consider that if a girl is 18 years old she do whatever she wants. I don't put a gun on her head." Not realizing that he mentally coerces young girls....

Louis theroux's closing words: "The encounter with serenity haze and everything that went wrong with it encapsulated the issue with pierre's working practices but it was also a symptomatic of a more pervasive tension in the adult industry: a world where the quiestionable behaviors that exist in all walks of life coincide with a work place involving extreme sex and where an unjustified stigma has meant that the voices of its workers haven't always been heard.

PEOPLE: if you can post this on Youtube and social media ([spam], [spam], facebook, vk) in order to make it viral. Share it with models, agencies and journalists if you can!

With such statements admitting himself to be a women abuser, he should already be blacklisted from this biz and in jail since years ago, as should his crew and certain agents who have covered up and collaborated with him. In the US it would be. But this is Hungary...

[BlueShadow]

"You would probably be upset"?
These idiots empowering him, as if models are accountable to an amateur producer for what they do or don't do in their careers and who they work with.





Promises? She (like any girl) doesn't owe him nothing.

[BlueShadow]

As usual he likes to talk...in fact this is one of the tactics...he knows very well that most of the girls he sent there have very little chance of making a career, so with some he pushes them over the limits, (maybe he tells them the usual things, to do anal there, and not to do any more soon so she has a better career, to try to do anal there, so she will be ready if in the future she wants to do it etc.) when he knows very well that 90% of them will never do it again, because they will be out of the industry in a few months (some even days).
And that's also why he doesn't have the problems that he DESERVES, because these girls are alreasy out of the industry.





And that's exactly why he coerced her into doing ''scenes'' for his site, because she looks too young, right? I bet it wasn't a problem in that case...

[Panorama]

With such statements admitting himself to be a women abuser, he should already be blacklisted from this biz and in jail since years ago, as should his crew and certain agents who have covered up and collaborated with him. In the US it would be. But this is Hungary...

That's a fact Robin. Pierre claims he is a happily free man but in actual fact, he most certainly isn't. I would like to bet that Hungary is the only country he is safe in (for the moment) and that's probably because he has given backhanders and possibly supplied young women to "certain people" in the right places. That's why he never answered that specific question when I asked it several months ago. I suspect other countries might want to have a word with him also should he ever darken their doors again for filming and producing pornographic content illegally. So, although at the moment nothing can "apparently" be done about him (save for the industry to do something drastic) it's good to know that he can only operate out of Hungary while the rest of us can travel the world without having to constantly look over our backs.

And that's exactly why he coerced her into doing ''scenes'' for his site, because she looks too young, right? I bet it wasn't a problem in that case...

That's always creeped me out about Woodman Blue. Brenda although 22 is 4ft 8in (1,47m) and looks like a 10-year-old. If you look at her on Indexx.com you can see she's only completed work for Woodman in a whole year. That is not only a testament to Woodman's appalling judgment in thinking that a model who looks like a pre-teen is going to have a big career, but also puts a spotlight on the darker side of his character. The fact that he can have sex with someone who appears so physically like a pre-teenage GIRL is just mind-boggling, and again highlights the fact discussed above with Robin about how the porn industry TODAY can sanction such producers. (On a side note: Even people visiting the Indexx site know the score!!)

[robin_reid]

It is no coincidence that all these young hungarian girls recruited by his shady partner and sent straight to him, then all them quit porn after a few hotel room “shootings” with this bastard that break the will of girls…

[Visionary_sight]

Woodman has the Midas touch. A sinister touch.

[Simi1101]

Woodman has the Midas touch. A sinister touch.

That analogy does not work.
Everything that King Midas touched turned to gold.
Woodman is the exact opposite.
Anything he touches turns into shit.

[ValenciaCF]

He is a big thief too. He reduce his footage and asks his members to subscribe but then he give them incomplete footage.They habe calles him out on this and he laughs They use their tolens to buy this scene and then the thief release the full scene after. So in other words they must pay again tokens to see the extra 4minutes he cut out
What a shady bastard lololol

[Panorama]

Ah, Pierre,

You really have got to stop inventing these characters that pop up on your site to create a situation so you can then answer my criticism of you yourself! We all know, (everybody here, everybody on all the other forums including comments on Indexxx, and the 149 members on your site) that you always read this forum because you HAVE to know what we are saying about you. This is the only forum where people CAN say and read what they want about you without any interference or manipulation from you. I am always checking your forum because it not only provides a never-ending supply of information for me, but I like to be able to read about your complete and utter detachment from reality.
Take your last post in the "I love my haters" thread. You invented "jonymos" so that you could answer everything that I "suggested" yesterday in my post above. Why do that? It's ridiculous that you would do that, just answer me, or any of the other members directly and stop making yourself look like a fool. At least use a different nationality gods sake!!

Anyway, just to answer a few of the niggles you have with what I said. Although I'm probably the only one who hasn't actually accused you of rape you seem to have gotten it into your head that I have. But did you know that you (theoretically) could have "been accused of rape" in another country and still be a free man in another? Well, you can. You'll only have trouble if you try to enter that country where the accusation occurred again. . . . . Say The United States for example. It's the same with shooting porn in a country that forbids it. You might be a free man there in Hungary, but if you went back to that country you might end up in trouble. That conveniently leads me on to my next point. You say we hide behind a keyboard and use "fake nicknames" to accuse you because we're cowards, yet you hide your website from people in Eastern Europe because you don't want to get caught sodomizing young women and run the risk of some model's boyfriend/husband/father seeing what you did. They would use your head like an anvil. And don't give me that "I do it for the model's protection" because we've all seen what "your protection" is like. (See: Virginy Lovely)
Your name isn't even Pierre Woodman, your name is Pierre Gerbier so who's using a nickname then?
I would have absolutely no problem meeting you and telling you EXACTLY what I thought about you, I offered to meet you a few months ago in Cairo (neutral ground) and if you would like I'll make that offer again. Cairo will be easier for you to get to living closer but I don't mind. However, I don't think you'd take me up on that offer for reasons we both know about. Have you ever heard about what they do to latent homosexuals in Al-Aqrab prison? Especially foreign ones????
Let's see who the "coward" is... Come on I dare you to meet me in Cairo.
On a lighter note though, I've been talking with many models over the last few years and as far as I've been able to see only BRILLBABES are sending you models, so I don't know where you are getting this "trust between serious agencies" from because all the non BRILLBABES models have told me that their agencies won't send any of them to you because of "issues". You tell me what that means Pierre I'm not in the porn business.

So to summarise. (1) Stop lying. (2) Stop giving false information. (3) Stop saying things that only exist in Pierre's world.

Oh, and (4) Stop making up characters, and if you do at least make them convincing!!

[ValenciaCF]

He is a rapist!!! When a girl says 'NO' and that she is afraid and you still proceed to slap her and make her feel fear enough for her to agree with doing something you push her to do against her wishes....then it is rape!!! You don't have to physically beat a girl. He can pretend about his security camera all he wants. He uses aggressive fear tactics to intimidate girls into doing all the disgusting things he wants. He is very manipulative and will state that the girl is happy and smiling to justify that what he did was not out of bounds. But the girl is forced to play along out of fear. Go look at Lili Charmelles casting - the girl clearly tells him she did not want his piss and that she was "AFRAID" - but what does PW do???He never respect her wishes and slaps her, her face quickly changes our of fear and suddenlyshe agrees to take his piss because he start to verbally intimidate her and slap her! He is a fucking sick, digusting monster trying to fool everyone that what he does is 100% justified. Girls who cry during ssx is normal for him. Slapping and beating them to make marks on theor body is normal for him. Then he blackmails amd threatens them to send nice messages to cover his ugly,hairy despicable ass.Fucking rapist. Rot in hell!

[robin_reid]

He is a rapist!!!

A serial rapist.

[Visionary_sight]

Woodman has the Midas touch. A sinister touch.

That analogy does not work.
Everything that King Midas touched turned to gold.
Woodman is the exact opposite.
Anything he touches turns into shit.

That was what I was trying to represent. Every model he comes across he appears to have a rotten sinister touch that repels them from ever working in the industry again, not only that but they end up most likely being traumatised and left confused with what happened during their exchange in whatever crappy murky hotel they resided in.

The myth of Midas itself was a tale of greed. The king ended up turning his daughter into gold. He got lucky when he got a reprieve and learned his lesson. However, with Woodman he needs to be locked away for anything similar to occur in terms of morality.

[ValenciaCF]

It's becoming more and more obvious his hatred and jealousy for his competition. Remember when he said Sandra Blue quit porn??? He was feeling scum when he found out he was wrong and she went to his competitor who he started a campaign against. He looks really dumb now and he make nice photoshop...

[ValenciaCF]

And it's funny because he speaks so much lies that girls are complaining about JulsModel agency when the truth is he cannot stand them being more successful than him when top girls like Marie Berger and Lika Star are doing their first anal and DPs for them and he is so angry because he can't get his hands on them so he must create lies about them and write on his forum that Julsmodels is bad. I don't see them writing shit about Woodman om their forum. It tells you what kind of bitter, jealous man he is. It's laughable and then he gets angry when people speak bad about him to create bad publicity but he does it to others. Such a hypocrite he is.Same thing he accuses other people of doing is what he does himself. No wonder nobody wants to be his friend and all the so called friends he did have in the past, they don't want to associate with this bitter old fool anymore.

Woodman...you are a sad, sad, old man who is jealous with rage. Why you always throw shade at your competitors. You just show the world how jealous you really are. And btw, what you say is all lies, you telling that this agency is bad is only coming directly from your mouth, not from these girls....Nobody can see them complaining. They are happy. They go to parties with the Julsmodels and you are not invited to it but you want to be a part off it , everyone knows! But you on the other hand, everyone complains about YOU! Take your lies and shove it up your hairy ass!

[ValenciaCF]

I challenge Woodman to create a list of all girls who complained about Julsmodels and we will see who is lying. Because I guarantee him I can give him a list of all girls who complained about him. So he should really shut his mouth because he's talking nonsense.

[ValenciaCF]

Notice how he photoshopped the text for Sandra Blue when he discovered the girl had told him before that she wasn't doing porn, but she actually did with his competitor the Disciples of desire who he hate so much, so he changed the words so people wouldn't know. Too bad, they do now.

[BlueShadow]

100% sure that if JM kept sending him all the new models there first he would not have said these words. His biased words are worthless.
Then he talks about how the others behave... do I have to remember how this "producer" behaves with the agencies instead, pressing the girls even if the agency expressly says to do no more than one interview? His words as always, easily demonstrable as already done several times.
But well, maybe he always behaved good, so he has the right to judge/speak about the behave of others in the industry...


PS
I know it still burns him...after all, he needed JM and their models more than JM needed him for sure.

[BlueShadow]

It's becoming more and more obvious his hatred and jealousy for his competition. Remember when he said Sandra Blue quit porn??? He was feeling scum when he found out he was wrong and she went to his competitor who he started a campaign against. He looks really dumb now and he make nice photoshop...

He say "possibile". Possibile? It's true. Like it's true that he is a clown.

Btw he jeep thanks Brillbabes...still waiting for those retweet from his great partners at BB.
But still nothing until now, maybe one day...c'mon don't be ashamed, they are not ashamed to takes his money and they are ashamed of a retweet?
Or at least a reply with " you are welcome", since he always thanks them after all...

[BlueShadow]

And it's funny because he speaks so much lies that girls are complaining about JulsModel agency when the truth is he cannot stand them being more successful than him when top girls like Marie Berger and Lika Star are doing their first anal and DPs for them and he is so angry because he can't get his hands on them so he must create lies about them and write on his forum that Julsmodels is bad. I don't see them writing shit about Woodman om their forum. It tells you what kind of bitter, jealous man he is. It's laughable and then he gets angry when people speak bad about him to create bad publicity but he does it to others. Such a hypocrite he is.Same thing he accuses other people of doing is what he does himself. No wonder nobody wants to be his friend and all the so called friends he did have in the past, they don't want to associate with this bitter old fool anymore.

Woodman...you are a sad, sad, old man who is jealous with rage. Why you always throw shade at your competitors. You just show the world how jealous you really are. And btw, what you say is all lies, you telling that this agency is bad is only coming directly from your mouth, not from these girls....Nobody can see them complaining. They are happy. They go to parties with the Julsmodels and you are not invited to it but you want to be a part off it , everyone knows! But you on the other hand, everyone complains about YOU! Take your lies and shove it up your hairy ass!

He complains about others speaking bad of him, but he does the same on his forum, spreading hate and bashing models, producers, agency etc.
When he will starts posting positivity (he says he has a great life etc. So it should not be difficult), and when he stops bashing others maybe we will too.
But we know he has to... He is a pathological narcissist.

[BlueShadow]

He is a big thief too. He reduce his footage and asks his members to subscribe but then he give them incomplete footage.They habe calles him out on this and he laughs They use their tolens to buy this scene and then the thief release the full scene after. So in other words they must pay again tokens to see the extra 4minutes he cut out
What a shady bastard lololol

Yep, always the same shit. Just teasing...
then what it shows does not appear in the video they buy, it is updated ''after'', if he remember , to fool piracy, but in reality the only ones who fool are those who pay, ( the reality is that makes fake advertisement, shows things that are not actually in the video that sells at the beginning) and members do not even notice (and can not) that the scenes they have already seen (butchered) are updated. Definitely anything but user friendly.

Also here for example, this part in the image image he put on the forum is not there in the Maria Wars 'scene' and the members so blind that they don't even notice. Maybe he didn't update it because I already revealed in advance what the plans were and the usual fairy-tales story he made up:

[ValenciaCF]

So now he found a 'New girl' and welcomes to porn. Jade Nedon

Now let me tell you about this bullshit. This girl is going to disappear as quickly as she came because she is not pornstar but one of his shady side business quests like the rest of the girls who come and go. Funny she don't have social media. He tagged Brillbabes but it's all a lie. Surprise surprise Brillbabes never tweeted this nee girl because they don't want to be linked to this 'business' obviously he paid them extra to tag them to make it seem this girl is legit pornstar but we know the truth she is not part of the agemcy, certainly not porn agency maybe some other kind
Pornstar my ass

[robin_reid]

This girl has not started in the porn industry as he says, that will be the day she debuts for a real brand in this industry and not what she did for an old fart recording himself with a handycam in a cheap hotel room. Better let’s say; “started first escort experience” (even if she is not aware of that)

[OKCTwister]

Bless you Pierre Woodman you genuinely are the king of hardcore porn direction
Baby Kxtten double vaginal + anal triple penetration and double BJ
Only an old legendary Kelly Wells has been able to turn me so hard and burned such smoking hot scene in my memory

[BlueShadow]

Bless you Pierre Woodman you genuinely are the king of hardcore porn direction
Baby Kxtten double vaginal + anal triple penetration and double BJ
Only an old legendary Kelly Wells has been able to turn me so hard and burned such smoking hot scene in my memory

Screenshot 2022-04-30 035447.jpg

And from LP studios. Trained well.
But "the king of hardcore" say that girls that do scene for PB/AV are not good reference for him... and that no one will offer more job to them. But as we can see it's not true of course.
He also booked Mensia Francis, already appeared on LP (how many models already appeared on LP he has booked in these first 4 months of 2022? I didn't count... Last year at least 20 for sure). Another good reference it seems...despite what he say, but what he say really worth something?

[Visionary_sight]

Bless you Pierre Woodman you genuinely are the king of hardcore porn direction
Baby Kxtten double vaginal + anal triple penetration and double BJ
Only an old legendary Kelly Wells has been able to turn me so hard and burned such smoking hot scene in my memory

Screenshot 2022-04-30 035447.jpg

This thread is about Woodman and his questionable practices, yet, randomly you post a comment praising Woodman for producing another shoddy murky scene. Everyone has different tastes. But your post seems out of place considering the context on here.

[ValenciaCF]

Well atleast over here people don't get booted from forum because of jealous comments about competitors
We know PW boots membets the moment he see a nice comment about LP. So fragile his ego and manhood.

About Mencia Francis...PW is a lovesick fool now saying she is the prettiest girl ever. She's not one of your disciveries and she was posted there on his forum last year and he never said anything. But we all know LP is a bad reference for him. Just so he knows she started with LP and already took it in her ass what special footage is he going to show them??? Stale producer doing repeat copy work who yakes girls from LP

B O R I N G!!!

[ValenciaCF]

When is this 'Blarit' character going to realize that Laura Orsolya does not want to shoot with an amateur like PW. He can post selfies with her but she has no intention of ever working for him. She has no problem making porn with other stars, but never with Woodman. Why???? bevause they are friends hahaha he tried so hard and he couldn't get it. Now he posts selfies of her to soften the blow. Stop begging your master. You can do much better elsewhere. All he know to do is cut and edit scenes and give you unfinished products. Yake your money sonewhere elsr because he only screwing you, not the pirates!

[Panorama]

This thread is about Woodman and his questionable practices, yet, randomly you post a comment praising Woodman for producing another shoddy murky scene. Everyone has different tastes. But your post seems out of place considering the context on here.

Yes true Visionary it is probably the only post in 74 pages that praises Woodman. OKCT probably posted that to get a reaction or he might actually admire Woodman. The point is that on this forum you can say things against what the rest of us think and live to post another day. Not only have I openly criticized WGCZ (or whatever it's called) about things but I've also appeared to stand up for Woodman on occasion if I thought necessary. None of my posts has been altered or deleted and I've not been booted for my comments. That's what makes this forum different to Woodmans and it should always be that way. I have a certain amount of admiration for the man and would love to admire his achievements more, I'm on record saying that and have no hang-ups saying it. However, I'm unable to admire him like I would like to because of all the undeniably bad things that this man has done in his life. Thing's that he could have achieved being honest and trustworthy were instead gained by lies and manipulation, I cannot admire a man like that.
All of us have a different view of the character that is Pierre Woodman, although the general consensus is that we can't stand the man my view of him is different to Valencia's and Valencia's view is different from Robin's. The beauty of it is that anyone reading our posts can either agree with one of us, agree with all of us or as OKCT showed can completely disagree with us also!

[Visionary_sight]

This thread is about Woodman and his questionable practices, yet, randomly you post a comment praising Woodman for producing another shoddy murky scene. Everyone has different tastes. But your post seems out of place considering the context on here.

Yes true Visionary it is probably the only post in 74 pages that praises Woodman. OKCT probably posted that to get a reaction or he might actually admire Woodman. The point is that on this forum you can say things against what the rest of us think and live to post another day. Not only have I openly criticized WGCZ (or whatever it's called) about things but I've also appeared to stand up for Woodman on occasion if I thought necessary. None of my posts has been altered or deleted and I've not been booted for my comments. That's what makes this forum different to Woodmans and it should always be that way. I have a certain amount of admiration for the man and would love to admire his achievements more, I'm on record saying that and have no hang-ups saying it. However, I'm unable to admire him like I would like to because of all the undeniably bad things that this man has done in his life. Thing's that he could have achieved being honest and trustworthy were instead gained by lies and manipulation, I cannot admire a man like that.
All of us have a different view of the character that is Pierre Woodman, although the general consensus is that we can't stand the man my view of him is different to Valencia's and Valencia's view is different from Robin's. The beauty of it is that anyone reading our posts can either agree with one of us, agree with all of us or as OKCT showed can completely disagree with us also!

I agree. Just thought it was bit of an anomaly considering this thread is largely an analysis of Woodman’s controversial practices. It’s a good thing people can share whatever viewpoint on here and not get booted out unlike elsewhere.

[BlueShadow]

But what? ...Sure sure, she wasn't there for a shooting, she wasnt' there for money, they never talked about money. She was there randomly, not for work...
"""honestly"""

[BlueShadow]

I agree. Just thought it was bit of an anomaly considering this thread is largely an analysis of Woodman’s controversial practices. It’s a good thing people can share whatever viewpoint on here and not get booted out unlike elsewhere.

In fact better like this, a discussion is the basis of a forum. Don't immediately ban if one has a different opinion.
In that specific post there was a chance to point out that what Woodman says about models that do a lot of anal, working/appearing on LP/AV and not being successful afterwards is bullshit. He proves it himself by also continuing to book them himself. And isn't something you can deny.

[robin_reid]

I agree. Just thought it was bit of an anomaly considering this thread is largely an analysis of Woodman’s controversial practices. It’s a good thing people can share whatever viewpoint on here and not get booted out unlike elsewhere.

In fact better like this, a discussion is the basis of a forum. Don't immediately ban if one has a different opinion.
In that specific post there was a chance to point out that what Woodman says about models that do a lot of anal, working/appearing on LP/AV and not being successful afterwards is bullshit. He proves it himself by also continuing to book them himself. And isn't something you can deny.

If we count that in Europe WGCZ owns/distribute and high percentaje of porn estudios/porn labels and that the competitors don’t give a damm what a model did shot before, if stucked 3 dicks in the ass or wathever for whoever, we can clearly see that, as always, what this bastard liar tell to the models and in his forum is pure bullshit because even himself is booking models that previously did shoot hardcore stuff for AV studios.

[ValenciaCF]

Well I think it's clear we finally find out who his real pimp is. It can't be Ricardo because PW fired him. It's his make up assistant Gabriella. Somebody please tell me what this is if not for escort business? Or is he lying?

Now please tell me anyone,how does a make up assistant organise a birthday surpise fuck with 3 girls for PW without him knowing??? Is she paying Brillbabes to book the girls without his knowledge? Which would be against protocol and one consider this as escorts being paid for this kind of service instead of a porn shooting orgsnised by PW himself. So how is Gabriella allowed to book these girls?Or is he lying that he was unaware about it just to create hype that he fucked this girls without paying a single dime?
My gut says that he is lying since he was suppose to book Lili Charmelle this month anyway, and now he wants to act all surprised for his birthday. Like seriously grow a fucking pair and atleast be honest with your members. Constantly telling crazy storeies and lies to make yourself look good to your members. He paid a lot of money for this girls. It's that simple

[Panorama]

Yes, I think you're spot on Valencia. There can be no way that Pierre didn't have a clue about this shoot, if it were true he would be basically saying that Gabriella is a madam and is pimping girls for him aided by and complicit with Brillbabes.
But then saying that. As we know Woodman isn't averse to hanging Gabrialla out to dry as he's done it before. And of course, he's operating out of Hungary so ANYTHING could be possible for the right price. "Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p" has always been a big advocator of the fact that Gabriella's hands are just as dirty as Woodman's so maybe she really is the power behind the throne? I've always thought that Woodman is the king of his castle but what if it is actually Gabriella who is the queen? Is the "Woodman" character just being used as a puppet to front her international escort business?

Of course, that thought goes way out into the realm of fantasy because the most likely reason for this shoot was that it was planned weeks or months in advance by Woodman himself and fed to his gullible members as a complete surprise.

On a side note: Does anyone know of any models who have previously never done anal then gone on to be interviewed on camera later on in their careers saying that Woodman's "special system" enhanced their experience of anal sex? I've looked everywhere for someone to say this on camera but can't find any that actually named him. In fact, I've not been able to find anyone who said that he furthered their careers at all!

[BlueShadow]

For some he has furthered their careers in "escorting" for sure ...

[robin_reid]

According to Ricardo that knows him better than anyone else, he organise the girls to do escort for rich people sponsors of him, business runned in the background by his wife. On the first pages of this thread there are some pics from Dubai escort parties

[BlueShadow]

Well I think it's clear we finally find out who his real pimp is. It can't be Ricardo because PW fired him. It's his make up assistant Gabriella. Somebody please tell me what this is if not for escort business? Or is he lying?

Now please tell me anyone,how does a make up assistant organise a birthday surpise fuck with 3 girls for PW without him knowing??? Is she paying Brillbabes to book the girls without his knowledge? Which would be against protocol and one consider this as escorts being paid for this kind of service instead of a porn shooting orgsnised by PW himself. So how is Gabriella allowed to book these girls?Or is he lying that he was unaware about it just to create hype that he fucked this girls without paying a single dime?
My gut says that he is lying since he was suppose to book Lili Charmelle this month anyway, and now he wants to act all surprised for his birthday. Like seriously grow a fucking pair and atleast be honest with your members. Constantly telling crazy storeies and lies to make yourself look good to your members. He paid a lot of money for this girls. It's that simple

well, I'm confident that at least half of the members (and those who read that forum and the crap he says on TW) know it's all staged, but they pretend they don't so as not to break the ''fantasy''.
Also because if it were true, to book 3 girls just to make a ''surprise gift'' to a ''friend'' is called escorting service not porn.
If I were the Brillbabes agency I would pay attention to what PW says on his forum and on TW... (and the image he gives to these girls that work with BB, but not surprisingly they never retweets him, at least...)

[ValenciaCF]

On a side note: Does anyone know of any models who have previously never done anal then gone on to be interviewed on camera later on in their careers saying that Woodman's "special system" enhanced their experience of anal sex? I've looked everywhere for someone to say this on camera but can't find any that actually named him. In fact, I've not been able to find anyone who said that he furthered their careers at all!

My friend, there is no special anal system, infact, a girl told me yesterday what I already knew because she told it to me before many times and workes with him actually not very lomg ago now, that the anal is easy job for her because Pierre's cock is small. There is no special feeling or system I hope he's reading this and his strong man feelings are hurt. Nobody to stroke his ego except himself telling lies on his forum about his imaginary system that girls like.

[ValenciaCF]

Btw...wouldn't you guys say something fishy is going on here with this Mensia Francis girl???
He releases her interview today and already tells them the full casting will be online. I find this really strange considering his members are begging him to release other scenes for the past 10 years which fall on deaf years, yet nobody asked for this and he is already updating it on the same day.How strange where his priorities lie. I hope they realise that PW is full of lies and excuses.In the end he is only pissing off his own members. Surely they should demand an answer from him. He must have some ulterior motive