DPraved wrote:I agree! AnalVids style in virtual reality would be spectacular. I guess camera movement would make you quite motion sick, but I would definitely be willing to try it.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?
Starrio wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?
I use a 120 inch projector screen with a side by side stereoscopic 3D projector.
I honestly believe 3D is a much better experience than 4K, and the projector does both.
The problem is that 3D porn doesn't exist anymore since 2013.
However I still cherish my collection of 3D porn videos from the era.
What I have is mostly Russian studios stuff ala Giorgio's Lab. I would still be subscribed, but those sites no longer exist.
It would be amazing if that format was still available, but the market for it is small.
It is sad indeed, but at least we have VR now, which is a huge market, and growing.
For VR I have the Oculus Quest 2. I bought it at launch and it has been solid. I have been watching VR stuff since the days of the Samsung Gear VR in 2015.
For VR there is a lot of great content nowadays, however anal is definitely lacking in that format.
In terms of sites, I am permanently subscribed to Virtual Taboo VR, and Dark Room VR.
Starrio wrote:About resolution 7K VR and 8K VR is pretty standard now, anything below that feels too old by now. But there have been great 4K, 5K, and 6K releases in the past.
However must people expect at least 7K nowadays. Once you get spoiled with the higher resolutions, it is just too hard to go back.
It would be awesome to have some Russian studios doing anal VR stuff, or Czech studios too, but it is mostly pussy stuff what you find, with just some anal here and there.
Pboxer88 wrote:To piggy back on the above Giorgio, 3d porn I'm sure was cool but is dead and will stay that way.
Pboxer88 wrote:No I get it. I mean I'm sure it was amazing. I just wanted to make sure Giorgio studio understood the distinction because they phrased their question kind of oddly. VR is here to stay, it's not really comparable to the 3d movement in terms of scope, because 3d was truly more of a fad while VR is a large scale format change in multiple industries for multiple purposes.
Starrio wrote:Pboxer88 wrote:No I get it. I mean I'm sure it was amazing. I just wanted to make sure Giorgio studio understood the distinction because they phrased their question kind of oddly. VR is here to stay, it's not really comparable to the 3d movement in terms of scope, because 3d was truly more of a fad while VR is a large scale format change in multiple industries for multiple purposes.
3D is still huge in China, but it pretty much died everywhere else, basically everyone moved to VR.
Hopefully we'll get some AR in the future. AR can be more impressive than VR because it is mixed with your own reality.
AR would then be the equivalent of 3D, just a modern version of it. In a way VR is 3D as well, but just with a gyroscope and an accelerometer instead.
Sadly AR is still far away in terms of being widely available to the public. But hopefully this will change in the near future.
VR is already mainstream though, and growing.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Starrio wrote:Pboxer88 wrote:No I get it. I mean I'm sure it was amazing. I just wanted to make sure Giorgio studio understood the distinction because they phrased their question kind of oddly. VR is here to stay, it's not really comparable to the 3d movement in terms of scope, because 3d was truly more of a fad while VR is a large scale format change in multiple industries for multiple purposes.
3D is still huge in China, but it pretty much died everywhere else, basically everyone moved to VR.
Hopefully we'll get some AR in the future. AR can be more impressive than VR because it is mixed with your own reality.
AR would then be the equivalent of 3D, just a modern version of it. In a way VR is 3D as well, but just with a gyroscope and an accelerometer instead.
Sadly AR is still far away in terms of being widely available to the public. But hopefully this will change in the near future.
VR is already mainstream though, and growing.
So, do I really need to study all of this in your opinion?
Giorgio Grandi wrote:So, do I really need to study all of this in your opinion?
Starrio wrote:4K, 5K, and 6K look OK, but honestly most people will pass when better resolutions are widely available nowadays on the popular sites.
Other than that, the only other thing to consider is that most costumers are used to POV on VR, whether is American Studios like Naughty America, European Studios like Czech VR, or Japanese Studios like Idea pocket or S1 No.1 Style.
If the studio is exclusively made for VR I would say a first person approach approach is usually what people expect, similar to what you see on the fisting videos of The Wonder Toys Training Studio or the BTS style of XfreaX.
However if VR is just another format option to the regular Giorgio Grandi and Giorgio's Lab videos, then there is no need to have POV. The video can still be in third person like always, it would just be a ton of value to have the VR option available next to 4K, Full HD, and HD on your purchases.
Starrio wrote: it is basically a no brainer for the average porn consumer that likes to spend money on their porn, and those that don't have it yet will soon do considering the technology is growing exponentially.
Pboxer88 wrote:
Good point re: POV. POV is so common in VR that when a video isn't POV it's generally tagged "non POV".
That said I personally feel there's room for exploration in a Guorgio scene. I'd watch a non POV VR avids style any time, but the vantage point still has to be compelling.
If you look at the Veronica Leal blowbang video on Sexlikereal, and tinker with search you'll find they have both a POV and non POV version of the same vid.
Personally I think the latest Kate video above (blanking on last name and dont want to lose text], and the Sexlikereal Billie Star video where she is dressed as a cop are two of the closest representations so far of what Giorgio (or another LP studio) could do, and the camera is handled quite well in both for there being so many actors (5+).
Starrio wrote:Pboxer88 wrote:
Good point re: POV. POV is so common in VR that when a video isn't POV it's generally tagged "non POV".
That said I personally feel there's room for exploration in a Guorgio scene. I'd watch a non POV VR avids style any time, but the vantage point still has to be compelling.
If you look at the Veronica Leal blowbang video on Sexlikereal, and tinker with search you'll find they have both a POV and non POV version of the same vid.
Personally I think the latest Kate video above (blanking on last name and dont want to lose text], and the Sexlikereal Billie Star video where she is dressed as a cop are two of the closest representations so far of what Giorgio (or another LP studio) could do, and the camera is handled quite well in both for there being so many actors (5+).
The Wonder Toys Training Studio and XfreX are ready to go for VR, TheWonderToys is POV already, and the BTS style of XfreX videos are ideal for VR.
In terms of Giorgio Grandi and Giorgio's Lab, I feel the camera work is already there, the shots are close enough for VR already, and a little break from afar doesn't hurt the experience, which is something those studios already do. Plus if you get way too close it gets out of focus anyway.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions
Starrio wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions
Nice to hear you are trying something new. That's what makes producers stand out. Going with the times. Not staying behind. The same goes on other industries too, like TV, music, movies, etc..
Personally I feel having the option of having the videos on VR would bring more costumers with buying power to get exposed to this type of porn that we love.
Plus there is no one else doing anal stuff on VR exclusively which is definitely needed in the VR space right now.
For me I feel there is no need to change anything. Just adding the VR format to the regular videos would make them infinitely more valuable.
Like this:
Giorgio Grandi wrote:
Fell free to post me the "framing you like"
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Also, would you prefer a static camera recording on the tripod, or just a regular way to shoot (as we do now), but with a VR camera? (so with closeups and so on)
I need you guys to tell me the more you can, even details, before I go to check the content of the website you posted in the topic and make my own taste, I want to have a picture of your personal taste
Giorgio Grandi wrote:Starrio wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions
Nice to hear you are trying something new. That's what makes producers stand out. Going with the times. Not staying behind. The same goes on other industries too, like TV, music, movies, etc..
Personally I feel having the option of having the videos on VR would bring more costumers with buying power to get exposed to this type of porn that we love.
Plus there is no one else doing anal stuff on VR exclusively which is definitely needed in the VR space right now.
For me I feel there is no need to change anything. Just adding the VR format to the regular videos would make them infinitely more valuable.
Like this:
Fell free to post me the "framing you like"
-
Also, would you prefer a static camera recording on the tripod, or just a regular way to shoot (as we do now), but with a VR camera? (so with closeups and so on)
I need you guys to tell me the more you can, even details, before I go to check the content of the website you posted in the topic and make my own taste, I want to have a picture of your personal taste
Starrio wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions
Pboxer88 wrote:
In terms of filming/framing, there's a few important things:
(A) Scale: This is by far the most important thing to get right, and I think it's mostly a problem of the past, but there's still a few VR studios that get it wrong. Make sure the female actors look female size. If you go look up really old/retro Naughty America VR porn from 2016 or 2017 (their new stuff is much better), or other sites around in that early adopter VR timeframe, you'll find some videos where the female actors look like they are 8 feet tall. And I'm not referring to when they were shown standing, but rather when they were in missionary, doggy or any other position, it felt you were having sex with someone in the NBA that had tits. I think this had to do with the IPD scale or the camera technology at the time, but in either case the actors obviously need to look 5 foot - x to match their height, or if you're going to error on any side, having them look slightly smaller or petite is preferred to them looking like giants. This also has nothing to do with the zoom function. Modern VR players like Skybox paired with the Meta Quest 2 allow a nice range of zoom in and zoom out, and this did not improve the issue on the videos I'm referring to. So do what MilfVR and WankzVR (via the POVR main site) does as they get scale down just right.
(B) Standing Height: This is somewhat related to the above, but a bit different. When you're filming a girl standing, such as the beginning of a video, make sure the camera is high enough to convey proper male height. For example, you have Polly Petrova or Holly Hendrix or some really short girl, when you're taking the standing shot it should look like they're 8-12 inches shorter than you (because they are), not at eye level. Not all VR studios get this right, but many do now. Again MilfVR and WankzVR are excellent examples of those that do it well (via the POVR main site)
(C) Show the damn action. Varied camera height on action shots. This is important for both POV or non POV options. But say for example you have a MMMF, and one of your males is your ""POV dick with abs" with the other two off to the side. The "POV" male is doing anal. In this case, it's important to frame from perspective above, but also do a cut or pan to a eye level shot of the gapes, anal creampies, whatever action is going on at the penetration site for a minute or two every once in awhile. You do this naturally in your videos already, so just think of it as filming a VR version of the action as your normally do. The mistake some VR studios make is they just stay at 6 foot high level action the entire time, even when the girl is gaping or giving a good blowjob, instead of occasionally getting the camera down directly to the penetration site (whether the mouth, pussy or ass). Conclusion: Make sure the camera gets down there sometimes.
(D) Cuts versus pans. The only exception to the above where I said "do what you already do" is it might be helpful to implement a few cuts/edits to move to a new stationary positions, rather than panning around constantly with the camera. This would prevent motion sickness in those sensitive, which is quite a bit in VR. That said, most people have a certain level of tolerance as long as you're not flipping the camera around every which-way every 5 seconds. An example of how you would implement this again would be a standing anal position, followed by a cut to a lower level vantage point directly behind the girl's ass (for gaping, anal creampies, or even to get creative, for pumping away, stationed strategically below the male actor's legs, not sure if I've ever seen that latter one in VR).
(E) Cumshots Facial showers, creampies would model basic what you do now. For facial showers at the end you would just have the camera placed at a high vantage point down on the girls face, and the guys do their thing. You should still zoom in occasionally but make sure there's a minute or so at each zoom level, no rapid zoom in and outs.
(F) Since the videos mentioned in the above thread is getting long, I'll condense here. You mentioned checking out what the competition is doing, I'll summarize recommendations for a day of sampling, which will probably demonstrate everything I said above. (1) POVR - If you subscribe to this site you get the WankzVR and MilfVR content along with a ton of other sites. Both of these subsites have great scale/perspective in recent videos. (2) Sexlikereal- On this site the Veronica Leal 8 man blowbang is a must see. This video did a perfect job of eye level blowjobs. There's also a non POV version for comparison. The next must see is the Billie Star gangbang titled Blonde Big Tits Group Sex Gangbang. If I recall correctly this video is mostly in Non POV. Next, I'd type in gloryhole on the site search and watch the Verena Maxima one. (3) CzechVRNetwork - Excellent video quality, probably the gold standard just in terms of clarity and lighting. They also have some fetish videos with Ana Deville, etc. that provides some ideas on how you capture footage of the penetration site.
Pboxer88 wrote:Starrio wrote:Giorgio Grandi wrote:I see
Pls keep this topic "alive" with your suggestions
Big thumbs up. This screenshot is the perfect implementation of how a VR download option should look.
Giorgio Grandi wrote:I need to post a question to you guys.
Do you own a 3d visor and you usually purchase 3D porn?
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