Panorama wrote:Well personally, I wasn't referring to you Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p I can't speak for Viewer2, because if I'm honest I don't think you or anyone else has any evidence that Woodman would need to be worried about.
Evidence about what? I never claimed to have proof for your or your allies' allegations or any of the allegations towards Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier, which are mentioned in this specific thread. Read carefully what I wrote. I am ONLY talking about ammunition for the legal team of wgcz regarding the upcoming lawsuit which Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier filed regarding specific (not all) claims he made for which Gerbier seeks relief. Especially regarding allegations "superdad" made in order to show his family/friends (for lack of a better word) that he will fight for them. The reality is that he is a narcissist and that he has no shame to use his family/friends as a vehicle in his fight against xxx/wgcz. 100% scum.
Fact of the matter is that Gerbier had ADHD and it is funny as hell as, mentioned in this thread on multiple cases, this guy talks so much that he can't even keep up with what came and comes out of his fake-teeth filled mouth any longer. The counter-proof against his allegations are in his own words and are for the taking. That's the funny part. He digs and will dig his own grave.
Panorama wrote:If that evidence actually existed the "machines" here wouldn't need to have this thread to vent their frustration at peoples stupidity for supporting Woodman.
Again, evidence regarding what? Seriously, I could give a fuck to convince customers to not support Woodman (and neither should anybody else) It's not my money. Not anybody elses from this thread. So why being "frustrated" about what other people do with their money. To me those pathetic people are part of the cancel culture. They are trying to convince other people to cancel Woodman. It's like those pathetic
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hyena's and social justice worriors who spend their life to cancel whoever did wrong in their life. We've seen that with musicians and movie stars and all other metoo related matters in the last couple of years. BANNED FOR LIFE. Reality is that the majority of porn consumers will not give a flying fuck what somebody is accused of regarding bad behavior towards actresses. French-bukkake, Gerbied, Ron Jeremy, James Deen, Max Hardcore, Derek Hey etc. Majority of porn consumers will not all of a sudden cancel their work/models/scenes because of the allegations made against them.
Panorama wrote:As it stands NOBODY has come forward with that evidence and posted it here because like I said, it doesn't exist.
As said, I don't know what evidence you are talking about. But I do agree with you and this guy some pages ago:
Panorama wrote:I wasn't taking the piss Iddaoeeok, I was trying to explain why I post here, but if you didn't understand my explanation there's nothing much I can add to it. . . . . Although I would add, I think Woodman was a narcissist long before I started posting. I don't think you can actually turn somebody into one by simply posting about them.
Iddaoeeok wrote:I didn't say you were taking the piss, but you're right I don't understand your explanation, I mean if you're not into anal/piss etc, why were you a member of Woodman's site? What did you think his site was about? Nice pictures of pretty ladies?
What you and Blue Shadow are doing is feeding his narcissism but Blue Shadow has been given special dispensation to do so by the owners of the forum because they see it as a useful counterbalance to the crap Woodman posts about AV/LP. That's debatable, if you ask me, but it's almost like a vocation for Blue Shadow, I can't work out what you're doing here though.
You will never convince me that Woodman doesn't love all the attention, good or bad. Woodman is like Trump, nothing is ever going to happen to him, he's never going to prison, he's never going to end up penniless and broke, he's going to die peacefully and contentedly in his bed when he's 90.
**And be smart about it, why would people who have evidence about certain things mention it here in a public forum for Gerbier and his lawyers to build a case. Certain stuff is better to keep for the court where it matters. This thread is irrelevant. In the court is where people get convicted and where people get ordered to pay serious money. This forum is not a court of law. Remember that. Most of what is mentioned here by all the "machines" is chit chat about bad practices by Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier. Those messages are very necessary for people who are open to know about it, but not relevant to thwart the allegations made my Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier in the specific lawsuit I was talking about.
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Much though a really dislike Woodman I can appreciate the fact that he is far too smart (remember he used to be a copper) to be caught with something illegal. Don't get me wrong, I believe that he has VERY illegal skeletons in his closet and on his hard drives, but as long as they stay there and don't see the light of day the man is untouchable. From a LEGAL standpoint.
I think you are right. Zoltan Szigyarto (aka Ricardo) posting here above should feel spoken to in this regard. xxx/ robin reid / giorgio grandi too. Claims like they made about the escort stuff and the underage models stuff needs hard evidence. If it would be hearsay, it's of no use in a court of law. I mean, wasn't it said that his former "girlfriend"
https://www.iafd.com/person.rme/perfid=natacha_pr1/gender=f/natacha.htm was underage too when he started fucking her in the asshole and that he antedated the productions (a common thing for him) with her in it? I find it strange that there is no casting with her on his site.... About Giorgio Grandi, I recall he said here on the forums somewhere that he had some explosive stuff about Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier. According to him Rocco Siffredi mentioned it in some kind of audio meeting that Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier attended too. He should come forward.
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The way I see it is that there are only two ways that Woodman will ever be put out of business from a legal point of view and that is by either (1) A model comes forward and says she is willing in a court of law to swear that Woodman did this and Woodman did that .. . . Even then I'm not sure it would hold up. And (2) Somehow one or all those castings that he never got releases signed for ends up on the internet and a model sue's his ass. Again, he'd probably be able to buy his way out of that one.
Yes, you are right. That's why Gerbier is still so obsessed with Lana Rhoades after all these years. Aside from some other reasons, she single-handedly is responsible to destroy his American adventures/dreams. He will never set foot on American soil again after her allegations. American porn consumers and society is less forgiving in regards to bad behavior towards women. Gerbier also hates the fact that Lana Rhoades has become so popular with alsmost 17 million followers on
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https://www.[spam].com/lanarhoades/), DESPITE all of his efforts to destroy her reputation on his pathetic little forum and on other forums with the use of DOZENS of fake troll accounts which is him
Men like him will always come to an end because of women who speak up. That's why it is so funny to learn about the outcome of the upcoming lawsuit filed by Gerbier about specific allegations he had towards his family, if wgcz would be smart enough to present the ammunition to the
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I'm pretty sure his daughter will immediately break all contact and remove him out of her life after hearing she was used strictly for his propaganda/agenda in his fight against xxx/wgcz. But also don't forget that insiders can fuck him up, his own family on a personal level if they would know about how he keeps using them for his own agenda, or people who he call his "friends". He sees it as a personal faillure when people he considers his "friend" backstab him because they don't agree with him or his practices or when they quit the "friendship" like Rocco Siffredi, Dan Leal, Juliana Grandi etc. He is obsessed about the fact they throw away their "friendship".
This loser doesn't even know the meaning of a true friend....
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So you see from a LEGAL point of view the man is golden, he's not an idiot that's what makes him VERY dangerous and that's why he shouldn't be ANYWHERE NEAR 18year old women. I know it, and I hope most other people know it too.
Yes, its' true. It's his tactic: abusing your women for hours in a small hotel room (with or without other male actors for the intimidation) or over dinner in restaurants to get them to do nasty stuff with them. In the past it started with showing naive girls dirtyu magazines. These girls do not realize that it was wrong and didn't realize that they could say NO.
Panorama wrote: As for your evidence, PLEASE if it's that good post it here on this forum today. Nothing would make me happier than to apologize unreservedly to you for doubting your evidence, seriously. Nobody on this forum wants to see this sick individual go down more than me and this "machine" would happily to keep on posting it regularly so that it didn't get snowed under.
See ** here above.
Additionally, I'm not interested in an apolgy from people I will never meet in my life. People are entitled to believe anything they wish so. But again, the evidence you might wish to see is not something I -or probably anyone else like you rightfully said- can deliver. You will have to ask Robin Reid, xxx, BlueShadow, Zoltan.Szigyarto (Ricardo) and others who made certain claims about illegal activities by Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier.
Regarding one of those allegations, bare in mind, the video I posted:
viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&p=590372#p590372Like others said, Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier always acuses OTHERS of behavior or flaws which he himself is responsible of doing.
He can't stop to mention how he HATES escorts and he only used escorts twice in his life. In Gerbier's mind he is a of the same lever as Casanova or Hugh Hefner or American Basketball player Wilt Chamberlain and he even has a thread on his forum where he boasts about having slept with over 5000/6000 women in his life. In his mind a real Casanova will never pay for women to have sex with him. However, Gerbier's mind has collapsed to think he doesn't pay to have sex when there is a camera in the room. Fact of the matter is that all these women who are send to him and whom will never be shooting porn for others are escorts. But Gerbier's simple brain can't comprehend that. He even is delusional in a sense that in his hyper collapsed brain women can't talk about money while making a scene as that will bring him the reality check that he fucks escorts and that his ugly hairy ass is a loser who NEEDS to pay to get laid. He takes them to dinner, not only for the psychological games and also to speak bad about competitors, but also to tell his hyper collapsed brain that he is on a "date" and that his "charm" brought the girls back to his hotel room LOL. 100% loser, just like his male family members for whom he fixes dates with porn stars.....hmmm, I wonder if he also paid those poor girls for their time.....
Zoltan.Szigyarto wrote:Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p wrote:Since July 2nd I tried to send the info. But it seems xxx/WGCZ simply does not care to have this info
maybe they see through your desperate attempt to send them malware
bare in mind, that they lost their case at the European court where they were complaining about Gerbier's defamation
Desperate, well, yea kind of, especially knowing those efforts aren't deemed worthy of a response. But let me remind you that they reached out to me and gave me instructions on how to send them the info I gathered for the upcoming lawsuit:
Cgr69801QUvm_mYtbbqMt_r_p wrote:I have interesting information for xxx/wgcz's lawyers for upcoming legal case which supposedly is being today, but I can't post it without moderator approval. It aslo says that all the links I posted are banned, so that doesn't help either. So, if you need my help from a legal point of view, open up my account, so I can help your legal team or tell me where I can send my message so that you can directly send it to your lawyer team.
xxx wrote:We will email you directly.
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which blocked all incoming messages (not my fault):
viewtopic.php?f=184&t=13567&p=496430#p496430THEN THEY ask me to make a rar of all the files and upload it and email them again; their suggestion
So, who's desperate or sending malware here when I do exactly what shey suggested: rar the files and send it to them? I'm just trying to help like all the people in this thread. We already know that you would be the type to send malware, Zoltan Szigyarto (Ricardo), you're convict after all LOL. You have so much allegations towards Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier, but so far you were not able to deliver concrete proof. It's pretty stupid for an ex-assistant of many years to not have gathered dozens of legit evidence against your ex-boss as you know as any other one that you should always have a plan-b against a huge snake like Pierre Andre Nicolas Gerbier. Now you don't seem to have anything to bring down your former boss and that why you're frustrated after all these years. You can only blame yourself for this bro. To be honest, you should have had microphone under your shirt when shady stuff was happening or taken measures to save your own ass when they accused you and subsequently locked you up behind bars.
*I had to code certain words as they are "banned words" somehow....