POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

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Would you buy train focused scenes?

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POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby DPraved » Sun Feb 13, 2022 2:44 pm

My favorite part of many NRX gangbangs often turns out to be the train at the end. I think the positions and camera angles are often the most interesting of the entire scene.

I'm thinking; why not base the whole scene on just anal trains, face fucking trains and just passing the girl around in general, completely skipping any multiple penetration? Since it's basically just 1on1 but with 3 to 5 guys taking turns, the scene could be positioned directly following the casting or even be incorporated as the second part of a casting for some girls. It's a nice opportunity to really use a new girl to the maximum while maintaining a good view of her without the extra dicks and men getting in the way.

The scene could consist of blowbangs, skull fucking agains the wall trains, face upside down skull fucking trains, face on floor doggy trains, on her knees on chair trains, against a pole trains, piledriver trains, prone bone on bed trains, etc.
Lots of angles showing of her figure, her face or her gape in all of these positions.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby hjohjole » Sun Feb 13, 2022 6:28 pm

Yes! I like trains to. Especially of the girl is up against the wall or down on her knees on thew floor.

But for a whole scene scene to be exciting enough without any DP or DAP you would need good male performers with large dicks that can fuck dominantly. So i don't know if this concept is a perfect fit for NRX.



There are other variations to that can be used as well.

For example the round robin. Its grate since it adds as to mouth to the equation.

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Or the men can be stationary and its the girl and her ass that is being passed around.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby DPraved » Mon Feb 14, 2022 12:28 am

Great point about the round robin! There really aren't enough of those at AV for sure.

I'm conflicted about if this concept should include spit-roasting or simultaneous ass and mouth fucking though. It's definitely hot, but it's too often composed of the doggy on sofa with the girl blowing a guy who just sits there for much of the scene. I find those episodes quite boring to watch since there is minimal energy involved. I much prefer when the girl gets passed around for brief but intense power fucking by one guy after the other, or when they guys are taking turns on the girl in a submissive position. Leaving the face free of cocks also lets her be more vocal and expressive during the scene, which I also enjoy. If ideally, since it's NRX we're talking about here, the girl is a beautiful teenager, I'd like as much unobstructed views of her body and face as possible during the debauchery. Filling her up completely can be left for later scenes. :p
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Postby snippet.ironies.00 » Wed Apr 13, 2022 12:34 am

Keep the girls face and mouth clear so they can verbalise and we get to enjoy their expressions whist their ass is pounded nonstop. That’s what makes it so hot. Whilst the guys can take a break, the talent just has to keep taking it. Love watching those hole get pummelled.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby dap-addict » Mon Apr 25, 2022 7:15 am

Pissing only during such trains, that would be my option.
And than hard assfuck while other stud(s) piss and not that vanilla way all studios do it for the sake of better 'pee' aim.
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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:12 pm

DPraved wrote:Image


What scene is this please? I'm afraid I don't recognise the model to search for myself. Thanks.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Mon Apr 25, 2022 8:50 pm

Giving it a little thought, I'd say my favourite positions for trains are these:

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby DPraved » Mon Apr 25, 2022 9:14 pm

Ultra-Gape wrote:
DPraved wrote:Image


What scene is this please? I'm afraid I don't recognise the model to search for myself. Thanks.

It's Sunny Shine's first scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/211835
1on1 only unfortunately, but I think the position is very nice and I very much like the idea of a cute teen girl having her ass fucked by one guy after the other while lying face down on a bed. :)
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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Mon Apr 25, 2022 10:45 pm

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DPraved wrote:It's Sunny Shine's first scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/211835
1on1 only unfortunately, but I think the position is very nice and I very much like the idea of a cute teen girl having her ass fucked by one guy after the other while lying face down on a bed. :)


Thanks :) . All prone anal is good :cool: .

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby otto1219 » Mon Apr 25, 2022 11:13 pm

I'm totally in favor of trains, but the problem lies with AV/LP and the directors.

There are many trains that are started, but every time, this is what happens:

The girl is positioned and the train begins...guy one fucks her for a good while, often too long, and then he moves away and the second guy comes in to continue for a shorter time, then the third guy comes in and changes the position of the girl, thus uncoupling the train and it is over. There may be 5,6,7,+ guys lined up, but after the second guy, the train is destroyed. Why?

That is all on the "director."
Let the original positioning of the train continue, each new guy fucking harder and harder, and when one guy departs the train, he holds her asshole wide open for the next guy, gaping her for him before he leaves.

What I would add to the mix is a round robin but putting the girl on a swivel chair in a squatting doggie, and the guys around her, rotating the chair as each one fucks the hole of their choice, IOW continuous spit roasting. She can hold on, or spread her ass with both hands and the guys can hold up her head by her hair.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Aug 03, 2022 12:47 am

A post on the Ice Di thread today reminded me of the idea that started this thread, which I still think is a great one.

Looking at my old post above I realise I rather limited in my range of choices and also missed the possibility of 'train' type activity where the girl goes, or is passed, from guy to guy which could also work. These three positions in particular I'd love to see this way:

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Anal with the girl carried this way round can be much harder/deeper than the more common version with the girl's back to the guy I think. (Same great Karen Elektra scene as above.)

Finally I note that my original suggestion all had the girl's back to the guys and a simple missionary position anal is great for some eye-contact with the girls too.

It would be great if the idea of this thread could at least be tried some time as a change to scenes focusing on the 'how many cocks can we get in a girl at once' game. I bet you'd find it sold well, as the poll votes suggest too I think.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:41 am

snippet.ironies.00 wrote:Keep the girls face and mouth clear so they can verbalise and we get to enjoy their expressions whist their ass is pounded nonstop. That’s what makes it so hot. Whilst the guys can take a break, the talent just has to keep taking it. Love watching those hole get pummelled.



^I totally agree with this point.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby otto1219 » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:16 pm

Do you think this post started months ago changed anything?

All good suggestions, and I would like to add a shot from the side on the standing ones, like the last image, and from a distance where you can see the whole girl in frame, and at shoulder/eye level, ie NOT frog, so we can see the whole body effect of the pounding. This would allow seeing her facial expressions, her ass jiggling, her legs flopping, etc and that would be hot being used such as a fucktoy.
Not talking the whole position shot this way, but at least maybe 30 seconds or so?
Thoughts?

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby DPraved » Wed Aug 03, 2022 8:48 pm

otto1219 wrote:Do you think this post started months ago changed anything?

I don't think it has changed anything, but it was a very long time since Nick participated in the forum's as well, so it's possible he hasn't even seen the poll. I'm sure staying engaged in the forum and social media has become a lot more difficult since the war started.

NRX seems to shoot most of their scenes far in advance of their release, so it would also take quite some time before a scene inspired from forum feedback would be released anyway.
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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:37 pm

otto1219 wrote:Do you think this post started months ago changed anything?


I don't think so, hence reviving this thread as a reminder of the interest in case it does in time :) .

otto1219 wrote:All good suggestions, and I would like to add a shot from the side on the standing ones, like the last image, and from a distance where you can see the whole girl in frame, and at shoulder/eye level, ie NOT frog, so we can see the whole body effect of the pounding. This would allow seeing her facial expressions, her ass jiggling, her legs flopping, etc and that would be hot being used such as a fucktoy.
Not talking the whole position shot this way, but at least maybe 30 seconds or so?
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Oh yes, my gif was more demonstrating the position rather than saying the camera work should be just like this. Lots of angle would look great, and actually different angles could be adopted as the girl is passed from guy to guy (if they're able). I certainly like the following view that I think is more like what you had in mind?

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Wed Aug 03, 2022 9:40 pm

I clicked Submit before I meant to there... That photo is from the following excellent looking Aliska Dark scene: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/132563

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Naaru » Fri Aug 05, 2022 5:50 pm

I saw UG post in the Ice Di thread, and I want to also agree.

A focus on this properly directed would be great.

As I said in the Ice Di thread : Its the best thing when you see the female talent start to get opened up and she can actually take it balls deep, but often just as they get going its - * CHANGE PLACES *
there really needs to be a series which focuses on getting newer talent to stop running and really get opened up, I think mixing some steadily increasing size toys as well wouldnt go amiss.

The way I imagine the scene run down is as follows for a 60 minute scene:

[Opening]
3-5 Minutes - Opening Tease
5-10 Min - Toy action with the girl then guys come in and help her out with the toy a bit harder, maybe go up a size, and add some ATM.
5-10 Min - Some standard sloppy BJ, toward the end some nice tongue out deep throat

[around 15-20 minute mark first Train]
10 minute train on either a sofa or a low foot rest/stool - as balls deep as possible, Ass only or Ass to Pussy

5 min interval here - some toys come back - maybe while shes giving some oral as well - or the toys ATM

[35 mins on to Train 2]
another 10-15 minute train - this time a rotating chair or low stool here. She has non stop balls deep anal only fucking - every switch up she gives oral to the last guy fucking

[45 minute roughly]
A static chair that she can hold on to - no limits balls deep fucking anal only. No Oral just a straight anal fuck train

[Last few minutes]
Male talent giving the default taking turns anal creampie.
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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:35 am

I'm not personally a fan of toys beyond the very start of scenes, where they can show the girl has got her ass ready and wants to be fucked. On the latter I'll actually mention I think this can be made much hotter in scenes when there are some wider shots showing the guys as an audience. The following with Sindy Rose I thought was superb for example:

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If the girls need a break from anal mid-scene I'd much rather see vaginal or oral sex than toys.

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Postby vvvv84335 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 9:37 am

I think it can work fine for single penetration scenes, but not so much for multiple penetrations. I much prefer the girl to be surrounded by a ring of cocks and she's sucking on them, preferrably two in her mouth at a time.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Ultra-Gape » Sat Aug 06, 2022 10:13 am

vvvv84335 wrote:I think it can work fine for single penetration scenes, but not so much for multiple penetrations. I much prefer the girl to be surrounded by a ring of cocks and she's sucking on them, preferrably two in her mouth at a time.


I'm not sure exactly which point you were responding to there but the key idea of the train-focused idea is as an alternative to multiple penetrations...

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Postby otto1219 » Sat Aug 06, 2022 11:56 pm

Naaru wrote:Its the best thing when you see the female talent [in a train] start to get opened up and she can actually take it balls deep, but often just as they get going its - * CHANGE PLACES *
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What you describe is 1000% correct. When there are multiple guys way too much time is spent changing places. It's a speed bump to the action and it just doesn't work.
Creativity in a train...
What I would suggest, if there must be ,5-6, more guys in a scene is this:
After the tease the boys come in but only one at a time, maybe 2.
Each guy or couple of guys gets to use the girl however they please, a 3 hole rodeo until they cum; they have 15 minutes.
Then without any cleaning or break and dripping with sperm, the next guy comes in and uses her however he chooses until he cums.
This is repeated for all the guys in succession, until the last guy squirts.With each guy having about 15 min to finish, the video could be about an hour.
At the end the girl will be a stretched out cummy mess, cum in all of her holes and likely dripping from them. She can then be given a vibrator to cum, or maybe Giada Sgh comes in and fists her pulling the cum out of her ass and feeding it to her, wiping her face with it.
At the end, as she lay on the floor, the guys come back in and do a piss cleanup on her.

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:10 am

Trying to think through how to make this work well as a scene actually makes me realise this could be tough, with a real risk of it becoming too regimented/procedural rather ideally portraying the participants enjoying themselves.

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Postby vvvv84335 » Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:15 am

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vvvv84335 wrote:I think it can work fine for single penetration scenes, but not so much for multiple penetrations. I much prefer the girl to be surrounded by a ring of cocks and she's sucking on them, preferrably two in her mouth at a time.


I'm not sure exactly which point you were responding to there but the key idea of the train-focused idea is as an alternative to multiple penetrations...


Ah, sorry my bad. I think it could work as long as there aren't too many guys.

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:39 am

vvvv84335 wrote:I think it could work as long as there aren't too many guys.


Agreed. I'd lean towards 4 I think.

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Postby vvvv84335 » Sun Aug 07, 2022 1:44 am

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vvvv84335 wrote:I think it could work as long as there aren't too many guys.


Agreed. I'd lean towards 4 I think.


4 sounds like a good limit. The question is if she should be the "passenger" being handed over to the next one or if they just each move a spot up?

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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Aug 07, 2022 10:36 am

vvvv84335 wrote:The question is if she should be the "passenger" being handed over to the next one or if they just each move a spot up?


I think that would depend on the position e.g. reverse cowgirl the girl would go from guy to guy whereas any prone positions the girl would stay in position and the guys go to her.

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Postby Naaru » Sun Aug 07, 2022 11:09 am

Ultra-Gape wrote:Trying to think through how to make this work well as a scene actually makes me realise this could be tough, with a real risk of it becoming too regimented/procedural rather ideally portraying the participants enjoying themselves.


This is for sure a thing, I think what you want is to not get stuck on the idea of a train being the literal line of guys waiting for a turn - but it would have to also be not just a standard sofa gangbang.
This is why when I was imagining how to play out the scene its variations on the queue of guys.

I do agree about the mixing of toys mid-scene, but it can also work really well. The thing would be that you need to increase the toys size a little as you go along. Plus it also would need a guy who was not going at it
half heartedly, but really getting in there to open her up some more.

On the other hand 80% Ass fucking and 20% Pussy works fine too - in some scenes if this happens organically enough it seems to really catch the female talent off guard which is great to see.

I think if you go back and check out some scenes there are some good examples - I would go find when I have time.

I hope that someone will end up actually seeing this thread, because I think it would be awesome to have scenes with this focus
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:51 pm

Naaru wrote:On the other hand 80% Ass fucking and 20% Pussy works fine too - in some scenes if this happens organically enough it seems to really catch the female talent off guard which is great to see.


I doubt this will happen as NRX is very focused on anal only outside of DP/DVP and presumably think/know their key audience wants this. Personally though I fully agree with this suggestion. I'd be interested in a girl's perspective but I suspect most have at least some natural and growing desire to get their pussies fucked whilst they are getting turned on through anal, with their pussies obviously getting wet in many cases. If their pussies finally do get fucked (ideally hard and deep) then I'd guess this gives extra pleasure/stimulation than if they'd just got attention throughout, and reactions in scenes that mix anal and vaginal usually give me this impression too.

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Postby DPraved » Sun Aug 07, 2022 2:21 pm

It's a good point that too many litteral trains in the same scene would become too strict and scripted.

I'm thinking that a good deal of passing the girl around, picking her up and throwing her about (in a mild fashion) between positions, would provide enough chaos and energy to make the scene interesting. I'm primarily thinking of Ice Di for this concept (when am I not?) and I've noticed that she definitely likes being pushed around a bit.

The main theme is to have a handful of guys take turns on the girl, how they do it exactly is of less importance, although the less scripted the action appears the better I think.
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Aug 07, 2022 6:15 pm

DPraved wrote:It's a good point that too many litteral trains in the same scene would become too strict and scripted.

I'm thinking that a good deal of passing the girl around, picking her up and throwing her about (in a mild fashion) between positions, would provide enough chaos and energy to make the scene interesting. I'm primarily thinking of Ice Di for this concept (when am I not?) and I've noticed that she definitely likes being pushed around a bit.

The main theme is to have a handful of guys take turns on the girl, how they do it exactly is of less importance, although the less scripted the action appears the better I think.


Yes, I think that would work, and actually even not too 'manhandly' but with s semi-competive element between the guys each using the same position could work too I think.

(The only part I'd deviate from is that I'm afraid I couldn't buy an Ice Di scene right now as the cuts on her arms just worry me too much. I hope she's OK.)

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Postby DPraved » Sun Aug 07, 2022 7:47 pm

I definitely share your concern about Ice Di's health, but I don't get the impression that it's her porn work that makes her self harm. It may just as well be the prospect of not getting more work that upsets her. There are certainly enough things to upset a person, considering what is happening in the world, that we simply can't know what is best for her at this point.

All I can do is to support her work and hope that she earns well enough to help her through the difficult times. Speaking for myself, I would rather be miserable with money than be miserable without.
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Postby Ultra-Gape » Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:07 pm

DPraved wrote:I definitely share your concern about Ice Di's health, but I don't get the impression that it's her porn work that makes her self harm. It may just as well be the prospect of not getting more work that upsets her. There are certainly enough things to upset a person, considering what is happening in the world, that we simply can't know what is best for her at this point.

All I can do is to support her work and hope that she earns well enough to help her through the difficult times. Speaking for myself, I would rather be miserable with money than be miserable without.


Sorry if I gave the impression I was suggesting that you or others may not care - I didn't mean to, and I know others have voiced concerns here. I probably shouldn't have mentioned this but my point was I can't enjoy scenes of hers when my overriding thought on seeing her scars is concern for her wellbeing.

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Postby DPraved » Sun Aug 07, 2022 8:37 pm

That's a fair point and I respect that.
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Postby drevokocur66 » Tue Aug 09, 2022 4:27 am

Any trains need to include ATM or ATOGM. or at least ATP.
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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby hjohjole » Sun Aug 14, 2022 10:28 pm

A great example of the train concept we find in this scene.
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I really like the idea of having a "service girl" like Anna de Ville play here. She is doing some dirty talking as well as providing oral service.
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Naaru
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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby Naaru » Mon Aug 15, 2022 3:37 pm

hjohjole wrote:A great example of the train concept we find in this scene.
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/61685

I really like the idea of having a "service girl" like Anna de Ville play here. She is doing some dirty talking as well as providing oral service.


I always really enjoyed this with the Sineplex classic scenes, you got a lot more of it back then. Often youd have one girl who didnt do anal, she might get still fucked, but not in the ass, but often she would spend a good amount of the scene getting ATOGM.

TrueAnal is the only other place where you see relentless ATOGM, its pretty unrivalled for that in a FFM format. Balls deep assfucking and constant sloppy ATOGM


If NRX did a train series as weve been discussing - plus a service girl for a lot of ATOGM - wow
Sandra Luberc - Natalia Pearl - Hennessy - Jessica Swan - Scarlet Domingo - Ellie Margaret - Sabrine - Juliya

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby naughte » Mon Aug 22, 2022 5:41 am

I like the pics but voted no because there's something about it I really don't like. It seems disrespectful and cruel to the girl. Like they are trying to make her out to be a real P.O.S.


Maybe if they do multiple girls at once it won't seem so bad. I would say it's not so pleasant for the guys though, as they have to wait around.

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Re: POLL: New scene concept - Trains!

Postby steverino1969 » Tue Apr 04, 2023 10:41 pm

Trains are OK, but only in the context of traditional gangfucking and multiple penetrations.


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