High Frame Rate

[stevehappy339]

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Complete name                            : E:\Porn\[Bang.com] - Bang Rammed - Veronica Avluv (2017)\veronica-avlov-scene-1.2160p.mp4
Format                                   : MPEG-4
Format profile                           : Base Media
Codec ID                                 : isom (isom/avc1/mp42)
File size                                : 12.5 GiB
Duration                                 : 44 min 37 s
Overall bit rate mode                    : Variable
Overall bit rate                         : 40.1 Mb/s
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-02-02 15:22:17
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-02-02 15:22:17

Video
ID                                       : 1
Format                                   : AVC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Video Codec
Format profile                           : Baseline@L5.2
Format settings                          : 3 Ref Frames
Format settings, CABAC                   : No
Format settings, Reference frames        : 3 frames
Codec ID                                 : avc1
Codec ID/Info                            : Advanced Video Coding
Duration                                 : 44 min 37 s
Bit rate                                 : 40.0 Mb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 82.3 Mb/s
Width                                    : 4 096 pixels
Height                                   : 2 160 pixels
Display aspect ratio                     : 1.896
Frame rate mode                          : Constant
Frame rate                               : 59.940 (60000/1001) FPS
Color space                              : YUV
Chroma subsampling                       : 4:2:0
Bit depth                                : 8 bits
Scan type                                : Progressive
Bits/(Pixel*Frame)                       : 0.075
Stream size                              : 12.5 GiB (100%)
Writing library                          : Zencoder Video Encoding System
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-02-02 12:55:10
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-02-02 15:22:52
Color range                              : Limited
Color primaries                          : BT.709
Transfer characteristics                 : BT.709
Matrix coefficients                      : BT.709
Codec configuration box                  : avcC

Audio
ID                                       : 2
Format                                   : AAC LC
Format/Info                              : Advanced Audio Codec Low Complexity
Codec ID                                 : mp4a-40-2
Duration                                 : 44 min 37 s
Bit rate mode                            : Variable
Bit rate                                 : 128 kb/s
Maximum bit rate                         : 138 kb/s
Channel(s)                               : 2 channels
Channel layout                           : L R
Sampling rate                            : 48.0 kHz
Frame rate                               : 46.875 FPS (1024 SPF)
Compression mode                         : Lossy
Stream size                              : 40.8 MiB (0%)
Encoded date                             : UTC 2017-02-02 10:35:32
Tagged date                              : UTC 2017-02-02 15:22:52

https://www.bang.com/video/V1biEfgwLnoz ... onzo-flick ->> media-info is about this video
60FPS and 40Mb/s is sweet spot in my opinion, the videos which i own from this platform are ~32Mb/s but FPS is 30(irrespective of the studio seems like pornbox controls this)
please increase the FPS and bit rate

[stevehappy339]

@xxx

[justinwarren41]

Yes, I have seen a few 4K videos in 60 fps with HEVC instead of h264 (don't recall the bit rate) and it was by far the best picture I've ever seen.

Super smooth and crystal clear, like watching action through an open window on my OLED! File size was reasonable (11 gb for 50 minute video)

Hope this is adopted for 4K videos soon

[Pboxer88]

Used to be a framerate guy, but since I got an LG oled as a monitor, there's a super effective motion smoothing effect that makes 30, 24 and 60 fps content indistinguishable (they all look smooth as fuck, and I have a non lg monitor right next to it that I can drag for instant comparison of this effect). For whatever reason it only works in 60 fps mode and not 120.

Anyway this is all to say I value over PQ more than framerate now. I don't know what the hell PornWorld does but to me PW looks solidly above everyone else. Their stuff isn't always as hardcore as the other studios and it's more of a glam style but nonetheless I wish gonzo and whatever studios would step it up with a higher bitrate.

Besides PornWorld, I downloaded a few gigantic facial abuse 4k vids and those are huge files like 25 gb but amazing quality, the best I've ever seen. Unfortunately the content isn't as much my cup of tea though (not into puking)

[justinwarren41]

^Yes glad you mentioned the Facial Abuse. They are humongous files and you have to pay extra but it is the clearest I've ever seen. I have an LG OLED as well and play around with with the anti-blur settings as well.

Not an videofile, what makes the FA scenes so clear? HEVC 60 fps, bitrate? Sometimes 1080p and 4K are not noticeably different but FA scene was stunningly clear. Hope others can replicate that.

[Pboxer88]

^You may have already tried this then, but if not I'd highly recommend it (assuming your LG OLED is newish). Set your TV to 60 hz in Window (this is required for the following to function). Then go to Trumotion setting in video and select "smooth". Open any 24fps or 30fps content, and voila, it's now smooth as butter like 60fps. For whatever reason, this only works when set on 60hz and not 120hz (the setting still exists on 120hz, it just doesn't do anything noticeable when you select it).

As for FA, that team also does 4k on Ghetto Gaggers and Black Payback. Again, there's a narrow taste of content there unfortunately. I'm not super technically savvy with PQ, but whatever that team does, whether it's bitrate or something else, they're above everyone else at this point. I think it just comes down to with the gigantic file sizes they're getting more data on screen at once for your display to be able to pick up; but again, I don't know how the file formats relate to that.

[justinwarren41]

Thanks for the specific feedback. My LG OLED is from 2019, might be too old to update this. I didn't see how to change to 60 hz unless you can guide me there?? Much appreciated

The TruMotion settings I usually turn off or turn way down although each file/studio is a little different. With motion in "smooth" I get odd artifacts so better off being a little choppy so if I can get to 60 hz maybe that will be eliminated. Any improvement that can be made to improve the viewing experience I'll take. Porn is about visual stimulus and nothing beats a big huge display, crystal clear and smooth action.

Pboxer88 Thanks, I love pretty much every one of your girls in your signature by the way...

[Ichimaru]

Wish I read this thread a few days back. I was thinking of getting a sony tv that was being sold at a reduced price. I was looking into making the purchase specifically for its motion smoothing function but wasn't sure how it matched up to watching movies shot at higher framerates. It looks like you guys have cleared up that query for me.

Looks like I will have to wait till another sale comes about

[Pboxer88]

Thanks for the specific feedback. My LG OLED is from 2019, might be too old to update this. I didn't see how to change to 60 hz unless you can guide me there?? Much appreciated

The TruMotion settings I usually turn off or turn way down although each file/studio is a little different. With motion in "smooth" I get odd artifacts so better off being a little choppy so if I can get to 60 hz maybe that will be eliminated. Any improvement that can be made to improve the viewing experience I'll take. Porn is about visual stimulus and nothing beats a big huge display, crystal clear and smooth action.

Pboxer88 Thanks, I love pretty much every one of your girls in your signature by the way...

No problem. So it may or may not work with the 2019 model (I have the CX which came out late 2020, I'm thinking you might be okay), but it's worth a try in any case, trust me. It's a pretty easy 3 step process (the 3rd step isn't even necessary, it's just to show the difference if you desire that)

Step 1: In Windows (I'm using Windows 10 so if you have 11 already the path might be slightly different) --> Right click on desktop --> Select "Display settings" --> Scroll down until you see "Advanced display settings" and click on that --> Under the "Choose display" select your LG TV --> Then go down to where it says Refresh rate and make sure it is set to 60 HZ --> save settings. Step 1 is complete. Go back in the menu and make sure it's still set on 60hz.

Step 2: Again, using the menu on my 2020 model which is hopefully the same as yours. Hit the settings button on your remote (looks like a round gear) --> Now go to the menu with 7 boxes listed vertically on the left and click on the top box (Picture) --> Click on Picture mode. You can do it in any mode, but mine is APS --> Once you click on this you'll see a menu showing OLED Light, Contrast, Brightness, etc. Scroll all the way down in that same menu until you get to Picture Options and click on that --> In the menu that pulls up, scroll down to TruMotion and change to smooth. Now here's the kicker, if you open a 25 or 30fps video that used to not come to life, now it will with perfectly smooth motion.

Step 3 (optional): Prove it to yourself. If you're not immediately blow away by the difference, and you don't have another monitor to move the window from for instant comparison, you can easily show your eyes the difference. All you would do is select another picture mode and ensure Trumotion is set to "off" in that mode. For example, let's say you like to use Vivid and you turn trumotion to smooth. Then go to standard and turn off true motion in standard (make sure you don't apply the Trumotion off to all inputs if it gives you that option). Then you can go back and forth from vivid (trutmotion on) to standard (trumotion off), and congratualations, you never have to worry about framerate again for lifelike motion.

[Pboxer88]

Wish I read this thread a few days back. I was thinking of getting a sony tv that was being sold at a reduced price. I was looking into making the purchase specifically for its motion smoothing function but wasn't sure how it matched up to watching movies shot at higher framerates. It looks like you guys have cleared up that query for me.

Looks like I will have to wait till another sale comes about

I'm not sure how the Sony handles smoothing for low framerate video, but owning both a new Samsung QLED and LG OLED (each for different purposes), the LG blows away the Samsung, by a huge margin in motion smoothing, and a smaller but still significant margin in picture quality. So I can't speak to Sony, but I can tell you LG OLEDs kick ass. I'll be buying the 42 inch that comes out later this year.

[justinwarren41]

Thanks, I'll try it!

Love my LG OLED. Picture is fantastic plus the operating system is very easy to use. Mainly I watch with the Plex server from my PC. Can watch 4K videos with no buffering.

[Ichimaru]

I'm not sure how the Sony handles smoothing for low framerate video, but owning both a new Samsung QLED and LG OLED (each for different purposes), the LG blows away the Samsung, by a huge margin in motion smoothing, and a smaller but still significant margin in picture quality. So I can't speak to Sony, but I can tell you LG OLEDs kick ass. I'll be buying the 42 inch that comes out later this year.

Thanks for the info. I had heard from a couple of sources that Sony generally handled motion smoothing the best with LG's a close second. I was looking at a 42-inch model as well so if If a good LG so I might look into this LG model you mention as well.

Another question I have is whether there are more artifacts/errors trying to interpolate 24-30fps content into 60fps content vs trying to interpolate 24-30fps content into 120fps. I am guessing there is? If so might there be an argument to go for a 60hz display rather than a 120hz

[Pboxer88]

I'm not sure how the Sony handles smoothing for low framerate video, but owning both a new Samsung QLED and LG OLED (each for different purposes), the LG blows away the Samsung, by a huge margin in motion smoothing, and a smaller but still significant margin in picture quality. So I can't speak to Sony, but I can tell you LG OLEDs kick ass. I'll be buying the 42 inch that comes out later this year.

Thanks for the info. I had heard from a couple of sources that Sony generally handled motion smoothing the best with LG's a close second. I was looking at a 42-inch model as well so if If a good LG so I might look into this LG model you mention as well.

Another question I have is whether there are more artifacts/errors trying to interpolate 24-30fps content into 60fps content vs trying to interpolate 24-30fps content into 120fps. I am guessing there is? If so might there be an argument to go for a 60hz display rather than a 120hz

I don't notice artifacts or problems watching 24 or 30fps content on the 60 hz mode of LG OLED, though I suppose I'm not super sensitive. I don't see sense in buying a 60 hz monitor/panel, when you can simply change the refresh rate on the LG OLED (described above) easily from 120 to 60 hz, and back again when you want.

Here is the kicker with the LG TVs, and it's counterintuitive: the 120 HZ mode works great on everything except TruMotion. Meaning, if you want to game, it's great. If you want to see your mouse smoothly on the desktop, it's also great. However, if you want 24 or 30fps content to look smooth (as if it were 60fps) you have to change the monitor to 60hz before you turn the setting on. If you keep the refresh rate on 120 hz, you can still "turn on" the TruMotion setting, but it has no practical impact (meaning it still looks like 24 or 30 fps content). If you turn it to 60 hz though, it interpolates and functions in a way to make the video look ultra smooth. An added bonus is that the Trumotion on 60hz also smooths your mouse cursor, so it's ideal for literally everything to keep the LG TV to 60 hz, except gaming. This is not just me saying this, there are Reddit threads etc. on the Trumotion 60/120 thing.

Conclusion: I have a simple suggestion, which would be buying the LG TV and putting in 60hz mode, for everything except gaming. But that's just my 2 cents as I haven't used Sony recently.

[Pboxer88]

Also, I meant to say that the LG OLEDs used to go down to only 55 inches. Two years ago, they started offering it in 48 inches, which is when I pulled the trigger to use it as a monitor. This year at CES in January, they announced they'll have a 42 inch version sometime this year. The rumor is it will be midyear, around May-June, though it could be a couple months in either direction.

[stevehappy339]

it's weird how the post was about Analvids video frame rate but suddenly it changed to LG oled discussion

[justinwarren41]

Sorry about that haha

Back to the porn, Gonzo has the best motion and Giorgio's looks the best overall with NRX and Porn World the clearest.

[Pboxer88]

it's weird how the post was about Analvids video frame rate but suddenly it changed to LG oled discussion

Sorry, fair point. Was just trying to help with some information; as technically my response about the video framerate is, "it doesn't matter what the framerate of the avids files are if you have the right gear".

I'm not sure if there's a separate thread for bitrate/image quality/file size, etc. as that's more what I care about.