Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[ValenciaCF]

Haha I am thrilled and happy that "Martin" asjed PW this question why his followers are low. Let me guess, he will lie and say he had more than 100k but his [spam] was suspended lol

So he started [spam] in 2019. More than 2 years and you still can't get your followers up and have the audacity to pretend you helped get the girls thousands of followers. Who he thinks he is??? Somebody famous? Can't even win an award. Shut your nouth please. You have no friends. You din't go to awards or parties etc because nobody like you. You want to see a real party with friends? Go check Julia Grandi at hee birthday party how many people attended and how many friends she has. With him, everybody have to pretend to be his friend because he's a shithead.

[ValenciaCF]

Lets hear his excuse. 2 years ago he start [spam] and he is going nowhere. Also to bluff his members that his site views are fans lol if he has fans his [spam] count won't be so low. Quit the bullshit. He must become a comedian.

[ValenciaCF]

He made Clara Mia famous????? This man better wake up from his dream. Clara is doing top projects for Marc Dorcel and Jacqui Michel in Paris who are light years ahead of PW in terms of the quality and recognition they have. So yeah let him pretend he is a superstsr when you compare these 3 it is almost laughable that this man talks through his backside. Even funnier when you realize he only have 5k followers on [spam]. Even I have more followers than him lol. So keep pretending Pierre. You are nobody and you have no friends. So let him pretend all he wants. He's jealous he's not as successful as others. It's clear to see the numbers but his greatesr dedest is seeing his biggest competitor is20 times more famous than him almost 300k

[Iddaoeeok]

Apart from the fact that there it is often PW himself, (a producer!) who writes disgusting things, bash girls, agencies (Which he then collaborates with anyway...) etc.
I'd say that's more serious.

Are any of the ones in those screenshots posted by PW himself though? I don't think they are, he's usually pretty easy to spot. The fact is there's stuff posted on LP/AV forum every single day that is a lot worse, so let's dial back on the mock outrage please. I don't check this thread out very often but when I do I can't help but notice there's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.

[ValenciaCF]

Imagine the audacity he has to still try and say he is bigger than all the other companies because of web ranking, sending big post to explain himself only shows he is a fragile, weak man who can only make excuses. I wonder which pirate site he got that stupid ranking lol. Like I said, keep pretending because you are a small fish in a big pond with bigger dishes than you. So you can pretend by posting your pictures in famcy restaurants but everyone knows, you barely have any friends and if he want to see real friends he can click here amd see what real friends and a party is like
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[BlueShadow]

Apart from the fact that there it is often PW himself, (a producer!) who writes disgusting things, bash girls, agencies (Which he then collaborates with anyway...) etc.
I'd say that's more serious.

Are any of the ones in those screenshots posted by PW himself though? I don't think they are, he's usually pretty easy to spot. The fact is there's stuff posted on LP/AV forum every single day that is a lot worse, so let's dial back on the mock outrage please. I don't check this thread out very often but when I do I can't help but notice there's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.

Yes sure, here it's a lot worse, while when PW says he did something with a model despite the agency said no, and brags about not being more sneaky it's perfectly normal and professional. Who cares... (I can post dozens and dozens of words that PW says himself and show exactly what kind of character he is and how he behave, if only half of the things he writes were really true he would be banned for life...at least in the US...)
please...

[J2369___]

Apart from the fact that there it is often PW himself, (a producer!) who writes disgusting things, bash girls, agencies (Which he then collaborates with anyway...) etc.
I'd say that's more serious.

Are any of the ones in those screenshots posted by PW himself though? I don't think they are, he's usually pretty easy to spot. The fact is there's stuff posted on LP/AV forum every single day that is a lot worse, so let's dial back on the mock outrage please. I don't check this thread out very often but when I do I can't help but notice there's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.

Yes sure, here it's a lot worse, while when PW says he did something with a model despite the agency said no, and brags about not being more sneaky it's perfectly normal and professional. Who cares... (I can post dozens and dozens of words that PW says himself and show exactly what kind of character he is and how he behave, if only half of the things he writes were really true he would be banned for life...at least in the US...)
please...

I want PW finished, need to get rid of him for good, he’s an absolute fuckwhit, he needs to stop using girls, taking advantage of them, lying, everything, I absolutely hate him, not because he’s fucking girls, it’s because he’s the biggest bullshit, lying, drama Queen who covers up everything when the truth tries to come out or members try and stand up for themselves, he can fuck off big time. I really hope he starts losing all of the girls he has and start working for other agencies/studios.

[Panorama]

Shame on you Pierre!

Allowing your members to speak of Sylvia and Brenda in such a disgusting and degrading way! You have seated across the table from you two incredibly beautiful women and all you can think of is pissing in their mouths, you disgusting excuse for a man. They can't even access your awful site in that little hiding hole you have there in Hungary to see what your members are writing about them because you are such a coward. How anyone with daughters and any form of morality can support you absolutely amazes me.

LOL, are you kidding? Have you never read what people write about models in this forum? That stuff on the PW forum is tame compared to what people routinely write on model pages here.

Hi Iddaoeeok, No I wasn't kidding. You might not know this if you don't visit this thread often but I'm not into anal, golden showers etc. In fact, I probably shouldn't even be commenting on a forum for that genre because I know NOTHING about it!
But, what I do know is basic respect and empathy for another human being. I also know that not only is this thread directed at Pierre Woodman, but the owners of it are kind enough to allow me to be a pain in Woodman's arse with my posts, something other forums and indeed not even Woodman's forum would let me do. Let me assure you, I would have said the same thing to anyone here IF I frequented the other threads which I don't for the reasons I explained above. I've only been a member of Woodman's site and seen what he's done, not LegalPorn AnalVids etc, so I only have a problem with Woodman. I completely understand that we all have different things that float our boats but speaking about young women who have only just entered the industry particularly ones who probably don't really know what they are getting themselves into (especially where Woodman is concerned) seems really disrespectful to me . . . . Right or wrong that's how I feel so that's how I wrote it. Hope that makes sense?

[Panorama]

Sounds stupid, but I actually believe you . . . Or I have to accept that when you say that you have "NEVER" been involved in prostitution you're telling the truth as I've never seen any evidence to suggest otherwise. (for the time being) However, what I have seen is that you enthuse in taking advantage of young, very inexperienced, nieve young women and turning them into something they never intended to be for the night. You have absolutely no intention of "launching" their careers. (A) Because you can't, you've become the pariah of the porn industry, no awards, and no recognition shows how much your fellow industry compatriates respect and value you. And (B) because you only care about your own thoughts and feelings and making young women pay for what happened to you in the past.

And so here's the next victim. But it doesn't matter that you've abandoned naming them Pierre, I'm never going to be able to get to all of them before you do. But I'm getting to many that you haven't yet, and I'm telling them about everything that you are. One turning you down will become two, two will become three, every one a small victory for the truth and all those girls whose careers - and in some cases lives you've ruined.

[viewer2]

Apart from the fact that there it is often PW himself, (a producer!) who writes disgusting things, bash girls, agencies (Which he then collaborates with anyway...) etc.
I'd say that's more serious.

Are any of the ones in those screenshots posted by PW himself though? I don't think they are, he's usually pretty easy to spot. The fact is there's stuff posted on LP/AV forum every single day that is a lot worse, so let's dial back on the mock outrage please. I don't check this thread out very often but when I do I can't help but notice there's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.

Iddaoeeok you're losing your time;)
Whatever you'll say, his answer will be PW, PW, PW, PW

When Woodman speaks badly about models, it's MORE SERIOUS because he's a producer (I quote Blue Shadow)
... so with this logic, we're not producers so we can criticize or harrass models. Not a problem...
All bad comments and behaviours which happen here are absolved. They're not PW!

You can't argue with someone who has such a reasoning.
He doesn't even realise he's making his (originally justified) case against Woodman weaker and weaker.

[viewer2]

Sounds stupid, but I actually believe you . . . Or I have to accept that when you say that you have "NEVER" been involved in prostitution you're telling the truth as I've never seen any evidence to suggest otherwise. (for the time being) However, what I have seen is that you enthuse in taking advantage of young, very inexperienced, nieve young women and turning them into something they never intended to be for the night.

Agree. This prostitution thing is rumour (it is his former assistant, who sometimes writes here, who was actually involved in prostitution, and condemned and who now says Woodman has an escort network, but without proof). But that (now still 17 years old) girl surely believes she's going to an interview and she has no idea she's going to be fucked in the ass by a 60 year old individual who's going to call her a prostitute during the act and to pay her to get fucked in the ass!

[Pierrethebig]

Sounds stupid, but I actually believe you . . . Or I have to accept that when you say that you have "NEVER" been involved in prostitution you're telling the truth as I've never seen any evidence to suggest otherwise. (for the time being) However, what I have seen is that you enthuse in taking advantage of young, very inexperienced, nieve young women and turning them into something they never intended to be for the night.

Agree. This prostitution thing is rumour (it is his former assistant, who sometimes writes here, who was actually involved in prostitution, and condemned and who now says Woodman has an escort network, but without proof). But that (now still 17 years old) girl surely believes she's going to an interview and she has no idea she's going to be fucked in the ass by a 60 year old individual who's going to call her a prostitute during the act and to pay her to get fucked in the ass!

His former assistant was formatted by him...
Was working for him for 1 or 2 decades.
He has to know Woodman,and Woodman has to know him.
Yeah, would be interesting to have Woodman as convicted
But this is they're problem.
My problem is that I'm a lost photographer who had the choice to put dozens of zillions of $ into the pockets of PW when he was pimping Tania R . This was my fault, I was thinking he is a cool guy..I hate him. And will.Even Tania left him and went with the guy she had to fuck to sponsor PW.Finally she've choosed the Ferrari's instead of someone has no time for her...
Luckily no hold from this virus to deal with more...

[BlueShadow]

Apart from the fact that there it is often PW himself, (a producer!) who writes disgusting things, bash girls, agencies (Which he then collaborates with anyway...) etc.
I'd say that's more serious.

Are any of the ones in those screenshots posted by PW himself though? I don't think they are, he's usually pretty easy to spot. The fact is there's stuff posted on LP/AV forum every single day that is a lot worse, so let's dial back on the mock outrage please. I don't check this thread out very often but when I do I can't help but notice there's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.

Iddaoeeok you're losing your time;)
Whatever you'll say, his answer will be PW, PW, PW, PW

When Woodman speaks badly about models, it's MORE SERIOUS because he's a producer (I quote Blue Shadow)
... so with this logic, we're not producers so we can criticize or harrass models. Not a problem...
All bad comments and behaviours which happen here are absolved. They're not PW!

You can't argue with someone who has such a reasoning.
He doesn't even realise he's making his (originally justified) case against Woodman weaker and weaker.

You are the one who put those words in my mouth...reasoning with YOUR head.

Yes we can, we can criticize or praise what we see. It seems perfectly normal to me.
And... where did I say that what normal users say should be absolved? Where did you see this logic? The logic is that it matters relatively especially if I then see models and agencies still working with a producer despite what he says and has said about them in the past (it's work...money over dignity...) Why do you give weight to what some member says if models don't even give weight to what a producer says? So, seeing that...The logic of saying: this model doesn't work here anymore because of some members words only makes me laugh.

And yes, anyway the words of a producer, (who talks too much on a forum) count more since a producer is supposed to be professional and his word, in a normal world, have more weight.... I confirm what I said. But this not mean that users words count zero. XD XD

[Iddaoeeok]

Iddaoeeok you're losing your time;)
Whatever you'll say, his answer will be PW, PW, PW, PW

When Woodman speaks badly about models, it's MORE SERIOUS because he's a producer (I quote Blue Shadow)
... so with this logic, we're not producers so we can criticize or harrass models. Not a problem...
All bad comments and behaviours which happen here are absolved. They're not PW!

You can't argue with someone who has such a reasoning.
He doesn't even realise he's making his (originally justified) case against Woodman weaker and weaker.

Believe me, I'm not defending PW, the guy's an evil bastard and a menace, but if you're going to criticize him do it for things he deserves criticism for, don't resort to stuff like, "You should read some of the messages members on his forum are posting" - especially when you're posting on a forum where much more vile stuff is posted about models every day.

As for Blue Shadow and his pathetic strawmanning, "So you're saying is LP/AV is worse than Woodman then?", that's so fucking moronic and infantile it's barely worth a response. Blue Shadow's been handed his own thread to carry on his obsession and it's now 53 pages long and you're got some other guy who doesn't even like anal sex who only visits the forum so he can post about Woodman - no wonder Woodman's a narcissist!

[BlueShadow]

I don't check this thread out very often but when I do I can't help but notice there's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.

Brillbabes VS Woodman. Now best partners (I don't even want to know the details of why they changed their minds...)



Julmodels/Juliana Grandi...he used to say nice things about her...then after JM didn't work with him anymore he started to bash her and Julmodels too.
He says he is professional and cares about his image...but he has no problem saying this:





Talks on [spam] about the LGBT community then on the forum he talks about Gay pride parades in derogatory terms.




Josephine Jackson said that was just bad experience with Woodman, some time later she took a picture with him... and I can guess why...
And without talking about J De Angelis who remains ''upset'' if we talk about piss but in a video she talks easily about piss with PW as was nothing...

He has always said that he doesn't work with girls who have done LP, and that if they work on LP then no producer calls them (bullshit of course, just check the nomination for the best new talent on AVN LOL)...but meanwhile he continues to work with models who are on LP.

And obviously the models go there, they don't care about what he says on LP (and what LP says on PW), they care about the work, the hypocrite is him in this case.
But some models don't even care when they get hit in the first person by him...
Kiara Lord (just to name some cases) didn't have a good idea about PW (and PW didn't want to give her all that money for anal)... (another case:Romy Indy didnt' said good thing about him (of course now all deleted form [spam]...), and PW bashed her and her works with Tushy) she ended up working with him anyway:

PW talks:
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if I were a model with some balls I wouldn't work there after what a producer said about me.


Sorry but: THIS is of hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.
And you came here to talk about hypocrisy. Porn biz is FULL.
I can see that you don't check out very often..

[BlueShadow]

So the problem is? A member can not say or point out these facts, inconsistencies and hypocrisies because otherwise what?

[BlueShadow]

THIS not mean bash models or harassing. (Then I can't speak for everyone, but disgusting things I've read here as I read there in other forums. Can't blame everyone. This doesn't mean that it's ok or that those must be absolved...but if ''producers'' (which on a forum should be by example and professional, always in a normal world of course...) who does and says the same things about competitors and also models almost is absolved and without consequences (look Brillbabes for example and model bashed and then in the end worked there...) why must only the members be blamed...?) I see glaring contradictions and ask myself questions. Doubt and you will know...

[BlueShadow]

Iddaoeeok you're losing your time;)
Whatever you'll say, his answer will be PW, PW, PW, PW

When Woodman speaks badly about models, it's MORE SERIOUS because he's a producer (I quote Blue Shadow)
... so with this logic, we're not producers so we can criticize or harrass models. Not a problem...
All bad comments and behaviours which happen here are absolved. They're not PW!

You can't argue with someone who has such a reasoning.
He doesn't even realise he's making his (originally justified) case against Woodman weaker and weaker.

Believe me, I'm not defending PW, the guy's an evil bastard and a menace, but if you're going to criticize him do it for things he deserves criticism for, don't resort to stuff like, "You should read some of the messages members on his forum are posting" - especially when you're posting on a forum where much more vile stuff is posted about models every day.

As for Blue Shadow and his pathetic strawmanning, "So you're saying is LP/AV is worse than Woodman then?", that's so fucking moronic and infantile it's barely worth a response.

Where? Another thing imagined and interpreted by you? Can you say concrete things?

I said...it's a competition between who is worse... (Did I say that on the LP forum members are all little angels? LOL) With PW winning easily.
second thing... 'even more serious' because are things said by a producer... and you interpreted: then the members can be absolved, which was never said...you are doing it all. LOL
Your logic is not my logic. Thanks God.

[BlueShadow]

Only ten years?

[Panorama]

Iddaoeeok you're losing your time;)
Whatever you'll say, his answer will be PW, PW, PW, PW

When Woodman speaks badly about models, it's MORE SERIOUS because he's a producer (I quote Blue Shadow)
... so with this logic, we're not producers so we can criticize or harrass models. Not a problem...
All bad comments and behaviours which happen here are absolved. They're not PW!

You can't argue with someone who has such a reasoning.
He doesn't even realise he's making his (originally justified) case against Woodman weaker and weaker.

Believe me, I'm not defending PW, the guy's an evil bastard and a menace, but if you're going to criticize him do it for things he deserves criticism for, don't resort to stuff like, "You should read some of the messages members on his forum are posting" - especially when you're posting on a forum where much more vile stuff is posted about models every day.

As for Blue Shadow and his pathetic strawmanning, "So you're saying is LP/AV is worse than Woodman then?", that's so fucking moronic and infantile it's barely worth a response. Blue Shadow's been handed his own thread to carry on his obsession and it's now 53 pages long and you're got some other guy who doesn't even like anal sex who only visits the forum so he can post about Woodman - no wonder Woodman's a narcissist!

I wasn't taking the piss Iddaoeeok, I was trying to explain why I post here, but if you didn't understand my explanation there's nothing much I can add to it. . . . . Although I would add, I think Woodman was a narcissist long before I started posting. I don't think you can actually turn somebody into one by simply posting about them.

[ValenciaCF]

I don't check this thread out very often but when I do I can't help but notice there's a hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.

Brillbabes VS Woodman. Now best partners (I don't even want to know the details of why they changed their minds...)



Julmodels/Juliana Grandi...he used to say nice things about her...then after JM didn't work with him anymore he started to bash her and Julmodels too.
He says he is professional and cares about his image...but he has no problem saying this:





Talks on [spam] about the LGBT community then on the forum he talks about Gay pride parades in derogatory terms.




Josephine Jackson said that was just bad experience with Woodman, some time later she took a picture with him... and I can guess why...
And without talking about J De Angelis who remains ''upset'' if we talk about piss but in a video she talks easily about piss with PW as was nothing...

He has always said that he doesn't work with girls who have done LP, and that if they work on LP then no producer calls them (bullshit of course, just check the nomination for the best new talent on AVN LOL)...but meanwhile he continues to work with models who are on LP.

And obviously the models go there, they don't care about what he says on LP (and what LP says on PW), they care about the work, the hypocrite is him in this case.
But some models don't even care when they get hit in the first person by him...
Kiara Lord (just to name some cases) didn't have a good idea about PW (and PW didn't want to give her all that money for anal)... (another case:Romy Indy didnt' said good thing about him (of course now all deleted form [spam]...), and PW bashed her and her works with Tushy) she ended up working with him anyway:

PW talks:
____________

____________
if I were a model with some balls I wouldn't work there after what a producer said about me.


Sorry but: THIS is of hell of a lot of hypocrisy on display.
And you came here to talk about hypocrisy. Porn biz is FULL.
I can see that you don't check out very often..

I am glad that you posyed all of this and I hope he reads all this shit because it just proves what a liar and am unprofessional man he is, breaking the rules and ethics of ehst is correct in business. He is big snake and like to pretend he is the good guy but sometimes what he says make himself a stupid.

He does not respect boundaries and wonders why people talk bad about him. Imagine when a girl does not want anyone or the world to know she has done an anal video or for it to be seen or known but he still have the audacity to go on his forum and say I can't show you the video but yes I fucked her ass. What kind of professional man can say this when she forbid him to do that amd he do it still??? Or maybe he just lies to feed his own ego and fool his members. Who knows.

[BlueShadow]

He did in ''private''... and if she was payed it was ''escort service'', nothing more nothing less.

[Iddaoeeok]

I wasn't taking the piss Iddaoeeok, I was trying to explain why I post here, but if you didn't understand my explanation there's nothing much I can add to it. . . . . Although I would add, I think Woodman was a narcissist long before I started posting. I don't think you can actually turn somebody into one by simply posting about them.

I didn't say you were taking the piss, but you're right I don't understand your explanation, I mean if you're not into anal/piss etc, why were you a member of Woodman's site? What did you think his site was about? Nice pictures of pretty ladies?

What you and Blue Shadow are doing is feeding his narcissism but Blue Shadow has been given special dispensation to do so by the owners of the forum because they see it as a useful counterbalance to the crap Woodman posts about AV/LP. That's debatable, if you ask me, but it's almost like a vocation for Blue Shadow, I can't work out what you're doing here though.

You will never convince me that Woodman doesn't love all the attention, good or bad. Woodman is like Trump, nothing is ever going to happen to him, he's never going to prison, he's never going to end up penniless and broke, he's going to die peacefully and contentedly in his bed when he's 90.

[netzerkaiser]

You will never convince me that Woodman doesn't love all the attention, good or bad. Woodman is like Trump, nothing is ever going to happen to him, he's never going to prison, he's never going to end up penniless and broke, he's going to die peacefully and contentedly in his bed when he's 90.[/quote]

I doubt that. In your bed, in your 80's or 90's on death's door, I'm sure every wrongdoing you've ever done will come back & visit you.

[Iddaoeeok]

I doubt that. In your bed, in your 80's or 90's on death's door, I'm sure every wrongdoing you've ever done will come back & visit you.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. There are many utter cunts who get away with being utter cunts every day of their lives, will never get punished for it, will get rewarded for it in fact, and will end their days blissfully happy.

[netzerkaiser]

I doubt that. In your bed, in your 80's or 90's on death's door, I'm sure every wrongdoing you've ever done will come back & visit you.

You keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better. There are many utter cunts who get away with being utter cunts every day of their lives, will never get punished for it, will get rewarded for it in fact, and will end their days blissfully happy.

You're COMPLETEY right, Brother, & that makes it all the more scary | fuckup for them... look, as Peter Jacksons revisionism on Beatles demise goes... let it be

[ValenciaCF]

:D He did in ''private''... and if she was payed it was ''escort service'', nothing more nothing less.

Exactly!!! He is of the notion that it was porn work but if no camera was involved and nothing to film. He basically paid her to fuck in private which is escory service plain and simple. And I don't think Mia Manarote is a stupid girl to do it for free but he will tell "in private" means he had fun for free because he thinks an adonis or a Greek God. Fat ugly old man is a delusional, narcissistic egotist!

[Panorama]

I wasn't taking the piss Iddaoeeok, I was trying to explain why I post here, but if you didn't understand my explanation there's nothing much I can add to it. . . . . Although I would add, I think Woodman was a narcissist long before I started posting. I don't think you can actually turn somebody into one by simply posting about them.

I didn't say you were taking the piss, but you're right I don't understand your explanation, I mean if you're not into anal/piss etc, why were you a member of Woodman's site? What did you think his site was about? Nice pictures of pretty ladies?

What you and Blue Shadow are doing is feeding his narcissism but Blue Shadow has been given special dispensation to do so by the owners of the forum because they see it as a useful counterbalance to the crap Woodman posts about AV/LP. That's debatable, if you ask me, but it's almost like a vocation for Blue Shadow, I can't work out what you're doing here though.

You will never convince me that Woodman doesn't love all the attention, good or bad. Woodman is like Trump, nothing is ever going to happen to him, he's never going to prison, he's never going to end up penniless and broke, he's going to die peacefully and contentedly in his bed when he's 90.

Hi Iddaoeeok, I'm glad that you knew I wasn't taking the piss as I'm not that kind of character. To answer your question, I like either solo posing or girl/girl sets/movies. B/G I'm ok with but I have to be in the mood for it, and anything else I'm generally not bothered about. I found out that a model I admired did a "casting" with Woodman but it had remained largely unknown and at the time I didn't know she had done one. I eventually saw her casing but it never included the anal "initiation" so I never knew she had even done it. Visiting his forum I found that she had done anal with him and was very shocked because she's NEVER done any B/G scenes (except with her b/f) and never spoke of the incident. She and many other models refused him permission to show the scene which I thought was very strange as I always believed that models agreed to appear on camera and signed a release for it BEFORE they did the scene. So why would so many models agree to do the scene, then refuse to allow it to be published?? The only way I could find out was to go look for myself. (I knew it certainly wasn't going to be Met-Art or Femjoy!)

So I joined the site purely to find out WHY she and other models did this, she was adamant that she wouldn't work with men, so I wanted to find out how Woodman had managed to ger her to not only have sex with him but also do anal. I like to find out FACTS. Many things you hear on the internet from others you have to take with a very large pinch of salt, in most cases, it's just lies. The only way I was going to find out how Pierre Woodman does what he does was to join the site, talk to the man, and see his work. I watched many, many of his videos, which for someone like me who isn't into that genre was very difficult. Keeping an open mind I also understand that we're all different and sexual tastes vary greatly, But what shouldn't (but does) vary greatly is our basic treatment of other human beings.
I think in some cases people become desensitized to situations that should tell you to stop and think about what you are doing, religious extremists for example. Many of us would be horrified to see a terrorist cutting other persons head off with a penknife. But that terrorist has done that so many times that it's nothing and quite normal to them. Seeing Woodman treating women the way he does, and how disrespectfully he speaks about them along with a whole host of other disgusting things may be "normal" to him and some of his members, but for the rest of us in the actual "normal" world it most certainly isn't! Now I know that things said about women are just as bad here but I haven't studied anything to do with Legal Porn or Anal Vids, I've had no need to. My only problem is with Pierre Woodman, and that leads me onto answering your second observation about not being able to make a difference.

I have spoken to a model who was very close to talking with Woodman. I managed to convince her that the person she was going to see isn't going to help her. She allowed me to send her captures of Woodman's conversations with his members, I gave her links to some of his castings, and most importantly I told her of my own views of him. (I hope) Because of my honesty and openness in explaining why I didn't want to see her falling for his lies and deceit, she spoke with her agency and they agreed that they would NOT send her to him. Admittedly, that was only ONE model. But I made a difference, that was one young woman I hope I have been able to guide away from that man. If you see now on his forum he isn't releasing the names of the victims he's acquiring from Brillbabes, or he's putting them in stupid wigs to disguise them because he knows I'm actively contacting young models and warning them of him. If he wasn't worried about that he wouldn't do it. But he knows there is someone out there with the power to make a difference and the fact that I'm making him change tactics validates my struggle. I know I'm probably never going to win on my own, good lord the man's been around since the beginning of time, but I'm going to give it a bloody good go and I hope that others will join me because I truly believe he can be brought down.

Brendan Behan said "all publicity is good publicity" and I'm sure this is true for Woodman, but should we all just stand back and just allow humiliation, lies and deceit to flourish?? To quote another saying "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is that good men do nothing" That is exactly what I believe, and that's why I continue to pester Woodman here on this forum and contact as many young women as I possibly can because I can't stand by and do nothing.

Hope that explains why I'm here.

[ValenciaCF]

So now he finds it funny when girls are in this business for the money. Please tell us what's so amusing Pierre??? I will wait for your answer. What is so funny that you need to laugh at models who are doing porn for money. Is it not a business? You think you can humiliate them because they don't want to accept to fuck you for free like you did with Marquize and Kirshley? So according to you, pornstars must be in this business only for pleasure and not for their own financial motivation??? Please tell where you get this stupid mentality from? Don't be an asswipe please! Because if that's the case then you won't be charging your members subscription fees, you will also be doing this work for free as well. Because if you weren't yourself motivated by money then you won't be asking people to support you on your forum and asking them to become members. At the end of the day you are a hypocrite because you are selfish and rude because you know for a fact you are also driven by money. Everybody is!!! Not everybody have their dream job like you. Some people have normal job that they don't enjoy in real life but they go to work because they need the money, not because they enjoy going to work. This is how porn girls can relate to normal people in life. So please don't be a fucking asshole and watch what you say to models because you sound like an absolute dickhead!!! The egomaniac inside you make you say dumb things. A girl does not need to enjoy sex with you or oblige to satisfu your own personal agenda. She is doing a porn scene so pay her properly and stop carrying tales about them wanting money. Learn to shut your filthy mouth because other producers are not complaining like small baby like you about girls feeling obliged to "must" enjoy a porn scene wth you and not the money.

[ValenciaCF]

The girls are porn "actresses". They get paid to "act" ! To show pleasure on video whether it is real or not is not your business or none of your concern to publicly comment about their motivation for being in porn. It is made for the audience and consumer, not for your own selfish needsa and reasons. You're a stupid pig of a producer who can't understand such a simple concept. So I hope you understand now why people call you unprofessional because you make yourself look that way by all the stupid things you say and all the girls yoi gossip about. You cause fight and make trouble with all of them but always you take out a fat stack of money and give the girl and theu will come back to work with you amd suddenly all is forgotten they become your princess again, but you got big mouth to tell they like money after you give it to them for buying their ass!

[robin_reid]

What a jerk. If I were Brillbabes I would be ashamed to be tagged in such a tweet like this.

[J2369___]

Why the fuck would PW say that the asshole, I wouldn’t be surprised if he did just start an argument with Sylvia, girls deserve heaps better in my opinion, working for PW must be absolute hell, typical PW always starting drama.

[BlueShadow]

What a jerk. If I were Brillbabes I would be ashamed to be tagged in such a tweet like this.

Great publicity he gives...XD
And they continue and will continue to do business with that clown.
Everything he tweets is bullshit and ego referred, I thought only on the forum. LOL
Quoting Kittina Ivory 1-word-joke. She was right. Even more ridiculous those in the business who are ok with this. And this includes Kittina herself who then worked with him anyway.... (not for the money, of course...why would Brillbabes send a model in his ''productions'', money is secondary...they work for charity XD) Hypocrisy we said?

[ValenciaCF]

So the Gorilla want to pretend like he is a big man in this industry and he is a stepping stone for success??? Lets see who he made famous and how many nominations he received because all his friends and ex friends have all been nominated for awards. How many did PW get and how many of these girls started porn with him??? A big fat Zero nominations he got. Go hide under rock. His mouth is bigger than his brain. Most of the girls are coming from Julia. Even his French Counterparts will win awards, but him he will nothing. He can only pretend like he is big. So he can talk garbage about Tushy and Rocco and everyone but they are the ones successful amd LW is just jealous his name can't wven be there. Maybe he would have had a chance with his Woodman films but we all know how that ended for the fsiled photographer with his failesd Indecent Evil Projects and he is now a small fish and he can't make it in the big leagues with his shitty hotel room recordings lol

[ValenciaCF]

What a jerk. If I were Brillbabes I would be ashamed to be tagged in such a tweet like this.

Great publicity he gives...XD
And they continue and will continue to do business with that clown.
Everything he tweets is bullshit and ego referred, I thought only on the forum. LOL
Quoting Kittina Ivory 1-word-joke. She was right. Even more ridiculous those in the business who are ok with this. And this includes Kittina herself who then worked with him anyway.... (not for the money, of course...why would Brillbabes send a model in his ''productions'', money is secondary...they work for charity XD) Hypocrisy we said?

And I love how he contacted Kittina immediately after someone made him aware that she insulted him and he thought it was a joke lol what a dumbass he had no idea she clowned him. So he contacted her to explain and tild her to write on [spam] it was misubderstanding lol classic!!!

[Panorama]

So here we have yet another example of Pierre's strange and completely detached views of the world. Now before his pack of rabid wolves (the real one's anyway) start crying that she agreed to do the scene with him and she signed release papers etc. The purpose of this post isn't to show how he "flim-flams" another young woman into performing for him, it's to show how heartless and cold he is.
The model in question is called Charlott Lashiene and she appears in front of the Woodman camera for an interview and an anal "initiation" way back in 2011. Now after the scene is shot, Miss Lashiene is the toast of the town and yet another of Woodman's "next big stars"! However, this goes completely tits up when her boyfriend and family are made aware of the fact that their daughter has been filmed being sodomised by Pierre Woodman!

But although it's not actually Woodman's fault (technically) that this happened, he decided to take a sideswipe at Charlott and her family by saying " Yes, but since then I have realized that neither HER nor her family are very nice".

He completely removes himself from any involvement in what has occurred despite the fact that HE shot the film in the first place and very unprofessionally passes comment on the actress AND her completely unrelated (to the scene) family!
Apparently, the model's MOTHER quite rightly pleaded with Woodman to remove the scene from his site. Now any normal human being would have been horrified by this, I certainly would have, wouldn't you? One of the girl's mothers has just called me (obviously upset) and begged for me to remove a humiliating video of her daughter. Do I (A) Remove it immediately out of respect for the model's MOTHER regardless of my feelings or thoughts? or (B) Be a cold heartless bastard and complain that pirates have already spread your daughter's actions around the net so I'm not going to remove it and take as much money as I possibly can from her scene? Of course, you know which option Pierre took.
But the best part is Woodman's unbelievable comment today about how people conduct themselves, it's 100% hypocrisy gold contained within the exact same thread!!

This comment is coming from a man who has admitted himself that he has deceitfully filmed models being sodomised without their knowledge. He has blatantly lied telling models he will make them stars. He has ***CONTRIBUTED*** damage to models who have eventually gone off the rails and/or committed suicide. Not to mention all the models whose careers he's ended in exactly the same way because of situations like this, I could go on, and on.
And finally, he then shows how deeply racist he is by surreptitiously and quite unnecessarily making comments about immigration, something the thread wasn't even about!

Pierre I thank you, it seems like almost every day you provide me with brand new ammunition that I can show to budding models in order to put them off ever working for you. Please do keep posting!

[robin_reid]

Years ago happened with me something similar with a young girl that contacted me wishing to be porn model, I did shoot her 2 pov scenes for her initiation, and I published one of them, also I sent her to other spanish companies like Cumlouder (who shot a groupal scene with 5 guys), Nacho Vidal/Evil Angel that also shot her etc… After the release of her first scene her family contacted to me very worried asking me please to take down the video because it caused a big trouble to her family, with signs of suicide included and with proofs of it. Even if I was in my right to not do it, even if I had model releases, video interview, etc I did it with no problem, and also the other companies that did shot her they did not published the scenes. Piracy or indexation in Google it is not an excuse, for example the Mindgeek people were very nice by helping me not only removing the promotional video from their tubes but also contacting directly to Google to eliminate all links, references with her stage name etc etc from google and google images (believe me that it is not easy work). If you want you CAN take down all references from internet from a model that just have 1 released scene. That’s not something that happens every day, but from time to time it happens, and you should to understand and put in the skin of the other people depending to the situation and understand that sometimes young girls makes mistakes like to enter into porn business without having the properly family nor the sorround for this and neither being mentally ready for that.

Woodman is a ruthless monster, a cretin, and with this behavior we can see that he is not the cool and nice person he pretends to be. Thanks God that this poor girl did not debuted with him because she even was listed at Julmodels agency when I think they were still colaborating with him… She contacted with me at same time that contacted with JM. If she debuted with me and my mates in Barcelona instead than in Budapest it was just because she was from Spain.

[ValenciaCF]

So not only is he is producer and director. Now he is also an agent, adviser, travel agent and also the real estate agent for Sylvia Buntarka.

So lets guess what will happen. Sylvia will work alot until christmas, make alot of money or become soft model. Make alot of money and just like that, the most hyped girl of Woodman will disappear and nobody will even remember. He makes girls famous he says. Just like how his Alisia wonderland and Daisy Diamond disappear after working with for him. He seems to end careers instead of make careers.

[Panorama]

Years ago happened with me something similar with a young girl that contacted me wishing to be porn model, I did shoot her 2 pov scenes for her initiation, and I published one of them, also I sent her to other spanish companies like Cumlouder (who shot a groupal scene with 5 guys), Nacho Vidal/Evil Angel that also shot her etc… After the release of her first scene her family contacted to me very worried asking me please to take down the video because it caused a big trouble to her family, with signs of suicide included and with proofs of it. Even if I was in my right to not do it, even if I had model releases, video interview, etc I did it with no problem, and also the other companies that did shot her they did not published the scenes. Piracy or indexation in Google it is not an excuse, for example the Mindgeek people were very nice by helping me not only removing the promotional video from their tubes but also contacting directly to Google to eliminate all links, references with her stage name etc etc from google and google images (believe me that it is not easy work). If you want you CAN take down all references from internet from a model that just have 1 released scene. That’s not something that happens every day, but from time to time it happens, and you should to understand and put in the skin of the other people depending to the situation and understand that sometimes young girls makes mistakes like to enter into porn business without having the properly family nor the sorround for this and neither being mentally ready for that.

Woodman is a ruthless monster, a cretin, and with this behavior we can see that he is not the cool and nice person he pretends to be. Thanks God that this poor girl did not debuted with him because she even was listed at Julmodels agency when I think they were still colaborating with him… She contacted with me at same time that contacted with JM. If she debuted with me and my mates in Barcelona instead than in Budapest it was just because she was from Spain.

Thanks for that information Robin, and there I was thinking that the least he COULD have done was remove the video from his site! That would have been at least an honourable gesture by him for a mother who was worried about her daughter. But from what I've been seeing and reading about Woodman, his response is completely in keeping with his selfish and pig-headed attitude more worried about piracy of his site rather than just being a decent human being.

[ValenciaCF]

Oh sure. Sylvia paid her own flight ticket to travel to you so she could fuck for free and have fun with lunatic old man like you. Speak so much lies. Why the fuck will this girl travel all the way to Budapest to suck this old grandpas dick who is a stranger to him, when she can fuck any boy she want in her country...You sure you gave her €400, not €4000??? I'm sure Alisia Wonderland told her go have sex with Pierre because he's the best fucker in the world lololol yeah right we believe you Pierre. Or maybe the conversation went more like go to Pierre, he pays the girls the best. If you let him fuck your ass, he will give you $10 000 more than what you get for escort. He pays. So he make fun of the same girls he fucks and pays by saying they like money and adamant that it's his right to say it about models in public.

But I see now on Amaris thread Mr Spielberg ask him a good question so be careful because soon he will boot you from forum when he feel threatened. The reason why he don't work with Amaris again is because she did her anal at another company so she have a right to choose where to do her anal but then he want to bitch and moan and cry about it like a baby because he didn't get it first and start to hold grudges with her. So good they told him. This man is too arrogant and have too much pride and ego. So why he worked with Eden Ivy when she already got her ass fucked before. Because he wanted to pay her for escort and get a taste?