Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[dap-addict]

It has been a rule over years that Bp lier APE denounced with his foes always exactly what he did in his own so called porn studio. Transferred to this questions apple juice instead of real piss, transferred to other of his main questions numbed girls assholes with different means up to cocain. He always trows the first stone when he in fact is the main culprit. Its so low! But honestly I dont expect any decency from that lier, none at all. All we can do is warn the girls!

[Panorama]

I wasn't going to comment on Pierre Woodman's post in the Anita Blanche thread because I think it's already caused quite a backlash of very angry responses. But I'm going to say what I think on behalf of the average guy, someone who isn't part of this particular scene which I know many of you are. And I must thank the owners of Pornbox for letting me say what I think over the last few months because I'm sure most of it has been very uneducated from a DP, DAP, RGS, whatever they mean point of view.
I can't get my head around ANYONE wanting to have someone else piss in their mouths or all over them whatever. But I do understand that some people DO like that, indeed actresses who like that so please don't think I'm having a go at you all for being into that. Even Pierre's members I totally get what you like about his style. Yes, his camera work is very amateur, which makes it realistic. I get it. The cheap hotel rooms have a sleazy quality to them. I get that. Even Pierre himself. Being fat, overweight, hairy, and completely unattractive yet managing to have sex with goddess-like women makes him the complete antithesis of a proper porn star male. He's ugly just like us. I get it.
But I think in all the melley that's gone off in the hours since his post we focused on who does what better and what is real or not, and not looked hard enough at what he actually said.

Quote: "But I don't do that, it's even the opposite, sometimes I even keep the morning one, very stinky and rotten in order to really throw in their mouths the worst calamity in the world and then give them a real experience with it."

Now I'm not a pornstar and I'm certainly not a psychologist, but just read that back and try and understand what is REALLY going through this man's head. He has been so utterly and blindly enraged by what that member said he has written down EXACTLY what was in his head at the time without even thinking about what it might sound like to his members.

We've just seen inside the mind of a sadist.

[dap-addict]

Now I'm not a pornstar and I'm certainly not a psychologist, but just read that back and try and understand what is REALLY going through this man's head.

Now I read it back only now and that just utterly hilarious! LOL!
So piss is only piss if there is a maximum amount X of water drunken and as soon as its more than piss turns into non-piss, so that PW lier APE studio (= almost certainly money from other biz laundering) site can call it RGS, R = real, LOL!

And I am also a dry fan really and always hope for the girls they drink gallons of water before they piss, 5 litres minimum, but from girls performing I know that no matter how many liters of water they drunk it always has that certain smell still. So does the smell make it piss, or is it the % of water? Or can we agree that only what Bp lier APE calls "Real" is the real thing, just to make life easier? XD! - Looks like more and more we discuss parallel alternative Universe here!
But dont tell me sb was a looney, a real looney, because again there is big $$$ involved and real people are victims of that Bp lier APE. Thus lets do our utmost best to warn them!

[robin_reid]

(= almost certainly money from other biz laundering) site can call it RGS, R = real, LOL!

Prostitution business

[ValenciaCF]

Honestly someone should quote that disgusting statement of his and post it on his [spam] to let everyone see what a maniac he really is. Imagine glamourizing what he said and being proud of himself to tell that his piss is more real because it's more disgusting than others. He is stupid or what? Sounds like his brain is not fully developed this man. He is obsessed at discrediting others with his lies but when he gets calles out he doesn't like it. He says his members feel he is right but then someone should ask him if this is true then why he keeps removing his members who are questioning him about his false statements.

[ValenciaCF]

Better yet...ask him to show his Liz Rainbow piss scene and see who is the liar. You will see how fast he will lock that thread again lol. He has big mouth to talk about real piss when he can't even get a good editor to get the job done for his Liz Rainbow scene in order to show his fans hahahah lets see how you make special effects for the girls. Why you do the effect for some scenes and don't let the full video play out??? "Mr Pierre the Editor Liar Woodman"

[BlueShadow]

He always trows the first stone when he in fact is the main culprit. Its so low! But honestly I dont expect any decency from that lier, none at all. All we can do is warn the girls!

And that's why I say: let him talk. In the end it comments itself. He's said so many things over the years and spoke bad of agency an girls that he's bogged down in his own crap, it's easy to prove him incoherent, sometimes it's boring.
Agencies should give a better picture of the kind of character they sent them...but we know that when there is big money and greedy persons...
Then when you show how at Brillbabes years ago they talked about PW and his way of working they pretend not to see...money makes you blind and deaf it seems XD

[dap-addict]

Rookie girls dont read porn forums, the dont stumble over all these contradictions.
They need money and have heard the Bp lier APE was welknown and had connections for jobs.
Sustainable porn fans have to figure out first how to warn these rookies, and no, I wouldnt count on all adult agencies. But scouts might be more cautious in the future for instance. And real porn studios might warn such rookie girls. If they have model threads in forums with free speech like here also fans can warn them. There are ways around HIM!
But he wont stop to spit into decent porn producers soups, since its just too much EGO and also money and power of 'kompromat' at stake.

[Panorama]

Rookie girls dont read porn forums, the dont stumble over all these contradictions.
They need money and have heard the Bp lier APE was welknown and had connections for jobs.
Sustainable porn fans have to figure out first how to warn these rookies, and no, I wouldnt count on all adult agencies. But scouts might be more cautious in the future for instance. And real porn studios might warn such rookie girls. If they have model threads in forums with free speech like here also fans can warn them. There are ways around HIM!
But he wont stop to spit into decent porn producers soups, since its just too much EGO and also money and power of 'kompromat' at stake.

dap, you're right they don't read forums like this. But I can confirm that it is possible to contact them via the usual channels. I've spoken to one young model who had never heard of Woodman and so I pleaded with her to avoid him like the plague. I didn't expect her to reply to me again, but she did! She said that she had been in touch with her agency and they had said they had no intention of sending her to him because of the "issues" involved with him, so I wasn't to worry about her even meeting him. I take that as a MASSIVE win, as I've been able to warn at least ONE young model. I'll continue to warn as many models as I possibly can.

[Panorama]

I've got to hand it to him, he's good...... but not very original.
Remember the double glazing "flim-flam" artists I was talking about? Probably not, but one of their classic manoeuvres is if they get caught in a lie or want to momentarily distract a potential customer they use what's called a diversionary tactic.
Here Pierre uses it to perfection with his members by creating "Melissa" the ONLY woman EVER to appear in the forum!
On Monday he's just made a huge fopar in front of his members by showing just how discussing he really is, and while all the shit is still falling from the sky on Tuesday Melissa turns up! Blink and you missed it!
All of a sudden Anita Blanche is forgotten about and all attention is focused on Melissa. And the perfect "Flim Flam" is created.
Of course, Melissa could be real, but I'm sure I've seen those pictures somewhere before.
But if that was you, Pete, I congratulate you, you made your members look like idiots yet again.

By the way, the picture is my little contribution to the scam..... it's not so professional but anyway.

[Chubakka]

Could be fake, and done by PW to distract the attention of those few real and paying forum members from the other topics where he was caught in lies, and he cannot close the discussion...
But can even be a real woman would enjoy the forum- on.this case, it's hilarious how he ask the new forum member to send him photo where She's showing her ID card.
PW who's the best in sharing datas in public without the consent of those involved.
So he make difference between female and male forum members, or he just take áll women same as those he fucked in the ass.,

[dap-addict]

Melissa asked her BF for permission to join an adult forum. LOL! LOL! LOL!
Shows a lot of that Bp lier APE lowess, the lowest a businesman and friend of 10000+ girls can get almost But yep, FlimFlam is a good trick, indeed.

[BlueShadow]

Rookie girls dont read porn forums, the dont stumble over all these contradictions.
They need money and have heard the Bp lier APE was welknown and had connections for jobs.
Sustainable porn fans have to figure out first how to warn these rookies, and no, I wouldnt count on all adult agencies. But scouts might be more cautious in the future for instance. And real porn studios might warn such rookie girls. If they have model threads in forums with free speech like here also fans can warn them. There are ways around HIM!
But he wont stop to spit into decent porn producers soups, since its just too much EGO and also money and power of 'kompromat' at stake.

dap, you're right they don't read forums like this. But I can confirm that it is possible to contact them via the usual channels. I've spoken to one young model who had never heard of Woodman and so I pleaded with her to avoid him like the plague. I didn't expect her to reply to me again, but she did! She said that she had been in touch with her agency and they had said they had no intention of sending her to him because of the "issues" involved with him, so I wasn't to worry about her even meeting him. I take that as a MASSIVE win, as I've been able to warn at least ONE young model. I'll continue to warn as many models as I possibly can.

but in fact I was not referring only to porn forums ... there are many ways...
The good thing is that you don't even have to say much...just show what he says, the way to speak and behave on a public forum. Which girls can consider normal a ''producer'' like that...certainly not the ''normal'' ones.
Show what he says, then everyone will make his own idea... (even though the majority of the time money power wins out.)

[Panorama]

Amazingly, even though she (he) was complaining about being "treated like a piece of meat" she allows this sweet-talking member to say "If you don't want to be on Pierre's to-do list, 99% of us aren't interested anyway" No woman with any self-respect would have come back to the forum after that put-down.
So no, sorry this is one of Woodman's alter-egos or one of his henchmen for sure. . . maybe Gabriella who knows.

But yeah Blue, money will win out in a lot of cases particularly when this guy is preying on young models from countries like Hungary which are obviously still so backwards the laws are allowing their young citizens to be tricked into doing some pretty ghastly things with him. I suppose corruption in Eastern Europe is still pretty bad, that's why he hides there because he knows he'd never get away with what he does in the west. I also suppose that explains why he doesn't win any awards either(apart from the fact that his films are generally crap anyway) because none of the companies wants to be associated with him for those reasons also.

But the way I see it is that if I can get just one model to turn him down it's a win. I know I can't stop them all and in the end, most are going to probably see him, but just getting that one means everything to me.

[BlueShadow]

yes, certainly the guru of porn explained things well about the business...since I don't think she did anything else after that. But who cares, as long as he stole an anal and a DP from a naive girl looking for money. Next up.
They are so fucking blind, gosh.

[ValenciaCF]

The story about this "Melissa" has been an interesting one. A seemingly fan girl of PW who he suspects of being a man. Who knows maybe it is but what was interesting is that "she" came there as a fan with intentions of being on the forum and no other specific reason and yet PW forced her to "prove" she is who she says she is. Off course many of his members surprisingly also say that it wasn't necessary as she was not there to be a pornstar but only to make friends. So she questioned his ethics of asking her for this and why he never treated the other members the same.

But that's not important. The most interesting thing is what he says next :

"Sorry but a woman who has no problem to expose her tits here but start complain when I'm asking a proof she is real with a paper having my name on it IS JUST A FUCKING FAKE !!! "

Its funny because going back to Liz Rainbow when he had no problem to say Liz Rainbow was lying and he did the same thing he's asking this "Melissa" when he started to complain after his members asked him for a simple proof showing the video that it was real he couldn't do it because it was a fake and didn't exist.

Another thing is that he talks so much about his competitors causing pain and ruining the ass of a girl as if he doesn't do it himself. Now look at this girls facial expression below and tell me if she is having her "first enjoying time" or if she is petrified of this horrible asshole apeman. He talks alot but I can only see bullshit that comes out. Bragging about girls staying anal exclusive only for him after so many years when it's so far from the truth that he is not a pro and these girls were so horrified of their anal with this man that they stopped doing after him period! Lets not forget his sadistic laugh after pissing in the mouth of a girl and watching her discomfort. What a stupid old man and his members have their noses shoved so far up his ass they can't see logic.

[Panorama]

yes, certainly the guru of porn explained things well about the business...since I don't think she did anything else after that. But who cares, as long as he stole an anal and a DP from a naive girl looking for money. Next up.
They are so fucking blind, gosh.

I've just watched.... well skipped through Marquize casting (which was on a tube site) and found the part where Pierre appears to leave her speechless when he questions her about why should a man lick her pussy when she doesn't like to "eat sperm"? Is it not fair that a man licks you and gives you pleasure and you don't eat his sperm and give him pleasure? It completely bamboozled (English for "confused") her. But again it's a typical "flim-flam" artists move, where the 'mark' (unsuspecting customer) is made to feel guilty because they are not reciprocating a favour done for them. I give(I'm good) you don't(You're bad) The vast majority of people are going to fall for this tactic because they don't want to appear to be unwilling or uncooperative. Young models are going to be "bamboozled" by this every time and it helps to explain why so many of them fall for his flim-flam techniques.

If there are any young models out there that have been looking at this forum and you are considering going to visit Mr Woodman, first of all, DON'T. But if you do and he asks you similar questions, ask him this for example.
Ok, so if I let you piss on me with your stinkiest piss, should I not be allowed to piss on you with mine? Or, if you want to sodomize me, should I not be allowed to sodomize you too? (with a strap on of course!) That ISN't what Woodman will want to hear because as we know that would place YOU in charge and that isn't what Pierre wants. I guarantee, he would NEVER agree to this despite it being perfectly reasonable.
A Flim-flam artist like Pierre Woodman is always good at getting what he wants by making you feel guilty or making you feel better about yourself by either avoiding disaster or by gaining some reward. It's all designed to put you on the back foot and get him what he wants. You won't be able to outwit him, he's been doing this far too long, the only way of avoiding ending up like all the others is to either say NO and mean NO, or better still, not visit him at all.

[ValenciaCF]

Well he cannot get his way with all girls. The smart girls with the strong personality he does not like because he cannot take advantage of and that's why he doesn't like them and talks shit about them because he can't "control" them amd we all know he needs to be in control of everything. He don't like very much the American girls because he knows they do not take shit from anyone and will put him in place.

[ValenciaCF]

He keeps imagining things that girls fuck with him because they like him lol

[dap-addict]

Just pure love and passion, with no secret ideas beyond porn, but how has HE turned into such a lowlife in past 19 years? Or was it all inside already already than and turned out only in 2014?
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/103627
And how dare AVLP sell such almost devine love? And First-ness, being always first above all? How they dared to buy such content anyway and to re-sell his selfless gratitude, his devine and selfless orgasm donorship, his endless purity? LOL!

[Panorama]

Just pure love and passion, with no secret ideas beyond porn, but how has HE turned into such a lowlife in past 19 years? Or was it all inside already already than and turned out only in 2014?
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/103627
And how dare AVLP sell such almost devine love? And First-ness, being always first above all? How they dared to buy such content anyway and to re-sell his selfless gratitude, his devine and selfless orgasm donorship, his endless purity? LOL!

Speaking of Anetta dap, has she ever talked about her time with Woodman? I briefly managed to contact her, but I couldn't get her to talk about Woodman at all. Now I know that's not proof of his transgressions but the fact that she didn't give him a glowing recommendation either speaks volumes if you ask me. I found the following post on another forum which I think is interesting but can anyone shed light on what this poster meant with regards to Lenka and Anetta?

Quote:

"There's another possibility. That ************* brought them to Woodman, possibly because the spider forced her to. Woodman pioneered a lot of the techniques that people like Czech Casting or Girls do porn used so successful to turn unsuspecting amateurs into unwilling pornstars. And this was also when he was in his prime. There was a stretch where it didn't matter who you were, or what you did, hide your daughters, sisters, girlfriends, wives, and mothers - If Woodman wanted to fuck them, then no matter what you or even she wanted, no matter how reluctant or how against it the girls were, it was almost certain that she would be doing very rough hardcore porn broadcasted to the entire world. Thousands of girls who would never in a million years do porn or any kind of sexual modeling suddenly found themselves being power fucked, humiliated, and degraded like common street whores. Before high speed internet, many of them could try to hide it, and out of the few hundred who never did any kind of modeling again, I bet tons are married and their husbands today have no idea...

Anyway, one of these techniques is the use of the reference girl. You get one girl on the hook, and you use her to bring you all of her unsuspecting friends. Between their friend vouching for woodman, and the use of his older (but still attractive) female translator also vouching for him, you can see how young girls easily got caught in the Spider's web.

So, one of the techniques he used in addition to that was flipping the casting into more scenes. In the Woodman forum, he confirms that he anally casted Veronica Vanoza (Bittnerova) and that she begged him not to release it because she felt humiliated that it wasn't an act or a glamorous scene. It was an older, unattractive man successfully turning her into a prostitute for the night, which in these cultures is the lowest. So she signed to do more scenes with Woodman and that's when the spider most likely successfully pulled the multiple scene contract bait and switch and pissed in her mouth.

Similarly, with Lenka and Anetta, he absolutely destroyed those poor girls (one of which had solely been a fashion model before and not even done nude work). Just entire videos of abuse porn beating them down. He probably held those to get them to do more scenes and then released them after the spider had drained them dry. Anetta never even did b/g missionary with anyone other than her boyfriend after and soon retired from porn after solely doing lesbian work after that. yet woodman tore her ass up. This is a formidable person." end Quote.

[robin_reid]

He keeps imagining things that girls fuck with him because they like him lol

Hilarious

[robin_reid]

Then when you show how at Brillbabes years ago they talked about PW and his way of working they pretend not to see...money makes you blind and deaf it seems XD

I don’t think it is only about money. He probably has them threatened and blackmailed, something common on him, and take in mind that he is really dangerous, willing even to pay for killing people, if he decide.

[viewer2]

But yeah Blue, money will win out in a lot of cases particularly when this guy is preying on young models from countries like Hungary which are obviously still so backwards the laws are allowing their young citizens to be tricked into doing some pretty ghastly things with him. I suppose corruption in Eastern Europe is still pretty bad, that's why he hides there because he knows he'd never get away with what he does in the west.

Let's perhaps refrain from making patronising statements about Eastern Europe.
Most of European porn companies are based in Hungary or Czech Republic.
For instance, Rocco lives in Hungary, he fucks Eastern European models, that doesn't mean he's corrupt.
AV is also based in Eastern Europe...

The root of the problem does not lie in the place he lives.
I'm not even sure he does anything illegal.
The root of the problem lies in the agency which sends new shy girls directly to him to be fucked in the ass or get DP-ed whereas they have no idea!

If this all were in the press (incl. Hungarian press), it could be different!).

But let's refrain from being prejudiced on a country or region. After all, a lot of models come from Eastern Europe and we respect them, don't we?

[Panorama]

But yeah Blue, money will win out in a lot of cases particularly when this guy is preying on young models from countries like Hungary which are obviously still so backwards the laws are allowing their young citizens to be tricked into doing some pretty ghastly things with him. I suppose corruption in Eastern Europe is still pretty bad, that's why he hides there because he knows he'd never get away with what he does in the west.

Let's perhaps refrain from making patronising statements about Eastern Europe.
Most of European porn companies are based in Hungary or Czech Republic.
For instance, Rocco lives in Hungary, he fucks Eastern European models, that doesn't mean he's corrupt.
AV is also based in Eastern Europe...

The root of the problem does not lie in the place he lives.
I'm not even sure he does anything illegal.
The root of the problem lies in the agency which sends new shy girls directly to him to be fucked in the ass or get DP-ed whereas they have no idea!

If this all were in the press (incl. Hungarian press), it could be different!).

But let's refrain from being prejudiced on a country or region. After all, a lot of models come from Eastern Europe and we respect them, don't we?

Pierre Woodman would not be able to do what he does in the west period, that's why he hides in Hungary. It is what it is. If my statement sounded patronizing I don't apologize for it because I was making a statement I believe is based on fact.
I don't know Rocco... I've heard of him and seen him, I don't know enough about him to make any statement or judgment about him. As for AV, I haven't the faintest clue who he/she/they are, so again I'm not judging them.
Like yourself, I too am very doubtful that Woodman has done anything "illegal" despite many in here insisting that he has. But what he DOES get away with morally, ethically etc, that isn't now accepted in the west IS obviously accepted in the east. I say the east meaning the system of government, not models, not directors, not 99% of the companies. I have so much respect for the models from Eastern Europe because these beautiful women are often making sacrifices and giving up their own self-esteem for what is our "entertainment". I currently spend a great deal of my time trying to warn any/all young models about this man because I believe with every thread of my existence that he is bad and should be put out of business, so yes I really do respect the models and take exception to any suggestion that I might not. If these countries looked after their own citizens like they should I wouldn't be doing this, and this 46-page long thread wouldn't need to exist. The fact that "The system" allows men like Pierre Woodman to operate out of their countries (or country) with impunity (and the agencies that send the models to him) makes them backwards in my view.

That's the last I'll comment on that because I'm not here to fight members, I think we're all here to fight a common enemy. I just felt I had to explain my view right or wrong.

[BlueShadow]

[BlueShadow]

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[viewer2]

Thank you Blue for these pictures, I like them

Panorama is right, let's not start an argument. I'm also not here to start a fight with anyone.
Now, thanks to Panorama, we know that the West is morally and ethically superior to the East, and that Woodman "hides" in Eastern Europe, well, so be it.

My point is, we need to have a fact-based analysis instead of making general statements.

Let's look at the facts and analyse why Woodman lives in Eastern Europe and not in France.
The first reason is historical. In the late nineties and early 2000s, a large majority of porn models were Hungarian. Therefore, most European porn producers moved there so that they could be on the spot. Many moved: not only Woodman but also Rocco, Le Castel, Christophe Clark and many others. (then, it changed, there was a Czech wave and now the majority are from Russia, but that's another story and those who had moved to Hungary remained there, whereas "newer" porn producers went to CZ, that's why pornbox/AV is based there).
The second reason is the agencies. Porn agencies are forbidden in France. They are authorised and operate in the US, in Hungary, in Czech Republic, and I think also in Spain (I'm not sure of this last one), etc... We all know that Woodman is getting old, he can't catch girls in the street or in malls as he used to do 25 years ago, on the one hand because of his current looks and on the other hand because the world has changed, girls have changed, and yes, even in Eastern European, even in Hungary, girls are not impressed any more when they see a foreigner, whereas it was very, very different in the 90s (and I can say without any exaggeration that I know the country very well, girls there are not as naive any more as some here would like to believe). So, Woodman needs the agencies in order to find him girls. Without the agencies, he cannot do anything.

And here we are at the core of the problem. If an agency, be it Czech or Hungarian, sends him a model whereas the model wrote "no anal" and/or "no old man", the responsibility is with the agency in the first place. Because they will have deceived the model.

My understanding is that Woodman does not appear in such a good light with Hungarian courts these days and xxx announced that Woodman recently lost a case before a Hungarian court.
But the question is what the legal basis would be to have a Hungarian court, say, forbid his castings. If you can't prove he has done something illegal, nothing can be done.
Many porn companies that deceived models were closed in the recent months, see GDP in the US or Czech Casting in CZ. if it did not happen with him, it's because there was no model who went to the police against him or actually against the agency. There was also no generalised [spam] shitstorm linked to him (see for instance FakeTaxi in the UK who was accused of abusing models and who got a big [spam] shitstorm or see French Bukkake in France who seemingly was raping girls and treating them like meat and got arrested after an article in the press following some girls taking a stance on [spam]).

To conclude, I would say that it would be for models to take a stance. If we see more and more models claim that they had a problem with him, as I think happened with some models recently, and if that appears somewhere in the press or on the public domain, things could evolve.
But let's not lose time with general statements...

[ValenciaCF]

So PW can scold his members for making fun of the way a model looks, but he can humiliate and call girls like Zlata unattractive, not pretty and big and fat without any repercussions. Oh the hypocrosy of this man!

[ayrtight]

Olivia Sparkle -- has been mentioned here .

No use in creating a thread for her due to the usual complications ?

[BlueShadow]

Olivia Sparkle -- has been mentioned here .

No use in creating a thread for her due to the usual complications ?

For who? She is not even an adult model.
Another girl caught in his web and ruined. First in his forum they make fun of her boyfriend and then as usual he blames others.

Then you only have to watch her video and see that she was already uncomfortable when PW told her to say that she is a "whore" or that he was her "master"... Great work in building a career, really...

[ayrtight]

^
Nope .

Has shot HC for different sites .

[Panorama]

What Woodman doesn't realize is that no "wickedness" is directed at models on the circus forum..... It's directed only at him!

[BlueShadow]

^
Nope .

Has shot HC for different sites .

And look now...

[BlueShadow]

'When she will come back from Finland'...too bad that she is in Budapest...as we can se in the picture she posted above

He could tell that she was currently busy with a real production (and not the only one it seems...). PW and his continued manipulation of reality. And people take the bait...

[ValenciaCF]

Well Olivia Sparkle was dubbed to be the next superstar and now she is depressed and doesn't look like she will even have a career. Who do you think is the source of it sll. Another girl ruined courtesy of the ape and he pretend he build theie career.

Mimi Cica is with Rocco so offcourse he is going to play the pretend game she is in Finland hahaha. She's in Budapest so why you couldn't make the scene? She's with someone better obviously but he can't tell it. We are not stupid. Your members can see how you lie all the time. How ironic he calls himself the spider because everyone know how he get caught in his own web of lies.

Here's another lie. Your soft model Silvia Sin has already made porn before. So do your homework and stop lying to all your members she started with you and did her first B/G. Unless this right here is her twin sister.........

[ValenciaCF]

Well Valmont, who is another one of his ass lickers on that forum hasn't got a clue what he's talking about. So when I see this I start to laugh. PW the best director? Please tell what makes him a good director because his clips are not industry standard at all. Terrible resolution, I don't know what 4K nonsense he talk about, always shot in dark and dim cheap hotel rooms thst's so untidy with shit lying everywhere and all over the place in the rooms, no lighting whatsoever and no visuals of penetration shots. You can only see dark movements and shitty angles. Your master is a failed photographer who has no idea how to film professionally. Amateur models can film content 100times more appealing than PW. So shut your mouth about being best Dirtor. Go and look at Rocco and Juliana they will show you what a top Director really is and how porn is supposed to be look and be filmed

[Panorama]

Incredible. Another young model who visited "The master" three months later is sad and depressed and everyone is wondering why? Just look at some of the comments on her Twitter you morons. It's obvious you are all so detached from reality that you actually believed Olivia really did like having an old, fat hairy man's cock up her arse. . . I'd go as far as to say ANY man's cock up her arse. She did what she did FOR THE MONEY nothing else. He's not a wizard he's not a "master" he's a bloke with money (and not a nice bloke either) that's all. I bet when she saw all your completely belittling comments on Twitter that basically reduced her to a "thing" to be used, I'm sure she felt absolutely wonderful about herself and what she lowered herself to.

And you're all wondering why she's depressed???!!!

The last place in the world she would want to gain solace is with you lot!

[Panorama]

Pierre is that you??? It's obvious that "Leslie" whoever you are visits this site because the only forum I know of that actually discusses Woodman's antics with no censorship is this one. So I hope she/he sees this. Whatever. Most people who post here have very strong feelings against the man for right or wrong reasons. Probably because they know him on a personal level. I however do not, I only know what I've seen with my eyes and heard with my ears. I'm convinced that (from what I've seen and heard) he is a very bad character with a very misaligned moral compass just to mention two of his failings.
I don't doubt for one minute there are pornstars who like him and enjoy everything that he does for them, he's had 30 years after all to perfect the technique. But he's also had that same amount of time to trick, and coerce young models who didn't know any better and didn't want to do what they did with him. He will do things like taking them to dinner, put them up in the hotel overnight, give tips above what was agreed initially, or even paying for their teeth to be straightened. But this is all part of his scam to get them to do what he wants. He's extremely insidious with this. He has ended more careers than he has started, and there are at least four models that I know of (I'm sure members here can remember many many more!) that never did B/G work after being with Woodman and never allowed him to show their initiations. If he's such a good man. Why?
I like yourself have also spoken with various models as I like to actually hear from the people who have worked with him. Out of probably just over a dozen models I've contacted, non of them would say he treated them badly. Is your point proven? Well no, because while they wouldn't say he treated them badly, none of them said he was a "good guy" either. In fact, I got the distinct impression that they really didn't want to talk to me about him at all,(in a legal sense) So for the time being and thanks to the internet, I'm going to continue to do everything in my power to warn as many young models as I possibly can about him (I already stopped one) because somebody has to do something, we're living in 2021 not1990 and young women can't be treated in the same way as they were in those days and Pierre has to understand that. I am only one but remember David slew Goliath.

However, I do have accepting ears "Leslie" if you have evidence to prove all my conceptions of Pierre wrong I'm willing to see it. I'm sure you can join the forum show us your evidence and try to win at least one ardent disbeliever over. How's about it?

[BlueShadow]

Has now edited the post.
He reads us. Reality is reality, he can't manipulate it to the bitter end it seems.