Pasolini

[netzerkaiser]

Any of you guys familiar with Pasolini's 1960's work? His Accattone is such powerful movie, I profoundly recommend it.

[jupiter57]

I remember seeing Salo years ago. Definitely not an experience I will forget.

[netzerkaiser]

I remember seeing Salo years ago. Definitely not an experience I will forget.

Thanks for that. I'd no idea of his later excesses, the 60's stuff was more what I knew... I'd love him to have met this poet, Philip Larkin; what a unique pessimistic lyricist... like a rock lyricist but vastly superior to Roger Waters, or Morrissey, or Brett Anderson, & I respect all three... Philip Larkin:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dQkKr_9jcNs

"And that will be England gone".

Anyone whos flown over Lancashire through midlands through London can confirm this. He was right.

Two geniuses.

I thought it would last my time—
The sense that, beyond the town,
There would always be fields and farms,
Where the village louts could climb
Such trees as were not cut down;
I knew there’d be false alarms

In the papers about old streets
And split level shopping, but some
Have always been left so far;
And when the old part retreats
As the bleak high-risers come
We can always escape in the car.

Things are tougher than we are, just
As earth will always respond
However we mess it about;
Chuck filth in the sea, if you must:
The tides will be clean beyond.
—But what do I feel now? Doubt?

Or age, simply? The crowd
Is young in the M1 cafe;
Their kids are screaming for more—
More houses, more parking allowed,
More caravan sites, more pay.
On the Business Page, a score

Of spectacled grins approve
Some takeover bid that entails
Five per cent profit (and ten
Per cent more in the estuaries): move
Your works to the unspoilt dales
(Grey area grants)! And when

You try to get near the sea
In summer . . .
It seems, just now,
To be happening so very fast;
Despite all the land left free
For the first time I feel somehow
That it isn’t going to last,

That before I snuff it, the whole
Boiling will be bricked in
Except for the tourist parts—
First slum of Europe: a role
It won’t be hard to win,
With a cast of crooks and tarts.

And that will be England gone,
The shadows, the meadows, the lanes,
The guildhalls, the carved choirs.
There’ll be books; it will linger on
In galleries; but all that remains
For us will be concrete and tyres.

Most things are never meant.
This won’t be, most likely; but greeds
And garbage are too thick-strewn
To be swept up now, or invent
Excuses that make them all needs.
I just think it will happen, soon.

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwVyUrkdExs

La morte di Accattone

[viewer2]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwVyUrkdExs

La morte di Accattone

Seen about 20 years ago. What a beautiful film. All details are devised with intelligence and sensitivity.
Thanks netzer for posting this and in general for launching interesting topics.

Il Vangelo Secondo Matteo is also a very powerful film, btw, regardless of whether you're a believer or not.

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwVyUrkdExs

La morte di Accattone

Seen about 20 years ago. What a beautiful film. All details are devised with intelligence and sensitivity.
Thanks netzer for posting this and in general for launching interesting topics.

Il Vangelo Secondo Matteo is also a very powerful film, btw, regardless of whether you're a believer or not.

Thanks so much. Yes, il Vangelo is astonishing. The lead actor charismatic, again a cast of amateurs, succinctly selected music, & marvelous dream like sequences. Unique features, like the Roman soldiers dressed as they would have been in Renaissance times... someone made lovely compilation video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keyhFcW4MD4

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YwVyUrkdExs

La morte di Accattone

Seen about 20 years ago. What a beautiful film. All details are devised with intelligence and sensitivity.
Thanks netzer for posting this and in general for launching interesting topics.

Il Vangelo Secondo Matteo is also a very powerful film, btw, regardless of whether you're a believer or not.

Thanks so much. Yes, il Vangelo is astonishing. The lead actor charismatic, again a cast of amateurs, succinctly selected music, & marvelous dream like sequences. Unique features, like the Roman soldiers dressed as they would have been in Renaissance times... someone made lovely compilation video below:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=keyhFcW4MD4

I add utterly beautiful piano version, majestic:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EM5-PHJYeOY

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zIJzTWk6bSw

Scott Walker: Farmer in the city