Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[BlueShadow]

In the end there is always just one reason to accept to deal, and accomodate eveything, with a character like that: his money.
Peace.

[robin_reid]

Poor agencies... of course they know very well that he is a non trustable bastard, but I guess that they try to handle the situation the best as they can and try to dealing with him because business is business and times are not good

[BlueShadow]

I'm sorry to have exposed him after what she did to that poor girl.

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Oh yes, he DPed together with Rocco in a BA flight. In his dreams
The only thing can be true from all his post, he regret they`re not friends...
Does hereally think respectable people would let him around when everybody knows he abuse all people are fair play with him ?
Just look at his new "nightmare^attack" try out making trouble for Dan Leal(Pornodan)...
A Disaster this grinch.

Not everybody is a Pornodan, or a Rocco at his age, some need just take a pill, some need only to wake up morning, some they need 2-3 days, flirting, getting compliments, earning self esteem to can handle the situation.
Why he is so much onto bashing Rocco, or Pornodan in these past days?
He knows his own weakness, and cannot handle.

Probably related to his narcissistic disorder, he always need to feel he's placed in front line, need a special treatment.

Honestly I prefer those kind of stories that some accusation without evidence of what really happened in a scene. I am referring to the scene of R with the model called 'Sandra', with whom he said pussy destroyed, bleed, crying, when in the scene then I see exactly the opposite, there was a cool vibe, and then it was Rocco who was going to cry, for not to come too quick XD
In this case, however, bashing a ''competitor'' in a public forum only for words spoken by someone else (because he cannot really know what happened) is appropriate it seems...



Narcissistic disorder you say? I don't know but if a have to judge from what I see...also the things he say about Misha Cross, Ginebra Bellucci and girls that, according to him, should thank him forever:
''Narcissists sometimes help others and do favors because it gives them power over those whom they help. If someone helps you, you feel grateful and willing to help them in the future. ... This induces feelings of guilt in their target.''
This summarize perfectly how he behave...


Also the recent thig with model Ivi Rein that simply refused to do an interview 'cause she don't want to talk about herself, normal people they would have respected this, without having to go to a propaganda forum to make fun of her in a childish way.

PW on Ivi Rein


PW on Kiara Lord 7 years ago



And as we can see here, he use the same system, same kind of mockering to strike the other and elevate himself, as if being present on his forum were relevant to the success of a model. Then they tell me he doesn't have a big ego...
(7 years later and still the same story...this say all) and if you add this '' systematic '' way of behaving and reasoning with the things that himself says regarding to move ''in secret'' against agencies... then everyone can get an idea of ​​the character that models and agents has to deal with... good and generous guy for sure...until you can be profitable for him in some way, you can always get hit in the back by a narcissist if you trust too much...)


PS
And I know perfectly well that we are doing him a favor by simply talking about him...XD another trait of a narcissist.
So let's say that in a way we are therapeutic. XD

[BlueShadow]

There are " male performers" ,those they are ready any time to jump in a porn scene, take off their pants and perform. There are also those they take off their pants get an injection, and even if they move like robots, but they do the scene.Out of them there are some punters, they need to flirt with models, need some girlfriend experience to have an erection and all has to go by their way. If anything disturbs their good feeling, they fail, this comes with age as well.
He would probably first have some romantic moments, a lunch,dinner, some flirting, get encouraged, make a try out with the model, and after do a proper recorded scene.
Not everybody is a Pornodan, or a Rocco at his age, some need just take a pill, some need only to wake up morning, some they need 2-3 days, flirting, getting compliments, earning self esteem to can handle the situation.
Why he is so much onto bashing Rocco, or Pornodan in these past days?
He knows his own weakness, and cannot handle.
Since Rocco just getting more powerful, like a real Bull when refused, the other guy, just laugh and take a pill, he can not handle situations.
Probably related to his narcissistic disorder, he always need to feel he's placed in front line, need a special treatment.

The fact that he cannot make an erection last more than a minute (I understand that there is also a need for feeling, but when it happens in all the scenes...) , is simply objective, but on top of that, you could take a random scene form his site and it would still be 2x more intense than what you see in recent scenes where he is alone. (I mean, there is a reason if for the best selling scene, even in the last weeks, you can see mostly scene from 6-7-8 years ago) I bet none of the members would have the courage to say this on his forum.
Even the scene where he says it is the most intensive, etc., is nothing more than a mere shadow of what he did years ago. Only appearance. But it's porn.

It can be said that the only attraction of that site is the 'first time' (the key is just to try to block girls in doing more hard scene for others) thing or the fetish of seeing an old hairy man with a young girl, this too can be a fetish, nothing wrong with that.


PS
About your last sentence, I don't think he can not handle the situation, he just pretend that all was fine. I could mention a scene with Shalina Devine where after minutes of cocksucking, (and with the eyes of Shalina is not a normal cock-sucking I mean...) she tells him 'your cock don't likes me', but ok...
Not to make fun of a problem that can happen to anyone eh (nobody is a machine), it's just a fact.

[BlueShadow]

Hey, he's still talking about himself again

[Therapya]

And note: ''in secret'', here how he behave. How these agents and agencies can continue to trust without expecting a stab in the back at any moment ... ah yeah, money, I always forget ...
Judas is more reliable ... XD Then maybe when a girl doesn't respect an agreement (in words) he tells bash her on his propaganda forum, but he, the good guy and professional producer appreciated by all... can send girls from other agencies secretly to others.

In real life I could never trust someone who always acts in shady ways. And no, I don't need to have a dinner with him to understand it, what he says himself on his forum is enough, he comments for himself.

A "stab in the back" of his favorite agency from Budapest.

If I know well the Nr.1 partner of BB who invested in the common studio when established Immoral production is now on his target.

Does he really wannabe the "lonely wolf" of the europorn ?
Obviously he acts the way as he acts since decades making troubles to all around him, and no way to change behaviour.
Getting model from agency X he turns her against those he got her from, and give her to agency Y to get another model he can send to agency Z. Than after the one come from Z he will send to X, and round around. More of it, getting in touch directly with the models, and sending them to "other sex works" , and who knows what more....Doing it for "free" but probably for other kind of "favors", contacts, informations in exchange can be more precious than an agency fee- I can consider he is more an agent, than a producer?director?performer.

[robin_reid]

He stab in the back JM few years ago and he do same with the rest of the agencies. Probably he has them blackmailed and threatened, including his favourite, because this is what his whole life is about.

[Therapya]

an answer in his language

[lemmy123]

[viewer2]

There are " male performers" ,those they are ready any time to jump in a porn scene, take off their pants and perform. There are also those they take off their pants get an injection, and even if they move like robots, but they do the scene.Out of them there are some punters, they need to flirt with models, need some girlfriend experience to have an erection and all has to go by their way. If anything disturbs their good feeling, they fail, this comes with age as well.
He would probably first have some romantic moments, a lunch,dinner, some flirting, get encouraged, make a try out with the model, and after do a proper recorded scene.
Not everybody is a Pornodan, or a Rocco at his age, some need just take a pill, some need only to wake up morning, some they need 2-3 days, flirting, getting compliments, earning self esteem to can handle the situation.
Why he is so much onto bashing Rocco, or Pornodan in these past days?
He knows his own weakness, and cannot handle.
Since Rocco just getting more powerful, like a real Bull when refused, the other guy, just laugh and take a pill, he can not handle situations.
Probably related to his narcissistic disorder, he always need to feel he's placed in front line, need a special treatment.

The fact that he cannot make an erection last more than a minute (I understand that there is also a need for feeling, but when it happens in all the scenes...) , is simply objective, but on top of that, you could take a random scene form his site and it would still be 2x more intense than what you see in recent scenes where he is alone. (I mean, there is a reason if for the best selling scene, even in the last weeks, you can see mostly scene from 6-7-8 years ago) I bet none of the members would have the courage to say this on his forum.
Even the scene where he says it is the most intensive, etc., is nothing more than a mere shadow of what he did years ago. Only appearance. But it's porn.

It can be said that the only attraction of that site is the 'first time' (the key is just to try to block girls in doing more hard scene for others) thing or the fetish of seeing an old hairy man with a young girl, this too can be a fetish, nothing wrong with that.


PS
About your last sentence, I don't think he can not handle the situation, he just pretend that all was fine. I could mention a scene with Shalina Devine where after minutes of cocksucking, (and with the eyes of Shalina is not a normal cock-sucking I mean...) she tells him 'your cock don't likes me', but ok...
Not to make fun of a problem that can happen to anyone eh (nobody is a machine), it's just a fact.

You say it was 2X more intense in the past, I'd say it was 5X or 10X more intense!
I'm not following him closely these days and you are, so you probably have seen more of his latest work.

But I remember very well the first time I watched one of his castings. It was in September 2000 and I was in a sex-shop (you were watching porn in sex-shops back then) after my first working day in my life. I was shocked. It made a big impression on me and I watched a lot of them after that. It was extremely intense.
Not least because the girls were completely fresh, picked in the street. And on top of that, I could understand them due to the fact I am acquainted with some of the languages spoken by some of the models.
They were completely naive and he was fucking them roughly and in the ass.

Now, from what I've seen of him lately, it has lost a lot of its interest. Because the girls who come are sent from agencies. They are not fully naive. Even if they don't know they're going to be fucked in the ass (perhaps the agency tells them something else), but they have gone through an erotic model agency so they know they come for doing erotic or porn stuff. And a lot of them are already porn stars. So they come with another mentality. It's completely different. That's why I say it's much less intense.
And also he is fucking with condom and not as hard as in the past, so it's less rough.
In my view, this debate about his "limp dick" is a bit of a paradox, because if it's true he doesn't take Viagra, then he remains a very good fucker for his age, he still can fuck for long time without ejaculating, not everyone can do that. But the world has changed. Now all actors, even young, use Viagra. Look at movies in the 80s or 90s, no actor had a cock looking like rock as it is now. Nowadays all actors are hard as rock and can remain so for hours, even after ejaculating. This means ALL actors, even the youngest, take Viagra or even other things. At least it's the case on AV. In front of that he cannot compete with his dick in a condom. I think it's not a shame to take Viagra in particular in these circumstances when even 30 yo actors do it, because at the end it's video, it's a performance, so the show should be beautiful to see.

Here I'm commenting only on porn, I'm not commenting about your posts on what he has said about which girl or which agency, because it doesn't interest me, I'm interested in porn movies and your statement about the intensity of his work seemed interesting to me.

To conclude, I would nevertheless say that even if I wrote that his movies are 5X or 10X less intense than in the 90s, it doesn't mean you find a huge lot of intensity here...., in my opinion, nowadays, only NRX bring a lot of intensity here. But that's another debate.

[BlueShadow]

Does he really wannabe the "lonely wolf" of the europorn ?
Obviously he acts the way as he acts since decades making troubles to all around him, and no way to change behaviour.
Getting model from agency X he turns her against those he got her from, and give her to agency Y to get another model he can send to agency Z. Than after the one come from Z he will send to X, and round around. More of it, getting in touch directly with the models, and sending them to "other sex works" , and who knows what more....Doing it for "free" but probably for other kind of "favors", contacts, informations in exchange can be more precious than an agency fee- I can consider he is more an agent, than a producer?director?performer.

Who know... judging from what he posted on his propaganda socials about Clea Gaultier and Playboy (the scene she did in Prague for Omar and Lady Dee it must have had an effect... XD)... They say: ''woodman model'' ...on which basis? LOL He is an agent now? Didn't know that...
She started porn 5 years ago, and last scene for his production was at least 3-4 years ago XD

''People high in narcissism would seem particularly likely to remember their past events in ways that bolster their views of themselves as the best, the smartest, and the most successful. It is this ability to downplay their weaknesses and accentuate their perceived strengths which contributes over time to an increasingly distorted view of themselves that leads them to be less and less able to admit to their flaws.''


And for sure a model like her that worked, luckily for her, for many production, Vixen, Tushy, Dorcel etc. etc.. need the help of PW for being on PB...XD I wonder what he want in return for this ''big help'', we will found out soon I guess XD
As I said:'Narcissists sometimes help others and do favors because it gives them power over those whom they help. If someone helps you, you feel grateful and willing to help them in the future. ... This induces feelings of guilt in their target.'


Interesting to see how these theories on narcissism are then reflected in the facts he do XD

[BlueShadow]

I'm not following him closely these days and you are, so you probably have seen more of his latest work.

Here I'm commenting only on porn, I'm not commenting about your posts on what he has said about which girl or which agency, because it doesn't interest me, I'm interested in porn movies and your statement about the intensity of his work seemed interesting to me.

To conclude, I would nevertheless say that even if I wrote that his movies are 5X or 10X less intense than in the 90s, it doesn't mean you find a huge lot of intensity here...., in my opinion, nowadays, only NRX bring a lot of intensity here. But that's another debate.

Of course, I don't give my opinion on something I haven't seen.

In fact it is another debate. I am comparing the old scenes you could see there with the recent ones (I can take a recent scene where the words 'very rough' , 'destroyed' 'intensive' etc.' are used on his forum and outclass it by simply taking a random '' normal '' scene from 5-7 years ago), the fact that we are on the LP / AV forum does not mean that it has to be all connected and make comparisons with what we see in the studios they publish here.

the only interest can be just to see the girls in the first porn scene... even though there are now some obvious changes there... many already have other videos on [spam] etc. real inexperienced and shy girls you will find 1 on 50 if you are lucky. I think one of the few things I share PW's opinion on is [spam]...(I prefer some models like Kristy Black who use that platform in a more interesting and intelligent way, releasing BTS from real porn shoots.)
another interest, for those who have this fetish, can be seeing young girls with an old hairy man that fuck with a belly-belt, more an anal version of Oldje.com..

[BlueShadow]

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an answer in his language

LOL

If he continues to use that '''marketing'' technique means that it still work for him, so I blame more his members than him in some cases XD
At least someone is more smart regarding his money.

[Eloise]

Just a thought:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=31880

[BlueShadow]

Awwww...so cute.

[BlueShadow]

Just a thought:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=31880

And?
PW is not even in the scene, I'm sure is a good one.

[Eloise]

Just a thought:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=31880

And?
PW is not even in the scene, I'm sure is a good one.

Funny that post was removed.
20 pages of Woodman bashing appears to be allowed on this site.
Mentioning a scene that beats the majority of the scenes here is too much too handle obviously.

[viewer2]

Just a thought:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=31880

And?
PW is not even in the scene, I'm sure is a good one.

Funny that post was removed.
20 pages of Woodman bashing appears to be allowed on this site.
Mentioning a scene that beats the majority of the scenes here is too much too handle obviously.

Surely we are on the forum of a private company, and you may have been perceived as advertising a competitor.

The only problem is that this topic in itself is advertising PW. Even if it's meant to be negative.
Because those who have heard of Woodman before are those who are over 40.
Most young people have never heard of him.
On the contrary, all young people know LP/AV. But when you see PW name here every day, it gives you the curiosity to look what his work is about!

[BlueShadow]

Just a thought:

viewtopic.php?f=96&t=31880

And?
PW is not even in the scene, I'm sure is a good one.

Funny that post was removed.
20 pages of Woodman bashing appears to be allowed on this site.
Mentioning a scene that beats the majority of the scenes here is too much too handle obviously.

I noticed, but why are you telling me, I don't work for LP / AV. XD
I have also replyed to that saying that, it's alway exciting to see a girl maoning in a mix of pain and pleasure...but objectively it was just one minute of DAP, one position, in 27 minutes of video, so I wouldn't recommend it to DAP fans or anyone who wants to see a DAP scene. You better cut that minute and get it for free in the end.
So, there was nothing to handle, was just free advertisement.

Just saying, I didn't even comment on what you said about LP. I don't have to defend anyone.
I just corrected some of your 'inaccuracies'.
I have never even compared the PW scenes with those of LP (as you did) because I don't even care.
In this thread I compared the old scenes of PW with the PW's recent one. That's all.
And (apart the fact that PW is not in that scene) that one you mentioned is from 2014, so it confirms in part my opinion.)

For me you can have your own opinion on recent LP / AV scenes, and maybe I agree too.


I'm not an LP / AV employee you know.
I am a freelancer LOL

[BlueShadow]

Surely we are on the forum of a private company, and you may have been perceived as advertising a competitor.

The only problem is that this topic in itself is advertising PW. Even if it's meant to be negative.
Because those who have heard of Woodman before are those who are over 40.
Most young people have never heard of him.
On the contrary, all young people know LP/AV. But when you see PW name here every day, it gives you the curiosity to look what his work is about!

Mean to be negative, not for me...I mean, if we talk about porn and porn scenes we can discuss it objectively and you can also have positive opinions, I never said that all PW scenes suck, in fact I even praised some scenes, like DP with Cristina Miller , and it's all provable, although now it is a mess to find those posts even using the search function. I myself have praised the old scenes saying that they are more intensive. Again, we are just talk about porn, for me you can discuss it if you want and if you can.
Instead I can't have a positive opinion on his behavior (of the ''character'' PW), based on things he writes himself. When I put on screens, those are things that he writes and about which I can only get an idea of ​​a sneaky character, they are not things that I invent, they are things that he writes and from which I get an opinion...


And in any case even on his propaganda forum there are threads dedicated to Rocco Siffredi, Manuel Ferrara and other male performers...
If you look at RS thread, that too has become a thread where hatred is fomented (without mentioning the ones of the model that for some reason he don't like, like Misha Cross, Ginebra Bellucci, Alyssia Kent...) and I don't feel like PW blocked that thread or anyone making negative comments.
We just have to be intellectually honest... that's all.

[Eloise]

Don't get me wrong, I just think it's hilarious as it is and it really shows the lacking of true freedom of speech.
I don't need half a page of text to prove my point.

[BlueShadow]

Don't get me wrong, I just think it's hilarious as it is and it really shows the lacking of true freedom of speech.
I don't need half a page of text to prove my point.

I can understand, I'm the first who is against censorship in every sense. But also try to be objective though. If you had posted such a post in the '' other '' forum, perhaps with an LP/AV scene, what do you think would have happened? No need to say more.

[dap-addict]

...but objectively it was just one minute of DAP, one position, in 27 minutes of video, so I wouldn't recommend it to DAP fans or anyone who wants to see a DAP scene.

Now you got me interested guys: Who is the girl?
Hopefully there is a chance to watch her dap in a decent Prague based studio!
I've never bought any of that Bp lier stuff since his Hustler castings of about 2002, anyway.

[BlueShadow]

...but objectively it was just one minute of DAP, one position, in 27 minutes of video, so I wouldn't recommend it to DAP fans or anyone who wants to see a DAP scene.

Now you got me interested guys: Who is the girl?
Hopefully there is a chance to watch her dap in a decent Prague based studio!
I've never bought any of that Bp lier stuff since his Hustler castings of about 2002, anyway.

https://www.analvids.com/model/3399/klara

[dap-addict]

Ta!Oh, I see the Czech 40+ MILF.
Bought 2 DAPs of her in 2016. That's enough, dont need a 3rd one tbh.

[BlueShadow]

Ta!Oh, I see the Czech 40+ MILF.
Bought 2 DAPs of her in 2016. That's enough, dont need a 3rd one tbh.

One more minute of DAP you meant. XD

[dap-addict]

They never got DAP-ed simultaneously, but was a nice generation battle still:
GIO282: https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/32107

Hey, guys, you make me miss Selvaggia!

[Eloise]

Ta!Oh, I see the Czech 40+ MILF.
Bought 2 DAPs of her in 2016. That's enough, dont need a 3rd one tbh.

I really can recommend watching her DAP on that other website I'm not allowed to mention here.
Two minutes of actual full on fucking.

[viewer2]

BlueShadow, I don't understand Eloise's post on the deletion of his topic as being meant for you. I understand it as a general statement. I'm not Eloise's spokesman and he doesn't need one, but I think it's pretty clear. Why do you take it personnally?

Similarly, my post was not meant for you. It's not you who opened the topic. No need to interpret posts as critics against you!

[BlueShadow]

He quoted me.

[BlueShadow]

Mmh...



I guess it's mutual... 'another formal proof':



















and this is only because I stopped at the third page of the search, and the words LP and AV are too common to be searched.



They mention AV/LP in every fucking topics. What he say, it's simply a reflection of what happen even there. Period.

[Paul_Magzire]

Omg what a bunch of pussies. Months I seen this thread going on. Who gives a fucking shit what he does. I just seen Tassia Shanti get cummed up the arse and that scene is 10 times better than anything I ever seen at LG, it was raw and hc. Fucking weirdos, honestly why you give a fucking shit about this guy

[scarletxxx666]

When this bastard book models from other agencies then he tries to redirect them to his shady partner in Budapest by telling them that they are the number 1 agency bla bla... This is the way how he thanks the other agencies when they provide him with new models. I know this from several models, 100% reliable sources.

how can u call him a bastards and the mods dont care

they even deleted one of my messages for calling people simps

im so pissed yo, thats unfair yo, im gonna cry

[scarletxxx666]

did pierre woodman stole ur gf or something

Why, is there a law that says I can only express my opinion if something has been done to me?

i was joking lol

express whatever u want i dont like to suppress others, although im kinda toxic and bad person

[xxx]

If you're on [spam] drop a supportive comment there :

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It will get some attention.

[robin_reid]

This guy Kristof emailed me weeks ago (I guess he did same with other performers, directors, etc) asking me several questions that I don’t know and that are not my business. He said also “My focus is on XVideos but I make a passing reference to complaints that LP sometimes has injured actresses; any comment is welcome”

What I did was redirect him to this thread and also to the other thread on this forum about his article. Even so, then, he emailed me once more... “By the way, if you can pass the word to bla bla bla...” I passed.

[scarletxxx666]

[spam]

[BlueShadow]

Bwhahahahahaha his latest post on Ivy Rein topic on his propaganda forum is so funny bwahahahahah
I don't even comment on all the baseless self-congratulatory bullshits that say. Can only, maybe, impress some young inexperienced girl who needs money and work.
As if he didn't have a deal (always first me) with Brillbabes XD bwahahah

[scarletxxx666]

Bwhahahahahaha his latest post on Ivy Rein topic on his propaganda forum is so funny bwahahahahah
I don't even comment on all the baseless self-congratulatory bullshits that say. Can only, maybe, impress some young inexperienced girl who needs money and work.
As if he didn't have a deal (always first me) with Brillbabes XD bwahahah

why dont u invite pierre woodman to this forum and fight with him in this thread

that would be so cool and fun

[xxx]

This guy Kristof emailed me weeks ago (I guess he did same with other performers, directors, etc) asking me several questions that I don’t know and that are not my business. He said also “My focus is on XVideos but I make a passing reference to complaints that LP sometimes has injured actresses; any comment is welcome”

What I did was redirect him to this thread and also to the other thread on this forum about his article. Even so, then, he emailed me once more... “By the way, if you can pass the word to bla bla bla...” I passed.

Interesting. Very surprising that he would still prop up Woodman after reading more about him.