When did you realise you liked advanced porn?

[Jocke]

I have watched porn for decades and it has affected my private sex life. At least I think so.
In the beginning all available porn was, in my opinion, softcore even if the definition of hard core was that it included penetration, it still was lame.

Then I saw the first anal penetration with a dildo on a VHS tape. It was magic. I still remember the scene. I probably rewound and watched many times. Before that I hadn't even noticed the girls' asshole, I was too focused on pussy. After that I stared at buttholes and I am especially fond of girls who smile naughty into the camera while spreading their ass cheeks. I wonder if I had discovered anal sex if it wasn't for porn? I have been addicted since then. No I don't regret it, it has widened my horizon and gave me the courage to introduce anal sex in my private life. Thank you porn!

I still think it is strange with the asshole attraction, I mean it cannot be nature's intention. Evolution should have erased those who just butt fucked, lol!

Then I came across some British watersports porn. It was soft, but exciting! I had no idea that I would like it, but I searched for more. Not until I came across LegalPorno did I find well shot piss porn.

My first scene was this one with the lovely Barbariska and Alisa:
PissMyAssOff
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/365


I have been hooked since then. I don't think that I would have come up with this interest on my own.

Today I find myself more and more attracted to buttroses and buttrose licking, preferably slimy and cum covered. I would never have thought that I would enjoy the sight of a woman pushing out her colon, but here we are!

There are a several things I have been introduced to that never caught my interest and I think that is great, because then I know that my mind is not totally controlled by producers.

What is your story?

[netzerkaiser]

I admire your honesty Jocke. For me, it was discovering the Private XXX films in late 90's, & the Silwa magazines. I just couldn't understand how such beautiful women would be doing these things. Working in London, watching ice-cold beauties in the city, I just couldn't figure out that situation in Czech Republic or Hungary wasn't the same. It was more a psychogical confusion more than anything. On top of that was actually having the nerve to buy the magazines from friendly Mr Patel or whoever in the newsagent. Most of the time I hadn't the nerve, or was too proud, hence more frustration.

10 Years later, with freedom of anonominity of internet, when I found out belatedly I'd been romantically linked with two ladies who unbeknown to myself had done movies, one most painfully that it was an unrequited love on my part, to think I'd wasted such 'noble' passion on someone I'd idealised, I started cataloguing models by country & era post '95 as best I could - maybe psychologically hoping not to make mistake again, though I know it sounds mad.

TBH, I'd be finished now more or less, with odd updates, except my Czech removable drive died last year, I'm going to look for controller on ebay... mind you I said that to myself a year ago & did nothing about it. So what I'm trying to say is end-goal is fairly in sight, as pornography can be a time-thief like anything else. Apologies if my story is boring, like I said before my key interest here is the Sineplex / Petersburg 2008-2014 stuff, but again I'm so lazy I've done little downloading or even watching past year. Most purchases I did was to support models, & I never watched anything beyond trailer.

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cyh__QQD2js

Waterloo Sunset ~ The Kinks

[Jocke]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

Lola
The Kinks
I met her in a club down in old Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola
C-O-L-A, Cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Lola
L-O-L-A, Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said "Dear boy, won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes, well I almost fell for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me
Well, that's the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world, except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said "Dear boy, I'm gonna make you a man"
Well, I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

Lola
The Kinks
I met her in a club down in old Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola
C-O-L-A, Cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Lola
L-O-L-A, Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said "Dear boy, won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes, well I almost fell for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me
Well, that's the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world, except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said "Dear boy, I'm gonna make you a man"
Well, I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

Ray was / is Davies, a fucking genius Jocke. I heard it in a shop a week ago, finishing work... 'girls will be boys & boys will be girls" etc, & I thought, Ray you Legend LOL

[scarletxxx666]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

Lola
The Kinks
I met her in a club down in old Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola
C-O-L-A, Cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Lola
L-O-L-A, Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said "Dear boy, won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes, well I almost fell for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me
Well, that's the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world, except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said "Dear boy, I'm gonna make you a man"
Well, I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

lola comes from the name dolores

dolores means pains in spanish

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

Lola
The Kinks
I met her in a club down in old Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola
C-O-L-A, Cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Lola
L-O-L-A, Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said "Dear boy, won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes, well I almost fell for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me
Well, that's the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world, except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said "Dear boy, I'm gonna make you a man"
Well, I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

lola comes from the name dolores

dolores means pains in spanish

Brothr, just enjoy the great song? Live for the moment? Thankss

[Jocke]

No not boring, actually the opposite.

Not claiming to be a psychologist and this is not about you specifically, I believe dreaming up relations with movie personalities is dangerous. Our brains are not equipped with watching and coming close to all these lovely personalities. Our brains are wired to find a mate among a dozen local potential partners, not looking at the most admired people on the planet and thinking that you would be a match.

Riley Reid has 1.1B views on PornHub, I think we can safely assume that 2B men have jerked off to Riley fantasizing about being the one. At 5 ml per ejaculation, that is 10 000 cubic meters of semen that didn't get into Riley's womb!

Typically young women in puberty tend to fall in love with pop stars and faint at concerts but they fortunately grow out of it. Of course some girls are invited backstage which gives even more fuel to the other girls' desire and desperation.

Men tend to idolize porn stars in the same way. This actually creates the reverse problem for porn stars and I am not talking about stalking. Riley has done some very nice interviews on Youtube were she explains that her problem with being a Porn star means that guys fall in love with Riley Reid and not Ashley Mathews (her real name). Some wants to fuck her like the porn studs which she gets more than enough of already. Others have tried to be the one who makes her leave the industry, not respecting that she not only have chosen a career she loves but one in which she also excel.

For men the problem can be heartache and irrational behaviour, problem to find and enjoy a realistic partner or worst case becoming an obsessed stalker. I think anyone who starts to feel that a porn star occpies their thoughts too much should seek professional help. No you are not going to get her. Forget that.

In my case I have not fallen in porn-love but I have many times felt FOMO while living in a monogamous relationship but for me I know it is a great compromise to watch porn on the side instead of cheating.

Just like you can enjoy Angelina Jolie on the screen and understand that not only is she a fictive character in the movie, she is beyond reach in real life, we must do the same with Riley Reid and all the other lovely ladies we think we are intimate with, just because they drop their clothes for us.

[Jocke]

I love the Kinks!
Not long ago transvestites or transgender people were nothing you talked about. I think the song speaks to us about loving humans regardless of gender definition and that love comes from deep within and then what you do with your genitals can vary.

I have watched some TS movies with open mind and I do enjoy some but not all. I think a small feminine TS-girl can be sexy and I regard her as a woman despite having a dick. I wouldn't be attracted to a manly woman regardless of her pussy. I guess I am straight, lol!

[netzerkaiser]

No not boring, actually the opposite.

Not claiming to be a psychologist and this is not about you specifically, I believe dreaming up relations with movie personalities is dangerous. Our brains are not equipped with watching and coming close to all these lovely personalities. Our brains are wired to find a mate among a dozen local potential partners, not looking at the most admired people on the planet and thinking that you would be a match.

Riley Reid has 1.1B views on PornHub, I think we can safely assume that 2B men have jerked off to Riley fantasizing about being the one. At 5 ml per ejaculation, that is 10 000 cubic meters of semen that didn't get into Riley's womb!

Typically young women in puberty tend to fall in love with pop stars and faint at concerts but they fortunately grow out of it. Of course some girls are invited backstage which gives even more fuel to the other girls' desire and desperation.

Men tend to idolize porn stars in the same way. This actually creates the reverse problem for porn stars and I am not talking about stalking. Riley has done some very nice interviews on Youtube were she explains that her problem with being a Porn star means that guys fall in love with Riley Reid and not Ashley Mathews (her real name). Some wants to fuck her like the porn studs which she gets more than enough of already. Others have tried to be the one who makes her leave the industry, not respecting that she not only have chosen a career she loves but one in which she also excel.

For men the problem can be heartache and irrational behaviour, problem to find and enjoy a realistic partner or worst case becoming an obsessed stalker. I think anyone who starts to feel that a porn star occpies their thoughts too much should seek professional help. No you are not going to get her. Forget that.

In my case I have not fallen in porn-love but I have many times felt FOMO while living in a monogamous relationship but for me I know it is a great compromise to watch porn on the side instead of cheating.

Just like you can enjoy Angelina Jolie on the screen and understand that not only is she a fictive character in the movie, she is beyond reach in real life, we must do the same with Riley Reid and all the other lovely ladies we think we are intimate with, just because they drop their clothes for us.

Back on 'emergency services' in about 10 hours so no time to digest considered response. 5 / 6 days from now too late to respond, but Jocke you gave me kick out of Raymond Douglas Davies singular genius. Thank you

[netzerkaiser]

I love the Kinks!
Not long ago transvestites or transgender people were nothing you talked about. I think the song speaks to us about loving humans regardless of gender definition and that love comes from deep within and then what you do with your genitals can vary.

I have watched some TS movies with open mind and I do enjoy some but not all. I think a small feminine TS-girl can be sexy and I regard her as a woman despite having a dick. I wouldn't be attracted to a manly woman regardless of her pussy. I guess I am straight, lol!

Those two late 60's albums, Arthur & Village Green... we need to talk man

[netzerkaiser]

No not boring, actually the opposite.

Not claiming to be a psychologist and this is not about you specifically, I believe dreaming up relations with movie personalities is dangerous. Our brains are not equipped with watching and coming close to all these lovely personalities. Our brains are wired to find a mate among a dozen local potential partners, not looking at the most admired people on the planet and thinking that you would be a match.

Riley Reid has 1.1B views on PornHub, I think we can safely assume that 2B men have jerked off to Riley fantasizing about being the one. At 5 ml per ejaculation, that is 10 000 cubic meters of semen that didn't get into Riley's womb!

Typically young women in puberty tend to fall in love with pop stars and faint at concerts but they fortunately grow out of it. Of course some girls are invited backstage which gives even more fuel to the other girls' desire and desperation.

Men tend to idolize porn stars in the same way. This actually creates the reverse problem for porn stars and I am not talking about stalking. Riley has done some very nice interviews on Youtube were she explains that her problem with being a Porn star means that guys fall in love with Riley Reid and not Ashley Mathews (her real name). Some wants to fuck her like the porn studs which she gets more than enough of already. Others have tried to be the one who makes her leave the industry, not respecting that she not only have chosen a career she loves but one in which she also excel.

For men the problem can be heartache and irrational behaviour, problem to find and enjoy a realistic partner or worst case becoming an obsessed stalker. I think anyone who starts to feel that a porn star occpies their thoughts too much should seek professional help. No you are not going to get her. Forget that.

In my case I have not fallen in porn-love but I have many times felt FOMO while living in a monogamous relationship but for me I know it is a great compromise to watch porn on the side instead of cheating.

Just like you can enjoy Angelina Jolie on the screen and understand that not only is she a fictive character in the movie, she is beyond reach in real life, we must do the same with Riley Reid and all the other lovely ladies we think we are intimate with, just because they drop their clothes for us.

Back on 'emergency services' in about 10 hours so no time to digest considered response. 5 / 6 days from now too late to respond, but Jocke you gave me kick out of Raymond Douglas Davies singular genius. Thank you

Just re-read what I said Jocke. My issue was 2 ladies I met, one of whome I had relationship with, other who spurned me, in days of VHS etc, that turned out both had done porn in retrospect. No stalking / imaginary weirdness involved. Just this London bank clerk has been doin' this in her weekends away (this is '98, pathetic BenDover & stuff) & taliing me along? Of course she would've had no idea of power of internet back then. Latter girl, Czech, lovey girl, almost par for course 2008... On other hand, I guess I'm as regular guy, fortunate to have criss-crossed two porn-divas in normal life? Who knows? But traumatic, yes, obviously.

[ZiziMinuscule]

Very instructive and interesting inputs here. Glad to read You, gentlemen.

[Jocke]

Just re-read what I said Jocke. My issue was 2 ladies I met, one of whome I had relationship with, other who spurned me, in days of VHS etc, that turned out both had done porn in retrospect. No stalking / imaginary weirdness involved. Just this London bank clerk has been doin' this in her weekends away (this is '98, pathetic BenDover & stuff) & taliing me along? Of course she would've had no idea of power of internet back then. Latter girl, Czech, lovey girl, almost par for course 2008... On other hand, I guess I'm as regular guy, fortunate to have criss-crossed two porn-divas in normal life? Who knows? But traumatic, yes, obviously.

Now you must tell the name of the girls and which BenDover movie. I watched everything BenDover in the 90-ies!

[Jocke]

Just re-read what I said Jocke. My issue was 2 ladies I met, one of whom I had relationship with, other who spurned me, in days of VHS etc, that turned out both had done porn in retrospect. No stalking / imaginary weirdness involved. Just this London bank clerk has been doin' this in her weekends away (this is '98, pathetic BenDover & stuff) & taliing me along? Of course she would've had no idea of power of internet back then. Latter girl, Czech, lovely girl, almost par for course 2008... On other hand, I guess I'm as regular guy, fortunate to have criss-crossed two porn-divas in normal life? Who knows? But traumatic, yes, obviously.

I re-read and I admit that I misread. I guess what I wrote was something I wanted to get off my chest. Still I think cataloguing models to avoid hooking up with them is a bit paranoid.

To accidentally get involved with not one but two porn models must be extremely unlikely, unless they have a subconscious attraction to you. Maybe there is 100 000 porn models alive today. At the time it must have been less than 10 000 and probably less than 1000 in the UK out of 10 000 000 women in the age span. That is a likelihood of 1/100M to meet with two!

I just wonder if you would have been ok with them doing porn if they had told you? i.e. would you be content with a relation with an active or maybe retired porn star?

[Jocke]

When it comes to music I have loved The Doors since I first heard "Light my fire! When I hooked up with one of my first girl friends I insisted on having the 6 minute version on repeat while we were fucking. It was a total experience!

[ExtremePornFan]

The simple answer is almost right out of the gate. Long answer below.

This is kind of embarrassing, before I could buy porn I would steal it from convenience stores. I like the content alright of hustler, swank etc but my favorite part was the ads in the back for all kinds of "advanced" mail order only type stuff. I remember getting so worked up over it my heart would be pounding so hard I thought it would jump out of my chest. Once I was a bit older I would drive around to lot of porn shops and try to find the hardest stuff. I liked some American porn but really would seek out euro stuff. It was actually hard to find only small shops would have it. The would not display much as most is borderline obscenity here. The DBM video was pretty much the most advanced I could find. Some of it, if I recall correctly is not even match by legalporn standards. I was even able to find a couple stores who would back door Book & Film International and Topscore stuff I never got to into it though I think it's more a shock value thing than a turn on. The hunt to find it was fun too, now everything is at your finger tips. I wonder how many "advanced porn fans" today would have put in the foot work. I don't know that I still would.

Anyone know where all that old DBM stuff is today? Maybe XXX can buy the catalog would be an excellent addition to LP.

Yes I like the Kinks also.

[Jocke]

Thank you for your contribution!
I guess the less nudity one have been exposed to the bigger the impact. I saw that there during WW2 was an american soldier who was extremely gifted att drawing pinup girls. He could sell them at high prices and this was what the GI's wanked to!

I started by "borrowing" my elder brother's magazines. Penthouse, Club, Paul Raymond stuff. Then I came across Hustler and it was the first pictures with women who spread their pussies. Other pictures were with closed legs or just the occasional glance of pink. I was amazed at what the women did.

Now I realise that my view of women was quite skewed by cultural pressure. Women could not let anyone believe that they were interested in sex or they would be slut shamed. Women should be pursued by men and unwilling and then in the end give up their goods to a man who promised to marry her. I think I would have had much more success with women early on if I had assumed that they were interested too and that they just needed to feel secure that no one else would know and that they wouldn't become pregnant.

[Starrio]

Just like you can enjoy Angelina Jolie on the screen and understand that not only is she a fictive character in the movie, she is beyond reach in real life, we must do the same with Riley Reid and all the other lovely ladies we think we are intimate with,

I don't know if you guys read what I said on another similar post, but I mentioned how guys that jerk off to girls fall in love because the brain doesn't distinguish between imagination and reality.

So what happens is that the subconscious tricks men into thinking they actually impregnated the girl they jerked off to, even if it didn't happen.

That's a problem a lot of men have, with movie stars, singers, models, and nowadays even with anime and video game characters, which is pretty crazy.

The problem with this is that it prevents men to see reality, not only in the sense that they want an specific person, but I would say even more in noticing that the attributes those girls have are more common than guys think.

Because they are so obsessed with whoever girl they are obsessed with, they don't see that there are thousands of girls just like her, and that the attributes that they think are so special about that specific girl, in reality are not that special.

In fact if you present them with a girl with the exact same attributes, sometimes better, they will not see them, and they will think she is inferior because she is not the girl he likes.

In reality an external judge that is not cursed by the incantation he is victim of, can easily see this, and notice the guy is just not in touch with reality.

It can go both ways because it is true not every guy that likes Angelina Jolie can get Angelina Jolie, but saying you can't get a girl like Angelina Jolie is also false because you can. It happens all the time.

I look back at my pass relationships and many have been just as beautiful if not more than many Hollywood stars, there was one that look like Ana De Armas, there was one that look like young Kristanna Loken, there was one that looked like young Rosamund Pike, one like Alizeé, etc..

And a lot of guys have had that too, but they don't get to appreciate it because the chemicals in their brains blind them to see what's in front of them.

I have always been good at making out with girls at concerts, and I remember doing it with girls that look like Ria Sunn, Mina, and Arwen Gold for example, so when I saw them in porn I immediately like them because it is nostalgic too, and I'm sure this happens to a lot of guys, but they don't even notice it.

The only difference may be fame and income, and we guys don't care about those things anyway, but the other things that we like are present in many many girls that we already have access to and that many men refuse to see this is the case.

In fact one of the reasons I like Cindy Shine is because she looks exactly like the wife of one of my best friends of the past, so it is kind of kinky, and his sister looks exactly like Bella Claire.

My favorite porn star is Anita Bellini because when I traveled to Central America there was this girl that looked exactly like her, and I took cared of her, and she took care of me.

Guys refuse to see this because they want to, but these girls are abundant everywhere.

I am a porn addict just like everyone else here probably is, but let's not deny objective reality, guys should look at their past and see for themselves.

[davebowman]

If we are talking about anal, then it was the first video I saw, thanks to Private. Porn was illegal in the UK at the time, so I bought some dodgy bootleg VHS from a sex shop (God knows what generation it was from the original). It was a film with about 5 scenes. The first couple of scenes blew my mind, but suddenly it got to the third scene, when a girl took it up the poop chute in doggy style, and from that moment, nothing else could quite hit the spot.

[Angel Eyes]

Early '90s Rosebud Video productions. Rosebud specialized in anal, gangbangs and Asians. It helped I lived in a big city with video shops that specialized in adult video rentals. Huge selection. Fell in love with Asian women even more thru the Anal Cuties of Chinatown series. Saw tiny Asian girl named Anisa take a DP...my first time seeing that act. Fuck, it was heaven. Called out sick from work one day and wanked...all...day. Never looked back. Porn has only improved, at least until Covid hit. Today's selection of girls seem to trashy to be real...too many tattooed and hard looking girls. Yes, there are a few exceptions and I am thankful for those special girls.

[netzerkaiser]

Just re-read what I said Jocke. My issue was 2 ladies I met, one of whom I had relationship with, other who spurned me, in days of VHS etc, that turned out both had done porn in retrospect. No stalking / imaginary weirdness involved. Just this London bank clerk has been doin' this in her weekends away (this is '98, pathetic BenDover & stuff) & taliing me along? Of course she would've had no idea of power of internet back then. Latter girl, Czech, lovely girl, almost par for course 2008... On other hand, I guess I'm as regular guy, fortunate to have criss-crossed two porn-divas in normal life? Who knows? But traumatic, yes, obviously.

I re-read and I admit that I misread. I guess what I wrote was something I wanted to get off my chest. Still I think cataloguing models to avoid hooking up with them is a bit paranoid.

To accidentally get involved with not one but two porn models must be extremely unlikely, unless they have a subconscious attraction to you. Maybe there is 100 000 porn models alive today. At the time it must have been less than 10 000 and probably less than 1000 in the UK out of 10 000 000 women in the age span. That is a likelihood of 1/100M to meet with two!

I just wonder if you would have been ok with them doing porn if they had told you? i.e. would you be content with a relation with an active or maybe retired porn star?

Thanks. Obviously I can't give names, it'd be just plain wrong. The Czech girl from 2008 was just a lovely simple girl that seemed to nurse a secret & my Czech was so bad & her English was non-existant... anyway I came home before things could take off. She was a victim of poverty & being young & impressionable. There would have been no issue there, only compassion.

It was the London girl from 1998 that worked in the bank that really messed me up. Total tease & all coyness. I have no idea what she was playing at, I'll bet she had no idea that the internet would one day hold these things for posterity. Maybe she got a thrill from a double life?

Certainly if I knew anything about what she was up to at the time I'd have lost interest completely. This is because this lady was so damned beautiful in a Joanna Lumney type way, & she was well brought up from one of the more respectable corners of Surrey, 26 and old enough to have sense. This ben dover stuff could never be called classy either. The contempt & anger would come from wasting your most noble emotions, like where you'd literally die for someone. OK, its like Jack in Titanic about to save whatshername & Celine Dion is warbling her annoying song in the background, then Jack finds a photo of wwhatshername getting banged by the cabin crew a bit like Lucy Anne here below, is he gonna flop her out of the water? Fuck that! 20 years ago. Comical now!

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Lastly, you might say, are you sure you don't have mistaken identities? Well, the Czech girl went by several stage names including her real name, which oddly enough to us now, was common enough in early / mid 2000's. But I knew her the second she walked onto Robert Rosenbergs AlCaporno set, by her walk. Its unreal what a persons walk / mannerisms give away, even from 20 yards. The English girl is just fact. I made sure I clarified it.

Yeah, I guess I've had only about 30 romantic interests in my life, & only about 5-6 relationships of any kind, 'cos I was never someone who could take 'what I could get' for the sake of it. Just a quiet simple guy, so far removed from the guys who stand at the weir, poaching all the salmon. No, I was simple Joe with his little fishing rod in the lake where fish seldom go. So you're right, for me to have found my path involving two 'porn babes' is most uncommon indeed, pariculaly since I met both far away from glamour industry area! Thanks Jocke!

[netzerkaiser]

The simple answer is almost right out of the gate. Long answer below.

This is kind of embarrassing, before I could buy porn I would steal it from convenience stores. I like the content alright of hustler, swank etc but my favorite part was the ads in the back for all kinds of "advanced" mail order only type stuff. I remember getting so worked up over it my heart would be pounding so hard I thought it would jump out of my chest. Once I was a bit older I would drive around to lot of porn shops and try to find the hardest stuff. I liked some American porn but really would seek out euro stuff. It was actually hard to find only small shops would have it. The would not display much as most is borderline obscenity here. The DBM video was pretty much the most advanced I could find. Some of it, if I recall correctly is not even match by legalporn standards. I was even able to find a couple stores who would back door Book & Film International and Topscore stuff I never got to into it though I think it's more a shock value thing than a turn on. The hunt to find it was fun too, now everything is at your finger tips. I wonder how many "advanced porn fans" today would have put in the foot work. I don't know that I still would.

Anyone know where all that old DBM stuff is today? Maybe XXX can buy the catalog would be an excellent addition to LP.

Yes I like the Kinks also.

I too would like to see DBM brought in from wilderness, if possible.

[netzerkaiser]

When it comes to music I have loved The Doors since I first heard "Light my fire! When I hooked up with one of my first girl friends I insisted on having the 6 minute version on repeat while we were fucking. It was a total experience!

Yeah brilliant guitar & organ breaks... if you're interested the Stranglers totally sexualised Dion Warwicks 'walk on by' using identical technique!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jqfqVDHNW6c

I told ya!

[netzerkaiser]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

Lola
The Kinks
I met her in a club down in old Soho
Where you drink champagne and it tastes just like coca cola
C-O-L-A, Cola
She walked up to me and she asked me to dance
I asked her her name and in a dark brown voice she said Lola
L-O-L-A, Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not the world's most physical guy
But when she squeezed me tight she nearly broke my spine
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I'm not dumb but I can't understand
Why she walked like a woman but talked like a man
Oh my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, we drank champagne and danced all night
Under electric candlelight
She picked me up and sat me on her knee
And said "Dear boy, won't you come home with me?"
Well, I'm not the world's most passionate guy
But when I looked in her eyes, well I almost fell for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
I pushed her away
I walked to the door
I fell to the floor
I got down on my knees
Then I looked at her and she at me
Well, that's the way that I want it to stay
And I always want it to be that way for my Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Girls will be boys and boys will be girls
It's a mixed up, muddled up, shook up world, except for Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
Well, I left home just a week before
And I'd never ever kissed a woman before
But Lola smiled and took me by the hand
And said "Dear boy, I'm gonna make you a man"
Well, I'm not the world's most masculine man
But I know what I am and I'm glad I'm a man
And so is Lola
La-la-la-la Lola
La-la-la-la Lola

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NFwP2huyNzg

lola comes from the name dolores

dolores means pains in spanish

Thanks scarletxxx666, it means a lot. Only time I heard word Dolores was with Roxy music latin:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjdyALFVTWA
Ecce momenta
Illa mirabilia
Quae captabit
In aeternum
Memor
Modo dolores
Sunt in dies
Non est reliquum
Vero tantum
Comminicamus
Perdita

[Jocke]

It can go both ways because it is true not every guy that likes Angelina Jolie can get Angelina Jolie, but saying you can't get a girl like Angelina Jolie is also false because you can. It happens all the time.

I agree. What I stated was that you could not get that specific girl and I also agree, that you could find just as attractive girls in real life as on screen.

[netzerkaiser]

The simple answer is almost right out of the gate. Long answer below.

This is kind of embarrassing, before I could buy porn I would steal it from convenience stores. I like the content alright of hustler, swank etc but my favorite part was the ads in the back for all kinds of "advanced" mail order only type stuff. I remember getting so worked up over it my heart would be pounding so hard I thought it would jump out of my chest. Once I was a bit older I would drive around to lot of porn shops and try to find the hardest stuff. I liked some American porn but really would seek out euro stuff. It was actually hard to find only small shops would have it. The would not display much as most is borderline obscenity here. The DBM video was pretty much the most advanced I could find. Some of it, if I recall correctly is not even match by legalporn standards. I was even able to find a couple stores who would back door Book & Film International and Topscore stuff I never got to into it though I think it's more a shock value thing than a turn on. The hunt to find it was fun too, now everything is at your finger tips. I wonder how many "advanced porn fans" today would have put in the foot work. I don't know that I still would.

Anyone know where all that old DBM stuff is today? Maybe XXX can buy the catalog would be an excellent addition to LP.

Yes I like the Kinks also.

I love your post too.

[dap-addict]

I have watched porn for decades and it has affected my private sex life. At least I think so.
In the beginning all available porn was, in my opinion, softcore even if the definition of hard core was that it included penetration, it still was lame.

Then I saw the first anal penetration with a dildo on a VHS tape. It was magic. I still remember the scene. I probably rewound and watched many times. (...)

Then I came across some British watersports porn. It was soft, but exciting! I had no idea that I would like it, but I searched for more. Not until I came across LegalPorno did I find well shot piss porn. (...)I have been hooked since then. I don't think that I would have come up with this interest on my own.

Today I find myself more and more attracted to buttroses and buttrose licking, preferably slimy and cum covered. I would never have thought that I would enjoy the sight of a woman pushing out her colon, but here we are!

A very interesting thread, gone bit astray in my book, though.
Anyway, very interesting OP question!

Strange enough I dont remember my first anal porn video.
Even not my first anal sex pictures in a video mag.

I do very lively remember the last scene of Private Video Magazine No. 1 of 1991, that 8on1 DP gangbang with a girl called Annette. I guess I watched that one many dotzen times!
I also remember going to this early porn boots in Paris and hoping to hit that scene first. You had to feed them with coins if you wanted to watch further. Old pre-internet times!
At that time that was my advanced porn.

Breakthrough for me was around 3 years later when I spotted the first DAP in a porn mag!
I was really surprised, and than hooked at once!
Before I was gangbang and sperm oriented - remember those US gangbang records? LOL! - from that point on I was only hunting down DAP.
I remember Ildico's DAP in Private Video Magazine No. 20 of 1995 of course. But earlier the same year I bumped into US production Straight A's and the first DAP on film, Annabel Chong's 3on1. This also lead to an Asian girl fascination still lasting today.

Now this was basically 20 years prior to my LP subscription, which finally provided me with the porn I actually wanted to watch, i.e. enough 100% anal guaranteed scenes and enough DAPs, even if they contained DP I <FF>-ed usually by then.

Here I freeze basically my advanced porn, call me a traditionalist or not open enough for new porn thrills and porn fashions.
I remember Giorgio Grandis 1st real Prague scene with Luna Oara (GIO014, released Jan2015) getting DAP-ed and gushing "piss" out of her ass of course. I liked that scene a lot than, but piss was a minor element for me, even if she gets the wet clean-up at the end.

Luna Oara @ GIO014.

https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/29337

..but given a choice I later bought usually dry cuts until price differences narrowed.
And rosebuds as well as rosebud licking usually crosses me out, but I learned to get past if rest of footage is good enough for me, again I am talking about DAP.
Last but not least I still cannot get past TS scenes, even if it features a classical bg DAP of one of my favorite girls.

And most recently I feel I'm going back to basics like very first 1on1 anal porn romance in fine quality balls deep of course, leading to simple DAPbreakin's ideally like my Polish cutie Ava Harris.
GL403 - https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/215252

[Jocke]

I also remember going to this early porn boots in Paris and hoping to hit that scene first. You had to feed them with coins if you wanted to watch further. Old pre-internet times!
At that time that was my advanced porn.

This was funny! I have been to real cinema shows where people sat well spaced. I wasn't wanking but it was clear what the older gentlemen were doing. I remember watching an open pussy covering the screen. It must have been several meters wide!

Finding porn was damn difficult back then. Magazines were hidden behind the desk and you had to ask for them. The solution was gentlemen magazines with a few nude photos developing gradually into porn magazines over a decade. In the end you got a CD with the magazines, which was then the only reason to buy the magazines. With internet porn, those magazines died out. Video rentals had separate rooms for porn and you wouldn't want to run into your neighbour there. It is strange thinking about the shame of watching while all these performers have to be totally open about what they do. I guess you make that choice and don't look back. I think this is another reason to treat them with respect. They accept to be stigmatised for our benefit.

[Jocke]

While I have become more advanced I do think that FAQ is underrated. They do great simple anal sex with stunning camerawork and the right angles and positions. Just watched Robin bang Nelly Kent. Recommended!

[netzerkaiser]

While I have become more advanced I do think that FAQ is underrated. They do great simple anal sex with stunning camerawork and the right angles and positions. Just watched Robin bang Nelly Kent. Recommended!

I don't come in with objective of pointing people away from LP, but re: FAQ, 'Firstanalquest', right? The problem is the only other fine site that comes with it seems to be doubleviewcasting. Sure, take a 3 month subscription, but thats all you'll need. 21st Sextury is far better bet as you get ATA, DPF, AHF, Gapeland, Buttplays & more. I'd also like subscription to Teencoreclub, but I'm just wary of giving them CC details & they don't do Paypal. Dunno if anyone can report positive experience there? Other than that I'm considering EvilAngel for the EuroAngels stuff, but its looking from here it might be as badly packaged as LP's Private / DBM stuff, so I might pass on that. On positive note I just bought subscription to Allinternal etc website for 3 months. I'm already considering asking them to extend for 12 months 'cos its far better than I thought it would be.

PS only downside of 21st sextury is its PAINFULLY slow to load & navigate.

[netzerkaiser]

While I have become more advanced I do think that FAQ is underrated. They do great simple anal sex with stunning camerawork and the right angles and positions. Just watched Robin bang Nelly Kent. Recommended!

I don't come in with objective of pointing people away from LP, but re: FAQ, 'Firstanalquest', right? The problem is the only other fine site that comes with it seems to be doubleviewcasting. Sure, take a 3 month subscription, but thats all you'll need. 21st Sextury is far better bet as you get ATA, DPF, AHF, Gapeland, Buttplays & more. I'd also like subscription to Teencoreclub, but I'm just wary of giving them CC details & they don't do Paypal. Dunno if anyone can report positive experience there? Other than that I'm considering EvilAngel for the EuroAngels stuff, but its looking from here it might be as badly packaged as LP's Private / DBM stuff, so I might pass on that. On positive note I just bought subscription to Allinternal etc website for 3 months. I'm already considering asking them to extend for 12 months 'cos its far better than I thought it would be.

PS only downside of 21st sextury is its PAINFULLY slow to load & navigate.

LP's Private / DBM stuff, I meant DDF

[netzerkaiser]

I also remember going to this early porn boots in Paris and hoping to hit that scene first. You had to feed them with coins if you wanted to watch further. Old pre-internet times!
At that time that was my advanced porn.

This was funny! I have been to real cinema shows where people sat well spaced. I wasn't wanking but it was clear what the older gentlemen were doing. I remember watching an open pussy covering the screen. It must have been several meters wide!

Finding porn was damn difficult back then. Magazines were hidden behind the desk and you had to ask for them. The solution was gentlemen magazines with a few nude photos developing gradually into porn magazines over a decade. In the end you got a CD with the magazines, which was then the only reason to buy the magazines. With internet porn, those magazines died out. Video rentals had separate rooms for porn and you wouldn't want to run into your neighbour there. It is strange thinking about the shame of watching while all these performers have to be totally open about what they do. I guess you make that choice and don't look back. I think this is another reason to treat them with respect. They accept to be stigmatised for our benefit.

Oh! by late 90's which coincides with when it was really happening, alright, they were NOT undercover, but right up there on top shelf, in London anyway & I was terrified of signalling interest. I signalled courage & bought 3 Silwa mags in a Croydon newsagent in 2000, & the contempt with which the young east Asian seller looked at me was awful. Mind you I'm sure he was jacking off to same after hours so fuck the horrible c*nt. So the next forage I made, days later, was to Soho sex shop & I bought 3 or 4 videos... I remember one had a young bespectacled Monica Sweetheart in what turned out to be Matador 5 SexTrip. Why did she have to get nose-job? She was gorgeous as God made her. But I felt so much more comfortable in sex shop buying than in newsagents. So I've only bought from newsagents once (bad) & been in sex shop once (good), 'cos then I went home from big city, & lo & behold, internet arrives...

[Jocke]

You get 21 Sextury with Adulttime. I guess it is vice versa too?

With FAQ I just meant that that kind of simple well shot anal is sufficient provided the girls are young and the photography is well done. Most odd sites I just watch on PHP.

[101mike101]

The question, "When did you realize you liked advanced porn?", assumes that you've liked it all along but didn't know about it, until you saw it for the first time.

But I don't think that's how it works. Because you can't like something that you don't know about.

I think the porn industry is similar to the fashion industry and social media. Both the fashion industry and social media have popular influencers and trend-setters, who introduce and popularize new things and start new trends. And I think that's how it works in the porn industry too.

Influencers and trend-setters don't convert everyone for everything they do. But they start the snowball rolling, which after a while begins to roll downhill on its own and becomes an avalanche.

You need to have a natural inclination and a potential for liking something, which is like a downward slope on a mountain. But you need the right kind of an environment to activate this potential and make it real. It's like you need something that will create that initial snowball and get it rolling downhill. And that's what popular trend-setters and social influencers do. They push you downhill, when they get you to like something that you already have a potential for liking. They do something that you have a potential for liking. So, you fall for it and your potential becomes real.

And of course, not everybody can be a trend-setter and a social influencer. Trend-setters and social influencers are hot, good-looking people who are charismatic and popular.

So, if some average looking ordinary lady spreads her cheeks and takes on the anal dicks, then she probably won't set a new trend in the porn-industry. But when someone like Angela White starts spreading her cheeks for anal dicks after being in the porn industry for 11 years, then she probably converts a lot of her pussy-fans and gets them to like anal too. And other hot pussy ladies in the porn-industry might also follow her example to become anal queens in their own right.

[Jocke]

I fully agree. We all probably had a latent interest for anal, piss, buttroses etc before but didn't realise it before we came across it. I hope there are many new things I haven't discovered that I like yet.

However there are categories that do nothing for me and there are categories I totally dislike. The whole step family thing does nothing for me. I cannot think of anything less sexy than my sister or mother. Not that I dislike role play. For instance there is a great Bangbros scene where a very young guy on bicycle delivers a parcel to riley Reed who opens the door naked, brings him in and then piss on his face. They call it squirt but there is no doubt what it is and she does none of the fake pussy rubbing while pissing. I really like the idea of this naive boy getting the porn star treatment. Watch it!

I dislike anything which is BDSM or violent, regardless of the consent. I just cannot watch it, sorry!

[stewpidaz]

My porn tastes have evolved over time. When I first started discovering porn videos online I watched a lot of cumshot videos like Peter North just completely plastering pretty girls faces, and I used to get off on these videos. At one point I stumbled across an Angel Dark black pipe layers scene where Justin Slayer and the other guys fuck the absolute shit out of her. I never imagined such a hot babe getting defiled by a bunch of men like that. I couldn't get enough of these BBC gangbang scenes. Eventually I just wanted all the roughest hardest anal scenes, so I went through a phase of Rocco Siffredi which then changed to preferring Omar Galanti's scenes. I still haven't grown out of the Omar Galanti phase lol, I still think he has some of the best anal destructions in porn even though he retired way too soon. I haven't found anyone that compares to his combination of huge dick size and power fucking ass. I've had to search for more recently, and in my opinion the only thing that comes close is Mike Chapman. He has some really good stuff on HerLimit, and some good scenes on here. I hope he keeps making scenes for LP, HerLimit, and Rocco. I'm open to suggestions for new stuff I should check out!

[scarletxxx666]

what is advanced porn????

[101mike101]

what is advanced porn????

I'd say that 'advanced porn' is more hardcore than the regular hardcore. It's a third category of porn, where you have softcore, hardcore, and even more hardcore which is called 'advanced porn'.

Softcore means no oral, vaginal, or anal penetration. Hardcore has to include some penetration. But it can range anywhere form oral to vaginal, to anal and DP. It's a very broad category, and it's not specific enough to say what you mean. That's why there is a need to differentiate between ordinary hardcore and advanced hardcore.

And I'd say that advanced hardcore has to be mainly anal. Because anal isn't something every lady will do, especially at the start of their porn career. But many pussy-only porn-stars start doing anal after a year or two or more in the business. These ladies advance in their porn careers by spreading their cheeks for anal dicks. So for them, advanced porn is anal porn.

Of course, there are many other things that only experienced porn-stars do. And this is a part of advanced porn. But I'd say that a straight to anal, mostly anal scene for the lady is what makes you say without a doubt that this is advanced porn and not just ordinary hardcore.

[netzerkaiser]

what is advanced porn????

I'd say that 'advanced porn' is more hardcore than the regular hardcore. It's a third category of porn, where you have softcore, hardcore, and even more hardcore which is called 'advanced porn'.

Softcore means no oral, vaginal, or anal penetration. Hardcore has to include some penetration. But it can range anywhere form oral to vaginal, to anal and DP. It's a very broad category, and it's not specific enough to say what you mean. That's why there is a need to differentiate between ordinary hardcore and advanced hardcore.

And I'd say that advanced hardcore has to be mainly anal. Because anal isn't something every lady will do, especially at the start of their porn career. But many pussy-only porn-stars start doing anal after a year or two or more in the business. These ladies advance in their porn careers by spreading their cheeks for anal dicks. So for them, advanced porn is anal porn.

Of course, there are many other things that only experienced porn-stars do. And this is a part of advanced porn. But I'd say that a straight to anal, mostly anal scene for the lady is what makes you say without a doubt that this is advanced porn and not just ordinary hardcore.

Thats a great explanation, Mike. I realise myself that I'm into hardcore, not 'advanced'. However the legacy stuff on this site means I'm well satisfied as it is.