Replace suggestions with scene funding/requests

[MRA95]

Have a scene suggestions still available but have a donation much like gofundme.com alongside with the suggestions instead of votes we donate or fund towards it we can see how much is needed for the scene to happen and users fund for the scene instead of votes and if it reaches the required goal LP will make the scene happen if it doesn't reach goal in 3-4 months the scene request becomes invalid and users have their money returned to them on how much they have donated directors/studios are also allowed to donate if they like the idea.

[pussyhater]

Been thinking exactly the same kind of system... Would be more than perfect and I would gladly pay in advance and many times even more to make some scenes happen.

[Pineapples Studio]

Do you know how much a scene costs to produce?

[ExtremePornFan]

It looks like XXX said they were going to do something like that. See post below.
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=27126

[ExtremePornFan]

Do you know how much a scene costs to produce?

You should make a poll. My guess is $1200-$2000 for a one one one BG anal and anywhere from $5000 to $12000 for a DAP gangbang/piss etc depending on how many people who is starring etc. Tell me how wrong I am I am curious.

[Pineapples Studio]

Different models have different rates, and the cost also varies based on geography (for example, America is more expensive than Europe), but in general terms, a DAP-breaking piss orgy like the ones you guys would want will run you $5,000 at the bare minimum.

[Pineapples Studio]

The point is that most customers do not have that kind of money to spend, and the ones that do will not be able to support production on a regular basis. You think ticket prices are bad? Try paying for the entire production yourself. Even split among several people, it is going to be very expensive.

It's not a bad idea. Having the feature will be nice, but I predict that scenes which pass the dollar threshold to be produced will be occasional at best. This concept has been tried before and didn't work out well. LP has a much better CDN and an established platform, but I don't see this becoming popular. It is much more cost-effective to simply campaign for what you want here on the forums and vote with your wallet to send a message to the studios.

[Pineapples Studio]

It wasn't tried here. "SOS" tried it a few years back, albeit with rather poor implementation, but nobody showed significant interest in patronizing it.

[MRA95]

Been thinking exactly the same kind of system... Would be more than perfect and I would gladly pay in advance and many times even more to make some scenes happen.

I tend to agree and it simplifies it truly and gives all parties what they want from performers to LP to fans, its a win win situation

[MRA95]

The point is that most customers do not have that kind of money to spend, and the ones that do will not be able to support production on a regular basis. You think ticket prices are bad? Try paying for the entire production yourself. Even split among several people, it is going to be very expensive.

It's not a bad idea. Having the feature will be nice, but I predict that scenes which pass the dollar threshold to be produced will be occasional at best. This concept has been tried before and didn't work out well. LP has a much better CDN and an established platform, but I don't see this becoming popular. It is much more cost-effective to simply campaign for what you want here on the forums and vote with your wallet to send a message to the studios.

My message is like for example there are hardcore Lana rhoades fans or brooklyn chase fans out there who are willing to collectively put a decent sum down to make a scene happen and this will cover LP expenses and save them money also give fans more power by seeing how much we got to chip in for it to happen but saying that if it doesnt reach required target for example $4000 LP automatically refunds you after a set period of time for example 4 months but i do agree no fan can single handedly pay for DAPS or orgies but collectively we can, also dogfart charges $3000 for a boy girl scene standard and $4000 for boy girl anal

[MRA95]

Do you know how much a scene costs to produce?

I do know by individuals who have ordered customs from dogfart and anatomik media so i have estimates at hand
Boy girl blowjob scene $1500-2000
Boy girl standard $3000
Boy girl anal $4000
Boy boy girl $5000
Gangbang $6000
Who offer these kind of services

[MRA95]

The point is that most customers do not have that kind of money to spend, and the ones that do will not be able to support production on a regular basis. You think ticket prices are bad? Try paying for the entire production yourself. Even split among several people, it is going to be very expensive.

It's not a bad idea. Having the feature will be nice, but I predict that scenes which pass the dollar threshold to be produced will be occasional at best. This concept has been tried before and didn't work out well. LP has a much better CDN and an established platform, but I don't see this becoming popular. It is much more cost-effective to simply campaign for what you want here on the forums and vote with your wallet to send a message to the studios.

Have to agree with you. I don't see 'x' amount of ppl supporting a model whose expenses would be significantly higher (heck , put it on $2k) how many customers would support that idea let alone pay anything remotely close to it? I mean look at the current situation with how some customers react to the current price increase. As much as I would've liked it to succeed I don't see it going anywhere close to a market where certain customers would be able to handle such costs *not unless a huge amount of people wanted x girl to shoot* and make this production somewhat usual which again would cost significant amounts of $

PS. Could you please tell me how did this feature look like before? How much was the cost? Did any scene succeed?

Dogfart provides this service but to individuals same with anatomik media and casey calvert customs as does diciples of desire but LP can take it up a notch by having fans collectively pay for their like minded fantasies. It does work dogfart provides this option a fan paid for 3-5 recent brooklyn chase scenes single handedly. But my point is the casual fan may not be able to put that much down but collectively we can atleast make it a possibility. And the upsell about this is that the hardcore fan base of the given adult performer will put a good sum down to support their favourite pornstar.

[MRA95]

It looks like XXX said they were going to do something like that. See post below.
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=27126

Can you send me the link again can't seem to click on it

[MRA95]

Dogfart provides this service but to individuals same with anatomik media and casey calvert customs as does diciples of desire but LP can take it up a notch by having fans collectively pay for their like minded fantasies. It does work dogfart provides this option a fan paid for 3-5 recent brooklyn chase scenes single handedly. But my point is the casual fan may not be able to put that much down but collectively we can atleast make it a possibility. And the upsell about this is that the hardcore fan base of the given adult performer will put a good sum down to support their favourite pornstar.

I didn't know any other website had anything similar to this. I do think this might be a good idea what I am not entirely sure about is what the outcome will be, will it succeed being something that some customers would spend their tickets on? Only God knows but for the time being I do think it has some potential despite the criticism LP's been taking recently. Be it because some claim quality isn't as good as before, models don't seem to be too appealing to everybody or simply because some think that the site's derailing from what it was originally known for.

the website can easily bounce back to its glory years like 2015-2018 just got to bring in more directors/studios because some the old directors/studios have left LP and left a massive void so they just need replacing, i do think this can work since other porn networks have implemented this and they always profit hugely and give fans what they want at the same time, overall i think this can succeed, LP Should bring Porno Dan he tends to listen to fans and would be a huge asset to the website also he is based in prague. I would pay huge sum towards certain male and female performers for a scene at LP

[MRA95]

Do you know how much a scene costs to produce?

You should make a poll. My guess is $1200-$2000 for a one one one BG anal and anywhere from $5000 to $12000 for a DAP gangbang/piss etc depending on how many people who is starring etc. Tell me how wrong I am I am curious.

Fans spend on $300-500 on their favourite pornstars on [spam] for 2 minute custom clips so i think they would spend atleast $20 or even to see their favourites on LP

[Pineapples Studio]

Consistently?

For a standard BG anal scene, if we assume a per-person donation of $20, you'd need something like 125-150 donors to meet the production cost. I can see that happening occasionally, but often? I'm not so sure.

[pastaga]

They have to be showcased on the main page with precise description. Then maybe people with pledge.

[Destroyherass]

I think it might be worth a shot, but once you start funding scenes, people will become even more entitled. Think they are complaining now? Imagine once they have 'paid' for something and you don't 'deliver'. It will never be good enough for some.

[pastaga]

I do not except scenes to be fully funded this way, but at least it will show if there is any interest from the customers.
Like try to add a dozen of projects on the main page, and see which ones are the most pledged. Could be a minimum like 30% of the total cost.

In fact, ideally there should be two kinds of pledge :
- scene price, and you get the scene.
- 10% of the costs or more, and you get 10% (maybe a little less) of the profit.

[Pineapples Studio]

I think it might be worth a shot, but once you start funding scenes, people will become even more entitled. Think they are complaining now? Imagine once they have 'paid' for something and you don't 'deliver'. It will never be good enough for some.

Exactly.

[MRA95]

I think it might be worth a shot, but once you start funding scenes, people will become even more entitled. Think they are complaining now? Imagine once they have 'paid' for something and you don't 'deliver'. It will never be good enough for some.

I mean fortunately the people who complain the most are just a tiny 1-5% at tops who barely purchase anything but still having people's money pledged towards a scene might be skeptical to some. What about people who pledged more than others? What if someone decides to put $500, what will he get in return? Will he get a % of the sales? I don't see LP implementing something like that. The more a scene sells the more you get? Personally I would love this to work but there are many factors that are still unknown therefore need to be worked on.

I think they should just follow dogfart network, diciples of desire, anatomik media and casey calvert customs example and most reviews from people who decided to do customs with above studios said its like their fantasies have come to life, i don't think fans should get sales commissions otherwise how would LP profit from this instead what they can do is make scene available to fans who put towards it but if they didn't they can use their tickets to purchase it. Also you have mentioned what if someone puts $500 towards it but that amount is that individuals personal choice for example you went to the superbowl and your an nfl fan you can choose your seating area from vip seats to high standard seats to average seats depending on your personal choice and what fits your budget. For example if Lisa Ann was still active i would easily put down $1000-1500 for her to have a scene at LP since i have been following her career for many years.

[MRA95]

I think it might be worth a shot, but once you start funding scenes, people will become even more entitled. Think they are complaining now? Imagine once they have 'paid' for something and you don't 'deliver'. It will never be good enough for some.

I mean fortunately the people who complain the most are just a tiny 1-5% at tops who barely purchase anything but still having people's money pledged towards a scene might be skeptical to some. What about people who pledged more than others? What if someone decides to put $500, what will he get in return? Will he get a % of the sales? I don't see LP implementing something like that. The more a scene sells the more you get? Personally I would love this to work but there are many factors that are still unknown therefore need to be worked on.

What they can do is for fans who pledge more than a $500-1000 give them perks of some sorts which gives them leverage over normal fans non money.

[Pineapples Studio]

Creating a caste system based on payment within your own customer base sounds like a really great way to amplify minority voices and lose a significant chunk of your customers.

Don't get me wrong. I've spent a lot of my time in this thread naysaying, but I think crowd-funding could be a really cool feature. I just feel like most of you will use it as another excuse to bitch if the stuff you like doesn't get produced. I also think that creating a caste system is a phenomenally shitty idea.

[MRA95]

They have to be showcased on the main page with precise description. Then maybe people with pledge.

Exactly full description from start to finish with no details spared
Such as clothing, storyline, script, location, positions, dialogue, categories. So fans can decide whether to invest their hard earned cash or not.I agree with this 100%

[MRA95]

Creating a caste system based on payment within your own customer base sounds like a really great way to amplify minority voices and lose a significant chunk of your customers.

Don't get me wrong. I've spent a lot of my time in this thread naysaying, but I think crowd-funding could be a really cool feature. I just feel like most of you will use it as another excuse to bitch if the stuff you like doesn't get produced. I also think that creating a caste system is a phenomenally shitty idea.

Thanks it can work if implemented correctly and anatomik media/casey calvert customs has proved this by catering to their individual clientele needs with all details asked and do not start production of scene until everything has been clarified and the given performers are available to perform then its set in stone and can start to proceed with payment plan but i think their will always be critics/haters throughout the porn world and beyond for example not everyone is an philidelphia eagles fan or not everyone is a real madrid.

[MRA95]

Creating a caste system based on payment within your own customer base sounds like a really great way to amplify minority voices and lose a significant chunk of your customers.

Don't get me wrong. I've spent a lot of my time in this thread naysaying, but I think crowd-funding could be a really cool feature. I just feel like most of you will use it as another excuse to bitch if the stuff you like doesn't get produced. I also think that creating a caste system is a phenomenally shitty idea.

Thanks for hearing me out appreciated

[ExtremePornFan]

It looks like XXX said they were going to do something like that. See post below.
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=27126

Can you send me the link again can't seem to click on it

https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=27126 Let me know if that worked for you.The post is titled Custom Videos from LegalPorno/AnalVids - Would you want one? You could find it in a search if the link does not work.

[DPraved]

What LP could do is a checkbox based scene request page, where a user first choose models followed by what features should be included in the scene while having the option to enter a script or additional images for specific clothing etc. Then, instead of just voting on the scene, other users will pre-purchase the scene with a cash amount that depends on what actions were selected and the number of models and actors included in the scene. The funding goal should be calculated in the same manner as the pre-purchase price and total progress towards the goal should be shown.
If and when the scene has been produced, anyone who has pre-purchased the scene will be able to add it to library with no additional cost, or if disappointed with the result, convert the already paid amount into tickets instead. If the funding goal is not reached after a certain period of time, all pre-paid amounts get converted into tickets.
This is a simple crow-funding model but without a direct refund option, which means that any money users pledge towards a scene would be in addition to what they already spend for tickets or memberships. This makes it an additional revenue stream while at the same time provides LP with the opportunity to produce scenes based on user request, at a reduced financial risk.

[MRA95]

It looks like XXX said they were going to do something like that. See post below.
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=27126

Can you send me the link again can't seem to click on it

https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=96&t=27126 Let me know if that worked for you.The post is titled Custom Videos from LegalPorno/AnalVids - Would you want one? You could find it in a search if the link does not work.

Thank you very much i am very much obliged can you forward this thread link to xxx as i think the posts of this discussion has alot of valid points from all individuals has a lot more value than the other topic even though both based on same subject. I have read most the comments on the other thread its mostly negativity towards scene requests.

[MRA95]

What LP could do is a checkbox based scene request page, where a user first choose models followed by what features should be included in the scene while having the option to enter a script or additional images for specific clothing etc. Then, instead of just voting on the scene, other users will pre-purchase the scene with a cash amount that depends on what actions were selected and the number of models and actors included in the scene. The funding goal should be calculated in the same manner as the pre-purchase price and total progress towards the goal should be shown.
If and when the scene has been produced, anyone who has pre-purchased the scene will be able to add it to library with no additional cost, or if disappointed with the result, convert the already paid amount into tickets instead. If the funding goal is not reached after a certain period of time, all pre-paid amounts get converted into tickets.
This is a simple crow-funding model but without a direct refund option, which means that any money users pledge towards a scene would be in addition to what they already spend for tickets or memberships. This makes it an additional revenue stream while at the same time provides LP with the opportunity to produce scenes based on user request, at a reduced financial risk.

Yes precisely they a checkbox is an excellent idea which can include
Script
Story
Clothing
Performers
Location
Catagories
And other additional features included for extras
With goal shown so users can see progress and how far off they are for scene going into production
They should give minimum 3-4 months time once submitted also if it doesn't reach target goal they could either convert them to tickets or refund your money back for future scene funding with tickets counting, it can be additional revenue coming in for LP which is a bonus also another stream of income with non funding users having to pay to watch the scene, they basically will be in profit this way if the scene sells high they will make a fortune if not they will break even but simply won't lose out.

[MRA95]

I think they should just follow dogfart network, diciples of desire, anatomik media and casey calvert customs example and most reviews from people who decided to do customs with above studios said its like their fantasies have come to life, i don't think fans should get sales commissions otherwise how would LP profit from this instead what they can do is make scene available to fans who put towards it but if they didn't they can use their tickets to purchase it. Also you have mentioned what if someone puts $500 towards it but that amount is that individuals personal choice for example you went to the superbowl and your an nfl fan you can choose your seating area from vip seats to high standard seats to average seats depending on your personal choice and what fits your budget. For example if Lisa Ann was still active i would easily put down $1000-1500 for her to have a scene at LP since i have been following her career for many years.

As some other member said on here. This can go from amazing to horseshit if done wrong. If we (customers that want a scene happen) pledge money we would need the details of what will she wear, who will she shot with and how will the story go. If that milestone is achieved for LP to start booking the said model we would need details on how will it look like (considering we're PREPAYING something that haven't been released yet). Other than that I agree with your statement.

it can go wrong but if implemented correctly it has potential i think LP should look at the above sites mentioned look at them on how they utilise this to their advantage and on how to upsell to fans because thats how your business will thrive but LP has no upsells which i think is the main factor to their slow and steady decline. I'm not criticising LP in any way i do enjoy their scenes but i do think there is room for improvement.

[MRA95]

What LP could do is a checkbox based scene request page, where a user first choose models followed by what features should be included in the scene while having the option to enter a script or additional images for specific clothing etc. Then, instead of just voting on the scene, other users will pre-purchase the scene with a cash amount that depends on what actions were selected and the number of models and actors included in the scene. The funding goal should be calculated in the same manner as the pre-purchase price and total progress towards the goal should be shown.
If and when the scene has been produced, anyone who has pre-purchased the scene will be able to add it to library with no additional cost, or if disappointed with the result, convert the already paid amount into tickets instead. If the funding goal is not reached after a certain period of time, all pre-paid amounts get converted into tickets.
This is a simple crow-funding model but without a direct refund option, which means that any money users pledge towards a scene would be in addition to what they already spend for tickets or memberships. This makes it an additional revenue stream while at the same time provides LP with the opportunity to produce scenes based on user request, at a reduced financial risk.

I can see the checkbox and crowdfunding system working its not doomed to fail it has ticked every criteria there is and i am a fan of this idea.

[MRA95]

Would anyone like to start or chip in for a scene on gofundme.com in nearby future we can get a dogfart/disciples of desire/Anatomik media even casey calvert customs to make the scene, i would like to experiment on scene funding as a tester, to see how it works.

[MRA95]

This way we can prove to LP this can work by showing them the power of the people, I'm thinking of starting this in decemeber a gofundme.com crowdfunding for a scene. Everyone drop a list of your 10 favourite pornstars you would like to see and if any one of them are coincidentally my favourites i will automatically chip in $1500-2000 then we only have half way to go, you can put as little as you like or much as you please.

[MRA95]

This way we can prove to LP this can work by showing them the power of the people, I'm thinking of starting this in decemeber a gofundme.com crowdfunding for a scene. Everyone drop a list of your 10 favourite pornstars you would like to see and if any one of them are coincidentally my favourites i will automatically chip in $1500-2000 then we only have half way to go, you can put as little as you like or much as you please.

I'd go with ryan conner, gia paige, romi rain, moriah mills.

I don't even have to go that deep into 10 names. With these 4 shooting for LP I think I would spend 50 tickets on each without even thinking of it.

Nice I'd go all out on romi rain or ryan connor scenes, you have great taste in women my friend, they are in my top 10

[Ab.cad90210]

Do you know how much a scene costs to produce?

You should make a poll. My guess is $1200-$2000 for a one one one BG anal and anywhere from $5000 to $12000 for a DAP gangbang/piss etc depending on how many people who is starring etc. Tell me how wrong I am I am curious.

Fans spend on $300-500 on their favourite pornstars on [spam] for 2 minute custom clips so i think they would spend atleast $20 or even to see their favourites on LP

With only fans first they have to do a lot of free content to build up a Fanbase, even then it’s a minority of idiots that actually do this. I’m sure LP he is finding this out now after turning into a clip store - short term gain for long-term loss, and alienating the people that actually buy stuff regularly.

This is not strictly true. I made a BGA scene for $100 years ago, a DAP scene with penis+ dildos where i knew cost was less than $200

[MRA95]

You should make a poll. My guess is $1200-$2000 for a one one one BG anal and anywhere from $5000 to $12000 for a DAP gangbang/piss etc depending on how many people who is starring etc. Tell me how wrong I am I am curious.[/quote]
Fans spend on $300-500 on their favourite pornstars on [spam] for 2 minute custom clips so i think they would spend atleast $20 or even to see their favourites on LP[/quote]


With only fans first they have to do a lot of free content to build up a Fanbase, even then it’s a minority of idiots that actually do this. I’m sure LP he is finding this out now after turning into a clip store - short term gain for long-term loss, and alienating the people that actually buy stuff regularly.

This is not strictly true. I made a BGA scene for $100 years ago, a DAP scene with penis+ dildos where i knew cost was less than $200[/quote]
That is true i agree with the 1st paragraph they have alienated their fan base and turned it into a clipstore i would prefer monthly membership to each studio instead for example Vixen group owns Tushy and Blacked.com but memberships to both are separate depending on the users preference, LP could do a similar thing with the studios have separate subscriptions with basic monthly membership giving you access to all videos from that studio with up to 5-10 downloads included with advanced giving all access with 10-20 downloads then have an ultimate package for unlimited downloads.

The 2nd paragraph may be true back in the day but i don't see anyone performing B/G sex for $200 the rates have gone up drastically plus certain sexual acts have different rates however this could be the case with newbies trying to make a name for themselves but mainstream american female performers won't work under $1500 thats the starting price unless its a blowjob scene

[MRA95]

I'd go with ryan conner, gia paige, romi rain, moriah mills.

I don't even have to go that deep into 10 names. With these 4 shooting for LP I think I would spend 50 tickets on each without even thinking of it.[/quote]
Nice I'd go all out on romi rain or ryan connor scenes, you have great taste in women my friend, they are in my top 10[/quote]

If only the casting team would listen to our inquires I think the website would have a significant boost. I could've spent a significant amount of $ if the said model would shoot on LP (Gonzo, specifically) but since they are not interested in it might as well not be part of something that they don't want you to, mate. As I said I am pretty sure there are fans out there that would pay significant amounts of cash for certain models but raising a crowfund wouldn't help too much imo. Not because I say so but because LP seems to not care too much about this (hence the lack of response). That or they might think that it 'will not be enough' or like some other people said 'it will have significant costs that you will most likely not be able to raise funds for'.

If this is not implemented I would go ahead and ask why do we have a 'suggest' button where most of the suggestions are just that, suggestions, that'll most likely never take any place. Correct me if I am wrong and tell me what suggestions exactly were fulfilled in the last 60 days? Were there any?[/quote]

That is true none of the suggestions from the last 60 were fulfilled voiding its purpose I'm not expecting LP to film every single one those suggestions but even a handful of them would be good enough for me, you are correct on this matter the suggestions page is nothing more than Ideas of fans which are never put into consideration don't get me wrong it could have worked if we could see how much votes needed to have the scene suggestion to go into production and it should be once target of votes has been achieved studios have to make it come to life but i spoke to LP support and he said that even if votes have been achieved studios may not necessarily make it happen nullifying suggestions page even further. I am pretty sure my suggestion of Interracial all star gangbang its an orgy scene with many top female performers from Adriana Chechik to Abella Danger even my fave of all time Kagney Linn Karter with many others check it out, it must have got significant votes but still nothing from LPs part unfortunately.

[MRA95]

[/quote]
That is true none of the suggestions from the last 60 were fulfilled voiding its purpose I'm not expecting LP to film every single one those suggestions but even a handful of them would be good enough for me, you are correct on this matter the suggestions page is nothing more than Ideas of fans which are never put into consideration don't get me wrong it could have worked if we could see how much votes needed to have the scene suggestion to go into production and it should be once target of votes has been achieved studios have to make it come to life but i spoke to LP support and he said that even if votes have been achieved studios may not necessarily make it happen nullifying suggestions page even further. I am pretty sure my suggestion of Interracial all star gangbang its an orgy scene with many top female performers from Adriana Chechik to Abella Danger even my fave of all time Kagney Linn Karter with many others check it out, it must have got significant votes but still nothing from LPs part unfortunately.[/quote]

You said it yourself, pal. That suggest button is nothing but a joke that LP hardly takes any look at. While it's somewhat impossible to fulfill all people's needs I can't even see any request that took place (again, correct me if I am mistaken). If a web page shows no interest in having some customers pay to bring some models then so be it. I don't want to bump this in 'hopes' of getting what I want. If this was something they were looking at they would've given a solid reply but since there's none thus far I will go ahead and not suggest stuff that the website is not interested in (despite our constant requests).[/quote]
I understand and get you completely its exactly how i feel and many others who have voices but LP refuses to acknowledge us or hear us out, they clearly don't want us to be heard even if it can be greatly beneficial for them we are essential voices of the voiceless but change won't come unless action is taken not with words unfortunately my friend, are you still up for a fundraiser for a custom scene so far 2 votes down for a romi rain scene but require more people to vote for this before setting it up, any others with their top 10 performers they would like to see in a custom scene drop a list of names down below thanks, this is the only way we can hope we can inspire change at LP.

[MRA95]

Anyone else drop your top 10 female performers down or even top 5 you would like to see