LP core studios price fairness gone?

[dap-addict]

I really like that price transparency on LP, i.e. more expensive porn acts and more studs fucking a girl cost more.
Wet costs more than dry, DAP more than DP, 5on1 more than 2on1, US girls are more expensive etc.
It has created a solidarity between LP studios and porn users.

Now looks like this is gone and I am not talking of OTS because its not LP core studios.
But for sure those GLab Piter scenes should be cheaper than GIO Prague scenes for instance simply because local Russian rates are not the same as local US rates or rates of US girls flown in to Prague. Such differences were passed on to users before, it was very transparent. But now post-covid we all seem to pretend investment in a DAP scene with local girls in Piter was the same as with local girls in Prague.
Just for instance look at this 2 scenes:
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/150418 (GL237, 7,2tkt)
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/150450 (GIO1482, 7,2tkt while this is a cross-financing price for 7on2 in pt.2)

How can it be that a wet 2on2 DAP shot in Piter costs users the same as a wet 2on2 shot at GIO Prague?
Nobody will convince me girls and studs are payed Prague going rates in Piter. Local rates there are just significantly cheaper. And now compare this with Marco Nero's locally shot Italian scenes: Again almost same price for GIO1461 (3on1, but only 1 girl DAP-ed): https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/150001

So all of these scenes meant about same investment?
Or do we leave the fair LP studio-user price transparency contract slowly? And if so why?

[dap-addict]

Btw, just checked: Mr. Andersons 1on1 anal intros have cost the same 2,8tkt 1,5 year ago no matter whether shot locally in Piter or locally in Prague. Also Dylans 1on1 cost the same at that time. Base anal fee is much lower in Piter than Prague ofc. Today they cost 3,9tkt, but thats the general price rise.

Thus generally it looks like a GLab-GIO price streamlineing.
A bit like gonzo's Brasilian and Columbian trip ticket prices, ofc local fees are much cheaper, but in that case studs like Chris Diamond etc. were specially flown in. In GLab Piter case all is produced locally by local staff.

[avanfurwet]

We fans don't know if selling prices are explicitly built up only from costs. I think they factor in the numbers of copies they expect to sell at a chosen price point.
Possibly LP are testing customers' acceptance or rejection of much higher prices, and how it effects the number of copies they can sell.

For sure the average customer is in an uncomfortable place right now when the latest Sara Bell 6x1 scene sells for >10 tickets.
A customer on a monthly ticket recharge plan can now afford only 1 such scene a week.

I think that if porn production costs really have risen recently in the same way as LP selling prices (not convinced), then all those porn businesses with subscription sales models will have to increase prices by a lot, recycle more old content, or go out of business fast. Probably they'd each be afraid to be the first to raise prices and lose subscribers.

We'll just have to wait and see what happens as the incoming recession begins to bite.

[number1s]

How can it be that a wet 2on2 DAP shot in Piter costs users the same as a wet 2on2 shot at GIO Prague?
Nobody will convince me girls and studs are payed Prague going rates in Piter.

You are right of course. Reminds me of my own industry where some genius decided to recruit lots of bright people in India and the Philippines, providing them to customers at the same chargeout rates as Western European software consultants, considerably boosting profitability. The customers of course refused to pay these rates for non-European consultants.

It’s the same here. We are testing price elasticity. The outcome may be different because unlike hard nosed businessmen, the customers here tend to think with their dicks rather than their heads so may pay more than 10 tickets for a scene.

GLab pricing aside, the average price for a scene here has doubled over a period of 5 years. I used to buy several scenes a month, it’s now likely to be no more than 5 or 6. As I tend to watch a scene only once, a new scene has to match virtually all of my criteria.

Most of us will exhibit price resistance at some point, but for some here demand is truly inelastic.

[dap-addict]

How can it be that a wet 2on2 DAP shot in Piter costs users the same as a wet 2on2 shot at GIO Prague?
Nobody will convince me girls and studs are payed Prague going rates in Piter.

You are right of course. Reminds me of my own industry...

Most of us will exhibit price resistance at some point, but for some here demand is truly inelastic.

Maybe they are just also leaving an option for post-covid-crisis to grab consumers really with those GLab and also Natasha Teen Productions in Columbia? In both cases a 1on1 anal should transfer to about 2tkt in fair price level I think.

For me so far it was clear that I do wanna support all new Piter rookies I want(ed) a DAPbreakin' scene with.
Its a matter of supporting the girls and also a studio and directors providing their best possible work for this industry and getting that dried up talent pool running again really. As user I tried to behave sustainable for all parties involved. Because otherwise I could also watch those few 100 unwatched but already bought mainly gonzo scenes.

But as a customer I also need a feeling of being treated in a fair way - like it was before.

[pastaga]

If they really want to sell the scenes that price, they'd better add another membership option that fit these new prices.
Actually with 68€ you can buy like 15 scenes like the latest one with Sara, over 3 months...

At least something like 3 x 100 tkts for 115€ would fit more. It would be just 38,3 cts for a ticket instead of 41,5 but at least we could buy a scene every two days or so (considering a mix of GIO, Gonzo and GioLab)...

[DPraved]

If they really want to sell the scenes that price, they'd better add another membership option that fit these new prices.
Actually with 68€ you can buy like 15 scenes like the latest one with Sara, over 3 months...

At least something like 3 x 100 tkts for 115€ would fit more. It would be just 38,3 cts for a ticket instead of 41,5 but at least we could buy a scene every two days or so (considering a mix of GIO, Gonzo and GioLab)...

Yes, the membership model makes no sense with these prices. I find that I have to hold back on supporting models I'm interested in just in case some must-buys should show up later on.

[magizi87]

I wouldn't pay these prices even back when LP recruited actual beauties.
Nikita Bellucci, Blanche Bradburry, Timea Bella, Lita Phoenix, etc,
and were pairing these babes with actual STUDS, Kid Jamaica, Nacho, Ed Junior, Chris Diamond, Mike Angelo, etc

I mean, back then I thought I was pushing it paying over $250 USD in a year, for porn.... more like $350 with the sporadic reload. I don't even want to look back and see the real numbers, lol.

[Sweep11]

Quite right Magizi, never do the maths, it’ll blow your mind

I did it once a few years back and realised I could’ve bought a decent NEW CAR for what I’ve spent on porn over the last 30 years!

[avanfurwet]

... even back when LP recruited actual beauties.
Nikita Bellucci, Blanche Bradburry, Timea Bella, Lita Phoenix, etc, ...

Disagree.
The girls you mention are beauties of course. So are many others both before and since.
I think LP are still recruiting actual beauties, and some of the new Czech, Russian and Ukranian girls are stunning.

[ExtremePornFan]

I though GLab Piter scenes are produced by a separate company then GIO buys the content and resells it on LP with the intent of making a profit on his investment. If that is correct the extra hands in the pot would drive the price up a little. I would also compare the price on other websites that have one a week updates it's what about $20 a month so $5 a scene so about the same and few have content that matches LPs. I don't also don't want to pay more than I have to and they should not sell for less than they can get. That said, I would rather pay higher than even the current rate and have LP studies use the extra cash to make sure the girls actually make it to Prague for the full works rather than losing them to agents for boring porn companies, cam sites, girl girl porn or whatever else.

[Sir Noel]

That said, I would rather pay higher than even the current rate.....

I am sure you will get your wish a few months down the line

[ExtremePornFan]

That said, I would rather pay higher than even the current rate.....

I am sure you will get your wish a few months down the line

Still cheap thrills. Here I see people pay $10 for a pack of cigarettes and later 100k to try and fight lung cancer.

[RedBaron]

If they really want to sell the scenes that price, they'd better add another membership option that fit these new prices.
Actually with 68€ you can buy like 15 scenes like the latest one with Sara, over 3 months...

At least something like 3 x 100 tkts for 115€ would fit more. It would be just 38,3 cts for a ticket instead of 41,5 but at least we could buy a scene every two days or so (considering a mix of GIO, Gonzo and GioLab)...

Yes, the membership model makes no sense with these prices. I find that I have to hold back on supporting models I'm interested in just in case some must-buys should show up later on.

Same to me! I will not spend more money but I will choose the scenes I buy more carefully..
I cancelled my recurring membership because my ticketstock was rising.
Bad quality with highest prices will not sell!

[dap-addict]

There are first adjustments after this and 1 more post: DP price for GLab was lowered by around 15%. Its small success, but it is one!

I sure dont want them to loose money and porn production needs to stay sustainable, but I need the feeling to be treated fair as a user and also loyal customer like it was before. Big plus of LP was transparency and fair investment based ticket prices. So far only IV left that model, but they sell much less anyway. If now GIO/GLab leaves its really worring.

[ExtremePornFan]

There are first adjustments after this and 1 more post: DP price for GLab was lowered by around 15%. Its small success, but it is one!

I sure dont want them to loose money and porn production needs to stay sustainable, but I need the feeling to be treated fair as a user and also loyal customer like it was before. Big plus of LP was transparency and fair investment based ticket prices. So far only IV left that model, but they sell much less anyway. If now GIO/GLab leaves its really worring.

Nice to know your point did not fall on deaf ears.

[avanfurwet]

Nice to know your point did not fall on deaf ears.

I think LP only pay attention to the sales numbers.
We have no clue about their profitability, or the fairness of their pricing.
Just a recent unexplained big price rise.
We can pay up, buy less, or go away.
They owe us nothing, nor we them.

Competitors can enter the market.
The recession may change the game.
As the very stable genius likes to say because he has no clue ~ we'll see what happens.

[rroper472]

TO BE HONEST I DON'T LIKE ALL THESE MEDIOCRE STUDIO SCENES THAT'S ON HERE NOW!!

IF PAY MORE FOR TOP SCENES BUT NOT FOR 10MINS 20MINS SCENES