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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Sat Jul 25, 2020 11:47 am

The JM move is a bit worrying indeed.
Its for the future when flying to EU will be possible again, but also looks like Nata wants to take an easier and softer porn approach. She's the 2nd First Models model after Lottie Magne to join JM which is geared around Tushy as we know. Add that her last GLab scene was only a mis-labelled DAP and if she shot a DP for Nick Rock/GLab its another sign she can't or doenst want perform more DAPs.
I dont blame her, her DAPbreakin' was weak and sold good only due to her exceptional beauty, but thats the way the best looking First Models might go. Start with them in Piter, but switch to JM as soon as possible for lighter porn work.
Needless to say its sure not what GIO/LP was planning for supporting the new Piter GLab studio. :(
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:05 pm

pastaga wrote:It will be the first anal under her new nickname.
Maybe Lansky will even make her exclusive...

Lansky has nothing to do. No more involved.

BTW julmodels girls work almost always in exclusive for the agency. (Thats what juliana Grandi prefers).

now, we don't know the details, maybe someone has put her in contact with JM, or JM has noticed her and has signed the contract, even though she knows that for now she cannot leave Russia (and again, I wonder in the meantime if she continues to work with the other stage name, which I find even better, the new one seems the usual "prima donna" diva wannabe ... in perfect Tushy style).

however, is thanks to the scenes on LP, which willy-nilly make popular.

The new stage name I think is due more to the fact that they want to earn something more with a probable first anal, I don't know if Tushy is aware of it (I think yes) or they seriously fooled.

May Thai is also doing Blacked / Vixen but hasn't changed her stage name, the same as in LP's time.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Sat Jul 25, 2020 12:28 pm

Well, in the end we can say that JM (and the fact that Juliana Grandi is now the main director producer on the EU side of Blacked/Tushy/Vixen as a lot to do) has cut out a lot of models from both PW and LP.
At least on the LP side, to go to JM they have to do the scenes for giolabs first, so at least we have something... before they do the "vanilla-classy style".
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby Luccio59 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:02 pm

Recent information

Nata paradise and May fiesta ( her friend ) have a new porn manager.
So they stop working for Nikolas.

If anyone knows of a production to make new double penetration scenes ... Natalia is available

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby grey00owl » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:27 pm

Luccio59 wrote:Recent information

Nata paradise and May fiesta ( her friend ) have a new porn manager.
So they stop working for Nikolas.

If anyone knows of a production to make new double penetration scenes ... Natalia is available

I think that a model, no matter who's the manager/agent, should be free to work for any producer, provided that requested contents and wage are in balance. I don't think they are not willing anymore to shoot for Nikolas or Gio's Lab. My hope however is to see Nata and May at LP main studios in Prague.

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby Luccio59 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 1:29 pm

grey00owl wrote:
Luccio59 wrote:Recent information

Nata paradise and May fiesta ( her friend ) have a new porn manager.
So they stop working for Nikolas.

If anyone knows of a production to make new double penetration scenes ... Natalia is available

I think that a model, no matter who's the manager/agent, should be free to work for any producer, provided that requested contents and wage are in balance. I don't think they are not willing anymore to shoot for Nikolas or Gio's Lab. My hope however is to see Nata and May at LP main studios in Prague.


Totally agree with you

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Sun Jul 26, 2020 2:57 pm

Luccio59 wrote:Recent information

Nata paradise and May fiesta ( her friend ) have a new porn manager.

May Fiesta, too?
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby Luccio59 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 3:17 pm

dap-addict wrote:
Luccio59 wrote:Recent information

Nata paradise and May fiesta ( her friend ) have a new porn manager.

May Fiesta, too?
:mad: :confused:


Yes may fiesta too

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Sun Jul 26, 2020 4:35 pm

:(
Whats her new name than?
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby Luccio59 » Sun Jul 26, 2020 7:09 pm

dap-addict wrote::(
Whats her new name than?


New porn manager ? I don't know

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:21 pm

Her new manager I know.
But May Fiesta's new porn name?
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Sun Jul 26, 2020 9:22 pm

They change stage name like underwear.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby grey00owl » Sun Jul 26, 2020 10:51 pm

BlueShadow wrote:They change stage name like underwear.

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby DPraved » Tue Jul 28, 2020 12:13 pm

Found this on [spam]: <url removed>
Nick vs JM.png

Either Nick doesn't get enough blood to his brain, or JM has pulled a fast one.
We'll see how this unfolds I guess.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby ExtremePornFan » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:05 pm

DPraved wrote:Found this on [spam]: <url removed>
Nick vs JM.png

Either Nick doesn't get enough blood to his brain, or JM has pulled a fast one.
We'll see how this unfolds I guess.


The pics they are showcasing her with are from her GioLab scenes? Maybe GIO allows girls to use some photos for their portfolio, I don't know. But it seams fishy. Has Nata actually chimed in about this? I would think Nick Rock knows what is going on. I guess we have to wait and see how it plays out.

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Tue Jul 28, 2020 1:29 pm

Its not as easy, but almost all agencies use for work sample pics.
That Nik vs. JM case is fishy a bit since JM has a short video on her model page with her telling how happy she was to work for them. She's still using her full old name, not Stefany Kyler. She speaks excellent english btw.

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Nate Paradise talking to JM new model offer scanners.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby grey00owl » Tue Jul 28, 2020 2:18 pm

dap-addict wrote:Its not as easy, but almost all agencies use for work sample pics.
That Nik vs. JM case is fishy a bit since JM has a short video on her model page with her telling how happy she was to work for them. She's still using her full old name, not Stefany Kyler. She speaks excellent english btw.


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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:11 pm

dap-addict wrote:Its not as easy, but almost all agencies use for work sample pics.
That Nik vs. JM case is fishy a bit since JM has a short video on her model page with her telling how happy she was to work for them. She's still using her full old name, not Stefany Kyler. She speaks excellent english btw.

Nata Paradise 7-20.png

Of course changing the stage name is the first step/signal for controlling them. They make the things clear:
'No, your name will be Stefany from now on... it's a better name, listen to my advice... I don't tell you this for personal gains and to cheat someone on the fact that you are a "new" model that never has done anal. No, trust me, my child.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Tue Jul 28, 2020 3:13 pm

Also PW, in most of the case, his him that give the stage names to the newbie (thats why we have a lot of ''silk'' XD)...just saying.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby Destroyherass » Tue Jul 28, 2020 7:16 pm

This is why you need to do more to keep diamond star girls like her! The competition will have no trouble eating them up instead! If she is gone, its another huge waste for lp without her even having done much top anal scenes. If you don't retain such girls for lp future its not a good sign. Let us wait and see.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jul 29, 2020 12:45 am

That release makes me wonder even more: :confused:
Homemade POV video with top russian teen Nata Paradise OTS516
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/150438


But doenst change the fact that her probably same day shot JM video message looks authentic and she even mentiones them as opposed to Lottie Magne in her JM video PR message.
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Re: Nata Paradise

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dap-addict wrote:That release makes me wonder even more: :confused:
Homemade POV video with top russian teen Nata Paradise OTS516
https://pornbox.com/application/watch-page/150438


But doenst change the fact that her probably same day shot JM video message looks authentic and she even mentiones them as opposed to Lottie Magne in her JM video PR message.

This scene was probably shot a couple of months ago, so it should not be relevant to the current controversy.

Regarding this scene however, all I can say is FUCK! This is what girls should look like when they are getting gang banged! Not that overly styled crap we always get with the "professional" scenes.
Nata Paradise OTS516.jpg

It's really difficult keeping myself from buying this scene, but I will not pay that price for a 1 on 1.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Wed Jul 29, 2020 1:32 am

The only certain thing is that the fact that she can't move from Russia (like for many girls with a good potential) will be a big limit, for her, for fans, whether she will only work through Julmodels, or also on LP.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Wed Jul 29, 2020 2:14 am

Flights are actually resumed to Prague on daily basis from Moscow SVO August 1st and Russians can enter Czech Rep. with Schengen visa and negative Covid test as far as official info goes.

Looks like last call for Nikolas vs. JM or whoever is able to take her under its wings and provide her with real porn work options. Still no import date on JM so far, thus Nikolas could actually win if his claim is true. All now depends on logistics, though, and also whether GIO has a shooting slot free for her really, and Nata has relevant passport and visa ofc!
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Postby qazxsw8180 » Wed Jul 29, 2020 8:22 pm

dap-addict wrote:Its not as easy, but almost all agencies use for work sample pics.
That Nik vs. JM case is fishy a bit since JM has a short video on her model page with her telling how happy she was to work for them. She's still using her full old name, not Stefany Kyler. She speaks excellent english btw.

Nata Paradise 7-20.png

She had been an English teacher before she started doing porn. That is why her English is great. Probably teachers don't make as much money as porn actresses.)))
It would be almost a tragedy if she will be only shoot for boring studios, such Blacked and Vixen.

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:06 pm

qazxsw8180 wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Its not as easy, but almost all agencies use for work sample pics.
That Nik vs. JM case is fishy a bit since JM has a short video on her model page with her telling how happy she was to work for them. She's still using her full old name, not Stefany Kyler. She speaks excellent english btw.

Nata Paradise 7-20.png

She had been an English teacher before she started doing porn. That is why her English is great. Probably teachers don't make as much money as porn actresses.)))
It would be almost a tragedy if she will be only shoot for boring studios, such Blacked and Vixen.

It's up to her, if she wanna have a proper career or not... (if she will be exclusive to JM she will work less. Is objective.)
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Re: Nata Paradise

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BlueShadow wrote:
qazxsw8180 wrote:
dap-addict wrote:Its not as easy, but almost all agencies use for work sample pics.
That Nik vs. JM case is fishy a bit since JM has a short video on her model page with her telling how happy she was to work for them. She's still using her full old name, not Stefany Kyler. She speaks excellent english btw.

Nata Paradise 7-20.png

She had been an English teacher before she started doing porn. That is why her English is great. Probably teachers don't make as much money as porn actresses.)))
It would be almost a tragedy if she will be only shoot for boring studios, such Blacked and Vixen.

It's up to her, if she wanna have a proper career or not... (if she will be exclusive to JM she will work less. Is objective.)

It is also up to GG and Gonzo to make an offer that can't be ignored. Money talks, especially in a business such as this. If what dap-addict says is true, and Nata can be booked for anything, JM can't really ignore good enough offers. Don't make this more complicated than it need to be. It's must be in everybody's best interest to make lots of money on this exceptional model. She has had all of her scenes among the best-sellers for each month they were released, and we know a GG or Gonzo scene will sell even better than GL with the same model. Work in Prague is worth A LOT of money for everyone here and they must all be aware of it. Nothing else makes sense, business wise. There need to be oceans of bad blood for this not to happen.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby BlueShadow » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:46 pm

Absolutely right...in a normal world. But I have seen many things in the porn business that go beyond logic :)
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Postby Iddaoeeok » Wed Jul 29, 2020 9:50 pm

An 18 year old English teacher? Either she's not 18 or she's not an English teacher. ;)

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Postby MaxPayne212 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:57 am

Iddaoeeok wrote:An 18 year old English teacher? Either she's not 18 or she's not an English teacher. ;)

Well...i dont how it is where you live, but in some places you can start studying at a young age and get your diploma when you turn 18.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby grey00owl » Thu Jul 30, 2020 6:56 am

DPraved wrote:
BlueShadow wrote:It's up to her, if she wanna have a proper career or not... (if she will be exclusive to JM she will work less. Is objective.)

It is also up to GG and Gonzo to make an offer that can't be ignored. Money talks, especially in a business such as this. If what dap-addict says is true, and Nata can be booked for anything, JM can't really ignore good enough offers. Don't make this more complicated than it need to be. It's must be in everybody's best interest to make lots of money on this exceptional model. She has had all of her scenes among the best-sellers for each month they were released, and we know a GG or Gonzo scene will sell even better than GL with the same model. Work in Prague is worth A LOT of money for everyone here and they must all be aware of it. Nothing else makes sense, business wise. There need to be oceans of bad blood for this not to happen.

Totally reasonable, coherent argumentation. Make her the right offer and she (they) won't deny.

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby dap-addict » Thu Jul 30, 2020 7:18 am

DPraved wrote:Don't make this more complicated than it need to be. It's must be in everybody's best interest to make lots of money on this exceptional model. She has had all of her scenes among the best-sellers for each month they were released, and we know a GG or Gonzo scene will sell even better than GL with the same model. Work in Prague is worth A LOT of money for everyone here and they must all be aware of it. Nothing else makes sense, business wise.

Yep, coherent and makes sense.
Its just a question of fairness and loyalty inside Russian talent management as well, but I do understand it doenst concern the end users of Nata Paradise's talent. For girls it just has to be effective and easily to count on in order to plan their travel schedules and income. For producers on the other side its important to know who has real access to the girls or just pretends to have. Anyway, there's a lot of new rising Russian rookies to be managed and market will verify it all. I just hope girls and users loose out the least possible!
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby Caveman39 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 11:48 am

MaxPayne212 wrote:
Iddaoeeok wrote:An 18 year old English teacher? Either she's not 18 or she's not an English teacher. ;)

Well...i dont how it is where you live, but in some places you can start studying at a young age and get your diploma when you turn 18.

Where do you live? LOL. In some corrupt Eastern European country where you can buy a bachelor's/master's degree? :p ;)
Road to higher education in civilized countries:
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Certainly higher education is needed to obtain a teaching/English degree.
Suffice to say that duolingo/memrise does not count as higher education. ;)
Anyway, I think everyone here would agree that they would glady take her "oral exam" to see how good she really is in certain stuff. :p

P.S. is there already an Insta/Twitter for her?

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby Luccio59 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 12:12 pm

Caveman39 wrote:
MaxPayne212 wrote:
Iddaoeeok wrote:An 18 year old English teacher? Either she's not 18 or she's not an English teacher. ;)

Well...i dont how it is where you live, but in some places you can start studying at a young age and get your diploma when you turn 18.

Where do you live? LOL. In some corrupt Eastern European country where you can buy a bachelor's/master's degree? :p ;)
Road to higher education in civilized countries:
4-12 y/o kindergarten/lower education
13-17/18 y/o high school
17/18-22/23 y/o higher education (college/university).
Certainly higher education is needed to obtain a teaching/English degree.
Suffice to say that duolingo/memrise does not count as higher education. ;)
Anyway, I think everyone here would agree that they would glady take her "oral exam" to see how good she really is in certain stuff. :p

P.S. is there already an Insta/Twitter for her?


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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby avanfurwet » Thu Jul 30, 2020 1:34 pm

Possibly she had a gig as an English tutor. :cool:

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby grey00owl » Thu Jul 30, 2020 2:02 pm

avanfurwet wrote:Possibly she had a gig as an English tutor. :cool:

Yes, quite more probable than a stable English teacher job.
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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby avanfurwet » Thu Jul 30, 2020 3:21 pm

grey00owl wrote:By the way, I miss, avan, your avatar: always found it very cool.

Thank you, I miss it too. But it's time for me to join the anonymous rank and file.

As to Nata, I hope things work out for her and the rival agencies. And I hope we get to see much more of her in future, with whatever producers she chooses to work for.

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Re: Nata Paradise

Postby MaxPayne212 » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:08 pm

Caveman39 wrote:Where do you live? LOL. In some corrupt Eastern European country where you can buy a bachelor's/master's degree? :p ;)

Lol nope. Not even close.

Caveman39 wrote:Road to higher education in civilized countries:
4-12 y/o kindergarten/lower education
13-17/18 y/o high school
17/18-22/23 y/o higher education (college/university).
Certainly higher education is needed to obtain a teaching/English degree.
Suffice to say that duolingo/memrise does not count as higher education. ;)

I know i know. What i tried to say (and should have clarified) is that there are some schools that specialized in the languange. Private schools with double schoolday, during the morning is regular class, and during the afternoon is heavily focused on english/italian/or whatever the school is. This way youre learning the languange since 6 years old until you finish high school. And you leave with oyur diploma ready to get your degree. With that diploma you can teach to lower levels, not in schools, but you can present yourself as an english teacher, like a private tutor or something like that. But like i said, yes, to teach on schools youll need to get the degree at the university.

Dont know if that clarifies or not what im trying to say, i didnt went to one of those schools i mentioned xD
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Postby g1ndude » Thu Jul 30, 2020 10:12 pm

BlueShadow wrote:Absolutely right...in a normal world. But I have seen many things in the porn business that go beyond logic :)

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Postby BlueShadow » Fri Jul 31, 2020 10:56 am

g1ndude wrote:
BlueShadow wrote:Absolutely right...in a normal world. But I have seen many things in the porn business that go beyond logic :)

The fucking porn whisperer over here. Okay Cleo, put the tarot cards down

You can't read maybe. I already said that I don't have crystal ball, and not even tarot cards. Move forward.
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