Consolidated critics thread

[xxx]

3) Sudden change of old 90-day-membership plan incl. "free" tickets able to buy scenes older than 2y not only by gonzo but also GIO and IV.

Are you talking about an old change or something recent? Nothing was changed recently as far as I know. Your post isn't clear at all.

[xxx]

XXX, I will be totally frank with you, whenever any of the members who write in the forum tries to write a post in which they think that some studio or even forum can improve its quality, you hide behind the phrase " There are millions of things to do before that, it is not a priority" so why should current members believe that any of their proposals are going to come true in this thread? There is no reason for it, it could put hundreds of things to improve or that should be done better but, to be honest, you have demonstrated with every time you have tried to get members to give ideas, to turn their back on everything. It is hard but it is the reality, I am not insulting you or anything like that, it is what each member of the forum have seen all this time.

That's a very fallacious statement. I only say we have a lot of things to do before certain website/feature/code-related updates. It has absolutely nothing to do with content production.

Even so, I am going to write something that I think could be an improvement for the web and they have been asking for a while: an upcoming section of scenes that are going to be released, we do not want 10 or 15 scenes, but if at least 5 scenes from each studio of the next 5 days, nothing more. Is it to much for a web like LP? Every web has it and it could give to LP a boost, ppl are asking for it from loooooooooooooooooong time, please, make it a reality.

We have a cool update planned, in regards to upcoming scenes, but... We have other things to finish before that.

[dap-addict]

3) Sudden change of old 90-day-membership plan incl. "free" tickets able to buy scenes older than 2y not only by gonzo but also GIO and IV.

Are you talking about an old change or something recent? Nothing was changed recently as far as I know. Your post isn't clear at all.

I am talking about this, and yes, there is a change as of April 23rd ff:

Looks like GIO632 was the last scene available for old free ticket subscribers.
Most MILF I didnt buy than two years ago to save tkts for my DAP-ey Russian teen & twen cuties.

Scenes released later then April 22nd 2018 are not available for free tkts anymore:
[url]https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=25825[/url

Looks like GIO632 was the last scene available for old free ticket subscribers.
Most MILF I didnt buy than two years ago to save tkts for my DAP-ey Russian teen & twen cuties.

Scenes released later then April 22nd 2018 are not available for free tkts anymore:
https://www.legalporno.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=101&t=25825

Also I was talking about:
2) PM function
1) Communication

[xxx]

Have you seen some of these very long BTS with a side camera during the entire scene?

I'm not sure what your comment relates to. The interaction between the performers section of my feedback maybe? But no, I've never watched a BTS section. Something I was going to mention but didn't as I thought my feedback was long enough anyway is that in general I think the scenes are too long. I'm actually a fan of editing in porn and would much rather you left out the long sections of repositioning in particular. With a 50 minute scene it's almost certain that I'll be hitting the fast-forward button a fair bit. I would much rather see a 30 minute scene of continuous explosive action than a 50 minute scene with the same stuff but 20 minutes of repositioning/awkwardness etc. My hunch is that you're afraid of putting out scenes of less than 50 minutes lest it looks like poor value but I could be wrong. But for me a good edit in itself can be hot. If you have a girl in doggy DP, say, and it then cuts to rc DP there's something hot about that (as long as the cut isn't made too quickly, of course, ie the viewer has had a good fill of the doggy DP). It's the camera working at the same speed as your brain's fantasising (or something). For example, if you were just looking at a still photo of a girl and imagining her in various sex positions you wouldn't include her moving into the different positions in your fantasy, would you? People probably think that in the old days the porn directors used cuts because of the limits of VHS/DVD length or whatever. That might be true but I think they also understood the benefits of pace to maintaining the heat of a scene, something LP has never seemed to grasp. Less is often more with porn I think.

So to that end, no I don't have any interest in BTS sections. I think in many ways they could actually spoil the mystique - I don't really want to see the performers interacting in a "on the porn shoot" way if you know what I mean. I can see why some people might like that and they are perfectly valid but my point is really the opposite of that, ie of putting a little more mystique and natural interaction into the scenes themselves to increase the heat levels and make the scenes look a little more spontaneous.

Because you would see that the aggression you seem to see is just an illusion, just a show. The sets are in reality very relaxed. Even some anti-porn feminists who visited the studio wrote that about us.

[TheVulture]

Because you would see that the aggression you seem to see is just an illusion, just a show. The sets are in reality very relaxed. Even some anti-porn feminists who visited the studio wrote that about us.

Well it's definitely not an illusion that I see Angelo Godshack wrapping his bicep around the girl's neck in every single scene he's in, is it? Or that pretty much every scene has a lot of throat-grabbing in it. I'm not approaching this from a "white knight" kind of angle as I get that a lot of girls are into that stuff and probably the majority that aren't don't too much mind it. And I'm not suggesting that it isn't done in a "relaxed" way. My point is purely a visual one, namely that it turns me off as I like to see strong women in porn and I don't understand why it is a default thing (ie not just in manhandle scenes).

For sure, it is a common meme in porn these days and not everyone will agree with me that it should be toned down. But saying it is "just an illusion, just a show" isn't going to stop me being turned off by it. I see it and know what it is and generally have to fast forward through it. My point is that if you left that stuff out of your non-manhandle scenes they would be 15%-20% hotter as the girls would sizzle a lot more. Ultimately it boils down to how your viewers like their porn girls - strong and in control or more a kind of sexual prey at the mercy of dominant men. Both are valid porn styles but I'm in the former camp and whatever its other virtues, I am thus pretty much not catered for by LP. I have to accept some lessening of "hot" with my "hard", which I feel is a shame as I don't see why LP scenes cannot more frequently be both.

[abcad90210]

Yes it’s all fake aggression, most people inc girls like it. Another thing my pornbox is only 1TB can we make it bigger. 2. Have a direct torrent/download entire library. ATM I have to hire someone to download my 1000+ vids as I don’t have the time. PM gone? Can’t use free tickets.

Too many 1-1 scenes. I would pay max 1 tkt for these which includes all OTS

[TheVulture]

Yes it’s all fake aggression, most people inc girls like it.

If it's all fake then why have it in there? I don't like fake things.

But it isn't really "fake" is it? What you mean, I think, is that it is consensual, which I haven't challenged.

Also isn't it a bit presumptuous to speak on behalf of other people (and especially those of the opposite sex)? You seem to like it and that's fine but you should really just leave it at that. I don't like it. Again that's just me. I'm not going to pretend to know what others want to see and in the case of the girls have done to them on set. That's for them to say.

[Moxoxo]

I think a Hyde Park section for PW fans would be good. Less bullshit on general discussion and model threads. And topics like what music and other things could just be there.

[pastaga]

Improvements I'd like to suggest :
- better videos.
- free prices
- comeback of PMs on the forum

Thanks.


Otherwise I'd like to have a function ality to hide studios on the main pornbox page. Or at least something to make the videos from main LP studios stand out aside the porn world and third party stuff.

Would really love to see more scenes with 2 or 3 girls interacting together. This was more frequent like 4-5 years ago.
New directors and make talents would also make things less boring. Actually it looks like some don't even enjoy or just care. It really turned like a factory producing videos with no soul. But the new girls seem to have motivation and personalities. Why not the boys ?
Also not against slowing down the frequency of releases for a quality improvements.
I'm clearly not against putting more tokens for a scene if they look better. But won't be able to do that daily...

[Pineapples Studio]

I don't like fake things.

Almost everything about porn is "fake", because it's a performance. The entire scenario is a contrivance for the sake of the camera and everything about production is geared toward enhancing your experience as the viewer.

[Jocke]

I love BTS and the changing of positions make it more real. We have different tastes. The good thing is that you don't have to look at the BTS if don't want to but it could be there for those of us who do.

[Jocke]

Yes I got that this thread would be more about the technical and business setup. However after xxx commenting on cream scenes etc I thought it worthwhile to try to influence content.

Tech:
Streaming and downloading works well. A few years ago downloading was necessary. I am happy that the streaming makes downloading obsolete.

I don't know if it is my computer or the player but quite often when I click to move to other section the player stops and need a restart.

The lighting could be better. Just look at Natalie Flowers on PH! If an amateur gets that photo quality, what level should a studio be at?

https://www.[spam].com/view_video.php?viewkey=ph5de3c19ee4df6

[Jocke]

Business:
Why not sell new scenes with a coupon to buy an old scene (2 years?) at a rebate?
That would make new scenes more valuable while increasing sales also of old scenes.

[pastaga]

Business:
Why not sell new scenes with a coupon to buy an old scene (2 years?) at a rebate?
That would make new scenes more valuable while increasing sales also of old scenes.

That's what existed before with the free ticket system. You bought a bundle of tickets for actual scenes and another kind of tickets for 2y+ scenes. Sadly they removed the free tickets while keeping the prices, which is basically a price increase.

A more spler system would ba a price discount for old scenes like -30% to -50%. And something should happen on pornbox main page to make it pop and give this old scene more visibility if you haven't bought it already.
Problem could be that some old scenes could actually be more successful than new ones...

[pastaga]

*simpler *be
Forgot to mention in thesuggestions that the forum needs a working post edition functionality. With some kind of original post save, if that's what you fear...

[pastaga]

More locations and lighting variations would of course be a nice addition as well.

Look atRocco productions : he has a big villa with different rooms, a swimming pool, a garden... And the lighting is always good.
That's more complicated when you shoot from a building downtown but still, there has been attempts to make things change. I remember some shots with outside intro or a studio with an inside pool. It was like 2-3 years ago...

[TheVulture]

Almost everything about porn is "fake", because it's a performance. The entire scenario is a contrivance for the sake of the camera and everything about production is geared toward enhancing your experience as the viewer.

*sigh*

I did fear that this would happen.

Look, I don't want this to turn into a forensic discussion about every single aspect of porn, its whole ethos, how it is made, who it serves etc. I honestly don't see the point of your comment or how it progresses any kind of interesting discussion. Porn is a performance you say. The participants haven't just met and aren't having spontaneous sex without realising they're being filmed. You know, I get it, in the same way I get that when I'm watching George Clooney playing a character in a film it is also "just" a performance. But it doesn't follow from that that you can just throw anything into a porn scene and it doesn't matter. "Hey, chill out, it's just a performance". The point is the style and direction of the porn clip and what it is trying to portray and achieve. With regard the latter, to turn its audience on hopefully, so specifically how is it trying to do that? Using what mood and devices? What roles? What positions? What context? What connection between the perfomers? etc. In the same way as you hopefully suspend your disbelief when watching Clooney acting in a role (ie you move the knowledge that he isn't actually the character in question down into your subconscious, that is assuming he is convincing in playing the role) the enjoyment of a porn scene also requires the viewer to submerge him/herself into the action and essentially "forget" - at least momentarily - that he/she is watching porn. Would you agree with that? If not that would be interesting and I would like to know why.

Now in my case I can't "abandon" myself in that way when there are things on the screen that (a) I don't like, and (b) remind me that I'm watching porn. And in terms of the male aggression this qualifies as both. Wouldn't you agree that throat-grabbing, arm-twisting etc. are not things that are generally commonplace in "normal" sex? Thus when I see them I'm getting a very clear message: "This is porn, I'm a porn guy doing porn things to this girl". That is subjective to some degree....some of you might never have had sex without those things and thus it is entirely normal sex practice for you. That is fine. Please don't waste my time by telling me that, just let me reiterate that I don't like it. It doesn't turn me on. Is that OK?

Now....obviously none of that is a problem if someone likes those things. They may overlook the "porn signpost" angle, maybe it isn't a factor with them. That's for them. But really all you're doing here is saying "What's the problem? It's just porn". You have thus entirely missed the point. It's like you have no preference of style/ethos/presentation or even concept that there are different types of porn. "It's just porn - duh!" That is fine. But I am not like that. I am quite discerning (as I think are most porn fans, albeit in different ways).

I'm always happy to get into discussions with people about the more subtle aspects of porn. I am - dare I say - something of a cerebral porn viewer (probably more than most) and the psychology of what is happening on screen is something that both interests me and I think I am quite sensitive to (ie if there is some kind of tension between performers I think I perhaps sense it more than some and it damages my enjoyment more than theirs, although that is of course a little speculative on my part and I try to call my experience just as I see it). But if it's just going to turn into a very trite and basic "Oh you're overreacting - it's just porn and nothing you're seeing is real" then that doesn't interest me and there really isn't much point to it.

LP is what it is at the end of the day. I have to accept a lot of male aggression and ego. That's fine. I choose to take it or leave it. But please don't patronise me that I'm overreacting, seeing something that isn't there or even don't understand the concept of porn and what it sets out to portray (!) That is patently absurd and not a little arrogant. You tell me what you like, I will do likewise and how about we see where that takes us? That would seem to me to be the purpose of this thread rather than belittling or undermining someone's criticisms based on a different personal experience. Does that sound OK to you?

[lovecraft]

I guess a general criticism is the content gets very formulaic. Some series you can literally skip to the same minutes in a new video and it’s exactly the same acts. This is OK to a point but it gets really old after a while. There should more variety, even if an overall formula is successful.

[misangrenegra2]

I will try give some critics.
1 - Communication . Obviously we are customers/users and we dont have to know business decisions but when you make some changes in the politics in the forum or purchases system would be nice inform the forum users with antelation.

Of course some important things have been informed properly, like TKT free system, pornbox, etc.. but others like the PM system.. not at all

2 - New Tutorial/FAQ

Is quite often read a lot of threads in the support area about cancel memberships, how works the purchase system, how add/delete bank cards, etc.

I think is very important give to the costumer a good information and explanation about what is buying and how works, i did read some times how some people get memberships or other things and dont know what is buying (Ok, he's fault in part and LP not offer a good info about their products). This will help to have a good perception to the current costumers and with the next ones.

I say this because is very frequent and is very necessary.

3 - Dry/Wet scenes

This is about how works the system with these 2 versions.

If you buy the wet version, automatically you got both versions (wet version is more expensive).

If you buy the dry version because you dont like piss stuff is or by error (Personally 2 times i did the mistake) and you want get the Wet version you must pay the whole wet scene when would be more logical pay the difference.

eg: 4'5 TKT Dry version, 5'5 TKT wet version.

If somebody get firts (purchase) the dry version but later wants the wet version (error choicing the scene or for give a try to the wet version), for that user the wet version should cost

5'5-4'5 = 1 TKT


4 - PornBox

I dont going to explain a lot this point, somes users did it.

A way to split in the store, with filters or browse tab, the form to watch the studios like dpconsineur said:

(I copied the same list of DPconsineur)
- Premium content (Gonzo, Giorgio Grandi, Giorgio Lab, Interracial Vision, etc)
- Model Original content (outside the studio, etc)
- Bonus content (Mr. Anal, Private, Porn World, etc)


5 - Moderation/Support

Sometimes i feel the lack of this in the forum.

The support area, in the weekends, is not attended (Is my perception, i dont usually read moderators in weekend), i say this because this bussiness is working 24/7 and the problems dont have specifics days to appear.

About moderation in the forum, sometimes there are some bad words or some obsession with some director (i think you know about who i'm talking).

6 - Old scenes (2 years or more)
With the Free TICKET system removed, i don't know how the customers without this system could decided to try to get old scenes.

The price is the same, i know these scenes had a cost and the opportunity exist for that people with the free TKT system, i dont have any idea about bussines market proposals of promote the sells of the old scenes.

Maybe and surely LP is not focused on how sell this stuff thinking only in the current and new stuff, very normal but i know, reading some people, that exist some users that want "a way" to buy it

7 - Interaction with the costumers

How can the users help with suggestions?

The suggestion scene area, in my opinion, is a ghost area on no ones knows nothing. I think i never watched any suggestion shooted.

Some one here in this post, said something about the directors interacting with official polls or similiars.

i think would be cool if the directors (if of course they want and have time to do it) offer the opportunity to help with scripts, outfits or similiars.

For example:

A realistic eg: Gio will shoot X scene with X girl and he have in mind 3 outfits to use, woud be cool if he make a poll with the 3 outfits and the users can choice one, the winner will be used.

I choice an realistic/simple example for something that could be an example to start with this kind of things.


8 - Forum improvements

The style is old, not particular a cool thing for someone. A new style can help to get more participation of new users

- Edit/Delete threads and post: How can be possible this?

- Upload photo system: Maybe a simple function to upload various pics at time with a maxim for post (10 for example)

- A quote system.

No ones knows if has been quoted in a thread, surely that people will check the thread but could be nice and go directly to the quote.


For now, thats all.

[IndyPleco]

I like that deleting posts isn't possible, it keeps people accountable. A 1 minute grace period to edit a post would be nice for stylistic errors though.

[stevemcgee3]

I can't say there is anything that needs to be improved, I like the site the way it is now. Wish I could be more help xxx but as long as I get to see some big gapes and creampies I am happy. Unlike some of these users I don't want or expect every scene catered to my tastes. Variety is good!

[Sweep11]

I actually like to watch the performers changing positions!
There’s something quite raw about it. The girl positioning herself and guiding the cock home. Kinda intimate in a way the standard positions aren’t.
I also LOVE to see the girls crawling around bare assed.

Just goes to show we all have different tastes and content wise its impossible to please everyone in every scene.

My constructive criticisms:
- advance notification of changes would be appreciated. Maybe a standard section for enhancements?
- show the video quality of the scene before purchase - referring to older scenes obviously
- more BTS please - not the alternate camera on the whole shoot but after shoot action and chat. While still cum covered ideally
- random scene button
- scene view count
- skip to a page. I have 100’s to browse, don’t always want to search for a specific scene
- light moderation of the forum is great. But I’m always amazed how many posters admit to not buying anything!
Why should anyone care what they have to say? Sure, let them contribute if you like but have a colour system like on Chaturbate. Then we can all ignore the ‘greys’

Long live LP / AV !

[magizi877]

I haven't read the rest yet but this is a perfect illustration of my point :

You get the ILLUSION that plenty of people are cancelling for whatever reason when in reality we have more members than ever and always growing. That's what a few bad posts can do to your image. This is exactly why I don't want to see those requests there.

It doesn't mean that their reason for leaving wasn't right but you are still completely wrong when you imagine people are leaving in droves. The more we grow the more "cancel my membership" there will/would be.

This is not what I meant.

What I was trying to say is that the forum is full of clues of what areas need improvement.

IF PEOPLE CAN'T FIND ON THEIR HOW TO CANCEL THEIR MEMBERSHIP,

YOU NEED TO MAKE IT EASIER AND MORE OBVIOUS,

SO THEY DON'T NEED TO MAKE A PUBLIC REQUEST FOR EVERYONE TO SEE.

[JayJams]

New scene section[/color] - it was once informative but as soon as all old scenes previously released by other studio (like Mr, Anal, Private, Assablanca) started to appear as new scene it added a lot of clutter to the custom LP premium content feel members like me are looking for and willing to pay a premium price for. To make matters worse also models self produced content are now added in more clutter and confusion to an already too busy page. I believe that content should be separated out within tabs of the new content page with titles something like this:

• Premium content (Gonzo, Giorgio Grandi, Giorgio Lab, Interracial Vision, etc)
• Model Original content (outside the studio, etc)
• Bonus content (Mr. Anal, Private, Porn World, etc)

This x1,000,000. Can't stand the main Store "new scenes" page where old scenes are being labeled as "NEW". They are not new, but simply new to the site, which are two very different things. Not that I'm saying I (as well as others), wouldn't buy an older scene perhaps never seen before, but labeling it new is bull, as well as severely clutters up what was once an actual NEW RELEASE page.

[grey00owl]

I like that deleting posts isn't possible, it keeps people accountable. A 1 minute grace period to edit a post would be nice for stylistic errors though.

Agree. It (can) prevents people to write inconsiderate things. EDIT function has to be reactivated.

[dap-addict]

Yes I got that this thread would be more about the technical and business setup. However after xxx commenting on cream scenes etc I thought it worthwhile to try to influence content.

Right, because it looked like xxx for once listens and answers.
But content we try to influence in all other threads, too.
More important would be first to influence how loyal and long standing customers and forum contributors are treated here.
Because that the base, but again we have a mess here and soon users will start to suggest xxx which girls to book instead of asking why nobody except Giorgio Grandi ever listens and answers, why they implant sudden changes without communication, why PM is gone etc.

[Jocke]

Business:
Why not sell new scenes with a coupon to buy an old scene (2 years?) at a rebate?
That would make new scenes more valuable while increasing sales also of old scenes.

That's what existed before with the free ticket system. You bought a bundle of tickets for actual scenes and another kind of tickets for 2y+ scenes. Sadly they removed the free tickets while keeping the prices, which is basically a price increase.

A more spler system would ba a price discount for old scenes like -30% to -50%. And something should happen on pornbox main page to make it pop and give this old scene more visibility if you haven't bought it already.
Problem could be that some old scenes could actually be more successful than new ones...

You just confirmed that my idea was good. You don't want to just rebate old scenes as they will be competing with new ones but if for every new scene you buy (only when you have purchased an actual scene) you get a "coupon" 30% rebate on an old scene to buy with the same type of tickets (not free tickets). This means that you will spend more but also get more i.e. win-win!

[grey00owl]

I will try give some critics.
1 - Communication . Obviously we are customers/users and we dont have to know business decisions but when you make some changes in the politics in the forum or purchases system would be nice inform the forum users with antelation.

Of course some important things have been informed properly, like TKT free system, pornbox, etc.. but others like the PM system.. not at all

2 - New Tutorial/FAQ

Is quite often read a lot of threads in the support area about cancel memberships, how works the purchase system, how add/delete bank cards, etc.

I think is very important give to the costumer a good information and explanation about what is buying and how works, i did read some times how some people get memberships or other things and dont know what is buying (Ok, he's fault in part and LP not offer a good info about their products). This will help to have a good perception to the current costumers and with the next ones.

I say this because is very frequent and is very necessary.

3 - Dry/Wet scenes

This is about how works the system with these 2 versions.

If you buy the wet version, automatically you got both versions (wet version is more expensive).

If you buy the dry version because you dont like piss stuff is or by error (Personally 2 times i did the mistake) and you want get the Wet version you must pay the whole wet scene when would be more logical pay the difference.

eg: 4'5 TKT Dry version, 5'5 TKT wet version.

If somebody get firts (purchase) the dry version but later wants the wet version (error choicing the scene or for give a try to the wet version), for that user the wet version should cost

5'5-4'5 = 1 TKT

4 - PornBox

I dont going to explain a lot this point, somes users did it.

A way to split in the store, with filters or browse tab, the form to watch the studios like dpconsineur said:

(I copied the same list of DPconsineur)
- Premium content (Gonzo, Giorgio Grandi, Giorgio Lab, Interracial Vision, etc)
- Model Original content (outside the studio, etc)
- Bonus content (Mr. Anal, Private, Porn World, etc)

5 - Moderation/Support

Sometimes i feel the lack of this in the forum.

The support area, in the weekends, is not attended (Is my perception, i dont usually read moderators in weekend), i say this because this bussiness is working 24/7 and the problems dont have specifics days to appear.

About moderation in the forum, sometimes there are some bad words or some obsession with some director (i think you know about who i'm talking).

6 - Old scenes (2 years or more)
With the Free TICKET system removed, i don't know how the customers without this system could decided to try to get old scenes.

7 - Interaction with the costumers

How can the users help with suggestions?

The suggestion scene area, in my opinion, is a ghost area on no ones knows nothing. I think i never watched any suggestion shooted.

8 - Forum improvements

- Edit/Delete threads and post: How can be possible this?

Good exposition of the main problems. Agree about everything. Just having doubts about what you mean by "..but others like the PM system..not at all" in the Communication section: do you mean that this needs no explanation about its use, or that it's right having it removed? I think that it's a nice and useful feature we need to have reactivated. In general communication is is very deficient.

I also bought a couple of times "dry" scenes by mistake instead of the"wet" ones: it would be fair to have to pay just the difference.

The PornBox's page set-up is indeed pretty confusing: dpconnoisseur1's suggestion seems very reasonable and useful.

Interaction: so far as deficient as communication. No clues whether the "SUGGEST" section has ever produced any results on the production.

About EDIT/DELETE functions: I find right to have disactivated the "DELETE" one, would instead restore the "EDIT" one, with a time limit.

Frankly not having high expectations to see any results following our criticism and suggestion, but would be more than happy to be wrong.

[misangrenegra2]

Good exposition of the main problems. Agree about everything. Just having doubts about what you mean by "..but others like the PM system..not at all" in the Communication section: do you mean that this needs no explanation about its use, or that it's right having it removed? I think that it's a nice and useful feature we need to have reactivated. In general communication is is very deficient.

I also bought a couple of times "dry" scenes by mistake instead of the"wet" ones: it would be fair to have to pay just the difference.

The PornBox's page set-up is indeed pretty confusing: dpconnoisseur1's suggestion seems very reasonable and useful.

Interaction: so far as deficient as communication. No clues whether the "SUGGEST" section has ever produced any results on the production.

About EDIT/DELETE functions: I find right to have disactivated the "DELETE" one, would instead restore the "EDIT" one, with a time limit.

Frankly not having high expectations to see any results following our criticism and suggestion, but would be more than happy to be wrong.

About Communication: Maybe i didnt explain this well, i tried to say that there are some changes that were communicated properly like the removing of TKT system but there wasnt an explation for removing the PM system (wrong way in my opinion), simply the system gone with 0 arguments for the users.

Frankly the PM system is necessary mainly to report personal issues with the admins, i dont think is necessary open personal issues in the support forum when you could send a PM to some admin. The support forum should be for "general issues"

In fact i opened a thread in the Support forum about this issue.

I dont know if they will take some points of this thread to change something but at least they give us the opportunity to expose some problems.

Others points to improve

9 - Different kind of payments

Is not the first time that some users asking for new and secure ways to pay. There are others ways to skip the classic "add a credit card"

This needs be thinking to offer some global ways (plataforms) for everybody making it more safe.

10 - Scenes with missing tags

This is maybe an optional point but is clear there are a lot of scenes are not tagged properly, especially the old ones.

I reviewed some old scenes and the stars are not tagged (mainly the guys and, in a few cases, some girls). Same thing with the content (DP, DAP, 0% pussy, fart, etc..) are untagged in a great number of them.

[IIdarksoulII]

I will try give some critics.

...


For now, thats all.

I'd vote for all of this, very good feedback.

[tekaneo]

XXX, I will be totally frank with you, whenever any of the members who write in the forum tries to write a post in which they think that some studio or even forum can improve its quality, you hide behind the phrase " There are millions of things to do before that, it is not a priority" so why should current members believe that any of their proposals are going to come true in this thread? There is no reason for it, it could put hundreds of things to improve or that should be done better but, to be honest, you have demonstrated with every time you have tried to get members to give ideas, to turn their back on everything. It is hard but it is the reality, I am not insulting you or anything like that, it is what each member of the forum have seen all this time.

That's a very fallacious statement. I only say we have a lot of things to do before certain website/feature/code-related updates. It has absolutely nothing to do with content production.

Even so, I am going to write something that I think could be an improvement for the web and they have been asking for a while: an upcoming section of scenes that are going to be released, we do not want 10 or 15 scenes, but if at least 5 scenes from each studio of the next 5 days, nothing more. Is it to much for a web like LP? Every web has it and it could give to LP a boost, ppl are asking for it from loooooooooooooooooong time, please, make it a reality.

We have a cool update planned, in regards to upcoming scenes, but... We have other things to finish before that.

Hi XXX
First of all thanks for your answer thats a really cool news for us as customers and i think its a necesary step for this website. I know this is not a priority update for LP but... your words means a lot for some of us knowing this update will be some day.

I want to ask another question if you dont mind: i know sometimes im a really stresfull person when i ask for scenes but... i would like to know whats the status or what happened with some really old Gonzo scenes that weren't released, are them lost?, are them planned to be released ... weren't these scene numbers filmed? Just a simple answer is enough for me and maybe for other users, here it is the list:

SZ515
SZ704
SZ707
SZ716
SZ750
SZ769
SZ790

Again, thanks for your time

[dap-addict]

Hey, let's hear what you think we are doing wrong, what should be changed, adjusted, etc. Fair critics with arguments only please.

1) Communication before you do sth, especially if you take something away. - Argument: Otherwise you alienate loyal customers.

2) Private Message Box: I still dont understand why its suddenly gone, sorry! - Argument: What is wrong with ppl. exchanging private messages? Do you want them to drive out from here and to other porn forums instead? Does that help your business really? - And just to say, yes I got info via PM which dont belong in an open forum. But I never passed them on here, revealed maximum 10% of such info, always thinking carefully what will help your biz and what might harm it. On the other hand I go 100s of PM from lost clients, answering many of them, making them buy more scenes sold here, making them support studios and the girls. Other frequent posters sure did the same.

So 24hours passed, but still no answer by xxx.
Instead of facing issues and answering them tactic seems to allow forum talkers to create a mess, some asking about specific scene shootings, others about lack of communication and previous announcements of what is planned to be taken away from us or changed.
3) of my questions btw, why can't we local old 90-day subscription plan users get GIO/IV scenes older than 2y after April 23rd with "free" tkt?
But now please dont answer only question nr. 3!

[xxx]

Hi XXX
First of all thanks for your answer thats a really cool news for us as customers and i think its a necesary step for this website. I know this is not a priority update for LP but... your words means a lot for some of us knowing this update will be some day.

I want to ask another question if you dont mind: i know sometimes im a really stresfull person when i ask for scenes but... i would like to know whats the status or what happened with some really old Gonzo scenes that weren't released, are them lost?, are them planned to be released ... weren't these scene numbers filmed? Just a simple answer is enough for me and maybe for other users, here it is the list:

SZ515
SZ704
SZ707
SZ716
SZ750
SZ769
SZ790

Again, thanks for your time

I checked the first 2 quickly and they are on the server and at least some of the files are playable. Our guy will look more closely and answer you.

[xxx]

Hey, let's hear what you think we are doing wrong, what should be changed, adjusted, etc. Fair critics with arguments only please.

1) Communication before you do sth, especially if you take something away. - Argument: Otherwise you alienate loyal customers.

2) Private Message Box: I still dont understand why its suddenly gone, sorry! - Argument: What is wrong with ppl. exchanging private messages? Do you want them to drive out from here and to other porn forums instead? Does that help your business really? - And just to say, yes I got info via PM which dont belong in an open forum. But I never passed them on here, revealed maximum 10% of such info, always thinking carefully what will help your biz and what might harm it. On the other hand I go 100s of PM from lost clients, answering many of them, making them buy more scenes sold here, making them support studios and the girls. Other frequent posters sure did the same.

So 24hours passed, but still no answer by xxx.
Instead of facing issues and answering them tactic seems to allow forum talkers to create a mess, some asking about specific scene shootings, others about lack of communication and previous announcements of what is planned to be taken away from us or changed.
3) of my questions btw, why can't we local old 90-day subscription plan users get GIO/IV scenes older than 2y after April 23rd with "free" tkt?
But now please dont answer only question nr. 3!

24 hours and how many seconds?

We will take a look at the membership issue but you should understand that no one works today (long week end in several countries).

Pm's are gone. They were only used by a minuscule minority of our paying users. They could be abused so they were removed.

[xxx]

About Communication: Maybe i didnt explain this well, i tried to say that there are some changes that were communicated properly like the removing of TKT system but there wasnt an explation for removing the PM system (wrong way in my opinion), simply the system gone with 0 arguments for the users.

Frankly the PM system is necessary mainly to report personal issues with the admins, i dont think is necessary open personal issues in the support forum when you could send a PM to some admin. The support forum should be for "general issues"

In fact i opened a thread in the Support forum about this issue.

I dont know if they will take some points of this thread to change something but at least they give us the opportunity to expose some problems.

Others points to improve

9 - Different kind of payments

Is not the first time that some users asking for new and secure ways to pay. There are others ways to skip the classic "add a credit card"

This needs be thinking to offer some global ways (plataforms) for everybody making it more safe.

10 - Scenes with missing tags

This is maybe an optional point but is clear there are a lot of scenes are not tagged properly, especially the old ones.

I reviewed some old scenes and the stars are not tagged (mainly the guys and, in a few cases, some girls). Same thing with the content (DP, DAP, 0% pussy, fart, etc..) are untagged in a great number of them.

PM used to contact admins : you can simply open a ticket by going to the Porn Box options in the corner, then all the way at the bottom : support.

Alternate payment methods : that's something we very much want to do. The old credit card system is rotten. Unfortunately for the adult industry it's hard to get anything else. Cryptos are pretty much the only thing.

Scene tags : we are adding a large amount of new tags + making some related updates, but it will take a lot of time to tag every scene.

[xxx]

*simpler *be
Forgot to mention in thesuggestions that the forum needs a working post edition functionality. With some kind of original post save, if that's what you fear...

I just took a look and the limited edit function is actually on and set to 60 minutes. I don't know why it doesn't work. Devs will take a look but this is also something that goes to the pile of small things to do.

[xxx]

Because you would see that the aggression you seem to see is just an illusion, just a show. The sets are in reality very relaxed. Even some anti-porn feminists who visited the studio wrote that about us.

Well it's definitely not an illusion that I see Angelo Godshack wrapping his bicep around the girl's neck in every single scene he's in, is it? Or that pretty much every scene has a lot of throat-grabbing in it. I'm not approaching this from a "white knight" kind of angle as I get that a lot of girls are into that stuff and probably the majority that aren't don't too much mind it. And I'm not suggesting that it isn't done in a "relaxed" way. My point is purely a visual one, namely that it turns me off as I like to see strong women in porn and I don't understand why it is a default thing (ie not just in manhandle scenes).

For sure, it is a common meme in porn these days and not everyone will agree with me that it should be toned down. But saying it is "just an illusion, just a show" isn't going to stop me being turned off by it. I see it and know what it is and generally have to fast forward through it. My point is that if you left that stuff out of your non-manhandle scenes they would be 15%-20% hotter as the girls would sizzle a lot more. Ultimately it boils down to how your viewers like their porn girls - strong and in control or more a kind of sexual prey at the mercy of dominant men. Both are valid porn styles but I'm in the former camp and whatever its other virtues, I am thus pretty much not catered for by LP. I have to accept some lessening of "hot" with my "hard", which I feel is a shame as I don't see why LP scenes cannot more frequently be both.

Okay. That's a fair point of view. I'm gonna summarize my thoughts on the topic with a few lines :

I think our scenes severely lack in eroticism. Whatever the style of the scene is. You would prefer something that looks like genuine passion and a softer style, I guess, but those would in reality more likely be fabricated than real of course. And for others, this artifice may disappoint them as they could see through it and are instead looking for an authentic experience, which is what gonzo, in some ways is, even if that means a rough "just give it to her" setup. There is a whole range of tastes and opinions out there and no one can claim that they know better. But in general, directors have to learn to capture the sexual tension, when it appears naturally, better, or to make it look more erotic than just filming a check list of specific acts.

[xxx]

Deleted question : why do we have some studios or scenes that some may consider bad?


Every scene on the site will be considered bad by some. Let's not get into that. We want to offer you as many scenes as possible but we also understand that we have to give you the tools to sort them out so that the site doesn't become painful to use.

Sub to the studios/models/genres you like and USE YOUR FEED

[grey00owl]

Because you would see that the aggression you seem to see is just an illusion, just a show. The sets are in reality very relaxed. Even some anti-porn feminists who visited the studio wrote that about us.

Well it's definitely not an illusion that I see Angelo Godshack wrapping his bicep around the girl's neck in every single scene he's in, is it? Or that pretty much every scene has a lot of throat-grabbing in it. I'm not approaching this from a "white knight" kind of angle as I get that a lot of girls are into that stuff and probably the majority that aren't don't too much mind it. And I'm not suggesting that it isn't done in a "relaxed" way. My point is purely a visual one, namely that it turns me off as I like to see strong women in porn and I don't understand why it is a default thing (ie not just in manhandle scenes).

For sure, it is a common meme in porn these days and not everyone will agree with me that it should be toned down. But saying it is "just an illusion, just a show" isn't going to stop me being turned off by it. I see it and know what it is and generally have to fast forward through it. My point is that if you left that stuff out of your non-manhandle scenes they would be 15%-20% hotter as the girls would sizzle a lot more. Ultimately it boils down to how your viewers like their porn girls - strong and in control or more a kind of sexual prey at the mercy of dominant men. Both are valid porn styles but I'm in the former camp and whatever its other virtues, I am thus pretty much not catered for by LP. I have to accept some lessening of "hot" with my "hard", which I feel is a shame as I don't see why LP scenes cannot more frequently be both.

Okay. That's a fair point of view. I'm gonna summarize my thoughts on the topic with a few lines :

I think our scenes severely lack in eroticism. Whatever the style of the scene is. You would prefer something that looks like genuine passion and a softer style, I guess, but those would in reality more likely be fabricated than real of course. And for others, this artifice may disappoint them as they could see through it and are instead looking for an authentic experience, which is what gonzo, in some ways is, even if that means a rough "just give it to her" setup. There is a whole range of tastes and opinions out there and no one can claim that they know better. But in general, directors have to learn to capture the sexual tension, when it appears naturally, better, or to make it look more erotic than just filming a check list of specific acts.

Agree, xxx. I like it rough and if it is, or at least looks, genuine, I find it hot, otherwise it's better to give up.

[MackZatis]

I'm gonna keep it simple for now....

Please make watermarks/logo's smaller, more transparent and further down in to the corner! Please & thank you.
Every other big studio/company that I've seen recently is going that way. Smaller logo's & watermarks, pushed further down and made more transparent. Yet you guys make 'em larger, more opaque and more higher up and towards the center. Seems you don't care about brand recognition with the name change and homogenization of the different companies, so doesn't make sense to me to be so concerned with making the logo so big & constantly visible while watching a video. Unless that's exactly the reason, because of the new name & making sure people know it....

Regardless, I know I've seen other complaints about the size/position of the logo. I'm sure there's a compromise to be made there that will decently satisfy both ownership & customer base alike....

(Ok, maybe not so simple now....)
Also, a PROPER filter system in PB which includes ALL studios/content providers & niche filters as well. The "just use the feed tab" is BS in my mind, as you have to add in models, countries, ect... That way, I'm never going to discover/see any new models to spend money on. Or anything else other than the things I've selected to appear in that tab. Plus that's just a bunch of unnecessary work that does not need to be done at all.. Set your preferences once, & be done. Then if the user wants to venture out from there, click a link & BOOM, EVERYTHING & ALL is displayed...
The "New Scenes" tab is a total cluster-fuck now, & nobody can make a honest & reasonable case to the contrary.
At the VERY least, if your completely unmovable on having ALL studios/products being displayed, you could have each "studio" have it's own section for each day, i.e.

[Monday]
GIO: (Scene) (Scene)
GONZO: (Scene)
IV: (Scene)
PornWorld: (Scene) (Scene) (Scene)
OTS: (Scene) (Scene) (Scene)
Ect Ect.....

[Tuesday]
(REPEAT)

Instead of that random cluttered up cluster-fuck that currently exists....
I understand that (you) XXX wants to have ALL of his products that he's spent a premium on to be displayed to as many eyeballs as possible, which in turn will result in more sales, hopefully..... (Don't totally agree) I saw an 11yr old Kyra Black scene for 7.5tkts!!! Seriously WTF??? (why is that even under "new releases"? New ownership doesn't make content new again, even if a new market is seeing them) The idea that less people will buy such an old scene so might as well get as much as humanly possible from the minority of people that actually do buy it (price gouging), is totally wrong mentality IMO. Or says to me that you overpaid on all these other studios recently purchased. (I of course have no clue on that at all)

(Definitely not simple at all...)
Also this could just be me making shit up in my head, but I get a feeling that because you have "more members than ever" that is used to justify yourself or prove that what you're doing/done is the right course of action. That loyal multiple years long customers aren't necessarily appreciated/listened to (when valid)/considered at all in regards to site/feature/function changes. Almost like site is catered towards/for new(er) members at expense or return members. (I don't have anything specific right now, but I know I've felt this several times prior) Newer members probably won't even notice or care, But how many of these new members will still be here 1-2 years later, let alone 5+? From my experience & research, new(er) members come & go at a ratio of almost 1:1 (if you have numbers that say other wise I'd love to look in to them & be educated further)

That's it I guess, I originally only was posting the part about the logo, but went way past that. But that & the PROPER filtering ability are what I really feel strongly about.... I know & accept that my feeling don't mean a damn thing. And wouldn't expect them to...
XXX I've done my best to make a fair & valid critique without getting to subjective or trying to personally attack/insult or come off as too self serving or pushing my own agenda only. If anything came off that way, it wasn't intended. I'm interested to read your reply to any/all of my points/items (last one aside)

PS. Valid point from others regarding proper "tutorials" I'll simply add; every single forum I've ever visited or currently belong to with exception of here has "STICKY" "RULES" "INFORMATION" threads pinned to the top & closed for replies. And everything you'd ever need to know or lookup regarding said sub-forum & function of website is right there...