Consolidated critics thread

[xxx]

Hey, let's hear what you think we are doing wrong, what should be changed, adjusted, etc. Fair critics with arguments only please.

[YumYum74]

Main issue I have is communication. There isn't any.

Without debating the merits of specific decisions (I'm sure you have specific business reasons for each), please please PLEASE try to at least communicate them beforehand. Giving a reason or not giving a reason for the decision is not even the most important thing (although it would be appreciated). We're almost always kept in the dark, resulting in several threads from angry forum members. Threads that have to be closed/deleted eventually because they go way off topic or get angrier and angrier in tone because the concerns (valid or not) are not addressed.

We are just customers here, but you're not building trust with these out of the blue decisions. I would say announce important decisions, give a short explanation, and close the topic so it won't be overrun with comments and questions, and maybe use this topic for additional questions.

My two cents.

[Pineapples Studio]

LegalPorno is a strong brand. So is DDFNetwork. I don't understand changing the names when you have years of goodwill built up within both of those sites. Pornbox is your all-encompassing "mothership" brand for the entire network, with the unified storefront, but the other brands are established and it doesn't make sense to change them now. Regardless of what the LegalPorno name was originally supposed to entail, it has taken on a life of its own. It just seems like a waste to throw that away. I'll use an analogy, which is probably too culturally specific and won't mean anything to you: LegalPorno is to AnalVids as Coca-Cola is to RC Cola. (RC Cola is a generic shitty cola that nobody likes. It's what you buy if they don't have real Coke.)

Also, I still owe you content.

[xxx]

LegalPorno is a strong brand. So is DDFNetwork. I don't understand changing the names when you have years of goodwill built up within both of those sites. Pornbox is your all-encompassing "mothership" brand for the entire network, with the unified storefront, but the other brands are established and it doesn't make sense to change them now. Regardless of what the LegalPorno name was originally supposed to entail, it has taken on a life of its own. It just seems like a waste to throw that away. I'll use an analogy, which is probably too culturally specific and won't mean anything to you: LegalPorno is to AnalVids as Coca-Cola is to RC Cola. (RC Cola is a generic shitty cola that nobody likes. It's what you buy if they don't have real Coke.)

Also, I still owe you content.

We don't want a brand name for the site. The real brands are the studios. We have suffered a lot from this idiotic mixing up under a single umbrella and you know that very well. But that's not even why we are making the change. We are changing names only because "legalporno" is a stupid name for the current product. It was meant for something else.

[xxx]

Main issue I have is communication. There isn't any.

Without debating the merits of specific decisions (I'm sure you have specific business reasons for each), please please PLEASE try to at least communicate them beforehand. Giving a reason or not giving a reason for the decision is not even the most important thing (although it would be appreciated). We're almost always kept in the dark, resulting in several threads from angry forum members. Threads that have to be closed/deleted eventually because they go way off topic or get angrier and angrier in tone because the concerns (valid or not) are not addressed.

We are just customers here, but you're not building trust with these out of the blue decisions. I would say announce important decisions, give a short explanation, and close the topic so it won't be overrun with comments and questions, and maybe use this topic for additional questions.

My two cents.

Allowing your users to comment and criticize on the general business is something rare. It is rare because it's probably not a good idea. You end up having to either argue, or silence people who do not fully understand the business and whoever is right, it makes the company look bad almost every time.

[Pineapples Studio]

"legalporno" is a stupid name for the current product

Well, you're not wrong about that. Hehe... I have a campfire story I like to tell about that. I once recommended this site to one of my friends several years ago, and he is very into porn like I am, but he was hesitant to check it out. He told me that it sounded subtly sinister, like you have to specify that it's legal in case anyone doubts you. (I understand the intentions of that name, to distinguish the content on this site from pirated material, but other people have expressed similar "shady vibes".)

Fair play on the desire to focus on directors in lieu of a brand for the overall site, but I fear you will just have the same problem with Pornbox eventually. This would be a long-term goal, but maybe you can do more to visually distinguish the landing pages for different directors / studios from each other.

I mean, you've done a lot to weed out the negativity associated with this place in years past. I wouldn't be too afraid of criticism here. It can be risky to allow such freedom of speech on your official forums, but it is also an invaluable tool for market research and (IMO) a big part of what distinguishes this site from other vendors. I don't know if you know this, but you have a reputation for being outspoken. The fact that this extends to your user base as well is only natural.

[Pineapples Studio]

^ As an addendum to that, I would suggest doing away with AnalVids altogether and just putting a Pornbox watermark on your videos going forward. That way, everyone is being funneled to the same place, and you can do away with the confusing branding issues.

[RedBaron]

First
I support YumYum74. Communication could be better, e.g. what will be the next steps in the next weeks? What about Gonzo studio?

Second
Please listen to your longterm customers. E.g. some are asking to get cream back. Why not? Some are asking for cosplay scenes like SZ715 or SZ995. Very rare recently. Why?
E.g. start official polls/surveys.

Third
Three day preview would be nice. Looking forward to your favorite girls is always great.

[IndyPleco]

Main issue I have is communication. There isn't any.

Without debating the merits of specific decisions (I'm sure you have specific business reasons for each), please please PLEASE try to at least communicate them beforehand. Giving a reason or not giving a reason for the decision is not even the most important thing (although it would be appreciated). We're almost always kept in the dark, resulting in several threads from angry forum members. Threads that have to be closed/deleted eventually because they go way off topic or get angrier and angrier in tone because the concerns (valid or not) are not addressed.

We are just customers here, but you're not building trust with these out of the blue decisions. I would say announce important decisions, give a short explanation, and close the topic so it won't be overrun with comments and questions, and maybe use this topic for additional questions.

My two cents.

Allowing your users to comment and criticize on the general business is something rare. It is rare because it's probably not a good idea. You end up having to either argue, or silence people who do not fully understand the business and whoever is right, it makes the company look bad almost every time.

What's the harm in announcing changes though? You don't need to have endless discussions about them, but it's helpful (and common with most services) to get a release note so we know what's up.

[TheVulture]

For me the main problem is the tone of the porn LP produces. I've been here like 5 years and have spent (and continue to spend) a small fortune so clearly you're doing something right (ie very hard porn with very sexy and willing girls) but it would be so much better if a little more joy and positive energy went into the whole thing. The majority of the guys have waaay too much ego and also a sort of default physical aggression outside of any specifically manhandle type scenes. For example, is there a single scene with Angelo Godshack where he doesn't wrap his massive bicep around a girl's throat? I hate that stuff and don't see why it should be a default setting. Have the guys stop being so physically aggressive with their hands (apart from in specific manhandle scenes, of course) and stop them from doing weird stuff with their hand positions, all those constant "look at me!" changes (I'm talking Neeo in particular here) that just scream "ego" and are incredibly distracting for the viewer, whilst also often blocking the view of the girl's body.

I'm sure there will be a stream of angry replies to this labelling me a "snowflake" and saying I should stick to the tame Porn World clips or whatever but that's missing the point. You can still have the same insanely hard sex LP produces without all that physical aggression and ego and I'm pretty sure it would be 15-20% hotter as a result. Often I feel that the girls are a little overpowered rather than being allowed to sizzle and they're not even portrayed as the main act in some ways. They still come across as good performers but it seems less about them than the guys at times, which isn't what I want.

Tied in with this I would like to see a little verbal interaction between the performers at the start of scenes. Again, nothing ego-centric or "Hey we're in porn!" (in other words, very definitely not the kind of stuff Mike Chapman sometimes starts scenes with) but just something designed to make the mood feel a little natural. Joachim and the IV guys had a little spell of trying this and it worked well. Sure it's cheesy and no-one's convinced that the performers actually have just met on the street or whatever but it helps to bring out a little personality from the performers and add a little feeling, which I think enhances the heat of the action when it gets going. Definitely have the guys fully clothed at the start of scenes. The current "girl walks on set of naked guys and we're straight into sex" style is just a little icy and off-the-peg in some ways and can give the scenes a generic, routine kind of feel.

Those are my thoughts anyway. They're pretty much the same ones I've been making for quite some time on-and-off so I'm not sure I hold out a great deal of hope that anything will move in my direction but you never know.

[xxx]

Main issue I have is communication. There isn't any.

Without debating the merits of specific decisions (I'm sure you have specific business reasons for each), please please PLEASE try to at least communicate them beforehand. Giving a reason or not giving a reason for the decision is not even the most important thing (although it would be appreciated). We're almost always kept in the dark, resulting in several threads from angry forum members. Threads that have to be closed/deleted eventually because they go way off topic or get angrier and angrier in tone because the concerns (valid or not) are not addressed.

We are just customers here, but you're not building trust with these out of the blue decisions. I would say announce important decisions, give a short explanation, and close the topic so it won't be overrun with comments and questions, and maybe use this topic for additional questions.

My two cents.

Allowing your users to comment and criticize on the general business is something rare. It is rare because it's probably not a good idea. You end up having to either argue, or silence people who do not fully understand the business and whoever is right, it makes the company look bad almost every time.

What's the harm in announcing changes though? You don't need to have endless discussions about them, but it's helpful (and common with most services) to get a release note so we know what's up.

We do announce cool updates (there 2 are sticky threads right now), and we did announce the introduction of model clips, for example. However you have to understand that there are things we simply prefer not to discuss.

[xxx]

First
I support YumYum74. Communication could be better, e.g. what will be the next steps in the next weeks? What about Gonzo studio?

Second
Please listen to your longterm customers. E.g. some are asking to get cream back. Why not? Some are asking for cosplay scenes like SZ715 or SZ995. Very rare recently. Why?
E.g. start official polls/surveys.

Third
Three day preview would be nice. Looking forward to your favorite girls is always great.

Gonzo : we do what we can. That's a crappy answer but what else could we say?

Cream back? We'd love to add more themes for our scenes which are clearly very repetitive but they have to generate sales. It sucks to like something and not seeing enough support for it. There isn't much we can do about it.

Cosplay is a grey area in legality.

[xxx]

For me the main problem is the tone of the porn LP produces. I've been here like 5 years and have spent (and continue to spend) a small fortune so clearly you're doing something right (ie very hard porn with very sexy and willing girls) but it would be so much better if a little more joy and positive energy went into the whole thing. The majority of the guys have waaay too much ego and also a sort of default physical aggression outside of any specifically manhandle type scenes. For example, is there a single scene with Angelo Godshack where he doesn't wrap his massive bicep around a girl's throat? I hate that stuff and don't see why it should be a default setting. Have the guys stop being so physically aggressive with their hands (apart from in specific manhandle scenes, of course) and stop them from doing weird stuff with their hand positions, all those constant "look at me!" changes (I'm talking Neeo in particular here) that just scream "ego" and are incredibly distracting for the viewer, whilst also often blocking the view of the girl's body.

I'm sure there will be a stream of angry replies to this labelling me a "snowflake" and saying I should stick to the tame Porn World clips or whatever but that's missing the point. You can still have the same insanely hard sex LP produces without all that physical aggression and ego and I'm pretty sure it would be 15-20% hotter as a result. Often I feel that the girls are a little overpowered rather than being allowed to sizzle and they're not even portrayed as the main act in some ways. They still come across as good performers but it seems less about them than the guys at times, which isn't what I want.

Tied in with this I would like to see a little verbal interaction between the performers at the start of scenes. Again, nothing ego-centric or "Hey we're in porn!" (in other words, very definitely not the kind of stuff Mike Chapman sometimes starts scenes with) but just something designed to make the mood feel a little natural. Joachim and the IV guys had a little spell of trying this and it worked well. Sure it's cheesy and no-one's convinced that the performers actually have just met on the street or whatever but it helps to bring out a little personality from the performers and add a little feeling, which I think enhances the heat of the action when it gets going. Definitely have the guys fully clothed at the start of scenes. The current "girl walks on set of naked guys and we're straight into sex" style is just a little icy and off-the-peg in some ways and can give the scenes a generic, routine kind of feel.

Those are my thoughts anyway. They're pretty much the same ones I've been making for quite some time on-and-off so I'm not sure I hold out a great deal of hope that anything will move in my direction but you never know.

Have you seen some of these very long BTS with a side camera during the entire scene?

[xxx]

More on the cream topic. You know I'm cold with Gonzo because I think it's lowering the sales, but other studios are free to do almost anything, and apparently they also chose to avoid them (even though they are easy to make). Perhaps some time in the future, after more growth, we may be able to shoot this stuff again.

[magizi877]

This is a rant.

Valid criticism only makes you look bad, when you don't do anything about it.
Or when you say you will do something about it, but it is all a smoke screen and you never deliver.

For example, when you say you will add a coming soon section, years ago and still nothing.

Or when you can't understand that the reason why so many threads "please cancel my membership"
keep popping up is a direct result of a website design flaw, or lack of interesting content,
content is too disgusting, or too expensive, etc, but no, you think we are some kind of morons.

Acknowledging criticism and doing something about it, gains you respect and builds your reputation.

It is all about your company reputation, because if it means something to us,
then we don't care if you make a mistake or mess us up, as we know it will all be "OK" in the end.

We have your back, in a sense.

I roll my eyes everytime I hear anybody say something like "other companies",
"other departments", "other coworkers" don't do this or don't that or do it "this way".

To me, it is all about what "I" can do.

I can't get behind people who puts the blame on others,
the present situation is all that matters, who's fault is it, it's irrelevant.

The only way I care to pay attention to how others do it,
is when they do it better than me.

Is that crisis moment " what am I doing wrong?"

This board is filled to the brim with ideas and feedback, no matter where you look, it's there.

Back when you opened the suggest a scene feature,
I early point out the short-comings, and you rudely retorted with something like:

"relax it just came out"

It has only gotten worse since IMO.

I haven't reloaded since june last year,
which means that the last time I forked money was around april 2019
because I had the 3 month plan,

I felt disgusted with the amount of pee content everyone was putting out.

and I was like " I just need a break"

But then Giorgio came out with TS content
and as far as I'm aware the reasoning behind it was "everyone else is doing it"

and I was like, in my mind, I didn't actually post it "but... don't you have principles?" lol

To me that was the straw that broke the camel's back,
because for whatever reason, I put new LP trailers and I just don't get excited anymore.

It's like, it's lost its flavour, like seeing them with no sound and black and white.

I already made a thread over at Gonzo and in summary,
it says "let the actors have fun in front of the camera"

Good luck.

[xxx]

This is a rant.

Valid criticism only makes you look bad, when you don't do anything about it.
Or when you say you will do something about it, but it is all a smoke screen and you never deliver.

For example, when you say you will add a coming soon section, years ago and still nothing.

Or when you can't understand that the reason why so many threads "please cancel my membership"
keep popping up is a direct result of a website design flaw, or lack of interesting content,
content is too disgusting, or too expensive, etc, but no, you think we are some kind of morons.

I haven't read the rest yet but this is a perfect illustration of my point :

You get the ILLUSION that plenty of people are cancelling for whatever reason when in reality we have more members than ever and always growing. That's what a few bad posts can do to your image. This is exactly why I don't want to see those requests there.

It doesn't mean that their reason for leaving wasn't right but you are still completely wrong when you imagine people are leaving in droves. The more we grow the more "cancel my membership" there will/would be.

[Pineapples Studio]

But then Giorgio came out with TS content
and as far as I'm aware the reasoning behind it was "everyone else is doing it"

and I was like, in my mind, I didn't actually post it "but... don't you have principles?" lol

I'm gonna chalk up your choice of the term "principles" here to poor word choice, but dude, Giorgio was shooting TS content in like 2004. He's done it on-and-off throughout his career.

[ryanfury]

The success of porn comes down to this: Is the performer enjoying the experience?

If it is fun and exciting for the performers, It is fun and exciting for the viewer. Any Veronica Leal scene proves this.

If it's laborious and painful for the performers the viewers feel that too, Although there is a sick minority who wants to see people in extreme pain.

There should also be something unique in every scene, I think the best way to do that is to ask the performers what turns them on and do that.
For example, Megan Venturi in a recent DAP scene SZ2391
Started slapping her pussy to squirt, and maintained eye contact with Freddy Gong while she was getting fucked. It was some of the hottest moments I've seen here in a while.

And on the other spectrum.

Florane Russell who sells well recently said she no longer wants to perform DAP after getting injured on set, And obviously while her body healed was unable to work.
If that's the case let her get a 10 on 1 scene with DP and swallowing GGG style.
Don't try to force women into acts they aren't comfortable with. It looks bad on camera, instead give them scenes that suits their abilities.

Also you should look into refreshing directors a bit more frequently, most of these directors just seem to be going through the motions now. And make no mistake: The audience can sense it.

To close:

All i'm saying is there should be a bit of "Yin" to the "Yang" of a hardcore sex scene, a touch more interaction and passion between performers will go a long way.
New directors will come with fresh ideas and a drive for success, a drive that established directors may have lost through routine or frankly boredom.

I can say more but i don't want to write a book

[Pineapples Studio]

However, I think that the lightly moderated forum is actually a stroke of genius. As in fucking brilliant. Most businesses would kill for this kind of engagement with the customer.

You just said what I tried to say earlier in the thread, but far more clearly. This is exactly why the LP forums are such a unique and indispensable part of the experience.

And from a "business lingo" stand-point, you definitely want to keep anything that fosters that sort of brand loyalty.

I hope this thread doesn't devolve into another - Why won't you book my favorite model?/film my favorite fetish more?

More feet less DAP no piss kthxbye

[dpconnoisseur1]

1. Coming soon section - is always going to be my major pet peeve with this site. If there was more communication it might not be as bad but with the lack of communication from anyone in LP distributor or studio personnel it is so frustrating. What is the deal with American Anal studios and its long breaks in scene releases ?
2. New scene section - it was once informative but as soon as all old scenes previously released by other studio (like Mr, Anal, Private, Assablanca) started to appear as new scene it added a lot of clutter to the custom LP premium content feel members like me are looking for and willing to pay a premium price for. To make matters worse also models self produced content are now added in more clutter and confusion to an already too busy page. I believe that content should be separated out within tabs of the new content page with titles something like this:

• Premium content (Gonzo, Giorgio Grandi, Giorgio Lab, Interracial Vision, etc)
• Model Original content (outside the studio, etc)
• Bonus content (Mr. Anal, Private, Porn World, etc)

3. Overall LP(AnalVids) feel - the only distributors that release a lot of porn content that I spend money are LP and Brazzers no other porn site comes close. The problem is that with the diverse studios thrown together in this one site brings down the overall quality of the site. LP main studios: Gonzo, Girogio Grandi, Interracial Vision were always know for the brightly lit studio with great film quality but now the quality is all over the place. Here are 3 examples of what seems like a lack of quality control (May 7, 2020 releases):

• GIO1418 (59 minutes, cost 4.2 Tickets) - Superb picture quality in High Definition
• GP1328 (22 minutes, cost 6 Tickets) - looks like it was shot in the 1980's in Standard Definition
• OTS159 (11 minutes, cost 6.5 Tickets) - High Definition and good lighting but short video
• Ticket cost is all over the place with the shortest video costing more than the longest video
• Some video have Picture Galleries and Screenshot other only have screenshots
• Trailer are hit or miss too with some previewing the scene content like what customers expect from a trailer with other just showing a continuous 30 seconds from a random section of the scene

I understand that goal is for LP/AnalVids not to have any branding and finally fulfill its distribution only goal but for a longtime member it just feels cluttered and confusing. Brazzers is built on the same distribution theory but we at least can look at that site and see a consistent quality. This used to be how LP seemed to me but not anymore it feels more like an ManyVids clone.

[dpconnoisseur1]

Cosplay is a grey area in legality.

I understand the concern but it is not like the costumes have to be anything close to the original costume, characters names don't have to be the same and we know the story line is not going to be the same. Gonzo and Girogio Grandi already did a few attempts at it but doesn't commit:

• A ClockWork Gang (GIO254, GIO255 and GIO256)
• Vampires: Resurrection of the Princes (GIO290 and GIO291)
• Francys Belle assfucked by Gonzo mafia (SZ1702)
• Francys Belle takes a flight with Gabgbang airlines SZ1718
• Kira Thorn and The big cock squad (SZ1698 and SZ1704)
• Natasha Teen assfucked by monster cock SZ2154
• Slammed brides (GIO841)

[Hotflash]

LP has the money to pay the best actress, the most beautifull one.

It's a pity that there are no fantasy or not a lot of imagination in the scripts.

3 dicks at the same time in the ass after 5 mins kill the fantasy in my opinion.

Let's build scenarios and pleasure of the girl, i don't think that drinking piss is enjoyable for them as an example...

[greenfunk727]

LP (If I can still call it that) is the best pornsite on the planet for me. Overall, I’m extremely satisfied and I spend money here and hardly anywhere else.

I’m mainly going to stick to technical website criticism rather than scene content criticism because You make what sells and stop making what doesn’t sell (Like Cream)

Galleries – I really like looking at the gallery (Screenshot and gallery) but the way they are currently displayed and accessed I find very annoying. Gallery loading on top of movie/trailer playing. Even worse on a mobile device. Gallery display definitely needs to be improved

4K streaming – I would really like to have the ability to stream 4K. I don’t want to download and store a library of 4K movies because it’s just not practicable. At the moment I’ll keep a collection of my favourite scenes in 4K. Once those scenes slip from my current favourite list I’ll keep as 1080p instead. So, I delete 4K scenes. It’s a pain and it would be much easier for me to stream 4K to the TV.

HDR content – You’ve got to keep up on the latest tech for the best product.

Download speed – I have a fast internet connection but it pains me that sometimes it is so slow to download from pornbox. This applies to all legal content providers if you want to beat the pirates you have to provide a service better and faster than illegal sites (I don’t use pirate sites I’m just making a point)

Tag – For me I find the tags/genres feature almost unusable could be better overall. – But only minor inconvenience

I said I wasn’t going to critique content but I’ll just say one thing! – I want to see models puke up piss and even better if deep throating cock at the same time. I tell you that those scenes will sell. I guarantee
Don’t judge me

[abcad90210]

This is the most interaction we’ve had for a while. Previously I would browse new scenes daily now weekly because of all the crap OTS shite I don’t have time to go through.

There needs to be quality control like before. 99% of OTS now wouldn’t have been released for even 1 ticket before now you are asking for 10?

Having a forum to vent criticism is the main reason i renewed membership. The hope that you will be listened to. What is my friends who actually suggested the site to me spent a few hundred euros (monthly salary in CZ), on this site. He made a few suggestions for dirty anal and all his posts were deleted. That is silencing. Yet it’s interesting you are also invited to suggestion.

My suggestion is simple. Release less quantity and focus on quality of girls and anal creampie to other girls mouth. Like the glory years a few years ago hot girls weekly creampie to other girls mouth gangbangs. WHY? I can creampie my GFs ass and come on her face myself but I can’t watch another girl sucking out my creampie from a girls ass anywhere except LP. This was sineplex old niche and why I came here.

[Jocke]

More variety please!
There are so many genres that you haven't yet tried even if they are very close to your core. If you added them you would kill competition completely. At the moment you risk that others who already have the variety, playfulness and production value becomes hard core enough and what will be unique then?

Please consider:
1. Gape licking Adriano style! I want guys to lick girl ass because when I see your models, that is what I want to do to them and I can't so your performers will have to do it for me. Adriano manage to run several sites with gape licking focus so for sure there is an audience.
2. Guys tasting the squirt or pee like Markus, same explanation as above.
3. Not just single girl scenes. Your best scenes like Jolee Love, Barbie Sins, Brittanny Bardot or Syren De Mer, Barbie Sins, Dee Williams are great because of how the girls interact. There is only so much you can do with one girl.
4. Cumshot and pissing at the same time.
5. Bukkake where the girl do the finishing job.
6. Edit away the wanking. You only need ten sconds of wanking before a cumshot or you start to feel sorry for the guy.

[dap-addict]

Hey, let's hear what you think we are doing wrong, what should be changed, adjusted, etc. Fair critics with arguments only please.

1) Communication before you do sth, especially if you take something away. - Argument: Otherwise you alienate loyal customers.

2) Private Message Box: I still dont understand why its suddenly gone, sorry! - Argument: What is wrong with ppl. exchanging private messages? Do you want them to drive out from here and to other porn forums instead? Does that help your business really? - And just to say, yes I got info via PM which dont belong in an open forum. But I never passed them on here, revealed maximum 10% of such info, always thinking carefully what will help your biz and what might harm it. On the other hand I go 100s of PM from lost clients, answering many of them, making them buy more scenes sold here, making them support studios and the girls. Other frequent posters sure did the same.

[Moxoxo]

Hey, let's hear what you think we are doing wrong, what should be changed, adjusted, etc. Fair critics with arguments only please.

1) Communication before you do sth, especially if you take something away. - Argument: Otherwise you alienate loyal customers.

2) Private Message Box: I still dont understand why its suddenly gone, sorry! - Argument: What is wrong with ppl. exchanging private messages? Do you want them to drive out from here and to other porn forums instead? Does that help your business really? - And just to say, yes I got info via PM which dont belong in an open forum. But I never passed them on here, revealed maximum 10% of such info, always thinking carefully what will help your biz and what might harm it. On the other hand I go 100s of PM from lost clients, answering many of them, making them buy more scenes sold here, making them support studios and the girls. Other frequent posters sure did the same.

The Problem ist we think a lot members are gone, but inthink XXX is seeing the real numbers of Accounts and sell's, so at the end od the day on the Forum are maybe 50 more or less active members, and on the serwers are 500k Accounts that buys the scenes. I get, you can't make everyone happy, but here you have loyal customers who are also critics and guys with cool ideas, and fanatics also . But i see we are going for the mass not the class, and the "Money printer goes brrrr"

[tekaneo]

XXX, I will be totally frank with you, whenever any of the members who write in the forum tries to write a post in which they think that some studio or even forum can improve its quality, you hide behind the phrase " There are millions of things to do before that, it is not a priority" so why should current members believe that any of their proposals are going to come true in this thread? There is no reason for it, it could put hundreds of things to improve or that should be done better but, to be honest, you have demonstrated with every time you have tried to get members to give ideas, to turn their back on everything. It is hard but it is the reality, I am not insulting you or anything like that, it is what each member of the forum have seen all this time.

Even so, I am going to write something that I think could be an improvement for the web and they have been asking for a while: an upcoming section of scenes that are going to be released, we do not want 10 or 15 scenes, but if at least 5 scenes from each studio of the next 5 days, nothing more. Is it to much for a web like LP? Every web has it and it could give to LP a boost, ppl are asking for it from loooooooooooooooooong time, please, make it a reality.

[Jocke]

I actually have seen some improvements and changes for the better. If they were due to user suggestions or not is difficult to know unless someone recognise the input.

[Jocke]

One more about content.
When I watch a scene, I look for very specific actions. It could be a smile or some nasty sex. Most scenes have like five to ten such moments making up maybe 10% of the scene. There is plenty of opportunity to make 50% of a scene watch worthy by increasing those moments.

I have posted probably a hundred gifs to show some very specific 10 second moments that I find especially arousing. I have often also included a comment. If you want my input just look at my past threads. There are tons of very specific input like these ones


girls pissing while getting fucked


guys taking girl piss


guys licking gapes

[VBT_2]

Matter of name: LEGALPORNO has logic for platform and really isn't great for production company as it sounded like "shaddy porn, but don't worry, it's legal". However, it is here for years, and other companies don't have great names either. ANALVIDS or similar would be such example also (aside that ANALvids doesn't cover all content types).

If I understand it, xxx, you now also have other companies with catchy-enough and famous names like PRIVATE or 21 SEXTURY — maybe you could simple use some of them for whole platform?

[grey00owl]

Hey, let's hear what you think we are doing wrong, what should be changed, adjusted, etc. Fair critics with arguments only please.

1) Communication before you do sth, especially if you take something away. - Argument: Otherwise you alienate loyal customers.

2) Private Message Box: I still dont understand why its suddenly gone, sorry! - Argument: What is wrong with ppl. exchanging private messages? Do you want them to drive out from here and to other porn forums instead? Does that help your business really? - And just to say, yes I got info via PM which dont belong in an open forum. But I never passed them on here, revealed maximum 10% of such info, always thinking carefully what will help your biz and what might harm it. On the other hand I go 100s of PM from lost clients, answering many of them, making them buy more scenes sold here, making them support studios and the girls. Other frequent posters sure did the same.

Felling the same.

[dap-addict]

I actually have seen some improvements and changes for the better. If they were due to user suggestions or not is difficult to know unless someone recognise the input.

I am not sure xxx meant scene ideas or specific scene 'wrongs' at all, I really think his call was more about general management of pornbox, LP and forum as well.

About scenes and porn content offered I can swear some of my suggestions were headed here and there were changes for the better because most I wanted to be changed actually also sells better. We all have to remember this is a biz and acts not selling fine - like DP for instance with most, not all, girls - have no reason to get produced because sold porn videos have to finance production of next porn videos.
I also suggested girls and gonzo/GIO/IV booked and shot them, I suggested stylings and sub-festish content and some got staged.
Thanks for that (again)!

This said let me remember more basic critic like I understood OP:
1) Communication of management and studio directors is often arrogant - or missing at all. (xxx, late thanks for making Joachim answer us!)
2) PM (private message) function suddenly gone.
3) Sudden change of old 90-day-membershit plan incl. "free" tickets able to buy scenes older than 2y not only by gonzo but also GIO and IV.

[xxx]

This is the most interaction we’ve had for a while. Previously I would browse new scenes daily now weekly because of all the crap OTS shite I don’t have time to go through.

There needs to be quality control like before. 99% of OTS now wouldn’t have been released for even 1 ticket before now you are asking for 10?

Having a forum to vent criticism is the main reason i renewed membership. The hope that you will be listened to. What is my friends who actually suggested the site to me spent a few hundred euros (monthly salary in CZ), on this site. He made a few suggestions for dirty anal and all his posts were deleted. That is silencing. Yet it’s interesting you are also invited to suggestion.

My suggestion is simple. Release less quantity and focus on quality of girls and anal creampie to other girls mouth. Like the glory years a few years ago hot girls weekly creampie to other girls mouth gangbangs. WHY? I can creampie my GFs ass and come on her face myself but I can’t watch another girl sucking out my creampie from a girls ass anywhere except LP. This was sineplex old niche and why I came here.

It has been said several times already but all you have to do is to use your feed instead of the "new scenes" tab, if seeing those extra scenes is truly unbearable. I am aware that your general filters aren't working in the feed (unless the devs released an update without telling me) so I reminded them to fix it asap.

[xxx]

We don't need to hear that you don't like this or that studio or model. We only care about your critics if you think you may be interested if they changed a bit, not if you strongly dislike them. And if you only have to say "I'd only buy at 1 tkt" (half a dollar), no need to say anything either because at these prices everything is just a big waste of time.

[Pineapples Studio]

I will say that notification of change is never a bad thing.

If you want to remove the PM system, but you don't think it's appropriate to explain your reasons (I get where you're coming from on that topic, so no need to share), you can still at least provide basic notification of the change so that your users understand it was deliberate. You really don't want to create a scenario in which your users are left to wonder if it was just a glitch. You do that enough times, and eventually you create the perception that nobody is really paying attention.

[grey00owl]

Felling the same.

edit: feeling. Another nice and useful feature got lost.

[TheVulture]

Have you seen some of these very long BTS with a side camera during the entire scene?

I'm not sure what your comment relates to. The interaction between the performers section of my feedback maybe? But no, I've never watched a BTS section. Something I was going to mention but didn't as I thought my feedback was long enough anyway is that in general I think the scenes are too long. I'm actually a fan of editing in porn and would much rather you left out the long sections of repositioning in particular. With a 50 minute scene it's almost certain that I'll be hitting the fast-forward button a fair bit. I would much rather see a 30 minute scene of continuous explosive action than a 50 minute scene with the same stuff but 20 minutes of repositioning/awkwardness etc. My hunch is that you're afraid of putting out scenes of less than 50 minutes lest it looks like poor value but I could be wrong. But for me a good edit in itself can be hot. If you have a girl in doggy DP, say, and it then cuts to rc DP there's something hot about that (as long as the cut isn't made too quickly, of course, ie the viewer has had a good fill of the doggy DP). It's the camera working at the same speed as your brain's fantasising (or something). For example, if you were just looking at a still photo of a girl and imagining her in various sex positions you wouldn't include her moving into the different positions in your fantasy, would you? People probably think that in the old days the porn directors used cuts because of the limits of VHS/DVD length or whatever. That might be true but I think they also understood the benefits of pace to maintaining the heat of a scene, something LP has never seemed to grasp. Less is often more with porn I think.

So to that end, no I don't have any interest in BTS sections. I think in many ways they could actually spoil the mystique - I don't really want to see the performers interacting in a "on the porn shoot" way if you know what I mean. I can see why some people might like that and they are perfectly valid but my point is really the opposite of that, ie of putting a little more mystique and natural interaction into the scenes themselves to increase the heat levels and make the scenes look a little more spontaneous.

[grey00owl]

I will say that notification of change is never a bad thing.

If you want to remove the PM system, but you don't think it's appropriate to explain your reasons (I get where you're coming from on that topic, so no need to share), you can still at least provide basic notification of the change so that your users understand it was deliberate. You really don't want to create a scenario in which your users are left to wonder if it was just a glitch. You do that enough times, and eventually you create the perception that nobody is really paying attention.

Exactly.

[xxx]

Hey, let's hear what you think we are doing wrong, what should be changed, adjusted, etc. Fair critics with arguments only please.

why bother?
The chief thing LP is doing wrong is not acknowledging or acting upon or discussing the suggestions offered here on these forums. Giorgio is an exception, but he doesn't change, only becomes more predictable, and is defensive about his product and his team.
Your (sham) request falls on deaf ears, just like our requests and suggestions have fallen on deaf ears.
Why bother?
Suggesting that there will be "improvement" is only for newbies to believe. Anyone who's been here even a short while knows suggestions for improvement go nowhere.

Your post displays perfectly the disregard you hold your viewers implying that viewers suggestions are considered, that we make a difference.
There are many many many many threads here about what LP can do to "improve" the product. If you've not seen them, that speaks volumes about management. If you have seen them, then why waste bandwidth with a call for suggestions?
Suggestions abound around here, have you seen them? Do you just hit "delete" when yet another "improvement" thread appears?
Nah, I'm not going to bite.

I have personally forwarded countless forum suggestions to our Gonzo directors because I know that they barely read it.

But if Giorgio or others don't change, or if it's just your perception that they don't change, does it mean that they don't read and care? Can you imagine that we may disagree with some suggestions, or that we have numbers that disagree with you?

Thinking we should jump on any suggestion is absurd, or even reply to everyone and everything.