Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[BlueShadow]

Even PornoDan said months ago in xbiz that what happens in Europe with this criminal and the agencies it’s something that in a more professional place like is the US the agents would never permit this to happens.

He found out that even Pornodan thinks what everyone thinks... XD
I am sorry for Pornodan who had to put up with his chatter.

[dap-addict]

Why?
Because LP forum is the only place of free speech left in EU and US porn forums after EGO lier APE blackmailed ebi and also adt it seems.

Yep, I know.
Speaking about PW works (and I mean not either his person, but about the video he release) on other forums is simply impossible. Just for a legit critic your post can be deleted.

It would be nice if we could limit all Bp lier APE talk to this one (1!!!) LP forum thread, though!

[robin_reid]

LOL

If Pornodan is smart what he have to do is send him to fuck himself

[proxy001]

Why?
Because LP forum is the only place of free speech left in EU and US porn forums after EGO lier APE blackmailed ebi and also adt it seems.

Yep, I know.
Speaking about PW works (and I mean not either his person, but about the video he release) on other forums is simply impossible. Just for a legit critic your post can be deleted.

It would be nice if we could limit all Bp lier APE talk to this one (1!!!) LP forum thread, though!

He feels good in Hungary, his votes are going to the dictature of Orban. He did with the free speech and media in porn exactly same what Orban did with the hungarian media as tool to keep the mass under control.
the ape firs kiledd the Machomedia forum ( we could say even if was a hungarian forum, but was the firs and most succersful one ).
Than he jumped to kill theEBI.
I know he did steps to buy credits at ADT as well to make it be a propaganda forum more than a neutral free speech conducted one.
We cannot name that forum of him a FORUM. There is everything about to promote him as The only 1, the number 1, the best, the biggest, the mega and the hyper, and so on...
I grove up in Romania the time of the Ceausescu dictature. What is on his forum is exactly same as was in those times in Romania.
All media, newspapers, TV was about, and around the brave leader of Romania- Ceausescu.
The only 1 place in the whole world today is same is in North Koreea.
The only 1 forum in the world, and only 1 dictator in the world of porn is .......naaa, whoi it is / Bravoooo( You all you know

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If we look back, Ceausescu was right in many things he tought, in many things he predicted, but the way he wished to be the GOOD one, and replace GOD, same as the french ape does in the pornworld deserved exactly to be exterminated the way he was,,,

[proxy001]

LOL

If Pornodan is smart what he have to do is send him to fuck himself

Be sure he already did it many times, only not same way exposed in public as Rocco finally did it...
Btw, he does`nt have scrupules, so he gives a fuck to it ;(
as doctors would say no medicament can help him.

[BlueShadow]

A Spider who weaves its web near a fire has two possibilities: to capture a myriad of moths or to see his spider web catch fire.

[meher.malekshahi]

Well what the hell anyway let's post some pics from the good old days then:

[BlueShadow]

when he had more hair than kilos?

[meher.malekshahi]

when he had more hair than kilos?

Don't worry there's some footage of that as well here he's having a good time:

[Iddaoeeok]

Well what the hell anyway let's post some pics from the good old days then:

Wow! He was actually quite good looking when young! Meanwhile Serge Gainsbourg looks like he's had a skinful.

[robin_reid]

when he had more hair than kilos?

Don't worry there's some footage of that as well here he's having a good time:

This is what I would never allow if I were agent and I would take care of my models; that the first experience in porn of a young 18yo girl was that: an ugly, cheap and dark hotel room with an "actor" like that shooting a homemade scene. That's fine after several shootings, but not on the first one.

This so basic is something that the agents seem not to understand. They only understand about his money

[proxy001]

when he had more hair than kilos?

Don't worry there's some footage of that as well here he's having a good time:

This is what I would never allow if I were agent and I would take care of my models; that the first experience in porn of a young 18yo girl was that: an ugly, cheap and dark hotel room with an "actor" like that shooting a homemade scene. That's fine after several shootings, but not on the first one.

This so basic is something that the agents seem not to understand. They only understand about his money

well not exactly...when comes the first experience, i think it`s better be a just in two affectionate sex act with someone the girl can trust than be a pro big movie scene with a team around, and a pro male is there to bring his best in performing for the camera, and had 5 minutes before the scene to meet the partner when checked her labtest and did 2 selfies for their IG, and Twitter...even if he`s handsome.
I believe some old guys can be more patient, and delicate than many of the handsome cool pro guys we all know.
As I told you before, I was the agent whom find to this french ape many virgin girls in the past. They first trusted me, than because he did exactly as I asked him to do, the girls trusted him as well...
Out of couple more virgins I introduced him, I mention only few stories[
EVE ANGEL
I had Petra Short as model and actual gf when once when going with my car at the Hotel where I organized the casting for the ape she just bring with her a friend ( Eva).She was not supposed to do the casting only come with my gf wanted to jump and say hello to the ape, and they drinked a coffee in the lobby. The ape come at the table, and asked Petra if she can bring the gf in the room to talk about a future exotic shooting of her.
Me as agent and bf of her did`nt had to be there, as I trusted nothing would happen without her and my consent.
Eve was supposed to come back as model when become 18 years old, but they`ve meet with Pierre several times before, and she`ve got paid in advance, I bring her to the dentistry to make her smile perfect, Pierre travelled her to Paris several times and make her a cosmetic treatment, and of course fucked and deflorated Eve without my known, and with her consent. He also did video ( so he did underage porn shooting of Eve Angel) without to know, as they were in direct contact from the first time they meet...
I become Eve`s agent the moment she become 18, and she decided to do modelling out of fuck for and with the ape.
Boroka Balls
I met her in a Night Club she was there with her mother and friends for party. Her mother was very open minded and supported her on to become a porn star.
She even talk about this in interview in main Hungarian TV.
So I was surprised when in my office Boroka told me she is ready to perform in porn if I can promise her I manage her become a porn star this way. She wished to be famous.There was only 1 big problem as she said....she was virgin
So I told her better ask her mother first as I knew they are so good friends as well, but her mother told me she accept all what her daughter want, and she trust me to chose the way is best for Boroka.
It was me supposed to deflorate her, I also talked to the gynecologist doctor from Interlab, but finally after talking as well with the ape who promised her in the phone to take care as much possible, and give her a role in his new movie he shoot for Private (Sex City), cover photo, plus big media buzz as being introduced as pornstar deflorated in front of the camera, she decided take this way...
Finally all was fine the ape took care of her, more of it, when saw Boroka was not too happy do the sex with him, he just give it up, and sent Boroka in the room of Reda Semlahen was better looking then him to deflorate her. So finally Boroka was deflorated by Reda, not in front of camera, and she did next day her first scene was only anal.But yes the media buzz worked.
Juliette Shine
She was deflorated by me and was my gf next after cayenne.Was a funny situation, as she was complained Cayenne she`s in love with me, and asked her if she`s seriously my gf seen her living with me in my apartment ? Cayenne told her : Well I never tought about just happened,but I think we@re just fuck buddies, so if you@re so much in love, I let be yours She was a generous girl always
So once Cayenne did`nt come home, but Juliette come instead, I deflorated her.
The ape was meet her after and decided to help my new gf have some media buzz same as Boroka had before and worked well as promotion. So he lied in an interview he made for the AVN about Juliette Shine...

But what is in context with your thoughts about the best first time for a model....I think is always in two with a person she accept, trust, and is professional in taking care of her, more than in fuck her aggressive way...
Those times the ape was a good ape to me, as even he always betrayed me somehow, never tried to be bad with my models, he did it with others instead...
If I think well he tried to be always more nice than I was, because this was the only key to attract them into his side to can later turn them against me in case.
Just like a snake.
You know what most of women want...nice words, sweets and cakes,and a lot of shopping whatever he say when tells he has charm and charisma, and never pay to models fuck with him, he is dreaming about, because he never count all expanses for those lunches, dinners, sweets and cakes, and small gifts in shopping malls, or just in cash are not paid literally for a porn scene, but is paid....

[robin_reid]

First time on set don’t need to be a super production for Dorcel or Tushy. I mean something more normal and professional than a cheap room with a grandpa. Just a decent location with lights, 1 cameraman, 1 mua and 1 professional actor. That’s all.

Send new model to this man right now already with 60yo and overweight in a cheap room, it‘s insane... for not to mention then the subsequent brainwashing, manipulation, etc... towards all the girls

[proxy001]

First time on set don’t need to be a super production for Dorcel or Tushy. I mean something more normal and professional than a cheap room with a grandpa. Just a decent location with lights, 1 cameraman, 1 mua and 1 professional actor. That’s all.

Send new model to this man right now already with 60yo and overweight in a cheap room, it‘s insane... for not to mention then the subsequent brainwashing, manipulation, etc... towards all the girls

Times when I`ve sent him models were times of big productions, not the times of handycam & dark cheap hotel room of his. He started his casting website after I asked him to do it as a common project,I wanted do the castings online with interview of models and when come to pose naked be as it is in a private chat room for the producers and he could do the continuation as doing the anal preparation plus the hardcore scene. Told him the few castings I`ve sold in the Hungarian DVD market they had success. He said no, bullshit, and immediately started to work on building his website.Same time he find the way to put me in trouble and get me jailed. I`ve got arrested 2009 January, and immediately he put online his casting website....
He need to spend for every casting day 2-300 Euros ( coffees, sweets, cakes, lunch, dinner,gifts, for the many people around him could make him look cool and good guy), so no rest for better shooting quality. Lights, or lightened more expansive hotel rooms, not to talk about time for it. He has to talk a lot of bullshit to brainwash the models, and manipulate people from business first.
Btw Luxury Hotels many of them just recognize him at the reception, and tell him not to shoot there porn if he want be a welcome guest....so like cheap whores he need to chose cheap hotels at least some they accept him for the high tip he pay them...

[proxy001]

Send new model to this man right now already with 60yo and overweight in a cheap room, it‘s insane... for not to mention then the subsequent brainwashing, manipulation, etc... towards all the girls

secondly, as i see these days most of the new models they go to his casting are already sex workers....already escorting, or doing sex chat, so not the real virgin girls of decades ago
Whatever you would say Robin, I don`t know you be someone was in porn 20 years ago, when was no Viagra, and virgins were real virgins with bushy never touched pussies and become red until the top of their ears when just tell them the first word connected to anything intimate....these kinda girls you can find today only in some hidden villages somewhere in mountains milking the cow.

[robin_reid]

I’m talking with the current situation, it was 10 years ago when you worked with him. Now he is a 60yo grandpa with overweight. Agencies should be more carefull when choice at which producer send first time a new model, but they don’t care.

[meher.malekshahi]

It's just unbelievable how this guy doesn't give a damn about how he looks.
He has more bodyhair than on top of his head and there's even growing a full bush in his neck.

"no matter if it shows.... it GROWS !!!"

[proxy001]

I’m talking with the current situation, it was 10 years ago when you worked with him. Now he is a 60yo grandpa with overweight. Agencies should be more carefull when choice at which producer send first time a new model, but they don’t care.

People care less and less on about more and more things...
Being agent in 2000`s or being agent today huge difference in all terms.
Me as agent I chosed with who i worked from all business was looking to get close to my models...
When Kovi started shoot for Private, he asked me to give him few models for his first movies, I gave him couple (Dora Venter, Laureen Kiss,Sandra Iron and couple more i dont remember now), but he paid extra fees compared to all the rest of high budget productions. Verry soon he become very uppish, and once when he come to my office for casting, started to complain after taking my welcome coffee why so few models comne for his casting compared to Adamo`s casting was held 1 week before. I told him honest, because miost of them are already casted for Adamo, so those models did@nt show up for him, as they both shooting same period of time for same company, so no reason to make it difficuklt to both, and first for me...
When he left he just told outside in the lobby of my studio to some models, better they chose a better agent than i am, so this was the moment he was last time, and worked for the last time with any model of mine...
Today agents are the litle puppies of some productions, and do whatever these are asking from them. Today agents job is booking tickets, making phone calls, call the taxi, make hotel or restaurant reservation, call the money change guy, drug dealer, etc. kinda lick the ass and balls for some bucks, and play the loser in front of your models when a bimbo like this ape tomorrow will tell to the model you introduce him today, that you@re just a shit, a nobody without him....
This is what the ape does since he does`nt really need agents to get in touch with their models, but he need pimps can deliver him fresh meat

[robin_reid]

Age is not the problem btw, it's just a number in the ID. There are 60yo actors in very good shape still doing super performances for the biggest studios (Steve Holmes). But this "actor" is not in that group. His main purpose is just to fuck hot girls and pretends it’s porn, and fill his ego.

[dap-addict]

secondly, as i see these days most of the new models they go to his casting are already sex workers....already escorting, or doing sex chat, so not the real virgin girls of decades ago.

What is according to you the big cultural change here?
I mean why is it like that?
What happened last 10y. in Hungary?
Is it mainly due to EU accession after 2004 maybe?


Btw, so the lier APE started that casting stuff in 2009 only? I thought he did it for Hustler already before....

[robin_reid]

I’m talking with the current situation, it was 10 years ago when you worked with him. Now he is a 60yo grandpa with overweight. Agencies should be more carefull when choice at which producer send first time a new model, but they don’t care.

People care less and less on about more and more things...
Being agent in 2000`s or being agent today huge difference in all terms.
Me as agent I chosed with who i worked from all business was looking to get close to my models...
When Kovi started shoot for Private, he asked me to give him few models for his first movies, I gave him couple (Dora Venter, Laureen Kiss,Sandra Iron and couple more i dont remember now), but he paid extra fees compared to all the rest of high budget productions. Verry soon he become very uppish, and once when he come to my office for casting, started to complain after taking my welcome coffee why so few models comne for his casting compared to Adamo`s casting was held 1 week before. I told him honest, because miost of them are already casted for Adamo, so those models did@nt show up for him, as they both shooting same period of time for same company, so no reason to make it difficuklt to both, and first for me...
When he left he just told outside in the lobby of my studio to some models, better they chose a better agent than i am, so this was the moment he was last time, and worked for the last time with any model of mine...
Today agents are the litle puppies of some productions, and do whatever these are asking from them. Today agents job is booking tickets, making phone calls, call the taxi, make hotel or restaurant reservation, call the money change guy, drug dealer, etc. kinda lick the ass and balls for some bucks, and play the loser in front of your models when a bimbo like this ape tomorrow will tell to the model you introduce him today, that you@re just a shit, a nobody without him....
This is what the ape does since he does`nt really need agents to get in touch with their models, but he need pimps can deliver him fresh meat

Yeah, call centers. Sometimes they don't even do this job right... This year I booked a russian model and the night before the shooting (from an early flight) this model did not know if the scene was bg or bga, she did not know anything about the clothes to bring or not to bring, she did not know if there is make up artist or if she had to bring her own make up, etc... this model has been messaging to my assistant production who speaks russian and thanks god they already knew each other. Finally, I had to be myself who messaged this model and had to gave her all the info. Info that I already gave to her agent days before. So I wonder, why I pay agent??? And I can tell many more similar situations about disastrous services from the so called main agencies

[proxy001]

Age is not the problem btw, it's just a number in the ID. There are 60yo actors in very good shape still doing super performances for the biggest studios (Steve Holmes). But this "actor" is not in that group. His main purpose is just to fuck hot girls and pretends it’s porn, and fill his ego.

Look as definition for being actor, or performer in adult biz would be by me the person is performing a sexual act following instructions (director) and it is paid for the rights of his performance.
Since many punters decided to take this way, and built they own website to shoot pov with the models they wanna fuck for their own enjoyment, he also become a lets say "actor" He could never perform following someone else instructions, nor in public audience...
The scenes he perform together with some friendly male actors, those guys they do everything by the ape`s will, make him be easy to perform, not exactly as in many other productions is happening.
So again he is" actor " because of his MONEY
Hey me too i fucked together with David Perry, Greg Centauro my model in Greg`s Budapest apartment back in 2000s for fun. Nobody was paid, and was not recorded. So I am also porn actor ?
I fucked dozen of my ex models for fun without to pay them in my apartment together with actors like James Brosman( half year when living in my apartment), Zenza raggi, Tristan Seagal ( several times when he come to shoot in budapest and was same living in my ap, being my guest),Greg Centauro...and we even recorded some, more of it i have shoot many interviews and fucked first time models or me, or just calling some of my friend actors do the job, paid for it and released some of them on DVD^s ...so I am again actor ? More of it, i am producer as well ?
It`s so sad I have most of these old stuffs recorded on miniDVs and even there not the best quality as i did it relly for fun and purpose of accomodate the first timer models with the shooting I could show up many of those "first fucked by the French Ape" in their real first time moments...

[proxy001]

secondly, as i see these days most of the new models they go to his casting are already sex workers....already escorting, or doing sex chat, so not the real virgin girls of decades ago.

What is according to you the big cultural change here?
Intimacy is lost. More and more exposed to a bigger audience generated a big change on the personality of new generations of models. Some characteristics were really sexy, erotic disappeared, cannot be find in new models anymore.
I mean why is it like that?
as being adult performer become so much public compared to the era of VHS and even DVD, also become from a high class entertainment a low class entertainment of today.
Cicciolina could be a member of the italian parliament ( next to Vatican ) today she`s just a whore she sucked horses, and put all kind of animals into her holes...
What happened last 10y. in Hungary?
First of all I disappeared
Secondly, the Ape could handle better way things in Budapest as he had to deal with 3 women as heads of agencies, to throw sparks from one to the other the way he decided be better to him. After Cameron (Szilvi) of sandysmodels got replaced by orsi (someone never saw a porn scene before)not a lets say ex model at least, I think all they just got bored of this new porn world they created all together...
The Ape is also more interrested in making troubles, manipulate as nothing and nobody is anymore serious, it`s just a joke, how all just fuck around on all kind of platforms like [spam], clipsforsale, and all what`s new makes more public and bring less income
But being known they can make many side business for better money So it`s just cheap all
Is it mainly due to EU accession after 2004 maybe?
No really. Is it due to this new internet era we live now....


Btw, so the lier APE started that casting stuff in 2009 only? I thought he did it for Hustler already before....

He opened his own website in 2009.
All those edited short version interviews were mostly staged for private, and hustler got replaced with some real gems were hidden, and based on this image creating the new staged ones....all in longer version style you all know.Cheap hotel room It looks more genuine, and if it sells to be genuine it is more wanted off course.
But he is over with the genuine stuffs since long time, as he could convert digital, and edit only a small part of, and what`s new it`s as i told before with new generation of models, and staged whatever he say to his members he can easy fool them

[BlueShadow]

We have to say, as long as I'm intellectually honest, that he has never defined himself as an "actor" or a "performer", on the contrary, the concept behind the castings is: seeing girls in normal situations with real sex without doing it with the sweetening of the camera, lights, photographers etc.
even if the effectiveness of this concept is gradually decreasing. Difficult nowadays to find seriously virgin girls (and by virgins I mean the first time they have sex in front of a camera).
Many models for which it says "you will see how porn started" already have dozens of hard videos on [spam] / [spam] sand are already sex workers. They know what they are doing, they are only looking for further fame to sell their content on [spam] by themselves. (The last example is the last girl that you can see on WCX..)
They aren't even real "pornstars."
For me [spam] / [spam] ruin porn even more then piracy.
Indeed piracy can also be a source of publicity, even PW himself said so.
Instead now with the mentality of these girls the opposite happens, they use porn to advertise their site or their escort services.

[dap-addict]

What happened last 10y. in Hungary?
First of all I disappeared
(...)

Thanks a lot! Interesting answers!
But what I meant was rather culturally, ie. what changed in Hungarian culture and life style?
I ask because still in Hungary in places outside Budapest you can find fairly traditional societies it seems, church influence, conservative politics etc. Same in other big Bp talent pool, Transilvania (Romania).

[proxy001]

What happened last 10y. in Hungary?
First of all I disappeared
(...)

Thanks a lot! Interesting answers!
But what I meant was rather culturally, ie. what changed in Hungarian culture and life style?
I ask because still in Hungary in places outside Budapest you can find fairly traditional societies it seems, church influence, conservative politics etc. Same in other big Bp talent pool, Transilvania (Romania).

Since priests hold mass on internet in live, shepherds count sheeps using their smartphones up in mountains, we can say all is changed out of Budapest, and even in Transylvania(Romania)...

[meher.malekshahi]

Don't we all love the hair distributed randomly on his back?

[robin_reid]

Look as definition for being actor, or performer in adult biz would be by me the person is performing a sexual act following instructions (director) and it is paid for the rights of his performance.
Since many punters decided to take this way, and built they own website to shoot pov with the models they wanna fuck for their own enjoyment, he also become a lets say "actor" He could never perform following someone else instructions, nor in public audience...

Well is not always exactly like that, you can be a real porn actor without following intructions director on set, take for intance when I perform in Barcelona for Gio's Lab. studio, whoever of my clients or whoever I'm thinking to sell the scene. I'm performing under some required standars according to the site/client, sometimes even following mandatory sex positions in the same order that the client ordered me in a scenario/script. But there is a cameraman and I'm performing in an exigent and not easy scene to perform, I'm not in a room alone with the model shooting pov/planted camera

[proxy001]

Look as definition for being actor, or performer in adult biz would be by me the person is performing a sexual act following instructions (director) and it is paid for the rights of his performance.
Since many punters decided to take this way, and built they own website to shoot pov with the models they wanna fuck for their own enjoyment, he also become a lets say "actor" He could never perform following someone else instructions, nor in public audience...

Well is not always exactly like that, you can be a real porn actor without following intructions director on set, take for intance when I perform in Barcelona for Gio's Lab. studio, whoever of my clients or whoever I'm thinking to sell the scene. I'm performing under some required standars according to the site/client, sometimes even following mandatory sex positions in the same order that the client ordered me in a scenario/script. But there is a cameraman and I'm performing in an exigent and not easy scene to perform, I'm not in a room alone with the model shooting pov/planted camera

Off course, but you are following some specific requirements, not your instinctual joy upon the situation.
This ape is only enjoying the sex does`nt really care of what he @s recording. in case he need he just call back the model and repeat all until he has enough material to edit and show. If there is no come back of the model, who cares, members will remain with the promises

[BlueShadow]

Well, not exactly true.
What he do (and the positions) is always in favor of the camera (with both POV and fixed camera).
The times of "hidden camera" (or supposed to be) casting are finished time ago.

[BlueShadow]

But what remains are still promises and teasing... This is true. This behaviour will never change.

[BlueShadow]

What he mean with "hyper correct"? Staying anal exclusive for nothing and block works I guess... LOL

[robin_reid]

[spam]

[meher.malekshahi]

I'm just starting to love all this shit.
Can we make it to page 7 guys?

[proxy001]

So if you wanna be correct, not only smart, but shy take your time now when busy with Covid19 and send messages to Pierre Woodman
Restaurants are closed, he cannot make brainwash lunch meetings, but he will buy new camera, some more lights finally he does`nt spend the money on sweets, and cakes

[robin_reid]

This is another of his obsessions, boasting and let know the world that the models are messaging to him, and sometimes publish their whatssap messages as a prove and as a boast. This one of this young spanish girl (that after him she quit porn like many others) calling him "daddy" it very looks like something very sick. This high level of relationship and commintment with the girls to try to get the goal of keep them exclusive for anal with frequent messages like the good grandfather who gives good advices, with smiles, gifts, dinners... really very sick...

[dap-addict]

This one of this young spanish girl (that after him she quit porn like many others) calling him "daddy" it very looks like something very sick.

What you reckon: Is it just a power game obsession, like only me, EGO, had her doing anal blablabla or is it connected with his other biz?
Too bad that Spanish beauty is out already!

[Iddaoeeok]

All that nauseating ingratiating garbage he writes about new girls - they're all wonderful, kind people and always have 'good hearts' - and then when he fucks them on camera it's just a stream of 'salope' and 'putain' etc. He is so tediously predictable. And then, of course, when they fall out with him, these wonderful kind girls with good hearts all become snakes.

[Iddaoeeok]

... hey, page 7!

[meher.malekshahi]

... hey, page 7!

As PW would say: Bravo!... c'est bon! ... c'est ... bon! ... j'adore! ...