Pierre Woodman: "I am a bastard and break the will of girls"

[BlueShadow]

Of course, he speak about LP on his own forum. Despite of what he say.
We are all the same.

[IndyPleco]

Well, get ready to make those sacrifices, because this guy has similar mannerisms, uses French words, speaks of "we" when referring to Woodman, repeats the same old tropes "circus", "no passion", etc. and insists that everyone who doesn't march to his fife needs a psych eval. Sound familiar?

All of you have mentals problems ! Some girls prefer Woodman, others prefer Brazzers, others the Vixen company others LP , Kinuski didn't want to work for LP, it's funny enough because when a girl doesn't want to work for Woodman, you don't make a big deal out of it ! A lot of girls refused LP Caprice , Shona River (even though she worked on the site against her will deceived by a company that under dealt) , a lot of American refuses LP ... And yet you do not spit on them, you waste your time talking only about Woodman, but frankly wake up, because most of the time girls dream of working for the Vixen Company, with Manuel, Kayden Kross and Maitland Ward, because it is a classy company that has the means, I do not think that LP or Woodman can compete with the big companies ! Without wanting to be funny, most LP scenes do not degant any passion, they look like zombie gymnasts who fuck, with practices and positions worthy of the circus !

It becomes annoying that you do not bear the truth, as soon as you are put in front of your betise, and we have a word for Woodman right away we are a nickname of Woodman who hides underground or one of his fans indoctrinated, you really need psychiatric care, do you have a life, family ...? What happens in the bizz and who is jealous of who, as well as your ideas limit paranoid to think that we condition the brains of people we do not care, unless you are middle people and you are looking for revenge , I see no use to chain you like that on a man while we are here to play and not to play the Soap with fake dramas and worthy plots of a political conspiracy!
Now I'm really getting tired of chatting with idiots who think I'm Woodman, this is the 50th time that I get this it gets tired, change records and have arguments, really get care of yourself, I want to discuss with reasonable people, not with SS thinking!

[Iddaoeeok]

There's also another stylistic quirk, which I won't reveal, PW does when he's writing that this 'professeurphilo' also does - could be coincidence, but... Even if it is isn't him this time, he has definitely posted on the LP forum before.

[Pineapples Studio]

It's clearly him.

[robin_reid]

Don’t need to be very smart to realize that always he writes himself with another nickname to praise himself, and he doesn't even have the cunning to change his writing a little... Ridiculous.

[BlueShadow]

And in the meantime another attack to LP, more precisely to Giorgio Grandi.
I don't ever bother to post the screencapture.
This just as reminder that he not talk about LP, and he don't care.
And the mule can fly.

[BlueShadow]

Don’t need to be very smart to realize that always he writes himself with another nickname to praise himself, and he doesn't even have the cunning to change his writing a little... Ridiculous.

LOL. Its so obvious.
But the main thing is: Who the fuck cares what Mary Rock said? LOL
Only him.

[trinity]

but look at this one simple thing, he writes non-stop "first...with me..." he wrote this for 98% of girls he worked with, he writes that he never payed something to those girls, don't know what is reason they shoot with him, but he wrote this that he never payed for 100% girls he worked with and guess what? there is some evil studio that makes him troubles...how is that possible?? do you realize what did i write? that cannot be possible, something of that must be lie...that with first times and fucking girls for free or that with evil studio that ruins everything. both of these ascertainment cannot be truth, not at all.

[robin_reid]

Don’t need to be very smart to realize that always he writes himself with another nickname to praise himself, and he doesn't even have the cunning to change his writing a little... Ridiculous.

LOL. Its so obvious.
But the main thing is: Who the fuck cares what Mary Rock said? LOL
Only him.

Make new accounts to praise himself it's something very sick...

This account “sodomyte” is same he used in his Kinuski thread to start to talk about me

[BlueShadow]

Yep, all this account joined relatively recently and with 4-5 post on his forum are suspicious. I mean, look here, 90% of the members are active with 100 + post.
There, an account joined 6th april, make a few post and then desappear.
The % of accounts with less than 10 post (and posting only for a few days) is too much high.

[robin_reid]

And in the meantime another attack to LP, more precisely to Giorgio Grandi.
I don't ever bother to post the screencapture.
This just as reminder that he not talk about LP, and he don't care.
And the mule can fly.

Nobody cares nor pays attention about that stupid tweet. I see only 1 brainwashed model that did RT. There is not any shut down in porn production and every country is a different situation. He tagged several agencies in that tweet, well, some of them should be more carefull to not send models go around to do escort and prostitution instead to pay attention to that tweet or if Gio or whoever is shooting now.

[dap-addict]

but look at this one simple thing, he writes non-stop "first...with me..." he wrote this for 98% of girls he worked with, he writes that he never payed something to those girls, don't know what is reason they shoot with him, but he wrote this that he never payed for 100% girls he worked with and guess what? there is some evil studio that makes him troubles...how is that possible?? do you realize what did i write? that cannot be possible, something of that must be lie...that with first times and fucking girls for free or that with evil studio that ruins everything. both of these ascertainment cannot be truth, not at all.

Well, it might be possible he gets them for free if at the same time he can guarantee them lots of other jobs with really good income, 10k or something like that. Liar APE has other contacts than only porn, also politics and besides Paris also other more Southern Countries. Some girls want to work there, be it in elderly homes or other businesses, maybe just as companions, hostesses whatsoever.
That could be how it works, although I dont believe they do all his cheap hotel tricks with him entirely for free.

[BlueShadow]

Nothing is really free in this world. Not ever love.

BTW it's the same discussion.
there are hundreds of girls who are then paid (the interview and the nude is paid to the agency ... then there are the "extras" ...) but there is no scene to see (or not yet ).
So what they did in that room (thanks to promises and words, and need of money.) Was anything but not porn. Any girl with a brain understands this.

And there are also promises of future works, if the model appears in a scene on his site, stay sure that that model first offered a "service" ... (escort? I'm not saying that ... we can call that as we want .)

So, for me even just appearing there ... I would worry about my image.

[meher.malekshahi]

Okay: WHY the FUCK is a thread about this hairy bastard on this site lasting FIVE PAGES for fuck's sake?!

[robin_reid]

Even PornoDan said months ago in xbiz that what happens in Europe with this criminal and the agencies it’s something that in a more professional place like is the US the agents would never permit this to happens.

[BlueShadow]

He tagged several agencies in that tweet...

The paladin of porn! LOL

[BlueShadow]

Even PornoDan said months ago in xbiz that what happens in Europe with this criminal and the agencies it’s something that in a more professional place like is the US the agents would never permit this to happens.

Of course everyone with a brain is aware of this.
The problem are some agency that send inexperienced girls to him, as he say, the agents should protect them.
And first of all they should make them understand that getting a first anal or first dp (there is a market value for that) being stolen (through coercing of newbie) is never a good thing.
He hides behind the excuse that it is not a question of money but only of pleasure, but in reality if he tries to always have the first anal and or first DP yhere is only one reason... he does not do it for economic and business matters? Maybe that's what makes girls believe but he knows very well that he makes money. C'mon ...

[robin_reid]

Even PornoDan said months ago in xbiz that what happens in Europe with this criminal and the agencies it’s something that in a more professional place like is the US the agents would never permit this to happens.

Of course everyone with a brain is aware of this.
The problem are some agency that send inexperienced girls to him, as he say, the agents should protect them.
And first of all they should make them understand that getting a first anal or first dp (there is a market value for that) being stolen (through coercing of newbie) is never a good thing.
He hides behind the excuse that it is not a question of money but only of pleasure, but in reality if he tries to always have the first anal and or first DP yhere is only one reason... he does not do it for economic and business matters? Maybe that's what makes girls believe but he knows very well that he makes money. C'mon ...

Actually I don't care a fuck the fact that if he shoot a newcomer model first, and the rest of the european producers and companies, including LP studios, same. I shouldn't want the agencies sending me models first. The main problem here is the subsequent brainwashing, manipulation and blocking in connivence with the agencies. That's the danger when a model goes to Budapest and drop in hands of those agencies that quickly send her to Woodman for the interview, no matter if she did put on the form "no anal" or "no old men", they send her to him anyway to try to get her doing anal and dp. And if she does it, this model is already a lost model except few exceptions of smart and not naive girls like Ginebra Bellucci that did not listen his advices, did not pay attention to his smiles neither accepted his gifts, his invitations for dinners, lunches and other things that you know...

[dap-addict]

And if she does it, this model is already a lost model except few exceptions of smart and not naive girls like Ginebra Bellucci that did not listen his advices, did not pay attention to his smiles neither accepted his gifts, his invitations for dinners, lunches and other things that you know...

That's the true drama behind all other dramas a la Kinushki we had again last few days here.
What I dont get fully is there are 3 agents in Bp and lier APE just broke with one and his longest standing recently, but it looks its easy for him to just replace her by another agent, even though they know exactly how he does his business and that it isn't fair, ethical and porn sustainable at all!

With his old Bp agent there were a lot of links from a quite distant past, also personal links, and also a common history, but with his new one. What links them beyond bad karma and greed? But its probably enough for both of them.

[dap-addict]

Btw, or does big EGO not only coerce girls but agencies, too?

[IndyPleco]

Btw, or does big EGO not only coerce girls but agencies, too?

He does. When Empatic Models booked the Zee Twins for LP he took it out on them by refusing other models.

[proxy001]

Why you think he does not pay for castings ? Off course he pay. He pay even for just talking with the girl without to get her touched...He pay for the interview 100-300 Euros depending on th girl in case. Noname countless model with the choice to being banged by him 100 Eu proposed in advance for the interview +2-3 naked poses.
Models we would all wish to see on our screens get more 2-300Euros only for the interview with the right to decide after that if they wanna go further with him.
So of course he start with the meeting at the restaurant, offering the hot Chocolate frist some cakes, sweets like a real candyman. hde has allways couple more people around whom will make the good promo for him, the assistant, makeup girl (Gaby), another model was overpaid for marketing purpose
Agencies are getting same 100Eu just for the casting.
But of course girls going from agencies most of them they already know they go for what...( To get fucked by the ape and to be paid for it not less of 5-600Euro these days)
So after the girl got naked and he did the 2-3 naked shots he stop the camera and start to deal with the model. Start the brainwash and manipulation as well and of course with the help of the translator. It is verry important who`s the translator assistant , because his reliability depend a lot on the person he use as translator.I can say most of the job when come to convince the model is up to the translator, not up to his (charm, charisma - he would say he has ). The discussion with the camera off could last for hours sometime, and when the deal is made, the scenario is built camera is on from the point they stop before. Off course many times models they don`t know they will be recorded when with Pierre, they know only they will be recorded later when with other performers. But they have to allow the ape to prepare them for anal, because this is how it works at him. Like at Weinstein you cannot work in his movies without being fucked in the ass by him.
I think Harwey Weinstein would`nt have the balls and do the casting couch as he did, if he would not hear about the french ape he does this way...
o boys can already be there waiting in the restaurant, or another time can be remaked the casting interview as well, so this does@nt change much the fact he pays every time for every casting, many times even without doing any recorded interview just for showing up. Mostly if the girl comes with a 2m tall gorilla boyfriend he is verry smiley, friendly, and pays sometime even to the gorilla some tip So better girls they go meet PW with some Gorillas, cuz both they will be paid at the end
On about agencies in Budapest...
When business was great back in 2000s agencies could work in peace and control the business all together. off course always competition was existing but in a healthy way we could handle a blacklist for models and for clients as well...
Guess when all this changed in Budapest ?
Well does`nt really matter , but the ape is still capable to make fire every day between agents, and models as he always tried to do with more or less success.
Today very few jobs for models compared to what was 5-10-15 years ago...today they work with each other for [spam], etc., and have couple of scenes monthly for production studios. You cannot compare this with the situation when have 3-4 scenes weekly as was before 10 y ago.
And every production is working with every agency. Back in 2000s was enough to chose 1 agency in Budapest was collaborate with the other main agencies, and you could book the model you wanted was exclusive of an agency you never worked with.....But this mostly worked the times Budapest was missing the ape....
Best times were 2003-2007 when he made happy people in Czech Rep. instead of making fire in Hungary.

[BlueShadow]

What? Fire between agencies? In 30 years he never had a problem with any agency! You don't know nothing!!


Weinstein?
Look this photo, Asia Argento and Weinstein, look how afraid she is of the man that she later accused of rape!
(in this photo they had already had several sexual encounters)



Lets be clear, I don't accuse PW to be a rapist,
but the psychological effect on these models can be very similar.

[dap-addict]

When business was great back in 2000s agencies could work in peace and control the business all together. off course always competition was existing but in a healthy way we could handle a blacklist for models and for clients as well...
Guess when all this changed in Budapest ?

I bet you wanna say it changed when EGO arrived in Bp (from Prg?).
But would still be interesting to know how he managed what nobody managed before and why that?
Also it seems to me that back in 2000-07 there were much more agencies working in Bp still, not only the mainly 3 we have now.
And finally EGO really didnt shoot in Bp 2003-7?
Thats completely new to me.

[meher.malekshahi]

Please let this thread die.

+1

[BlueShadow]

When business was great back in 2000s agencies could work in peace and control the business all together. off course always competition was existing but in a healthy way we could handle a blacklist for models and for clients as well...
Guess when all this changed in Budapest ?

I bet you wanna say it changed when EGO arrived in Bp (from Prg?).
But would still be interesting to know how he managed what nobody managed before and why that?
Also it seems to me that back in 2000-07 there were much more agencies working in Bp still, not only the mainly 3 we have now.
And finally EGO really didnt shoot in Bp 2003-7?
Thats completely new to me.

He shooted in BP also in '99, 2005 etc. But was mainly based in Prague. In the last 7-10 years moved in BP.

[BlueShadow]

hey today LP is mentioned several times on the Spider-pig forum, I think it's a new record!

[Iddaoeeok]

I have a theory that, at any one time, the only people actually on the Woodman forum are Woodman himself and Blue Shadow.

[BlueShadow]

You said the name of EGO-man 2 times in the same post!
Watch out!

[robin_reid]

10 years ago Brillbabes was complaining about his style of work and even stopped providing models to him. 10 years after, he is doing same and even worse. Now he accumulate many more unetical acts like the blackmailing to Luciana Karel, the mess with Lana Rhoades who got scared and ran away from him, lot of models that he began to lashing out at them in his forum etc etc...

[proxy001]

When business was great back in 2000s agencies could work in peace and control the business all together. off course always competition was existing but in a healthy way we could handle a blacklist for models and for clients as well...
Guess when all this changed in Budapest ?

I bet you wanna say it changed when EGO arrived in Bp (from Prg?).
But would still be interesting to know how he managed what nobody managed before and why that?
Also it seems to me that back in 2000-07 there were much more agencies working in Bp still, not only the mainly 3 we have now.
And finally EGO really didnt shoot in Bp 2003-7?
Thats completely new to me.

He shooted in BP also in '99, 2005 etc. But was mainly based in Prague. In the last 7-10 years moved in BP.

He got in trouble with his ex gf, and assistant Judith Fox,and got a bit scared to stay in Budapest as he had his new gf @s car amortizated with a letter on it, So after this and after he had stolen a full studio light equipment he wanted to bring in Hungary without papers, he realized better stay away for a while from Budapest. Budapest agencies were happy without him btw. those times agencies were Brillbabes, Sandysmodels, Topimodels, Gekkomodels, and X-clusive running the biz.When some big project of his come up, like was the shooting of Sex Ciy, and Xcalibur he shoot mostly in Prague and Paris. Those times when i had some interresting model for him he could pay good ( as I had for him those times organised Cayenne klein, Leanna Sweet, Boroka Balls just to name few you should know),I sent them in paris or prague for casting or shooting. But with me he was in a special business relationship as he could be sure he gets what he need. I mean even if he got Boroka as virgin for casting he could be sure will shoot her for anal nesxtday as everythng was discussed with the model before, and she was sure 100% on her will to do these scenes.
He moved back for real in Hungary only in 2009 , when I got arrested. he took in his hands the manipulation of my models, and gf as well, send my models to Brillbabes agency, some of them to escort in Dubai, just to make empty my agency when I`m back from France. Finally he did it. Off course when i was back he show up as he would help me be back in track. He tried to manage things to make me organize criminal actions against Brillbabes.I had to translate his will to the bad boys he paid them do the job. Finally the guys did`nt made anything but asked him to pay . So he paid couple thousnds of Euros for feeding his own EGO
He started to deal with my new models behind my back with other agencies. Sent my model to sandysmodels to get jobs in exchange of another new model. He told I have find girls like Amirah adara, Bonny Singer, Daisy Hot, Sophie Lynx and many more whom theywent to other agents because of him. He started to play the agent and manaqger of my models, than just make business with other agents sending my models for works to them doing the deal as they make them work only vaginal and give him in exchange new models for casting.Sent the models as pimp to his brother, and other friends for escort paid by him.
So wht do you expext this ape will do today ?

[BlueShadow]

Nah. He said never a problem with the best agency in 30 years.
So, Brillbabes is not one of the best agency...





He has an argue with every person and agency within the industry at least once, Giorgio Grandi, Brillbabes, Juliana Grandi, Rocco Siffredi, translator, his own performers that he used in the scene... and now I have understood that even Pornodan he doesn't have an idyllic view of what he does.


And as we can see he has no problem to making fun on girls and also show screenshot of material without the consent of model/agency just for fullfill his ego. How such a subject can still be around is incomprehensible (and even frightening to see how agencies that tend to forget everything for some money behave) And he talk about professionality of others. The saint paladin.



Complain about BP agencies, why he came there so, Prague better no more?
Oh, and best of the best, here he complain about the: ''No anal they said!!''



But now he has no problems when his '' beloved '' Brillbabes, who is now the best agency in the world ... XD does not mention anal for models who have already done anal for him.
He is a joke.

[proxy001]

10 years ago Brillbabes was complaining about his style of work and even stopped providing models to him. 10 years after, he is doing same and even worse. Now he accumulate many more unetical acts like the blackmailing to Luciana Karel, the mess with Lana Rhoades who got scared and ran away from him, lot of models that he began to lashing out at them in his forum etc etc...

Cool you come up the right moment with theese screenshots. Exactly the moment when i was writing about those times he wanted to burn the Brillbabes office, broke Robert Millers nose, but finally he just paid the money for it
And yes was the time when he did`nt helped me come out, he helped me be jailed, and tried to keep me as much possible inprisoned, but when I come out started to play the helpful guy, and me i had to accept this situation only to keep him close, until I end up with my court case...So after 2012 when my case was closed soon I told to this ape it`s over for him to play my boss, and bye bye. Off course he says he fired me. He needs this for his Ego, but the truth is I told him into the face that I know everything about he was who put me in trouble, and wanted me to be jailed, more of it he balanced me, organised models to make fake acuusations (paid for it)Build up escort business with my models on my back, and send them in Dubai the time I was jailed...

[robin_reid]

10 years ago Brillbabes was complaining about his style of work and even stopped providing models to him. 10 years after, he is doing same and even worse. Now he accumulate many more unetical acts like the blackmailing to Luciana Karel, the mess with Lana Rhoades who got scared and ran away from him, lot of models that he began to lashing out at them in his forum etc etc...

Cool you come up the right moment with theese screenshots. Exactly the moment when i was writing about those times he wanted to burn the Brillbabes office, broke Robert Millers nose, but finally he just paid the money for it
And yes was the time when he did`nt helped me come out, he helped me be jailed, and tried to keep me as much possible inprisoned, but when I come out started to play the helpful guy, and me i had to accept this situation only to keep him close, until I end up with my court case...So after 2012 when my case was closed soon I told to this ape it`s over for him to play my boss, and bye bye. Off course he says he fired me. He needs this for his Ego, but the truth is I told him into the face that I know everything about he was who put me in trouble, and wanted me to be jailed, more of it he balanced me, organised models to make fake acuusations (paid for it)Build up escort business with my models on my back, and send them in Dubai the time I was jailed...

If he is doing now the same bad and unethical acts, I wonder... why BB support him and is accomplice and silent about all these things they were complaining 10 years ago? Extra money?? any shady deal? might be probably that he is even blackmailing and threatening them too??

[ayrtight]

Speaking about Weinstein , it would be interesting to shed some light about his relationship with Epstein .

[BlueShadow]

No, nowadays he will have been in jail..
Let's see. A "big" producer that receive young girls in a hotel room, those girls do sexual favors (since is not porn, no scene to see...) through promises of works.
In the world of today I have seen people condamned for much less.

[meher.malekshahi]

So AGAIN:

WHY the FUCK is a thread about this hairy bastard on this site lasting FIVE PAGES for fuck's sake?!

[dap-addict]

Why? - Because its the only place of free speech left in EU and US porn forums after EGO lier APE blackmailed ebi and also adt it seems.

[dap-addict]

edit:
Making it more clear:

So AGAIN:

WHY the FUCK is a thread about this hairy bastard on this site lasting FIVE PAGES for fuck's sake?!

Why?
Because LP forum is the only place of free speech left in EU and US porn forums after EGO lier APE blackmailed ebi and also adt it seems.

[BlueShadow]

edit:
Making it more clear:

So AGAIN:

WHY the FUCK is a thread about this hairy bastard on this site lasting FIVE PAGES for fuck's sake?!

Why?
Because LP forum is the only place of free speech left in EU and US porn forums after EGO lier APE blackmailed ebi and also adt it seems.

Yep, I know.
Speaking about PW works (and I mean not either his person, but about the video he release) on other forums is simply impossible. Just for a legit critic your post can be deleted.
And better don't speak about his forum over-controlled.