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Random thoughts while downloads are down.

Postby magizi877 » Sat Aug 02, 2014 7:20 pm

I hope ppl can understand my english:

Hello, I was looking for scenes to watch, mostly girls I like, doing DP scenes since that's what I prefer, but download server appears to be down. Anyway, while I was searching I noticed that many scenes, regardless of it being a cream, or piss, or whatever type of scene, were lost in a sea of content. Even with girls that are great looking like Milla Yul for instance.
What I mean by lost is, they didn't sell pretty well. Now, what I do for a living is taking a look at situations and optimize them, so naturally I just started to think about why these scenes didn't perform.

I began remembering what was going on during the time some of these scenes were released. And came to the conclusion, that some scenes, were not given a real chance to shine. I obviously see this as a problem, especially for DP scenes since I care those sell well, so producers keep filming them, heh!

For instance

When a scene is released while the webpage is down for several days. Many customers will miss it out just because they didn't saw it.

When the scene is released and the customer does not have tkt left to spend and his next recharge is a week away, and by then, other, also good scenes become available and cause the customer to forget about the previews scene, unless of course he REALLY likes the girl of the one week old scene.

Back in November 2013, or around that time, like 60 or so scenes were released the same day, because content managers were just letting footage pile up out of control. AND we were complaining we saw all this crazy good trailers but no actual full scenes (which also lead to the removal of the coming soon section for some odd reason, WTF?!)... LP wanted to start a new era of better customer service I figure, but IMO they didn't thought this one through, well enough. And being in August 2014, and they still have a lot of stuff to iron out. I hope it's not a money problem. Moving on...

Back then, scenes were 1 tkt each for the most part, but unless you had a 100 tkt per month like I did (which I think was the $79.90 business model of back then), you had to be picky and choose which scenes you liked the most to buy them (pretty much same situation as now, but IMO worse) with the other subscription plan, 20 tkt a month I think, since many scenes in that bunch sold below 100k copies, my guess is that most LP customers run with the cheap subscription model and have a low amt of tkts to spend. (although its cheap only in the surface). Given that some scenes have sold the likes of 300k to 1 million copies, a scene with only 30k views or less, seems like a total catastrophe to me. Unless, people really pay $10 dollars or whatever for an individual scene and inflate scenes with so many views, Which honestly I think is insane. LOL. But is possible.

So what I'm saying is, that obviously, most of this content will be skipped by costumers, because they don't have enough tkts to buy scenes. Which is not what I think LP wants, I would imagine that their strategy is, make content so good that customers don't cancel their subscription plan, like ever. But if customers can't see all the stuff they like, and feel forced to buy more tkts, they might feel like your are milking them out, which is never a good feeling. And what is possibly happening, customers just buy tkts when a girl they REALLY like does a scene for LP, but that doesn't seem like something good for LP from a financial perspective.

I know some customers dislike DP scenes, which has been the flavor of the past month, and they keep piling up on tkt, but for ppl who do like them, or say "tolerate" DP scenes and buy it for the girl, we are always running low on tkts. I mean, I pay for the 3 month plan and sometimes also pay for a 120 tkt recharge and still have many.... MANY scenes I haven't purchased, that I want to see, because I dont have tkts.

IMO this creates some significant issues:

The "other" studios, that shoot content with significantly worse equipment (camera, lightning, etc), many scenes do not offer pictures, and male actors who look like normal people, feel low quality to us, "filler" content. I would say most of us feel like wasting tkts on those studios. Because those scenes rarely sell more than 30k copies the first two weeks. Which probably leads LP to believe that the girl on that scene was "un-atractive" and they just don't hire the girl anymore because she sold "few" copies from that lower quality studio. With that said, I'm pretty sure a lot of people follow the girl, not the content type, so they buy 1 month form any porn site, cancel the renewal and move on to a different site because they only want the scenes from their favorite pornstar. And when they visit your site and find out, that their favorite girl only did one scene for you, also see a high entry barrier (stiff prices, shady name, pain in the ass account creation and bank security) They probably figure out its too much hassle for 1 or 2 scenes and leave.

Also, if you release a scene, when the majority of customers have ran out of tkt, its gonna have low sales.Thus creating the illusion that the girl in the scene is highly disliked... Which suggest the business model you offer to the customers needs to be re-visited.
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Re: Random thoughts while downloads are down.

Postby Shotgun00 » Sun Aug 03, 2014 2:58 am

I can't argue with the first part of that, or the rest either. But if I recall correctly, the Amirah and Blanche scene got released and then the server went down for a couple of days and that one has surprisingly low views. There's also the possibility so many people refused to buy a scene with Nacho but I'm leaning more towards server down time. I know my views aren't everyone's but that scene was fucking hot and I've never really understood why it didn't do as well as others, which in my opinion were nowhere near

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Re: Random thoughts while downloads are down.

Postby dap-addict » Sun Aug 03, 2014 4:46 pm

Like so many others here I do wonder why a company producing such hot and demanded content is unable to market their scenes better and introduce some more customer friendlyness. It starts with the difficult subscription, that strange ticket system etc. and goes to such lacking basic functions as a good search pad or a fave girls scenes info alert function.

I bet LP could sell most scenes 2-5 times more often IF they cared more about selling and promoting them!

But than that seems not top priority, which we can also see as a hint to just lay back and not think so much about sales rates for our fave models. Looks like a lot of girls just get booked when they are available. And those given a miss rather kick themselves out on set with their fussy behaviour - like Ivana Sugar for instance. On the other hand some girls demanded on the board hit the van eventually, some people at LP listen to the fans, although it is not a constant feature. For sure when present and reding in here xxx tries his best! :)
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Re: Random thoughts while downloads are down.

Postby Pineapples Studio » Mon Aug 04, 2014 1:55 am

My assessment:

* The name "Legalporno" is shady as hell and probably puts a lot of people off from joining the site straightaway. I've never liked that name. Why not just call it Gonzo.com?!

* The ticket system is actually fine. It's not that confusing and it makes sense because certain scenes cost more than others to produce.

* Attestation is shady, though. Having done it, I can say now that it's not as bad as I initially thought it would be, but it put me off joining for months. LP should do a better job of explaining what it is prior to the payment screen.

* I have no insider knowledge of LP's current financial situation, but it does look like they might be having some money problems. Maybe it's just talent problems. Either way, their cinematography quality has decreased noticeably, most scenes only feature one girl (which is cheaper for LP), and the customer service / communication with fans is less than it used to be. This all needs to be remedied. Easier said than done, I know. It will take some time. But LP needs to get started now on fixing this stuff.

* LP needs better stable camera talent. The current camera guy just isn't cutting it. If the quality of scenes has decreased as a result of Javier's split from LP, that's understandable, but LP needs to move to fix this, and soon.

* LP needs to contract guys like Cristian Clay and Ian Scott so they don't keep popping in and out of the studio. A month without Clay is a month without top quality performances. A stable crop of male performers would be very beneficial for LP. (And I know that we don't generally agree about which guys perform well and which don't, but contracting Clay is a no-brainer.)

* The old adage that time = money is not always true. Sometimes, time can be an investment. It would be smart for LP to invest more time in communicating with the fans and engaging the community. Keeping LP's install base loyal to the brand is important for long-term success. It's something that has always set LP apart from the competition; changing it would be foolish.

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Re: Random thoughts while downloads are down.

Postby dap-addict » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:06 am

evil-pineapples wrote:* I have no insider knowledge of LP's current financial situation, but it does look like they might be having some money problems. Maybe it's just talent problems. Either way, their cinematography quality has decreased noticeably, most scenes only feature one girl (which is cheaper for LP), and the customer service / communication with fans is less than it used to be. This all needs to be remedied. Easier said than done, I know. It will take some time. But LP needs to get started now on fixing this stuff.

Dont think they have money problems but too little communication people, bts people.
Given the fees they pay their studs girls are actually not a big payment problem, fees are often quite close actually.

A big problem, however, is the dried out talent pool in Prague and Budapest. Job options diversed dramatically since the late 90ties and a lot of young girls just emigrate rather than looking for any job at home. LP did a valid move ventering into Mexico and Columbia but they do have to find new hunting grounds also in Europe - or at least create a working bulk export link. EU abolished visas for some former Soviet republics or will soon do.
I hope they do have somebody looking into that!
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Re: Random thoughts while downloads are down.

Postby utopiaa » Mon Aug 04, 2014 2:06 am

there is no way any scene here has been sold 100k (or 1 million for that matter) times. If you think that you have no idea what the situation in porn world is at the moment. The values that are sold per scene is in thousands more realistically. I really think xxx is not making any money out of this site, but is loosing it. The question is if xxx wants to keep this site as "hobby" and put money on it or get bored of it eventually.


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