Alisia Wonderland (new 1.81m model)

[BlueShadow]

I still find so hilarious that first he "convince" (with the complicity of some agency that send girl to him, but in some case also some pimp send girl, not only agency, in that case he send the "well educated" girl to an agency of his trust, that not mention the anal availability) of course they know what he do and what he will try to do), btw he first "convinces" a girl to do anal in her very first scene then after he advises of not doing anal at the beginning LOL (only for his interests, not for the career of the models, which in fact are fucked up also professionally, everything is already on video and have already signed the model release, which being their first job, they don't know how it works for real, agencies should protect them, instead ...)
don't you find all this paradox very funny? Come on, let's laugh together.

[BlueShadow]

It's a shame what has been going on in Budapest for years with the agencies and their deals with this psicho. If there had been some unity in this biz, the other producers/companies should have already boycotted those shit agencies years ago...

Oh,someone who finds there is some logic in what I'm trying to say (or maybe the one that have read further).

[cesareljefe]

Porn should be about family. Like the saga fast and furious.

[BlueShadow]

Porn should be about family. Like the saga fast and furious.

You are more crazy than me. I like you.
XD

[Iddaoeeok]

Here's an idea. If you must talk about Woodman, and it seems you must, why don't you do it in the Woodman thread over in General Discussion instead of turning yet another model thread into a thread about Pierre Woodman? In fact, why don't you just go to Budapest and stalk him over there, if you're so in love with the guy?

[proxy001]

Here's an idea. If you must talk about Woodman, and it seems you must, why don't you do it in the Woodman thread over in General Discussion instead of turning yet another model thread into a thread about Pierre Woodman? In fact, why don't you just go to Budapest and stalk him over there, if you're so in love with the guy?

What you would talk more about this girl ? Tell us anything isn`t connected to PW....
Is here anybody said a bed word about this girl ?
Why she thinks that LP fans hate her ?
Is this a good start for her to think the fans of LP are against her ?

[robin_reid]

I still find so hilarious that first he "convince" (with the complicity of some agency that send girl to him, but in some case also some pimp send girl, not only agency, in that case he send the "well educated" girl to an agency of his trust, that not mention the anal availability) of course they know what he do and what he will try to do), btw he first "convinces" a girl to do anal in her very first scene then after he advises of not doing anal at the beginning LOL (only for his interests, not for the career of the models, which in fact are fucked up also professionally, everything is already on video and have already signed the model release, which being their first job, they don't know how it works for real, agencies should protect them, instead ...)
don't you find all this paradox very funny? Come on, let's laugh together.

Here the answer: “because the longer the time pass after him, bigger will be the check...”

For that reason one of those models she mention, Shona River, got paid a super big check from me when she decided came back to porn some months ago and I shot her for Firstanalquest. (Irony mode on)

It's really sad that some models believe these bullshits, and more sad that agencies collaborate in all these shitty deals with him.

[Iddaoeeok]

Here's an idea. If you must talk about Woodman, and it seems you must, why don't you do it in the Woodman thread over in General Discussion instead of turning yet another model thread into a thread about Pierre Woodman? In fact, why don't you just go to Budapest and stalk him over there, if you're so in love with the guy?

What you would talk more about this girl ? Tell us anything isn`t connected to PW....
Is here anybody said a bed word about this girl ?
Why she thinks that LP fans hate her ?
Is this a good start for her to think the fans of LP are against her ?

He's like coronavirus, he's slowly infecting the whole forum! A spell in quarantine in his own thread is the medical advice.

[robin_reid]

The psicho commented in his forum what I said about Shona, yes, I paid her what she asked, 600€, no matter if it was her 17 bga scene (I don’t care neither faq) and I wonder, where is the big check?? Its supposed that after him the check should be always big no matter if second anal scene or 50

Btw, Shona did an original LP scene, Luis and Chris D. shot her in my studio in Barcelona few days after my faq scene. Not all the LP scenes are shot in Cz studios.

[robin_reid]

Maybe for the french this is a DDF scene: https://www.legalporno.com/watch/47618/shona_river_rides_chris_diamond_s_huge_cock_sz2247

[BlueShadow]

Here's an idea. If you must talk about Woodman, and it seems you must, why don't you do it in the Woodman thread over in General Discussion instead of turning yet another model thread into a thread about Pierre Woodman? In fact, why don't you just go to Budapest and stalk him over there, if you're so in love with the guy?

What you would talk more about this girl ? Tell us anything isn`t connected to PW....
Is here anybody said a bed word about this girl ?
Why she thinks that LP fans hate her ?
Is this a good start for her to think the fans of LP are against her ?

We have nothing against her, alread said it, we are talking about the behavior of a professional producer and an agency.
There is nothing of her, hate of what?
Probably she is not even her saying those thing in that dictatorial forum,
especially if she is seriously a smart girl, she will have understood that we are not talking against her (indeed ..), but about a unclear system.


Anyway started making a list of the girls who thanks to the manipulative system (which is mainly to his advantage, why not admit it?) have been successful, but we could mention dozens and dozens of girls who didn't cared about his "advice" (or who they did not start with him) that were successful anyway, there are also girls who worked on LP but this did not prevent being booked everywhere and also for Tushy/blacked, a completely different style of production! Not make me do a list...), it all depends on the girls, if their are good performer, if they have fan etc. Already said it.
If you want to be a real pornstar doing anal isn't an obstacle.
But nowadays we have almost all girls in search of fast money and then disappear. They have not even the time and no desire of build something. And when the girls quit, he can say "exclusive anal". Well, thanks! XD (looks the anal exclusive of PW in the last 5 years, the majority are unkniw girls that have disappeared in 1 year, not real pornstar, and all the other not even exclusive. This system can't work like before with this new generation if you don't give a regular exclusive contract, like a true professional, like tushy, brazzers, etc. For this you need big money, so he prefer to act like the good grand-father without spending too much money for a real exclusivity and helped by agency that not mention anal in the model page of the girls (fooling other producers!), hoping that in the meantime (until the quit) the girls not have the time of doing others anal scene. And this is one of the reason his releasing time are so slow, he wait for what a girls do, if she fallen in the trap of holding back in doing others anal work (better pay) and when a girl is retired (because nowadays the majority, as I said, will retire in between 6 months - 1 year) he has the certainty of the stolen exclusivity (without real advantages of the girl, that should be protected before with a contract if you really want an exclusive from her, they are professionals.
Not using a shady business accord with an agency behind the back of girls.)


If then we want to make believe that only those who started with PW can be successful ...
But how many they did not care what he said and were successful anyway? How many have not started with him and have been successful?
Fact against another fact.
We are talking about nothing.

[BlueShadow]

I still find so hilarious that first he "convince" (with the complicity of some agency that send girl to him, but in some case also some pimp send girl, not only agency, in that case he send the "well educated" girl to an agency of his trust, that not mention the anal availability) of course they know what he do and what he will try to do), btw he first "convinces" a girl to do anal in her very first scene then after he advises of not doing anal at the beginning LOL (only for his interests, not for the career of the models, which in fact are fucked up also professionally, everything is already on video and have already signed the model release, which being their first job, they don't know how it works for real, agencies should protect them, instead ...)
don't you find all this paradox very funny? Come on, let's laugh together.

Here the answer: “because the longer the time pass after him, bigger will be the check...”

For that reason one of those models she mention, Shona River, got paid a super big check from me when she decided came back to porn some months ago and I shot her for Firstanalquest. (Irony mode on)

It's really sad that some models believe these bullshits, and more sad that agencies collaborate in all these shitty deals with him.

I can easily reply to his question: "but after been with the "circus" what is the future?"

Well, be booked by PW! (Like Arwen Gold, Selvaggia, Monika Wild, Lara Bunny, Siya Jey, Polina Maxim, better I stop....)
C'mon, too easy like that Pierre!! You are no more funny.

[BlueShadow]

Here's an idea. If you must talk about Woodman, and it seems you must, why don't you do it in the Woodman thread over in General Discussion instead of turning yet another model thread into a thread about Pierre Woodman? In fact, why don't you just go to Budapest and stalk him over there, if you're so in love with the guy?

you're right, but "proxy" is right too. Is a girl directly connected to PW it is inevitable that in the end we will talk about something else.

First of all I don't even know why this topic has been opened because there are no scenes of her and there is nothing to talk about her in the specific.

[BlueShadow]

What!? Speaking bad about her? Where?
We are speaking bad about you if we have to be clear, and more precisely of your subtle methods.
Blocking her doing things and scenes (like anal for instance) with help of an agency that should provide her more works, (not the contrary) not mention that she practically do anal (and dp)... She will lose a lot of potential works.
This manipulative system on the career of a model actually in the great majority of cases is always and only convenient to you, not to the model (much less to the fans) Who has no exclusive contract, loses jobs ... for nothing.

PS
And shut up please.
You can't wait to see her publishing photo of others (vanilla) shoot only for advertising more yourself and get hype for your anal/piss/DP shit. (and here another clear advantages for you, not for the model)
All is already planned in your mind.
(And if the girl retire in about 6months/1year (like most of the cases) without the chance to do other anal you are more than happy and better for you.)
But we are not all fools.

PPS
How do he know that she is fully booked? He is a seer or are the bookings organized and controlled in some way by him?

[BlueShadow]

We? What means we? It's a cooperative now? LOL
Maybe with WE she intend: her + with the approvation of PW. XD

[BlueShadow]

Poor girl, she can't escape now.


PS
Just to make sure, I disagree with the comment under the photo.


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I wonder what kind of business a girl like her do in Duress, Albania... I don't know and I don't think there are porn productions there, but... well, whatever...
Why she don't shoot some real scene in porn, since she says she is an adult model? Still nothing.
No one want offer work to her? C'mon, I don't believe it, she is beautiful. She was supposed to be a 'big star'. If she is in EU it's the time. Offer some anal, DP... oh, oops.


For this reason people should never immediately open topics of girls who start there, useless advertising, you never know what happens then and if they seriously become adult model / pornstar. But well...

[BlueShadow]

???

Thats why she was in Albania one week ago (photo above,for sure in holiday...maybe), here in Montenegro 4 days ago:


Good tanlines I have to say



The questions still remains, she is in EU, when she will shoot something? Since she is an adult model...the next star.
Happy if she still have the money of the 3-4 shooting she did with the french old producer, there had to be many, to do all these vacations and trips.

[BlueShadow]