Stop hitting women on the face.

[keithd3212]

Girls being OK with it and what girls enjoy most are different things... A few girls may actually like it but I'm confident the vast majority don't.

Just like most of the girls who do DAP are just OK with it instead of liking it.

[dap-addict]

I'd say our actors have a good sense of when it's okay to slap a girl's face or not. You just feel it when you have fucked countless girls. That's why you don't see it in every scene.

It can happen that things go too far but the model simply complains and the directors and actors adjust their attitude. Models know how to complain you don't have to worry about that. Our sets are quite light-hearted generally.

That being said some of you simply can't grasp the idea that someone can enjoy something you don't. I saw it many times (based on comments versus actual, direct model feedback) : a very personal, subjective, tailor-made idea of what's right and wrong.

I couldn't have said it better myself. +1000

Isnt that the core of it?
Shouldn't that close the discussion.
Hey, ppl, its a job these girls do after all!
Better they enjoy their job. But thats an overall sum of their 3-4h on an LP set, not based on certain acts some like more and some like less. And yes, its like DAP maybe, though other part of skin may get irritated. But than again, just as xxx sad.

+ 1

[dap-addict]

Btw, some good ol' pioneer day reference from 3,5y. ago, just to show you that consenting adults can have different fun, not only your's:

https://www.legalporno.com/watch/30054/sofi_goldfinger_fucked_by_4_massive_cocks_dp_ed_rs071

Ed and Chris are still in the boat but working for Luis now.
Sofi is a grown up happy women enjoying the mindful way of life, a lot into yoga but still meeting up with porn girls like a few weeks ago in Goa.
She lived her sexuality, SOS actually helped her free herself from traditional Russian confinements, she still lives what she needs and if sb slabs her while she's hot, so what?

[Ultra-Gape]

at first she looks so hard and unwilling.
you guys need to accept it as she does, or does someone needs to slap your face.

'At first'? That's all your gif shows. It demonstrates nothing but the negatives of face slapping that many here have mentioned.

By contrast I have seen the occasional scene with a girl and guy sort of competitively slapping each other back and forth which does manage to be hot, but these are very rare.

[Ultra-Gape]

This is ridiculous. If you don’t like it, DONT WATCH IT.

And what if people want to buy/watch a scene for all of the other excellent content, that generally is not widely available? If all scenes contain all types of content then it can get to a position where very few please everyone. As such it seems reasonable to me for directors to vary content, and then I think discussions like this are potentially useful, in possibly informing what sort of content to be more or less common.

[arrow666]

I love it!

That is not a slap, that is a face - slamming! For that I would beat up the mother fu..er! Or, ok, I agree that he can slap or slam her but only provided that for every hit fro him, the girl would fight back as follows: for every slap, the girl should slam him 5 times his arrogant face; for every slam to her face, he should receive 10 face-slams from the girl + 5 brutal kicks in his stomach, then I would ask him - is it a good thing slamming a girl's face?!. I think is fair like that, so pls guys lease more support to my oppinion, thanks!

[arrow666]

what is a bitch to do, when she caches another bitch fucking her man
slap that bitches face, of course

What the fuck is that! How is possible that someone would enjoy that!? Disgusting! How at all scenes like that are produced! I would beat up the prodecer of that with a clear conscience

[Iddaoeeok]

Are any of you hysterical guys aware that rough sex is a thing that exists out there in the real world?

My own opinion is I'm neither for it or against it, it depends on the context and the participants. It can be hot when it's spontaneous and about passion and lust, when it's contrived and just stuck in there regardless of context - which unfortunately does happen in LP scenes a lot - then it doesn't interest me. I don't think the LP environment is in any way an abusive one for the girls who work there so, even where the girls don't enjoy it, I don't think they will be permanently scarred by the experience, I'm sure they will survive. Personally, if you were to ask me whether I would prefer a slap in the face to having someone piss in my mouth, I know what I'd choose

[dap-addict]

I love it!

That is not a slap, that is a face - slamming! For that I would beat up the mother fu..er! Or, ok, I agree that he can slap or slam her but only provided that for every hit fro him, the girl would fight back as follows: for every slap, the girl should slam him 5 times his arrogant face; for every slam to her face, he should receive 10 face-slams from the girl + 5 brutal kicks in his stomach, then I would ask him - is it a good thing slamming a girl's face?!. I think is fair like that, so pls guys lease more support to my oppinion, thanks!

Huh, another self-proclaimed women defender understanding nothing about neither sex nor porn!
Or is it all about Mike Angelo, one of the most liked and most passionate porn studs by the girls, but one of the most hated by users with a faint glamour soft fantasy heart?

[Dudemeister]

I actually like it. I think it's hot when a girl gets face slapped during anal. BUT of course she must be into it, too - or at least be ok with it. And I'd guess that's the case in all of LP scenes.

[dap-addict]

BUT of course she must be into it, too - or at least be ok with it. And I'd guess that's the case in all of LP scenes.

As xxx said there is a save word for all LP girls in every scene and girls know it.
Of course we have the case of Florane vs. Potro. She actually wasnt happy with his slapping attitude but couldn't or wouldn't stop him in her 1st LP scene. What made it worse was she had the feeling he wanted to prevent to enjoy herself! Thats bad vibes of course! Anyway, all was sorted out once she talke with the director and actor involved. Its known she's not into it and they dont slap her. Unless she wants it.
Thats how it works at LP!

[JayJams]

And what if people want to buy/watch a scene for all of the other excellent content, that generally is not widely available? If all scenes contain all types of content then it can get to a position where very few please everyone.

There is this magical thing on any video player called a slide bar. You click it and some how it magically lets you move the video forward (or backwards) a couple of seconds, or minutes!! I know crazy right!!?? I couldn't believe it either the first time myself, I thought it was some kind of wizardry!!!

I dont like feet stuff, so my favorite porn actress(es) who's scene(s) I bought, starts jerking some guy off with her foot, or some guy sticks a foot in her ass...know what I do? I FUCKING FORWARD THE SCENE PAST THAT MOMENT!! HOLY SHIT! WHAT A MARVEL OF SCIENCE!! I don't bitch & whine and cry about it all day like some of you.

As far as the rest of you that think, one particular action in porn is vile & humiliating, to women, and or want to be some kind of New Era Porn SJW's,then what the fuck are you doing watching porn in general!?

Some of the ones declaring slapping is horrible or degrading, are some of the same ones asking, Where's the piss? Where's the cum on the face? Where's the prolapse? Where's the DAP, TAP, TPPPGPKL? LOL Pain or no pain, all of that is OK with you though? That's not humiliating or degrading to you? I know, I know, some of you ding dongs are going to say but, but, its consensual, the girl loves it, but then on slapping which is just as consensual as the other acts, NO NO NO HORRIBLE!! There was some slapping for all of 15 seconds in half hour movie OH NO"S !!!!!!!!! It's ruined!!

You're on one of the more extreme porn websites, on the internet, and then want to complain something is extreme!....Some of you are really asinine!

[dap-addict]

I dont like feet stuff, so my favorite porn actress(es) who's scene(s) I bought, starts jerking some guy off with her foot, or some guy sticks a foot in her ass...know what I do? I FUCKING FORWARD THE SCENE PAST THAT MOMENT!! HOLY SHIT! WHAT A MARVEL OF SCIENCE!!

Slapping is a bit more difficult, though.
Its rather an attitude thing and it happens all the time usually and often together with a fave sex act for instance.

Problem is I think that some users have a very romantic concept of sex in private it seems, I mean if you ever had some wild passionate sex you know it can get pretty *hittin"* so to say.
Add some porn antiques and you have what we often get. And believe it, its nothing against women, rather the other way round!
I think better option that proposing <FF> for this special problem is an attitude change, learning to accept that other folks have another sexuality, another pain level... and also that they are playing roles, doing a job after all. Tolerance to sum it up!

[JayJams]

Tolerance to sum it up!

Agree.

Problem is I think that some users have a very romantic concept of sex in private it seems, I mean if you ever had some wild passionate sex you know it can get pretty *hittin"* so to say.

Yes, but then why are the deciding to come to LP (and it's sub studios) of all places, for their porn. Would you (not you specifically) join a knitting club, and then complain that there are too many old ladies talking about their grandchildren & cats?

[Ultra-Gape]

There is this magical thing on any video player called a slide bar. You click it and some how it magically lets you move the video forward (or backwards) a couple of seconds, or minutes!! I know crazy right!!?? I couldn't believe it either the first time myself, I thought it was some kind of wizardry!!!

I never like to skip any part of a scene, and like scenes with as few edits as possible. I want to watch something that as much as possible 'tricks' me into believing I'm somehow there. Using my TV remote (I don't watch on PC) to skip sections destroys this immersion.

[cityslicker890]

As xxx said there is a save word for all LP girls in every scene and girls know it.
Of course we have the case of Florane vs. Potro. She actually wasnt happy with his slapping attitude but couldn't or wouldn't stop him in her 1st LP scene.


What scene are you referring to? Florane vs. Potro

[TheVulture]

Of course we have the case of Florane vs. Potro. She actually wasnt happy with his slapping attitude but couldn't or wouldn't stop him in her 1st LP scene. What made it worse was she had the feeling he wanted to prevent to enjoy herself! Thats bad vibes of course!

And what if there are girls out there who have gone through the exact same but are less inclined than Florane to speak up? Do you think this is a possibility?

It seems odd for the purposes of this discussion to assume the degree of response from and ability/willingness to speak up by a girl to be an absolute constant.

[teammelee15]

Im all about light-medium chocking/abuse. More so if its girl on girl doing it. F#ck all the haters it adds to the scene I say. If anything it's not done enough....Yall are a bunch of pussy's

[dap-addict]

Of course we have the case of Florane vs. Potro. She actually wasnt happy with his slapping attitude but couldn't or wouldn't stop him in her 1st LP scene. What made it worse was she had the feeling he wanted to prevent to enjoy herself! Thats bad vibes of course!

And what if there are girls out there who have gone through the exact same but are less inclined than Florane to speak up? Do you think this is a possibility?

It seems odd for the purposes of this discussion to assume the degree of response from and ability/willingness to speak up by a girl to be an absolute constant.

Florane was completely new to LP.
All girls are clearly instructed about the safe word practice, too!
With Florane it also was more of a personal issue between her and Potro. It could easily get solved. But yes, she needed our support amogst others. Its a case showing exactly how the forum can help both sides instead of being a one-way-road.

Now what I concede is that Florane went to LP for work already as a grown up women with lots of life experience. It actually may be more difficult for girl 1o years younger than hers. But than that generation is much more outspoken on the other hand. They just communicate into the face! Whatever, you have different RL stories behind such career choices. The more important is a clear safe word instruction and actors and directors actually listening very attentively on set. Luis for sure is one of these, Giorgio is, Dylan is etc.

What I sort of hear in your posts, Vulture, is often a vanilla-iced picture of porn and RL sex. I think it can get both much more intense and more varied. But I am glad you contest our views and make us think. And I sure would support an extra talk with really young rookie actresses.

[blublubeacha]

anal sex is painful too sometimes. but anal is essential in lp scenes. no anal no buy for me.

unless the woman is really gorgeous

[TheVulture]

If Florane was completely new to LP when she spoke out about something she didn't like then more power to her.

It still does not automatically follow that all porn girls - whether new to LP or not - will do the same.

If you look at modern porn compared to that of 15-20 years ago you will see that face slapping and throat grabbing have increased exponentially in this period to the extent that whilst 15-20 years ago you would hardly ever see it, now you hardly ever get a scene without it. That either means that there is a new generation of porn girls who almost exclusively like it or that it is simply something that has evolved completely outside of their control. To me - and again I am basing this on the "eye test" as I am not a porn insider - the latter instinctively seems more more likely.

Anal content has also increased exponentially in this time, many of you will say, and you will be correct. But this doesn't in any way prove that additional anal content must be facilitated by face slapping and throat grabbing. Porn like everything else evolves in numerous different ways and directions, some good, some bad, some inter-linked, some not. I have no problem with rough porn but not an ounce of respect for the idea that roughness is an essential element of hard porn and that those who don't favour it must simply like it or lump it, which is at best lazy and at worst a tacit acceptance of and excuse for blatant misogyny.

[Iddaoeeok]

'Blatant misogyny'. Getting a bit carried away there, aren't we?

[Dominator]

Keep slapping ‘em in the face. It’s hot

[JayJams]

Using my TV remote (I don't watch on PC) to skip sections destroys this immersion.

Funny, I hardly ever watch porn on a television anymore, you got me there. Also I don't know where my remote to my TV is half the time, so I guess I understand a bit.

[arrow666]

To all girl-slapping lovers - I want to see girls slapping and slamming males' faces, how about that?

[Evil_Del]

Oh god, politically correct feminist cunts have invaded Legal Porno's forum of all places.
How sad this world has become

[dap-addict]

+ 1

Its not even feminist (sic!!!), but pseudo-feminist self-proclaimed paternalistic women saviors.
Disclaimer. This is not for Vulture! But many of those other voices, his a bit, too. But at least if not carried away by so called 'misogynist' claims he's good reasoning basically.
And finally misogyny - better give them girls their sexuality on the safe ground of a porn set back!

[blublubeacha]

we don't need that shit. that's all. it isn't erotic for some of us. end. good day/night whaterver

[dap-addict]

I party agree.
Depends largely how its done and shown in those LP films.
But thats nothing to do with misogyny and paternalistic fake feminism arguments!
Btw, sb remember Marco del Torro? US director for RLD or PXP starting this trend around 10-15y ago?
That was controversy than, but now porn moved on!

[Iddaoeeok]

I'm not even into slapping that much, to be honest, but some of the arguments against it on this thread are verging on the hysterical. I assume that all the anti-slapping crusaders are also against the girls prolapsing - which is potentially physically much more harmful - or having groups of men pissing in girls' faces, mouths, eyes - which is more degrading and humiliating in my opinion.

[Dominator]

I party agree.
Depends largely how its done and shown in those LP films.
But thats nothing to do with misogyny and paternalistic fake feminism arguments!
Btw, sb remember Marco del Torro? US director for RLD or PXP starting this trend around 10-15y ago?
That was controversy than, but now porn moved on!

Rocco's been slapping women in the face since the 90's. He's the originator of so much of what is mainstream in porn today. A lot of the male performers at LP are his proteges (Chris Diamond, Christian Clay, Markus Dupree, Kid Jamaica, etc.) Rocco is the real trend-setter.

[dap-addict]

Yep, right, I forgot Rocco of course.
Rocco is main Euro reference.
Del Torro is US reference.
I rather thought of the controversy. Rocco style hardcore anal is accepted widely since around 2000. I mean its clear he doesn't hate women, on the contrary!

[JayJams]

To all girl-slapping lovers - I want to see girls slapping and slamming males' faces, how about that?

Awesome!! How about that!

I'm not even into slapping that much, to be honest, but some of the arguments against it on this thread are verging on the hysterical. I assume that all the anti-slapping crusaders are also against the girls prolapsing - which is potentially physically much more harmful - or having groups of men pissing in girls' faces, mouths, eyes - which is more degrading and humiliating in my opinion.

Exhibit A (taken from the "Prolapse Madness" thread):

Come on, LP, make the next crazy prolapse video , thanks

Prime example of one of the morons. Against slapping (it is wrong degrading, humiliating, pain), but is all for other forms of degrading humiliating acts. I really don't like to name call, but you're either the worlds greatest troll, or half a retard! Which is it!?

Arrow666 was almost banned once already, and had most of your pointless idiotic posts/threads deleted by XXX (all of which constantly have to do with slapping). But you keep it up. You think once a scene ends, that all the huge gapes & prolapses you enjoy so much don't have some pain and after effects after the scene!? I guess once the scene ends you don't give a shit then. Thing is Arrow I don't give a shit what you like, or anyone for that matter, but once you start rattling off at what others SHOULD like, or what shouldn't be shown because YOU don't like it, well then fuck off!

[Petra]

If I can say a word at this topic, personally I like it... turns me on and better the sex is, I feel less pain and more passion instead.. and as far as I know from my girl - friends.. .more girls are like me... they just dont have right guy for it or they dont know how to ask for it... Not sayin that everybody is like this... But if the girl dont like it, guys dont do it...

[Anthokent]

More face slapping please:D

+1,000,000

[dap-addict]

If I can say a word at this topic, personally I like it... turns me on and better the sex is, I feel less pain and more passion instead.. and as far as I know from my girl - friends.. .more girls are like me... they just dont have right guy for it or they dont know how to ask for it... Not sayin that everybody is like this... But if the girl dont like it, guys dont do it...

Oh, Petra, you are busting some user and self proclaimed porn girl defenders dreams.
And you do that as gonzo's main set organizer, even worse blow for them.
Us fellow fans they didnt believe, but you they maybe have to.

[SimplyStunning]

Joining the chorus. There's a market for anything I suppose, but for me face slapping is an instant mood killer.

+1

If I can say a word at this topic, personally I like it... turns me on and better the sex is, I feel less pain and more passion instead.. and as far as I know from my girl - friends.. .more girls are like me... they just dont have right guy for it or they dont know how to ask for it... Not sayin that everybody is like this... But if the girl dont like it, guys dont do it...

Oh, Petra, you are busting some user and self proclaimed porn girl defenders dreams.
And you do that as gonzo's main set organizer, even worse blow for them.
Us fellow fans they didnt believe, but you they maybe have to.

I think that is dumbest thing you have ever said @dap-addict, so you use one person opinion to try shout over all other opinion. It is stupid, it doesn't matter whether Petra is Gonzo main organizer as you proclaim. That is simply her single opinion and Petra talking for some of her friends but she clearly says it is not everybody. I hope they don't misconstrue the sales gains with face slapping though. Also back to Petra comment no quantity reference point is even given for you to act like the debate is over and you won, how many friends is she talking about 1,2,3 or 10 who knows. People are simply stating what they like and don't like. It is now up to LP to do whatever they feel like doing with the information. Also the underhanded dig at US customers is funny because it doesn't make any sense. You don't know where the dissent is coming from is your assumption again making an ass out of yourself. Plus you make Euro fans look like they are stupid as hell with comments like this as if they all think the same. No capacity for individual thoughts just a monolithic thought pattern all thinking like you, what a sorry day for the continent

[pornseeker101]

Seriously its very ugly and stupid.

Smack the ass instead.

100% agree. Unfortunately, you can't say if a woman has a fetish for that or not.
But even if she has - I am not watching degrading stuff. Just not my thing.

A smack on the ass instead....

[dap-addict]

I think that is dumbest thing you have ever said @dap-addict, so you use one person opinion to try shout over all other opinion.

My opinion? Whats my opinion here according to you than, SiStu?
I think we have to separate two things here: 1) what do women feel when hit in face during sex and do porn users have to defend them? 2) Do we enjoy LP depicted slapping during sex?

[dap-addict]

edit: Petra answered question 1, btw.