Girls abandoned by producers!!!

[Homo*_*Eroticus]

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[dap-addict]

Most cases its either lack of sales, too high fees or on-set manners in a broader sense.
Don't know Ellen Betsy's case, though.

[dap-addict]

edit: Re-booked by GIO, thus all ok with her work ethics.
Maybe she was out for some time?
Maybe some doubtful non-porn activities...
Anyway, I feel sad for her wanting to perform more but not getting porn work. She may be a victim im this years US import policy, though. There is just limited number of shooting slots.

[xxx]

Most cases its either lack of sales, too high fees or on-set manners in a broader sense.
Don't know Ellen Betsy's case, though.

This.

But I would add 2 more :

Over the years, there are so many models to keep track of, that we may forget about some of them for real so reminders are always welcome.

And, even though we have some pretty good tools to help evaluate them, model selection is not perfect because we have more users now and growing so newer models tend to have higher ratings (pushing down older models that may deserve "revisiting").

[Giorgio Grandi]

Producers do forget of some models, specially who doesn’t sell very well and who doesn’t sell very poor. “Middle level models” than maybe can increase their rank. I should create myself a tool for this.

The main issue if that “model agencies” don’t the the job (mean to take care of remind a producer about a model, her new look, send me pictures, etc).

[drevokocur66]

If producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.

[Angel Eyes]

If producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.

As I see it the 'product' is the girl. Ultimately, the agency should be doing a better job of promoting their models... After all, isn't that the purpose of having agency representation and giving them a cut when a model works? Takes some of the stress off of the model finding jobs and having to promote herself.

[dap-addict]

Problem is there is hardly any good agencies left anymore.
Social Network hunters have destroyed that market, too.
Its all effects of broadband internet and lacking work ethics.

[magizi877]

Personally, I got tired of requesting models.

It felt like talking to a wall.

DPconnoisseur still does it.
And many others who are more perseverant than me. lol

I think it would be very helpful to us, the fans, that producers
diligently speak when they agree with our request for a model and do call her,
but for some reason they couldn't book her. The specifics can remain a secret.

Or that they are not going to try because her previous scenes underperformed. Or whatever.

But there needs to be some communication between fans and producers.

There needs to be a middle ground where we know we are being listened to.

[magizi877]

I forgot to mention that Petra managed to get MIna back,
probably because her model thread is disproportionately popular compared to her old scene count, 2 scenes.

And now that she is back, she was a sales success.

I THINK if you listen to the fans most of your scenes will be a sales success.

We are basically telling you what we want to buy. lol

[xxx]

Personally, I got tired of requesting models.

It felt like talking to a wall.

DPconnoisseur still does it.
And many others who are more perseverant than me. lol

I think it would be very helpful to us, the fans, that producers
diligently speak when they agree with our request for a model and do call her,
but for some reason they couldn't book her. The specifics can remain a secret.

Or that they are not going to try because her previous scenes underperformed. Or whatever.

But there needs to be some communication between fans and producers.

There needs to be a middle ground where we know we are being listened to.

We avoid acknowledging it because you know people like Woodman would pull out their entire catalog of fake "proofs" (like the recently 100% fabricated Whatsapp discussion with himself posing as Mina) and focus on these models to prevent them from coming here.

[magizi877]

That makes sense, for models who are yet to work for LP.

But it kinda doesn't for models who have been here before.

I used to mostly request LP to bring models back. As in they know LP.
And are probably less inclined to believe lies from PW about LP (Hopefully)



I mean, why not give PM a try,

remember that guy who kept requesting Suzie Q? the one from Russia, scouted by SOS?
he kept requesting her dutifully for years!

Ah simple message "we tried and it didn't worked out" would have probably helped.

[dpconnoisseur1]

LOL Yeah, I remember that guy too! He was committed to Suzie Q too. As for myself I just will keep asking and hope the model shows back up I gave up on acknowledgement by LP a long time ago.

[kidloco2]

Personally, I got tired of requesting models.

It felt like talking to a wall.

DPconnoisseur still does it.
And many others who are more perseverant than me. lol

I think it would be very helpful to us, the fans, that producers
diligently speak when they agree with our request for a model and do call her,
but for some reason they couldn't book her. The specifics can remain a secret.

Or that they are not going to try because her previous scenes underperformed. Or whatever.

But there needs to be some communication between fans and producers.

There needs to be a middle ground where we know we are being listened to.

We avoid acknowledging it because you know people like Woodman would pull out their entire catalog of fake "proofs" (like the recently 100% fabricated Whatsapp discussion with himself posing as Mina) and focus on these models to prevent them from coming here.

xxx, he's a cancer to not only LP. Interesting is he gets so many even uknown girls to do anal for him in contrast
with LP where if a girl has a chance to shoot for you and her sales are not the best, she has no other chance. Take Kizzy Sixx for example.

[JohnnyMcSpunkencock]

Every man and his dog seems to be following me on [spam] for a long time now so when I retweet things that are either brand new or not been seen for a while, it almost 100% appears on a forum post within hours. It's all good, mostly, although sometimes some folk are a wee bit too hasty to start a thread for a babe who I've not long followed.

Aside, when I saw Ellen's tweet yesterday I gathered it would be as simple as just retweeting it. And it was

[Iddaoeeok]

A shame if Ellen can't get any work she's absolutely gorgeous.

[Homo*_*Eroticus]

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[drevokocur66]

If producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.

As I see it the 'product' is the girl. Ultimately, the agency should be doing a better job of promoting their models... After all, isn't that the purpose of having agency representation and giving them a cut when a model works? Takes some of the stress off of the model finding jobs and having to promote herself.

[dap-addict]

Right, drevokocur66, but most agencies are not working anymore really.
In social network age girls have to promote themselves, too.
And fans sure do a good thing reminding studios of girls.

[dap-addict]

Btw, Ellen Betsy is from Dec 15th in Bp on porn work tour.
She has at least two agencies claimed to be amongst the best remaining in Europe.
Looks like she doesn't trust them. Or her tweet is just to help get her schedule full really.

[drevokocur66]

If producers are not calling, you need to better yourself. Just like any other business, your product needs to be wanted. There is competition and you need to compete.

As I see it the 'product' is the girl. Ultimately, the agency should be doing a better job of promoting their models... After all, isn't that the purpose of having agency representation and giving them a cut when a model works? Takes some of the stress off of the model finding jobs and having to promote herself.

Agencies work with what they have. Even the shiniest turd, is still a turd. At the end of the day, it is your job to better yourself. Work on your looks, learn new skills, be eager and willing to try new ones. If you have a niche, exploit it. Make yourself pleasant and easy to work with. Strive to communicate and network with others. If people like working with you, they will let others know. I think Monika Wild is a fantastic example. She worked extremely hard on herself, and it paid off. Not all girls are fuckable out of the box, most have to put in a lot of work. Most producers will shoot a girl if she is new, but after that, you need to offer more. Make yourself wanted.

[kidloco2]

And, even though we have some pretty good tools to help evaluate them, model selection is not perfect because we have more users now and growing so newer models tend to have higher ratings (pushing down older models that may deserve "revisiting").

That's very good point! Have to say especially in the model threads the amount of suggestions is overwhelming.

[kidloco2]

Let's pour a new glass of wine - girls are looking for work by themselves for YEARS!

[9lovinlon]

If LP shoots scenes with Ellen Betsy, I'll be first in the queue to buy them.

[marcoB]

Producers do forget of some models, specially who doesn’t sell very well and who doesn’t sell very poor.

Could have other reasons than thought

I am a customer for years...but i don't buy scenes where the girls are wearing clothes and shoes during the shoot !! I avoid them! Porn is not a fashion show! It's fine to introduce girls with lingerie, but during the sex i want to see the full body, her feet....everything! So LP missed hundred of sales (!) just from me!

And as i have seens some girls were only filmed with clothes...! And my friends think about this the same....

[VBT_2]

remember that guy who kept requesting Suzie Q? the one from Russia, scouted by SOS?

Lot of guys actually (me included ), but you talk about Teschio.

BTW, that question must be in forum's top 5 most frenquently asked & unanswered.

[kidloco2]

wtf? My precious post has disappeared?

[kidloco2]

Here's a little list of "abandoned" girls I think might be worth re-evaluate:


Afina Kisser
Alexxa Vice
Alysha Rage
Angel Karyna
Annie Wolf
Ashley Woods
Becky Berry (retired?)
Bree Haze (not really, but almost)
Cara Wolf
Carla Rosa (France)
Di Devi
Eloa Lombard
Helena Moeller
Jessi Empera
July Sun
Kate Sottile (retired?)
Kathy Anderson (no more anal?)
Kiara Gold
Lady Bug
Lyen Parker
Mila Milan
Nicolette Noir (she made comeback recently)
Nikky Dream
Rossella Visconti
Sara Ray (Spain)
Susana Melo
Suzie Sun (retired?)
Tatiana Swank
Venus Hills (retired?)
Vittoria Dolce