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"New" Ticket Program

Postby twistedvincent » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:26 am

First off let me say once again that though I loathe the male talent @ legalporno, the girls are top shelf, that's why I just purchased 120 new tickets.
However, even though I have NO time for kreme, farting, and other such scenes, the cost of access to the scenes I enjoy eg. hardcore climax, anal babe series, new girls gape, and especially piss my ass off is VERY cost prohibitive. I'm not a porn leech and pay half the amount for such sites as Jules Jordan, Brazzers and Evil Angel. I mean I bought a year of downloading ANY and EVERYTHING from Evil Angel for less than I've paid for 3 months of legalporno + tickets......and I download a LOT from Evil Angel. And if I may add that despite legalporno's well justified efforts to minimize piracy, I can get pretty much any scene, any time for free...but I don't believe in that. Hence my extending my membership.....

Please consider the loyalty of you're paying customers and consider something more fair when it comes to legalporno's fees.

Once again, I fucking LOVE this site, but the fee's/charges have become too high.

For a site to charge this much I would expect a comprehensive list of female/male performers, not "X" as is listed in many scenes.

Example: Anal Babe Series - Starring
Piss My Ass Off - Starring
Not just: #2985 Hardcore Climax - Billy Star

I want a LOT more order in a site I pay good money for. It's not too much to ask
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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby utopiaa » Wed Jan 01, 2014 3:11 am

I really don't understand the cost being too high. if you buy the 3month membership it cost 0,485 € per ticket. So even if scene cost 4 tickets its under 2 euros a scene. Very few scenes cost 4 tickets and the average price is like 2-2,5 tickets so about 1 euro.

Evil Angel is a pretty good site, and of course if you only sub for 30 days couple times a year and download all the scenes during that time it becomes pretty cheap, but even there you cant get scenes like these. If you stay subbed on Evii Angel all the time you get maybe what 10-15 anal scenes a month and most likely you wont like all of them. so lets say you like 10 of the anal scenes, makes you about 1 euro a scene too then. And Evil Angel is prob the best site out there, Jules Jordan etc dont update that often as them. Sites like EverythingButt etc update once a week so with 30 days sub it cost 7,5 euro a scene and price going down a bit if you buy longer memberships. Then there is a risk there comes scene you don't like and it is money "wasted"

With membership to LP you get access to pretty good back catalog too which are free with membership.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby bundeswehr » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:30 am

utopiaa wrote:I really don't understand the cost being too high. if you buy the 3month membership it cost 0,485 € per ticket. So even if scene cost 4 tickets its under 2 euros a scene. Very few scenes cost 4 tickets and the average price is like 2-2,5 tickets so about 1 euro.

Evil Angel is a pretty good site, and of course if you only sub for 30 days couple times a year and download all the scenes during that time it becomes pretty cheap, but even there you cant get scenes like these. If you stay subbed on Evii Angel all the time you get maybe what 10-15 anal scenes a month and most likely you wont like all of them. so lets say you like 10 of the anal scenes, makes you about 1 euro a scene too then. And Evil Angel is prob the best site out there, Jules Jordan etc dont update that often as them. Sites like EverythingButt etc update once a week so with 30 days sub it cost 7,5 euro a scene and price going down a bit if you buy longer memberships. Then there is a risk there comes scene you don't like and it is money "wasted"

With membership to LP you get access to pretty good back catalog too which are free with membership.


THE COSTS ARE TOO HIGH. Period. No matters how you cut it.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby utopiaa » Wed Jan 01, 2014 5:29 am

How can it be too high if they are cheaper than other porn sites? Maybe you should sign on Videobox if this is too expensive. You guys really think they could release this many scenes if there was fixed monthly cost?

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 8:27 am

I think the problem before was their content was practically being given away for free! Once you get used to free its hard to want to pay for it. I think the pricing is right now and it allows them to concentrate on what their customers really want to see. The website problems will always be a point of controversy but we would be lying to ourselves if we really think these prices are too high. I don't work for LP and sure criticize them enough when things go wrong but just for my curiosity what sites are you talking about that gives comparable content to LP that is cheaper. I would really want to know this as a consumer. I've been watching porn for many years and have never found a site like this! The comparable site would have to release at least:
1 - 7+ anal scenes a week
2 - multiple DP scenes a week
3 - multiple pissing scenes a week
4 - 1 or 2 cream scenes a week
5 - no vanilla, vaginal scenes only a week
6 - only 1 or 2 boring lez scenes only a week
7 - all gorgeous models

PLEASE IF YOU KNOW OF ONE THAT IS CHEAPER PLEASE PASS IT ALONG
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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby bundeswehr » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:00 am

utopiaa wrote:How can it be too high if they are cheaper than other porn sites? Maybe you should sign on Videobox if this is too expensive. You guys really think they could release this many scenes if there was fixed monthly cost?


I do have a membership at videobox, one at 21sextury and one at brazzers. I will renew 21sextury and maybe brazzers, not VB and definitely bot LP because of breach of contract in my opinion and pricing. LP has the best material but it is priced too high. The market will force either the other sites to deliver comparable material and LP will have to come to a realistic price level in time.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby bundeswehr » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:03 am

bundeswehr wrote:
utopiaa wrote:How can it be too high if they are cheaper than other porn sites? Maybe you should sign on Videobox if this is too expensive. You guys really think they could release this many scenes if there was fixed monthly cost?


I do have a membership at videobox, one at 21sextury and one at brazzers. I will renew 21sextury and maybe brazzers, not VB and definitely bot LP because of breach of contract in my opinion and pricing. LP has the best material but it is priced too high. The market will force either the other sites to deliver comparable material and LP will have to come to a realistic price level in time.


There is nothing that is comparable to LP content that is cheaper in my experience. That does not mean that it should be priced sky high suddenly, breaking existing purchased memberships. Once a membership expires, it can be renewed at different terms, not before.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby sifux » Wed Jan 01, 2014 12:48 pm

bundeswehr wrote:There is nothing that is comparable to LP content that is cheaper in my experience. That does not mean that it should be priced sky high suddenly.


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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby Sir Noel » Wed Jan 01, 2014 2:16 pm

I was, at one point, a little concerned that prices were going to inflate unreasonably but thus far I have few complaints. Having recently 'reloaded I noted my 120tickets came in at only £34 rather than the £48 they had charged for renewal previously.
I am happy with that. That said, neither you nir I can dictate whether the site is too expensive, it is the market that decides. If they priced membership at a million euros per ticket and attracted one taker then clearly, from a business perspective, that would not be too expensive.
They need to find the balance point beteen the revenue they generate per membership and how many people they put off with their pricing. I get the feeling that they are perhaps not that interested in attracting the el cheapo videobox brigade because to do sojust makes implementing their beloved security measures that much more difficult (and pirated copies of their scenes that much more easily available)

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Wed Jan 01, 2014 4:58 pm

I still don't understand the sky high pricing comment ? The most inexpensive membership is $30 dollars which gets you about 9 - 17 (real average about 11) new scenes and anything over a year old free. Using the average of 11 scenes that slightly under $3.00 a scene and that is for very specific fetish content. Going by customer above If they really like the LP content no other sites offer the fetishes as frequently in one place with beautiful women we have scene. For instance in December:

LegalPorno.com - 67 anal themed, including 20 DPs
21Sextury.com - 18 anal themed scenes including 2 DPs, good scenes but lack LP intensity
Brazzers.com - 15 anal themed, no DPs and only about 3-5 comparable to LP stuff!
Videobox - who cares not original content and mostly older stuff

*** all for the same price of LP unless you catch a special they are running. No brainer for me to keep my LP membership! I might not be able to download all 67 anal themed scenes in my monthly membership because its priced to allow around 11 scenes download but I have choice and can pick and choose. If I want more scenes I can always buy more and if I'm strapped for cash I can bring lunch instead of buying for another 5 scene purchase or skip Starbucks coffee for another 2 scene purchase! ***

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby Sir Noel » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:17 pm

I can understand the claim, dp, because you are not quite comparing how these memberships usually run.
I joined julesjordan two months ago and, for one months membership, downloaded the 18 months worth of material since my last membership.
I think these sites have next to no expectation of rolling monthly memberships, hence why brazzers discounts annual membership so heavily (very good value tbh, especially with the fantastic streaming app in 720p to my phone and tablet)

This is not possible with LP. If you waited six months you'd need about 5 monthly memberships of tickets to catch up. That is the price difference right there.

Still, you gets what yer pays for and if these guys would be happy to simply go through the motions the way these other sites do, just to make things cheaper, then i have to set my face against them: that is the very last thing i want to see. This site is a bit different; a bit special and that costs.

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Postby Sir Noel » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:23 pm

PS: i dispute your maths. I reloaded my minthly account, 120 tickets for £34 (hey seem to offer a discount for reloading now). That is less than $60 and probably averages about a dollar a scene! I think that is absolutely reasonable. It will still not be cheap enough for some but £20k would still be too expensive to entice me to buy a ferrari - you would have to give your shit away with free blow jobs to not have someone somewhere complaining.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby bundeswehr » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:54 pm

utopiaa wrote:How can it be too high if they are cheaper than other porn sites? Maybe you should sign on Videobox if this is too expensive. You guys really think they could release this many scenes if there was fixed monthly cost?


LP is slowly ratcheting up the cost of videos in "tickets" by making each video from 1.5 tickets to 3.5 tickets worth. If no one puts a stop to it, what is to stop them for making each video 6-10 tickets worth ?

Would you feel comfortable then ?

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Postby bundeswehr » Wed Jan 01, 2014 10:58 pm

sirnoelplum wrote:PS: i dispute your maths. I reloaded my minthly account, 120 tickets for £34 (hey seem to offer a discount for reloading now). That is less than $60 and probably averages about a dollar a scene! I think that is absolutely reasonable. It will still not be cheap enough for some but £20k would still be too expensive to entice me to buy a ferrari - you would have to give your shit away with free blow jobs to not have someone somewhere complaining.


I am logged in and have the options:

10 tickets $12.90 Buy
20 tickets $23.90 Buy
30 tickets $37.90 Buy
50 tickets $59.90 Buy
100 tickets $99.90 Buy
250 tickets $219.90

That makes each scene about more than $2 on the average. I do have a Ferrari 308 and a Pantera L and do not like these shenanigans.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby Sir Noel » Thu Jan 02, 2014 12:29 am

They are direct ticket purchases. Go to the 'members area' and click the 'reload tickets' button instead. Much much better value.

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Postby bundeswehr » Thu Jan 02, 2014 1:31 am

sirnoelplum wrote:They are direct ticket purchases. Go to the 'members area' and click the 'reload tickets' button instead. Much much better value.



No such option available as far as I can see.

Personal section

Go to my box (Download Area)
My Account info

Membership:
Gift membership (Suspended)

Unlimited FREE downloads expires 25 January 2014

You have 0.21 premium tickets.
See here how to use download tickets.
Gallery: 1 Level
Gallery expires at 25 January 2014 .

Going from a different screen:

You have 0.2 tickets(?) recharge
Your membership expires 25 Jan 2014
Support

Clicking on recharge:

Direct ticket purchase

10 tickets $12.90 Buy
20 tickets $23.90 Buy
30 tickets $37.90 Buy
50 tickets $59.90 Buy
100 tickets $99.90 Buy
250 tickets $219.90 Buy


same garbage, different screen. Where are those other much better prices ?

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Postby Sir Noel » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:21 am

This is what I see

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I suggest to you that the reason you do not see the option to 'reload' your membership could be because you do not have an active membership?
I say this because you did not list me the line "Plan for x days (recurring)"

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Postby bundeswehr » Thu Jan 02, 2014 4:38 am

sirnoelplum wrote:This is what I see

bundes.jpg


I suggest to you that the reason you do not see the option to 'reload' your membership could be because you do not have an active membership?
I say this because you did not list me the line "Plan for x days (recurring)"


Maybe, odd though how it states that my membership expires on the 25th and I can download the older "free" videos.

"You have 0.2 tickets(?) recharge
Your membership expires 25 Jan 2014
Support
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Maybe one of the creative wizards that stole, us, "converted" my membership can chime in ?

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Thu Jan 02, 2014 7:25 pm

sirnoelplum wrote:I can understand the claim, dp, because you are not quite comparing how these memberships usually run.
I joined julesjordan two months ago and, for one months membership, downloaded the 18 months worth of material since my last membership.
I think these sites have next to no expectation of rolling monthly memberships, hence why brazzers discounts annual membership so heavily (very good value tbh, especially with the fantastic streaming app in 720p to my phone and tablet)


I'm probably horrible at explaining things because I can't understand why we think its so expensive for the content we are getting that's why the other site don't do it. I don't want LP to be like the other sites and since I don't want that I can't expect them to use the same pricing models. I do understand how the other sites work but they make the bulk of their money off of video sales(DVD,BluRay) which LP does not have. Since you brought up Jules Jordan lets compare them to LP for the month of December:

LegalPorno.com - 67 anal themed, including 20 DPs
JulesJordan .com - 25 videos total for the month, 12 anal themed including 3 DPs

*** major difference in JulesJordan you can download scenes from the previous month and earlier for free with LP you have to wait a year but let me say this those scenes from JulesJordan have been usually out on DVD for at least 2 or 3 months before coming to the site. Now their is exception to the rules so no need to say that its not true. ***

So what do we want for LP to reduce its overhead for anal themed, pissing, cream and DP content to throw in plain vanilla vaginal only scenes so we can have the same pricing models as other sites? I'm here for the intense anal themed and DP content only and I assume that why everyone else is here.

OR do we want LP to drop its total output of scenes down to 20-25 a month?

Both options are untenable to me and like what they are doing. They are producing great content with a high rate of output. Now addressing the website lack of features I won't defend them but they are getting better every month. As long as I can download the content I want right now I can live with the lack of features. I guess this is the final say I will have on this matter because their is a new Henessy 3 on 1 scene that I need to download and watch. Keep up the great work LP. I'm very thankful you exist!!!

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Postby Sir Noel » Thu Jan 02, 2014 8:06 pm

dpconnoisseur1 wrote:
So what do we want for LP to reduce its overhead for anal themed, pissing, cream and DP content to throw in plain vanilla vaginal only scenes so we can have the same pricing models as other sites? I'm here for the intense anal themed and DP content only and I assume that why everyone else is here.

OR do we want LP to drop its total output of scenes down to 20-25 a month?

Both options are untenable to me and like what they are doing.



You have misunderstood my reply to you. I too like what LP are doing and have the same fears you do.
My point was that your cost comparison was unreasonable because it failed to take into account that, with many sites, you can take out a solitary months membership every year or two and download the whole damned lot.
i am more than happy that LP is adopting a different model, a premium model if you like, and as long as the quality is commensurate with that model then I have no desire to see LP become just another 21Sextury (but without video images that pixellate and go noisy if anyone fucks too fast - why I never subscribe there any more).

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Postby dpconnoisseur1 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 12:04 am

My apologies because because I did misunderstand what you where saying I look at LP comparison to other sites not like apple to oranges but like apples to Ferrari! I too hope the model holds up and we keep getting this great content. When they were charging $30 for 100 tickets and all scenes were 1 ticket I was spreading the words to my friends and family that the time is now to join because there was no way for.them to stay im business like this!

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Postby shark1 » Fri Jan 03, 2014 1:40 am

Very much agree, the prices per scene are VERY reasonable on this site! 4 tickets is the most I have seen, which considering I get 75 tickets for about $35 when extending my membership, costs me about $2. That is MORE THAN reasonable for the scenes I want on this site that are not available elsewhere. Remember the days DVD's cost about $20-25 for 4 to 5 scenes? I cannot fathom how people can complain about paying $2 for the movies available on this site. Yes, Brazzers, Evil Angel, Elegant Angel, Videosz, etc are cheaper, but they don't have this kind of content consistently, if at all. If you want to pay 1 to 2 tickets per scene, then Sineplex wouldn't be able to be profitable for the scenes they put out and all scenes would be 1 on 1 anal and you would bitch about that. Those who don't like it, go elsewhere, period!

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Postby AngryRippedOffUser » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:39 pm

bundeswehr wrote:
sirnoelplum wrote:This is what I see

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I suggest to you that the reason you do not see the option to 'reload' your membership could be because you do not have an active membership?
I say this because you did not list me the line "Plan for x days (recurring)"


Maybe, odd though how it states that my membership expires on the 25th and I can download the older "free" videos.

"You have 0.2 tickets(?) recharge
Your membership expires 25 Jan 2014
Support
"
Maybe one of the creative wizards that stole, us, "converted" my membership can chime in ?


Click on Members.

Then Set the Font/Zoom Size from your Browser to a smaller Size (in Seamonkey 90% then you can see it. With Firefox execute 2-4 Times the Zoom Out Function) and you can see it.

Default Screen Size.

http://postimg.org/image/fn9q7novx/

And now (see File Attachment) when i set the Zoom/Font Factor to 90%
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Postby Sir Noel » Tue Jan 07, 2014 12:54 pm

I just wanted to mention you had obscured your username in one of the photos but not in the other. Just thought id mention that in case you wanted to keep it out of view.

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sirnoelplum wrote:I just wanted to mention you had obscured your username in one of the photos but not in the other. Just thought id mention that in case you wanted to keep it out of view.


I know hat, but the other Picture was uploaded at a Picture Hoster, and this not, so it's no Problem for me ;)

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby bundeswehr » Thu Jan 09, 2014 2:55 am

AngryRippedOffUser wrote:
bundeswehr wrote:
sirnoelplum wrote:This is what I see

bundes.jpg


I suggest to you that the reason you do not see the option to 'reload' your membership could be because you do not have an active membership?
I say this because you did not list me the line "Plan for x days (recurring)"


Maybe, odd though how it states that my membership expires on the 25th and I can download the older "free" videos.

"You have 0.2 tickets(?) recharge
Your membership expires 25 Jan 2014
Support
"
Maybe one of the creative wizards that stole, us, "converted" my membership can chime in ?


Click on Members.

Then Set the Font/Zoom Size from your Browser to a smaller Size (in Seamonkey 90% then you can see it. With Firefox execute 2-4 Times the Zoom Out Function) and you can see it.

Default Screen Size.

http://postimg.org/image/fn9q7novx/

And now (see File Attachment) when i set the Zoom/Font Factor to 90%


Thanks. I opened a new membership and added some tickets from there. Material is worth it.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby twistedvincent » Tue Jan 14, 2014 3:43 am

Hmmmm....I stop downloading for a couple weeks and whadda' ya know.

I come back and ticket prices are even higher! Well...the majority of the scenes I WANT anyway are 3 tickets each. Aka: New Scenes....scenes that AREN'T the Gapeland, Georgio Grande, and Norestfortheass scenes I already have.

Are you TRYING to get people to go to warez sites for your stuff?? Just tell me and I'll go because it's a fuck of a lot cheaper. And don't tell me you're stuff's not out there because I know better. :eek:
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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby Sir Noel » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:49 am

twistedvincent wrote:Are you TRYING to get people to go to warez sites for your stuff?? Just tell me and I'll go because it's a fuck of a lot cheaper. And don't tell me you're stuff's not out there because I know better. :eek:


Love the 'please reduce your prices or I will steal' approach. I don't know why you didn't just shorten your post to "I am a cunt" and just leave it at that. I suggest if you want to go and download them from warez sites that you just fuck off and do it, don't come the cunt threatening to do so as if you have some kind of moral justification once a scene costs 3 tickets ffs!

To the substance of your grievance. When they outlined the new ticketing model they stated that the best scenes (particularly kreme and pmao scenes) would cost 3 tickets each. There is no change there.
I bought my last membership reload for £34 for 120 tickets. Even at 3 tickets for every scene that still gives me 40 scenes at less than a pound a scene. Is that really SO outrageously expensive that it ethically places you on a par with someone claiming theft through necessity?
Like fuck it does. Cunt.

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Re: "New" Ticket Program

Postby AngryRippedOffUser » Tue Jan 14, 2014 4:24 pm

The Problem are these boring First-Gape (many Stuff that i saw in the past on 21 Sextury) and GG-Exclusive (i'm shure they are not exclusive, many from this Scenes are old Scenes from the Norest network) Anal Scenes. There are sooooooooo standard, i mean really there is nothing inside, that i didnt see on any other Euro Site, just the Girls are good, so i download that Stuff, because my Collector Mentality want it so, i used sooooooo many Tickets for these Standard 0815 Scenes.

The Good Stuff is from Sineplex/Evilutionplex/Sinterracial

Because of this 0815 Scenes, we got so many boring Scenes, and not one Bomb Scene after another, like in the past. (or in den Golden Age of Sineplex)

In the Past any released Scene worth (there's just one Scene that i dont downloaded, because of an Asian Chicks, and Asian Chicks are to 99% ugly for me, the only beautifull Asian Chicks are Japanese Chicks for me) the Action was dirty, the Chicks where great, it was just pure Sineplex.

And by the Way, the new Kreme sucks, bring back the old thick Kreme, like in Ass To Ass scene #1454


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