POLL: What is your preference of anal/pussy penetration ?

[dpconnoisseur1]

This is my attempt to have an unbiased poll compared to the 2 current offering being pushed right now. I truly believe this gives the best chance of showing our preferences as it pertains to anal/pussy fetish for whoever cares about this forum repetitive debate.

Other polls mentioned are below:
Anally biased: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=18627
Pussy biased: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=18629

[ZiziMinuscule]

Enjoy both pussy and anal penetration but prefer scene focus more to anal.

No need to discriminate any hole.

[Chi_Cha]

I prefer anal focus with big gapes but i don't mind pussy for TP since there is most of the time not enough place for TAP, they are already struggling to insert for DAP when Chris Diamond, Nacho Vidal or Kid Jamaica is one of the Dapper

[dap-addict]

This is my attempt to have an unbiased poll compared to the 2 current offering being pushed right now. I truly believe this gives the best chance of showing our preferences as it pertains to anal/pussy fetish for whoever cares about this forum repetitive debate.

Other polls mentioned are below:
Anally biased: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=18627
Pussy biased: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=18629

Biased towards No Holes Barred.
Poll questions are too complicated. Same problem I have in my poll copying my 2015 phrasing.
I think all 3 polls together will give a certain valid picture. Again it will probably show that 0% pussy/100% anal is in a big demand not met by actual production yet.
This fact spices the debate, as well as TVP/DVP fans seem antagonized here. What is missing yet maybe is a DVP poll.

[dap-addict]

Btw, a bit in a different and more specialized turn, but fitting the pussy/anal discussion still is this poll:
viewtopic.php?f=108&t=18628&p=188938&hilit=Poll#p188938

[SimplyStunning]

A woman should be fully enjoyed and enjoy herself so No Holes Barred is my choice.

Poll questions are too complicated.

What do you need maybe I can explain it seems simple to me ?

[Sweep11]

My exact fetish preference is not precisely listed so I'm going to throw my toys out of the pram and get abusive

In all seriousness, every hole is a goal but the ass is the bullseye.
Stick a couple of cocks in one hole, or a cock in each but no more. It just becomes a writhing mess of mainly male flesh in my opinion.
The key for me is attitude, passion and hard balls deep pounding!

[Iddaoeeok]

A woman should be fully enjoyed and enjoy herself so No Holes Barred is my choice.

Poll questions are too complicated.

What do you need maybe I can explain it seems simple to me ?

He's just annoyed these multiple pointless polls aren't going his way

[Rundinetas]

Anal only: includes DAP, TAP and/or QAP

[dap-addict]

Maybe too many polls, but all of them show the same:
Minimum 30% LP users want anal/DAP/TAP only.
And fact is they dont get minimum 30% scenes with that content only garanteed from LP to buy each month.

[Giorgio Grandi]

as I told many time, imho any poll on the forum is basically pointless.
You got about 100 votes in total, if were able to receive 600 votes (at least and only real members) the poll would make sense, with 1000 votes I would seriously consider it, otherwise there is no point on it.

[Iddaoeeok]

30% anal only is actually a lot lower than I thought it would be, judging by the amount of noise generated by the anal only lobby on this forum.

[dap-addict]

as I told many time, imho any poll on the forum is basically pointless.
You got about 100 votes in total, if were able to receive 600 votes (at least and only real members) the poll would make sense, with 1000 votes I would seriously consider it, otherwise there is no point on it.

Somehow its not possible.
Don't understand why but we have only about 100 dedicated posters (and voters) here.
But ist the same with proposing girls, even worse, there. There you get sometimes only 5 thumbs up and you still book them.

[magizi877]

as I told many time, imho any poll on the forum is basically pointless.
You got about 100 votes in total, if were able to receive 600 votes (at least and only real members) the poll would make sense, with 1000 votes I would seriously consider it, otherwise there is no point on it.

XXX, can you tell your webmaster to put the polls on the front page of LP, the [spam] account or in the pornbox?

[dpconnoisseur1]

as I told many time, imho any poll on the forum is basically pointless.
You got about 100 votes in total, if were able to receive 600 votes (at least and only real members) the poll would make sense, with 1000 votes I would seriously consider it, otherwise there is no point on it.

Giorgio, I understand your concerns and feel that you make valid points with your opinion. So what I believe you are saying to fans and XXX is that the forum should be shutdown in your opinion because :

1. Not enough participation to be taken seriously (minimum of 600 opinions needed for validity)
2. Participants cannot be guaranteed to be members so all opinion are pointless (aka worthless)

The reason I conclude with shutting the forum down is if you feel that polls are completely worthless, threads get even less diverse support than your 600 guarantee real member self-imposed minimum you proclaim. Threads are usually the same cast of characters (myself included) advocating for what they personally want to see which fall way under that 100 vote poll total that you think is worthless. I am not trying to speak for you but that is at least how I comprehend what you wrote. Am I wrong ?

[dpconnoisseur1]

So far it seems that poll takers want more variety in porn scenes and not only 0% Pussy.

[dap-addict]

That was clear from the start, dpc.
What must worry 0% pussy fans is that they still dont get even those 30% of guaranteed 0% pussy scenes here.
This is why polls like this one end that way: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=17868&p=187213&hilit=new+director#p187213

[ZiziMinuscule]

guaranteed

May I ask who and where "guaranteed" 30% of 0 pussy LP output ? No offence, just want to know.

[dap-addict]

Thats the problem, Zizi, they write 0% pussy/no pussy in the title but than it turns out there is still pussy only fucking and/or DP in it.
Garanteed it could be by the director, but first users have to be fully able to trust him. To trust he'll cut out pussy/DP if it happened on set on post production.
At this moment we dont even get 30% of un-garanteed 0%pussy/no pussy scenes called so it the title.

[dap-addict]

And here as well: Just 5 votes more and we are at 100!

Vote, please!

[ultimo]

Thats the problem, Zizi, they write 0% pussy/no pussy in the title but than it turns out there is still pussy only fucking and/or DP in it.
Garanteed it could be by the director, but first users have to be fully able to trust him. To trust he'll cut out pussy/DP if it happened on set on post production.
At this moment we dont even get 30% of un-garanteed 0%pussy/no pussy scenes called so it the title.

This is a result of catering to the masses. Your 0% pussy only scene eliminates all of those potential buyers who do not like that. They will always make scenes for the masses.

[SimplyStunning]

At this moment we dont even get 30% of un-garanteed 0%pussy/no pussy scenes called so it the title.

I'm sorry but was trying to stay out of this but I could not any longer. Are you not complaining about petty issues now? You should be opening a thread on branding instead of making a mountain out of an anthill talking about 0% Pussy / 100% Anal essentially not being accurately titled. I don't know where this guarantee of 30% scenes not containing pussy whatsoever is coming from but as you can see in May the last completed full month their are 17 of 62 of these scenes which are 28% of the releases scenes. Compare.that to the No Holes Barred scenes (dp, dap, dpp and tp) and I think you will see a problem there. It is like 5 of 62 scenes (only 2%). Where is this so called guarantee for this type of scene?

[dap-addict]

I'd have to count myself first.
Problem remains that a lot of the 0% pussy/no pussy billed scenes contain pussy only/DP footage.
I concede however that No Holes Barred fans have a hard time here lately, too. GIO shifted more towards 0% pussy because DP lowers sales actually, Luis doest shoot at all or if he does from time to time he doesn't shoot neither NHB nor 0% anymore. So whats left for NHB fans basically is IV and the rarer GIO scenes.
Btw, I dont want any anal porn fetish to dominate LP, all I want is guaranteed content and more awareness on directors side.

[SimplyStunning]

Some of the things you say sound good, but your thread signature betrays your attempt to play politics. First your signature says all you want is two dap scenes daily well there are only 2 new scenes daily except Friday where they add in interracial vision which most forum people consider garbage including myself. Secondly you say stop all vanilla porn which you claim includes anything with pussy penetration including dp in other threads.

[dap-addict]

No.
In reality I want 2 DAPs every day, as you can easily read back in the LP = Paradise thread.
It can be 1 GIO two girls scene with bot girls performing DAP, thats enough.
In general I want more LP scenes released daily, NOT Glam Porn but genuine LP scenes, especially I want Stefano replaced by another director for gonzo.com!
At this very moment we have Luis on and off shooting for gonzo, but most time not shooting for LP at all. And nobody either replacing Stefano and/or Proxy.
Giorgio Grandi pushed up production but not enough to replace them. Also I'd still prefer a mix of different styles BUT in LP quality here.

Secondly you say stop all vanilla porn which you claim includes anything with pussy penetration including dp in other threads.

Vanilla porn again is anything featuring pussy only or DP, but DP only.
I do want DP/DAP no holes barred. I am not a big fan of TP, though.

Simply, I'd recommend you to read me back a bit especially around the Ann O. Fee time, when LP really looked like becoming a vanilla porn site.

[SimplyStunning]

^I'm not going to do research on all your post this is from your signature block and some memory. As for the wish of more releases XXX already said the increases in release scenes does not equate to scene sales. So we already know that is not happening. The whole LegalPorno model is built on a sound money making principles whether we like it or not. The whole GlamPorn venture is about double dipping as now he gets income from the scenes on the DDFNetwork plus the unsuspecting members willing to spend their premium tickets on scenes that are not original and they can get at a fraction of the cost going straight through DDFNetwork membership.
Before I get attacked on do I expect l these GlamPorn scenes for free, my answer is of course no but they should be the cost of free tickets only.

[dap-addict]

Glam Porn might create the LP membership number and/or sales needed to produce and release 3 LP scenes daily and 4 on Fridays.
It may also be the downfall of LP quality as we knew it so far.
Glam Porn shows me we probably should quarrel between 0% pussy and No Holes Barred, but join forces to keep or better even rise the original LP quality!

[SimplyStunning]

I'm not trying to quarrel with you just show that there is support for dp, dpp and tp also. It just seems that the 0% pussy voices are screaming louder and louder with no other viewpoint to counter it. Maybe I'm in the minority but I dont believe so. The 0% pussy fetish denies people that like dp, dpp and tp scenes from the main studios but it is not the same the other way around. I would be happy with all the scenes having equal time spent for dp, dap, dpp and tp. Last week friday and this friday both releases were 0% pussy from Gonzo and Giorgio Grandi.

[dap-addict]

SimplyStunning, all 3 anal/pussy porn polls are a bit biased. Also just by the OPs lobbying quite vocally for their POV here.
But for sure this poll shows that there is a big demand for NHB-scenes (no holes barred). For a long time pornopraphers also know that ATP remains a porn fetish. NHB fits into that.
Now please just dont take only 2 last Fridays, but all LP offerings (without Glam Porn of course) for 2017-18. Than you see that there is far from too little DP at LP. DPP I tried already to explain. There is a.o. a going rate question unfavorable for a production hike, even if demanded more in 2018 than in 2016.

[SimplyStunning]

^I disagree with you that it is obvious this poll is biased. It looks like the fetishes are split evenly between some of everything that is No Holes Barred, to lean towards pussy dominance or lean towards anal dominance. So I don't see the obvious bias.

As for me, like I said in my previous post I prefer dp, dpp, dap and tp to have equal time allotted to them in each scene. This is something that Gonzo does at times and Giorgio Grandi used to do before he went 0% pussy obsessed.

As for GlamPorn, I have stated my opinion on this strongly and don't want to get banned so all I will say is you will never see me buy these scenes when I can get all of them cheaper from a DDFNetwork membership directly. I already own most of the scenes being released on LegalPorno except for the recent stuff being released on DDFNetwork.

[dap-addict]

As I said its dpc's poll and although it looks really unbiased at first it has 3 basically NHB options and only 2 anal / pussy exclusive options. Most important is OP, though. Voters may simply be more attracted to this polling station if they feel the same of similar. Anyway its noting special, nothing to object really and probabely nothing to be really avoided, just need to be clear about it.

About equal footage you have to be aware that LP is still an anal porn site. Also directors neither shoot nor edit with a stop watch. It would make no sense and just create bad porn!

Thus in the most NHB-pussy friendly approach it would lead from pussy-only warm-up to anal or DP, than probably DAP and TP/DPP+anal and than maybe DPP to end.
About DPP I dont wanna repeat myself, but all porn sex acts are produced on a supply-and-demand base, local going rates and individual girls limitations/preferences. The better and longer their standing within the biz the more they may opt for acts and against them - even if officially they offer all of them. Talked recently with Tina Kay about. Just 1 example.

[dap-addict]

Anal only vs. NHB ratio in the 3 biased polls:
dpc poll: 32% - 66%
mine: 42% - 54%
vbt: 34% - 65%

Go figure!

[aras420]

Only one cock in a pussy at a time. Three or four even is fine in an ass though.

[dpconnoisseur1]

Anal only vs. NHB ratio in the 3 biased polls:
dpc poll: 32% - 66%
mine: 42% - 54%
vbt: 34% - 65%

Go figure!

I disagree with you saying this poll is biased not because I created it but because I tried to picture what every forum participant that likes seeing penetration between a male and female would enjoy not what I would. Go figure

Simplystunning almost had the intent correct and I assume others did also except for you, so I will explain. There are a total of 7 choices forcing you to pick only one the one that fits mostly into your viewing pleasure was my intent. Now there are only 10 choices max in any poll so it is hard to put an option for every viewing option you may enjoy. So I decided to take care of anal first which is what I believe LP is a "Anal Focus" site not a "Anal Only" site as others have tried to say it is.

1. Anal only without Multiple Penetration (MP) - this was a strong group when I first got here 2013 often calling people gay that enjoyed any MP interaction
2. Anal only with MP - seems to be loudest group currently in the forum, talking about purity of anal only content
3. No Holes Barred(NHB) with Anal focus - where I thought most forum participants would fall, anal is their focus but they want to see all a models holes fucked
4. NHB - obviously only if a model could handle it to see all her holes fucked equally. Gonzo does it as did earlier Giorgio LP scenes simply switching from DP, DA and hopefully now DV per position. Also including TP, TAP and TVP when possible by model and director.
5. NHB with Pussy focus - forum participants that enjoy all fucked but don't enjoy this anal focus in every scene
6. Pussy only with MP - the last 2 are polar opposites to the first two options and are added because of small rumblings I have read on threads lately.
7. Pussy only without MP - beside what I said above in option 6, I thought this would catch the lesbian and reverse orgy fans that have lost favor on LP which were a strong group in 2013

Now the 7 options was designed to make two conclusions:

1. what is the focus of LP according to forum participants ? 54% anal focus site, not anal only or even anal dominant
2. what fetish seems to have strong forum support ? 39% equal amount of all MP fetish in a scene, now I assume nobody is asking for a stopwatch in a scene but I think a normal person can tell the difference between a 99% ration of one fetish to 1% of another in the same scene even 70:30 should be easy to tell.

My conclusion so far dictated by the poll numbers are above in red. So in reality I grouped 1-3 as anal focus, 5-7 as pussy focus and 4 NHB just wanting to see a model fully and intensely fucked I feel if I would be accused of bias is in refusing to add any lesbian, tranny, bi or gay options in the poll as I have seen threads with these interest also but I will accept having an unseen blind spot by me since it is my poll. I still don't see it though.

[gapefan]

as I told many time, imho any poll on the forum is basically pointless.
You got about 100 votes in total, if were able to receive 600 votes (at least and only real members) the poll would make sense, with 1000 votes I would seriously consider it, otherwise there is no point on it.

[t-unit]

I think anal should be featured but don't forget the pussy. There are some hygenic conserns of ass to pussy penetration without movie cuts. I think girl safety is important to.

[dpconnoisseur1]

^Wow, you pulled your head out of Girogio ass long enough to type something

Well my response to you is the same as to Giorgio:

as I told many time, imho any poll on the forum is basically pointless.
You got about 100 votes in total, if were able to receive 600 votes (at least and only real members) the poll would make sense, with 1000 votes I would seriously consider it, otherwise there is no point on it.

Giorgio, I understand your concerns and feel that you make valid points with your opinion. So what I believe you are saying to fans and XXX is that the forum should be shutdown in your opinion because :

1. Not enough participation to be taken seriously (minimum of 600 opinions needed for validity)
2. Participants cannot be guaranteed to be members so all opinion are pointless (aka worthless)

The reason I conclude with shutting the forum down is if you feel that polls are completely worthless, threads get even less diverse support than your 600 guarantee real member self-imposed minimum you proclaim. Threads are usually the same cast of characters (myself included) advocating for what they personally want to see which fall way under that 100 vote poll total that you think is worthless. I am not trying to speak for you but that is at least how I comprehend what you wrote. Am I wrong ?

[dpconnoisseur1]

^Above post was for GapeFan

[gapefan]

^Wow, you pulled your head out of Girogio ass long enough to type something

Talk too much is the best way to say bullshit

[dap-addict]

Anal only vs. NHB ratio in the 3 biased polls:
dpc poll: 32% - 66%
mine: 42% - 54%
vbt: 34% - 65%

Go figure!

I disagree with you saying this poll is biased not because I created it but because I tried to picture what every forum participant that likes seeing penetration between a male and female would enjoy not what I would. Go figure

Dpc, maybe yours is the least biased, but as I pointed out the OP asking to vote has to be counted into a possible bias as well. See my poll as an example. I obviously attracted more 100% anal fans. Its normal. Thus my summarize: around 36% anal only vs. 62% NHB, i.e. around one third vs. two thirds. Maybe NHB voters need to be singled out a bit more, as most tend towards anal focus still, luckily.

Now generally I think NHB get that share, anal only gets catered for by LP 100% anal guaranteed approach below polls. And this is one of the reason that group is so vocal.