PornBox Best Pornstar Tournament

[dodonet1994]

1) Lydia Black just announced she will retire in 1mt - shall we leave her in nevertheless?
2) Alisia is also fine, but best would be both.
3) Ria Sunn is on pregnancy break till Autumn and not sure whether she comes back, but I would rather keep her in Tournament, what you think?
Your Czech list is the most shaky, since Kristy, Brittany and Ria are of doubtful DAP-status, at the same time 3-4 are close to GOAT.
I'd still add the winner of Czech pre-tournament - or replace 1 of those 4 by her.
4) Looks like Marta Villalobos may just performed a new DAP for AH/GIO, have to check that. She's pretty weak a performer, though. I'm not sure here and would sacrifice her to add 1 more Russian girl, but it depends on the pre-Tournament support. Let's decide once we have these results.

6) I can start the first pre-tournaments today or tomorrow, yes!
For the Russians I will take Stacy Bloom and Nicole Black as set. The other about 30 candidates can be voted for. The best 3 will make it for sure. The rest we will decide last minute depending on Marta Villalobos, ok?

1) Yes we can keep Lydia or we can wait for the russian and czech pre-tournaments at least.
2) Fine we can add them both if we still got a free space. (TBH I only believe that Julia north is the only true contender from Ukraine)
3) Yes we can keep Ria, she is solid and consistent. As for the rest, they are legends especially Brittany she's offered too many amazing scenes to be excluded and at the same time No other czech deserves to be included.
4) If you have other spanish suggestions let me know, as far as i'm concerned those 3 are the best. Nuria maybe the best in Europe for me, Emejota does pretty rough DAPs and consistent and still young and finally Marta is very sexy, does DAPs and has one of the most perfect curve bodies I've ever scene and yes please confirm if she's shoot new scenes I've been missing her.
5) Great let's start the pre-tournament and we can decide later the number of russians to be included

[dap-addict]

Personally for Spain I'd replace Dulce Mylene for Marta Villalobos. Dulce is a better performer.

I'd also do a Czech pre-Tournament with these 10 voting options:
While I am still not sure anyone should replace the 4 you mentioned.
But let's just check how popular they are! Maybe we can find a 5th place for the main Tournament.

Czech to add:
Nela Decker: consistant since 2021
Maddy Black: DAPbreakin' 2022, no DAP 2024, but comeback 2025
Silvia Dellai: consistant since 2016
Vinna Reed: consistant since 2015
Alexa Throat: started in 2024
Joana Intense: started in 2024
Salina Shein: consistant 2023/4
Isis Diamond: consistant MILF 2023/4
Alia Star: started in 2023, DAPbreakin' 2024

Cindy Shine: consistant on low DAP level @ AGO only 2023/4

[dap-addict]

Just started the Czech pre-Tournament:
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=92861

Russian girls - in 3 voting groups - will fellow today evening or tomorrow.

[dodonet1994]

Personally for Spain I'd replace Dulce Mylene for Marta Villalobos. Dulce is a better performer.

Let me disagree with you, I think Marta is one of the hottest women in Europe. I can watch a new scene of her everyday and won't complain, top 3 best body type in my entire list

[dodonet1994]

^ I know you talk about performances but certain exceptions should be taken into consideration and Marta (Brittany, Nuria, Georgia) for me is an exception

[dap-addict]

dodonet, that Tournament was your initiative. And I accept your choice to weight heavier than mine. We both also favor different body types with our porn girls, and that's okay. I'll just lobby for a mix to cater also for other users. But here with Spain I shall sure not insist on Dulce over Marta, dont worry. Same with the three others, although for me none of them is crucial. For me crucial are only Stacy Bloom, Giada Sgh, Nicole Love and Anna de Ville.

[dodonet1994]

dodonet, that Tournament was your initiative. And I accept your choice to weight heavier than mine. We both also favor different body types with our porn girls, and that's okay. I'll just lobby for a mix to cater also for other users. But here with Spain I shall sure not insist on Dulce over Marta, dont worry. Same with the three others, although for me none of them is crucial. For me crucial are only Stacy Bloom, Giada Sgh, Nicole Love and Anna de Ville.

Your input is also very important and your crucial ones are definitely added in the final list. You seem to appreciate more the old guard and I can't argue with you they are all GODDESSES. Maybe I am more biased to the new talents and beautiful women (except for Brittany who is the Pornbox GOAT for me) who offers high quality squirting scenes

[dap-addict]

Maybe I am more biased to the new talents and beautiful women (except for Brittany who is the Pornbox GOAT for me) who offers high quality squirting scenes

Well except Emejota, Marta Villalobos, Virgin Butterfly and Areta Ridera there are no new talents in your list.

I think we have different girls frame beauty ideals: For me ideal is Emilie Bellexx.
Just that I am not sure about Emilies consistency.

I'd also add Nicole Black to my must list.
Btw, what do we do if during Tournament it shows a girl listed has actually retired? Do we let her run or treat her as if she has given forfeit?

[dodonet1994]

Well except Emejota, Marta Villalobos, Virgin Butterfly and Areta Ridera there are no new talents in your list.

I think we have different girls frame beauty ideals: For me ideal is Emilie Bellexx.
Just that I am not sure about Emilies consistency.

I'd also add Nicole Black to my must list.
Btw, what do we do if during Tournament it shows a girl listed has actually retired? Do we let her run or treat her as if she has given forfeit?

Georgia and Nuria are relatively new. I like Voluptuous women with curvy asses and squirters, you seem to like the slim body type and fair enough everyone has his own taste.

If someone retired now I suggest to keep her.

BTW I might be busy the upcoming few weeks so you can lead the tournament and do whatever you see right.

[dap-addict]

My type of girl isn't very common anymore in Europorn since Russian girls dropped out basically.
This said ofc I instantly bought Nuria as secretary today!

BTW I might be busy the upcoming few weeks so you can lead the tournament and do whatever you see right.

Let's better wait with the main Tournament until you are back - in May?
I'm much better at those 10 option polls thing, not your scheme.

[dodonet1994]

My type of girl isn't very common anymore in Europorn since Russian girls dropped out basically.
This said ofc I instantly bought Nuria as secretary today!

BTW I might be busy the upcoming few weeks so you can lead the tournament and do whatever you see right.

Let's better wait with the main Tournament until you are back - in May?
I'm much better at those 10 option polls thing, not your scheme.

Ok let us discuss the main tournament after finishing all the pre-tournaments. Man, Nuria proves day after day that she's the best right now and miles away from any other woman

[dap-addict]

Russia : stacy bloom - nicole black - zlata shine - Ice Di - Sasha Paige - Hot Pearl - Funky Town - Kitty Kate - Lady Buxxx

Sasha Page - isnt consistant, she didnt perform a single DAP in 2024.
Hot Pearl - not consistant either, her 2024 DAPs are just re-releases of 2023 work
Kitty Kate - did too little DAP
Lady Buxxx - not consistent last 2y because she started her career in 2024 only

Just learned that Funky Town has retired after that Russian authority porn clampdown. She's fearing for her family, even if she'd shoot in Prague!

[xxxVIPERxxx]

I am sorry to hear of Funky Town's retirement.
You mention that Lady Buxxx is not consistent with her releases...however, is it my imagination or has she not released quite a substantial number of EKS scenes in the past year???

[dodonet1994]

@dap-addict
I agree with you, you can do another poll for all top 3 of each poll who didn't qualify.
I know I've been around lately but I might be inconsistent again so you can proceed with the format you like and I can check later.
TbH I've only been following Georgia (as you know she's my favorite) lately and I'm not focusing on the others due to the lack of time.

[dodonet1994]

@dap-addict where did we stop cuz it's been a long time? and what do you suggest to do? although I am quite active these days but I'll be busy again soon and won't be able to follow up regularly this tournament

[dap-addict]

I've 5-8 Russian girls for tournament based on poll results.
I'll list them here this afternoon and based on them you can start the tournament in your original idea.

[dap-addict]

dodonet, poll results were positive for these girls set for sure:
Stacy Bloom
Nicole Black
Monika Wild
Monika Fox
Sofa Weber
Sasha Paige (is she really active still?)
Kitty Li
Zlata Shine


As additional options IF we needed to re-plentish Tournament options these girls got a good median vote:
Akina Asmus
Ellen Million (still active?)
Eva Tender
Holy Wood
Ice Di
Jana White
Kitty Doll
Princess Lili
Virgin Butterfly


Links:
Russia1: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=92981&p=1377840&hilit=Poll+Russian#p1377840
Russia2: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=92983&p=1377839&hilit=Poll+Russian#p1377839
Russia3: viewtopic.php?f=96&t=92984&p=1379157&hilit=Poll+Russian#p1379157

[dodonet1994]

@dap-addict so this is the final list, is it ok?
Spain : nuria millan - emejota - marta villalobos
France : vittoria devine - georgia koneva - Leila Botwin
Italy : lady ana - giada suicide - lena coxx - Nemesi
England : emily belle - Baby kitten
Germany : jolee love
Swiss : Adeline Lafouine
Belgium : alice maze
Latvia : Mina
Czech : brittany bardot - kristy black - nicole love - Ria Sunn
Ukraine : julia north
Belarus : julia maze
Bulgaria : Areta Ridera - Vicky Sol
Russia : Kitty Li - Princess Lili - Stacy Bloom - Nicole Black - Monika Fox - Monika Wild - Zlata Shine - sofa Weber

there are still some russian, czech and ukrainian options if you want to replace any of those in the list

[dap-addict]

32 girls thats fine for Tournament.
I'd replace Princess Lili and Julia North, but it's purely individually based while poll data speak another language. So, let's go for that list above, yes!

[dodonet1994]

32 girls thats fine for Tournament.
I'd replace Princess Lili and Julia North, but it's purely individually based while poll data speak another language. So, let's go for that list above, yes!

Just out of curiosity who would you put instead? Since the 2 are solid performers and i think fan favourites

[dodonet1994]

@dap-addict btw why aren't each model's socials attached to their scenes page? It took us sometime to be able to find a model X genuine account for example

[dap-addict]

Just out of curiosity who would you put instead? Since the 2 are solid performers and i think fan favourites

I respect fans, therefore I dont put anybody instead.
But just eristically thinking of myself I'd put Lina Arien (Ukraine) and Kitty Doll (Russia).

[dodonet1994]

These are the matches, was generated randomly via chatgpt is it ok do we proceed?

1 nuria millan Spain vs Nicole Black Russia
2 Baby kitten England vs lena coxx Italy
3 Kristy Black Czech vs Stacy Bloom Russia
4 giada suicide Italy vs alice maze Belgium
5 Monika Fox Russia vs georgia koneva France
6 jolee love Germany vs Areta Ridera Bulgaria
7 Ria Sunn Czech vs Princess Lili Russia
8 Julia North Ukraine vs lady ana Italy
9 Zlata Shine Russia vs marta villalobos Spain
10 Monika Wild Russia vs Vicky Sol Bulgaria
11 emily belle England vs Leila Botwin France
12 Adeline Lafouine Swiss vs brittany bardot Czech
13 sofa Weber Russia vs julia maze Belarus
14 Mina Latvia vs Nemesi Italy
15 Kitty Li Russia vs emejota Spain
16 nicole love Czech vs vittoria devine France

[dap-addict]

...is it ok do we proceed?

We can, but I would have paired them as fellows instead.
I add my pairing because first poll results seem to show me that not all voters understand they can give their vote only to one option per pairing number. Therefore I think we actually have to create 16 different votes, which is more fussy ofc.

I would leave these AI generated pairings:
7 Ria Sunn Czech vs Princess Lili Russia
9 Zlata Shine Russia vs marta villalobos Spain
10 Monika Wild Russia vs Vicky Sol Bulgaria
13 sofa Weber Russia vs julia maze Belarus
14 Mina Latvia vs Nemesi Italy

...but pair the fellowing like this:
nuria millan Spain vs Monika Fox Russia
Nicole Black Russia vs lady ana Italy
Baby kitten England vs Areta Ridera Bulgaria
lena coxx Italy vs alice maze Belgium
Kristy Black Czech vs Julia North Ukraine
Stacy Bloom Russia vs georgia koneva France
giada suicide Italy vs Adeline Lafouine Swiss
Leila Botwin France vs emily belle England
jolee love Germany vs vittoria devine France
Kitty Li Russia vs brittany bardot Czech
nicole love Czech vs emejota Spain

...and than open 16 votes for each pairing, we can split tasks by two, you open 8 pairings and I open 8 pairings to share the work if you want - and ignore the already opened votes over 4 pairings each by editing and limiting the vote run until today for instance.
What you think of this option, dodonet?

IF you want to proceed as you started it's okay by me as well, but I am really afraid vote results will be crooked as voters seem not to understand the concept.

[dodonet1994]

As for the AI matchup i think it's fair and we shouldn't do it ourself so everyone have equal chances and the best would win eventually.
I agree we can split the work i can take groups 1 and 2 but even though voters can still vote for some matchups and ignore the other so the total for each matchup won't be the same anyways. What do you think?

[dap-addict]

As for the AI matchup i think it's fair and we shouldn't do it ourself so everyone have equal chances and the best would win eventually.

+ 1
As already indicated I partially agree.
AI matchup is okay by me!

I agree we can split the work i can take groups 1 and 2 but even though voters can still vote for some matchups and ignore the other so the total for each matchup won't be the same anyways. What do you think?

Yes, not everybody will vote for all matchups, but that is okay.
But at the same time I think you have seen that voters didnt understand the Tournament. It's aligned with my pretty big poll-making experience: If you mix too many aspects in same poll question voters tend to get lost.

[dap-addict]

So shall we do it like this:
You this weekend open 8 polls for AI matched-up Tournament pairings 1 to 8.
Methis weekend I open 8 polls for AI matched-up Tournament pairings 9 to 16.
Okay?

[dodonet1994]

So shall we do it like this:
You this weekend open 8 polls for AI matched-up Tournament pairings 1 to 8.
Methis weekend I open 8 polls for AI matched-up Tournament pairings 9 to 16.
Okay?

Okay.
make the poll open for 5 days?

[dap-addict]

I'd rather take 10 days because some posters visit here only every weekend.

[dap-addict]

Hey, very fast, great, dodonet!
I will post my bunch (Tournament 9-16) rather on Sunday in order not to over-load the General forum with polls.

[dodonet1994]

Currently votes are going towards the nostalgia and the old guard, hmmm interesting

[Jimbo8012395]

4) Looks like Marta Villalobos may just performed a new DAP for AH/GIO, have to check that. She's pretty weak a performer, though. I'm not sure here and would sacrifice her to add 1 more Russian girl, but it depends on the pre-Tournament support. Let's decide once we have these results.

I don't get how you can think Marta Villalobos is a weak performer. She takes a hard throatfucking, willingly pukes, takes whipped cream in her ass, drinks piss, does hard DP & DAP, likes to be generally manhandled and is fine swallowing lots of cum. She's a billion times the porn performer than Sofa Weber is, who, if we're being brutally honest, shouldn't be anywhere near a hardcore porn set.

[dap-addict]

I agree we can split the work i can take groups 1 and 2 but even though voters can still vote for some matchups and ignore the other so the total for each matchup won't be the same anyways. What do you think?

Yes, not everybody will vote for all matchups, but that is okay.
But at the same time I think you have seen that voters didnt understand the Tournament. It's aligned with my pretty big poll-making experience: If you mix too many aspects in same poll question voters tend to get lost.

Now we have 13 to 17 votes for each matchup, thats pretty fine!
I'll post Tournaments 09-16 in a few minutes.

[dap-addict]

...according to these AI matchups:

These are the matches, was generated randomly via chatgpt is it ok do we proceed?

1 nuria millan Spain vs Nicole Black Russia
2 Baby kitten England vs lena coxx Italy
3 Kristy Black Czech vs Stacy Bloom Russia
4 giada suicide Italy vs alice maze Belgium
5 Monika Fox Russia vs georgia koneva France
6 jolee love Germany vs Areta Ridera Bulgaria
7 Ria Sunn Czech vs Princess Lili Russia
8 Julia North Ukraine vs lady ana Italy
9 Zlata Shine Russia vs marta villalobos Spain
10 Monika Wild Russia vs Vicky Sol Bulgaria
11 emily belle England vs Leila Botwin France
12 Adeline Lafouine Swiss vs brittany bardot Czech
13 sofa Weber Russia vs julia maze Belarus
14 Mina Latvia vs Nemesi Italy
15 Kitty Li Russia vs emejota Spain
16 nicole love Czech vs vittoria devine France

Btw, so far only 1 of my favorites didnt make it on next level.
But with 2nd tournament part I guess my fave girls will have less luck.

[dodonet1994]

@dap-addict how can i communicate with you privately?

[dap-addict]

Wite me a mail to dap-a@seznam.cz

[dap-addict]

dodonet, btw, we probabely could increase votes IF we'd edit our respective 1st OP posts and add the girls competing against each other in title.
Shall we do that?

I add one for us to check, ok?
viewtopic.php?f=96&t=94119&p=1396893#p1396893
Problem to fit names we have to edit subject title and thus destroy it. This makes me think it was maybe a bad idea even.

What you think?