Porn Fan scouting successes (and failures)

[dap-addict]

That's a shame. Giorgio's always come across as a decent guy tbf.

Problem sure is if a girl underperforms financially and isnt ideally guidable as those tattoo decisions had shown. At the same time that was in middle or pandemia with lots of additional burocracy and really lots happening at GIO studio. In more quiet times it all would have worked out better I am convinced. At the end a very talented girl was lost, a real sub with real big ambitions and an incredible work ethos.
Last but not least let me mention that without the help of Spanish actor Robin Reid I wouldnt have managed that all. He was a big back to lean on in hours if crisis like the tattoos a.o.

[Jimbo8012395]

As for your last idea: DVDs are dead, at least I think so. Although me, too, I keep about 500 stored away in dusty old boxes somewhere in an attic.

Agreed. Wrong expression, Physical DVD's have been dead for 20 ish years. What I meant to say was a website with a cross section of pretty girls all performing DP's, DAP's and gangbangs. Wouldn't matter if it was profitable or not. Could just film/produce what I wanted.

Slim girls. Curvy girls. Girls who are probably a couple of stone overweight, but are still pleasantly plump.

A wide variety of ages from early 20's to 40's.

Girls who wanted to be there and wanted to perform. The exact opposite of NRX girls.

[dap-addict]

Btw, this is the first foto Ava Harris sent me a few months before travelling to Prague from Poland by train for that 1on1 intro, that wet DP and finally her DAPbreakin:

pre-Ava Harris, Autumn 2020.

What we see is a virgin white rareity in a pond of already over-inked Eurobabes, a true jevel, although ofc titties are really very small. But all in all a dream rookie package in my book!

[dap-addict]

What I meant to say was a website with a cross section of pretty girls all performing DP's, DAP's and gangbangs. Wouldn't matter if it was profitable or not. Could just film/produce what I wanted.

That happens only in paradise, lest you have really big funds of your own.
Nowadays porn is marketing and hard sales reality, actually much harder than in Spring 2021 with Ava Harris. Profitablity is all and compassionate idealists hunting down DAPbreakins - or any other fetish like the one user who wrote in about talking to cam girls -, spending hours motivateing girls to try DAP will soon be a virtue or curse of past.

[Jimbo8012395]

Btw, this is the first foto Ava Harris sent me a few months before travelling to Prague from Poland by train for that 1on1 intro, that wet DP and finally her DAPbreakin:

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What we see is a virgin white rareity in a pond of already over-inked Eurobabes, a true jevel, although ofc titties are really very small. But all in all a dream rookie package in my book!

Ava should have stayed exactly as she was. I don't even think she really needed the dental work tbh. Not the prettiest girl in the world, but still attractive and definitely had something about her.

But for COVID and other reasons, we could have seen multiple Ava DAP scenes. Alas, it wasn't meant to be. Real shame.

You did great work getting her over to Prague by the way. The wet DP scene was very good.

[dap-addict]

a virgin white rareity...

Let me add this from Ava's 2nd or 3rd assfuck ever in her entire life:

Dylan smittens Ava Harris in for porn @ GL403.

Big mighty Dylan goes balls deep into a virgin girl, she wimpers and gasps, but takes him all the way up to his balls. Its too intimate to share her description of how she felt in that very moment, but it was HUGE for Ava- and after her praise of Dylan's perceived anal love-makeing with her too long longing virgin beauty I knew for 100% she'll perform that DAPbreakin'.
At the same time you see an un-inked double virgin body, a history yet to be written into her skin, flesh and mind, a passion to change just starting to blossom. As much as I was mad about those silly tattooes I also understood why she wanted them.

[dap-addict]

Ava should have stayed exactly as she was.

That was my stance also, but Ava and GIO didnt agree. In such a case I always defend position of the girl, even I didnt agree at all with Avas silicon plans for instance. Unfortunately changes soon run out of hand.

As for DAP she had huge potential, but circumstances didnt help her. After GIO lost interest due to under-performance financially I had contact with many other Prague studios and really saw a level of professionality or lack of I'd better never have seen! Soon lots of these studios run into financial troubles, than Ava retired for persnal reasons, than she came back and again her BF made her retire and... in the end only AGO re-booked Ava, in 2023 I think. Are you familiar with this scene, Jimbo?

[Jimbo8012395]

Ava should have stayed exactly as she was.

That was my stance also, but Ava and GIO didnt agree. In such a case I always defend position of the girl, even I didnt agree at all with Avas silicon plans for instance. Unfortunately changes soon run out of hand.

As for DAP she had huge potential, but circumstances didnt help her. After GIO lost interest due to under-performance financially I had contact with many other Prague studios and really saw a level of professionality or lack of I'd better never have seen! Soon lots of these studios run into financial troubles, than Ava retired for persnal reasons, than she came back and again her BF made her retire and... in the end only AGO re-booked Ava, in 2023 I think. Are you familiar with this scene, Jimbo?

If only they'd both listened to you. Her teeth weren't bad, and she suited being flat chested. Not everyone can or should have big tits. Boob jobs generally look terrible on slim girls.

I'd watched the AGO trailer and that was enough for me. I've an aversion to all thinks AGO. I just think he's a bad porn director. He's basically copied Giorgio, but has none of his talent.

[SuperKeksimus]

SuperKeksimus, important is also to link it to a trusted crowd-funding provider I think, because while I trust my own projects and can put there hundreds of $ easily, me and a lot other fans will think twice if somebody we dont know personally asks us the same. I hope its possible under disguise with a mainstream provider, just collecting funds for a seemingly mainstream film.
Have you any ideas about these money technicalities yet?

Sure it's important, and of course it will be something trusted (will try choose the best option from all financial providers who works with adult industry).
Also, at least in the beginning, it will be in a form of non-refundable donations to actresses (+ commissions to financial provider will be paid by supporters), website itself will be non profitable, just because I dont want to do a paperworks and make it complex in the beginning. If the idea will works and website will connect supporters and actresses I will develop it more, will add some more functions.

[SuperKeksimus]

Anyway if you have some ideas about the platform itself, levels or special fund (there is on a top right corner) write it, I want to make a real platform which will change the industry and opinion of community is valuable.

My advice would be to get the options as little as possible influenced by your own fetishes and make options as easy as possible. A very limited number of scripts or fetishes will make it easier to realize, I think.
This said me, I would not go below DAP, so you may just need that virgin thing or that bukkake option. You start that homepage, so your fetishes count most in your project.

Anyway, less is more I think.
I wish you luck!
Cool idea!

Thanks, man!
My aim - to make it game-like, with levels etc. As I understand from your posts - it's hard to convince girl to do DAP even, but the system will work and actress will receive financial support even if she have 2 lvl. The sum is depends clearly on number of girls, who will claim to reward and number of supporters. I was trying to make 10 levels for each "general" fetish, such as "No pussy", "Fisting Mastery Path", "Gokkun", "Anal Creampie", "Facial Hell Path"(in attachments) etc. You can suggest some new "fetish thread" for sure.

[SuperKeksimus]

Here is "Facial Hell Path"

[dap-addict]

Thanks, man!
My aim - to make it game-like, with levels etc. As I understand from your posts - it's hard to convince girl to do DAP even, but the system will work and actress will receive financial support even if she have 2 lvl.

I'm not sure it isnt too complicated to be honest.
Because later with all the players interested to finance such a scene you still have to agree on the girls style, clothed vs. naked etc.
It all looks so complicated if we have lets say 10 fetishes. Also it doesnt allow to combine fetishes in a scene, or does it? I'm afraid such a game approach could attract lots of fans who like to fantasize and play, but are not committed to porn shootings as such. But maybe I am just missing something.

As for DAP, its not that difficult to convince a girl to it nowadays, but its still an expensive act to finance and most difficult is to make it work really.
Like with Ava Harris it took really several hours of shootings and several breaks to get about 12min of DAP in da box, meaning all her studs had to work over-time. Thats a real challange! With Jenna Lovely 10y earlier and Carla Cox I got not even a tenth of that time, meaning DAP isnt performed sufficiently really. But those were porn lightyears from today.

[xxxVIPERxxx]

In my life, I have given what I think is the ultimate compliment to some super hot, super sexy girls where I told them they should be working in porn.

The compliment did not go down well....

I think the porn scouts and porn talent headhunters are very brave/courageous.

[Jimbo8012395]

In my life, I have given what I think is the ultimate compliment to some super hot, super sexy girls where I told them they should be working in porn.

The compliment did not go down well....

I think the porn scouts and porn talent headhunters are very brave/courageous.

It's pretty obvious why it didn't. 99.9% of women aren't cut out for a career in porn. A girl needs to be most, if not all, of the below:

1) An exhibitionist.
2) Have a very high libido/borderline sex addiction.
3) Be comfortable with men objectifying them.
4) Into rough sex.
5) Has high body confidence.
6) Fully aware of how this stays on the internet forever and they're fine with it.

Most porn talent scouts will concentrate on girls in and around the sex industry.

[dap-addict]

From experience I can only agree with 1, 3, 4 and 6 . with 1 and 6 being rather optional.

I'd also not say that most scouts do their job in other sex industry pool, lest you count cam girls onto that pool.

Finally with the last discussed Aba Harries I was really surprised how generally little sexual xperince she had at just turned age 21. And its actually not seldom scouts propose rookies who had below 10 sex partners prior to their first porn scene!

I think that whole supersex and nymphomany thing is an urban legend of porn. There is so many girls treating porn really just as a job they do to earn their money. The main thing they are aware of is however the power of their feminine body!
But here again many civilian girls never considering porn play with it!

[dap-addict]

supersex and nymphomany thing is an urban legend of porn.

To explain let me put a pretty random Ava Harris self-promo pic from that time. I've seen dotzens such pics also from other girls and professional porn scouts must have seem thousands of them.

Ava Harris post-GIO start self promo pic - naked.

Now this girl wants to please a boys eye ofc, but is she a vamp? A hyper-sexually active girl? Is she over body conscious? - And than how do you have to style this body of hers to sell it in porn studios together with 3 GIO studio references?

And just to b clear: Its not about scouts fantasy of what to do with such a girl, scouts may be completely over-saturated, but finding the right pitch to get a the girl a next DAP fee as high as possible. Or whatever fee, just to really sell her to next porn studios!

[dap-addict]

Add: I skip the kind of pics studios ask for before considering any booking, because these have never such warm colors and are just a bare flesh market, a catalogue of hips, tits, tattoos and sadly often self mutilation scars.

[dap-addict]

Since I'm on de-mystifcication track I'll put one of the meat show fotos for interested studios. There would be also side and back and thats the core they chose from based on girls sex act offers. 2nd phase of talks is days of shootings, accommodation and only than fee agreement.

Meat sample foto shows Ava was special!

[dap-addict]

Meanwhile its actually other way round with my sort of scouting: Since about 7y girls - of ex-es pretending to be girls in some sorry cases - contact me for booking help. Fastest check of sincerety in this case are those as actual as possible meat market fotos (front - side - back). 90% of pretendents fail to provide them and I know: It was a scam again!

[dap-addict]

Lol, got a French MILF recently asking for support but it took her 10 weeks to get presentable front-side-back selfies together. She didnt help neither of us much! And I still dont see her at any LP studios, although her amateur works look way hot, with lots of passion at least.

Its basically easy and can be done without help from outside within 10min if light is good, but as I said there is lots of scam. Most sorry I'm about the angry ex's because its so low to do that to your former love!
I'll just ignore those ofc, but sad and sorry feeling nevertheless.

[dap-addict]

Being on nostalgia mode again let me go back to around 2012/13 after those way failed two DAPbreakin's for Carla Cox and Jenna Lovely: Around that time I finally found a porn team competent enough to actually shoot the DAPbreakin's I was prepared to finance or co-finance. It was a team of really capable actors who also directed their videos themselves and who were therefore much closer to the girls and able to get 5min or more of DAP with them not just a few secs.

[dap-addict]

Maybe also time to point on 2 former civilian forum members who actually crossed the line and are or were successful within this biz, where they promote DAP much more effective than I do or ever did:
1) Evil_Pinapple started as a porn fan in forum, hooked up with SOS and being a hobby videographer at some point joined his Piter camera team. He than went with SOS to Mexico. And after SOS organisational failure and end became a front-runner director himself - a bit like Andrew X stepping out of GIO shadow only now. However he started with first porn blow due to first OF wave and wasnt as successful as he planned. He sht about a Dotzen films, lots of footsie stuff, one of his personal fetishes, but also some DAP scenes, maybe summing up to 1/3 of his own production.
https://pornbox.com/application/studio/118

2) Oscar Batty v/o Mambo BBC started here in forum as a civilian poster, he became a porn actor later and worked for years in Prague mainly for Gonzo, but also N&F and GIO, than in 2021 he emigrated to Sao Paulo and founded his own Mambo Perv. studio. He shot about 30 DAP breakin's meanwhile - and sure over 100 DAP scenes.
https://pornbox.com/application/studio/197